Great story Amy. I do agree that if this issue happens again that mercy will be
hard to find. The whole situation puts a damper on the state football playoffs,
which to me, is the best time of the year.
If Herriman and Logan want to win it all, you have to play the best of teams at
some time or another. Why not win that game first and get it out of the way?
Then you can cruise to to the championship. I'm not buying all their
complaining. You have to win the big game at some point in the playoffs.
Re: willieSo if BYU or Utah gets into the NCAA tourney next March,
then you're all for them throwing out the challenge of facing Kentucky
first? No sense, messing around with seedings. If you want to be the best you
have to beat the best right. No coach in his/her right mind would see it this
way unless they are given a raw deal like Herriman this week and then in the
spirit of doing all he/she could do to win the game, the coach will result to
your way of thinking. This was an awful decision made by the UHSAA!! But I do
bet that Herriman has more fans this weekend than any other week of the season.
I would love to see them rise to the occasion.
If they really wanted to punish the teams involved and not mess things up why
didn't they simply say ok East you are seeded 1st but can NOT have any home
games for playoff games. Whoever you play it will be on the road. Same to you
Timpview.Now wouldn't that keep the integrity of the playoff
structure AND has far fewer unintended consequences?Now, I DO want
to fire the Principals at both High schools though. It was their JOB, and they
screwed it up. I even saw East's guy say he would resign if the kids got to
play. That is an honorable man, and I'd take him up on his offer. Go ahead
and appoint an interim administrator and then if they want to apply for their
jobs (back) next year they can.
The seeding system noted and recommended by the Riverton Volleyball coach is one
way to avoid something like this happening and is also something done in many
states. This has been proposed to the UHSAA many times but is something that
they simply will not entertain The way regions are matched up has also been
dramatically affected in 3A basketball as for the 2nd year in a row region 9 and
region 10 will be matched up in the first round. Apparently this year the 3A
competition committee decided to shuffle the deck in 3A for state tournament
pairings and essentially drew straws in each particular sport to determine which
region plays who. In doing so these two regions were once again matched up in
the first round. This was also the only sport in which this happened. This was
not done in any other classification as 1A, 2A, 4A and 5A all stuck with the
traditional route of rotating region pairings for state tournament match-ups and
keeping them the same for all sports for the entire year. I don't agree
with that either but at least it ensures something like this won't happen
on consecutive years
Lesson to learn here is that the squeaky wheel gets the grease I guess... or the
weeping wheel rather.
Great article and thanks for making things a lot more clear Amy.Life
is not fair and sometimes innocents get hurt.Football is a TEAM
sport. You win, lose, and are penalized as a team.In high school the
TEAM is a lot broader than just the athletes; including student body,
administration, coaches, faculty and so forth.While the East
athletes may be punished for so called "administration errors" that is a
a lot more consistant than punishing OTHER TEAMS for the "administration
errors" committed by East.
@SLCguy... I thought I had read that now the East Prinicpal is back peddling on
his commitment to resign if East was allowed to play in the playoffs.
A seeding system? Ok, but how will it work? I get that sometimes a particular
region is a little better (or a lot) than others. But how will they be seeded.
Please don't tell me by computer rankings and SOS like the BCS, because
right now, that things about as broken as it gets, unless you talk to someone
from the SEC, and then they'll tell you it's the fairest thing in the
land, even fairer than Snow White! Anyway, I'm skeptical of how this
seeding system will work. I am however, open minded, so someone please fill me
in if you are in the know.
People who are saying that seeding doesn't matter and that "you have to
play the best teams anyway" are not thinking straight. If it really
doesn't matter then why do all of the profesional sports and the college
basketball tournament have a seeding process? If it doesn't matter, like
some are saying, then the pro sports and march madness should just throw the
teams in a hat and pull out the seeds and go from there.
Another Question: Did the players do anything wrong? Why were they
"ineligible" or was it a technical infraction where someone didn't
dot an i or cross a t?
Well, here's your problem: "different schools determine
eligibility differently. But under the UHSAA rules, principals are charged with
the responsibility of deciding who is or isn't eligible and submitting that
list to the UHSAA."That's simply wrong. The principals
only decide who is eligible based on their standing in the school based on
grades and failed classes. They have NOTHING to do with deciding it, in terms
of move-ins and new kids.See, the thing is...schools don't get
to determine ANYTHING about eligibility on move-ins. If a kid moves into your
school who played or tried out at another school at any time between summer
before 9th grade and the present, you HAVE to think of them as ineligible, until
you get transfer paperwork signed by the prior principal, present principal,
coaches, and parents, and then submit it and get it approved by the UHSAA.
There is simply no possible way that ANY athletic director or coach could mess
that up.And anyone that isn't doing that with every new kid in
their program is playing fast and loose with the rules.
Now it is time for Herriman to do what the UHSAA could not. Send East home,
justice will be served on the field