"We've been teaching our children for decades that if you pay money to
sit in the stands, then you're entitled to pretty much say or do what you
want."That is correct. As long as you are within the confines of
the law you can say or do what you want. It's called being a fan and it is
protected by the First Amendment. Want more civility? Go to High Tea
and eat cucumber sandwiches.BTW -- The fans are frequently correct
about "idiot coaches". In the case of KC, had the Chiefs pulled Cassell
he would still be healthy and the team might have won the game.
Reminds me of all the Ute fans who still heap vitriol on Max Hall for being
outraged about the way his family was treated. People forget the reason why he
felt as he did, only that he was angry at all Ute fans (not knowing which ones
were responsible, only that the culture had gotten out of hand). I'm sure
BYU fans also will make regrettable mistakes. We can't expect athletes and
their families to take endless abuse.
@eastcoastcougI'm afraid you've got the facts mixed up.
Ute fans still heap vitriol on Max Hall not because he called us classless, but
because he lied about what happened to his family during the game. He slandered
an entire group of people over an incident that never actually happened. As the
author pointed out, everybody has a camera now days, but yet there's not a
single photo of the alleged incident with Max Hall's parents. Keep in mind
Max Hall also accused Arizona St. fans of doing the same thing, and once again
there is not a single photo.On the other hand, there are photos of a
BYU fan assaulting Kyle Whittingham's wife. So yes, you can be sure BYU
fans will make "regrettable mistakes."
Robin,How do you know Max lied? Lack of a photo?? Are photo's
the only way to prove threatening phone calls or beer being poured on fans?
I'm saying BYU fans are not perfect, but you're saying Ute fans ARE??
It's one thing to try to excuse behavior. It's quite
another to deny it every happens. You and I both know there is some stuff going
on at Utah-BYU games and it's not all from the BYU side....I
know plenty of classy Ute fans. Your behavior, sadly, is illustrative of this
@eastcoastcougI was sitting four rows behind his family and nothing
happened...that's how I know he lied.And you do know that beer
isn't sold at Rice-Eccles Stadium, right?
robinget real, the u sells no beer, but much of the crowd hauls it in.
Thank you above commentators for proving her right. :) What you say is so true.
My husband and I both coach and play multiple sports. If we want our children to
grow up with respect and civility, we as adults need to be the example for them.
It is a sad thing when kids see their parents out of control at a community rec
game. And it is sad to take a look in the mirror and see that sometimes, we are
the problem. Nice commentary, I enjoyed it.
First off I agree there is a problem with sportsmanship in our society. Secondly
it's not more social media's fault than the regular news media. People
love to report whats bad or wrong because of the "oh no they
didn't,...really" type responses they invoke. Most of Ms.
Donaldson's stories are upbeat and positive, thank you for attempting to
keep them that way. I do have a problem though with her claims of being
unbiased. Although she may try to keep her stories that way, no one is truly
unbiased. This article is a perfect example, placing most the blame for the
epidemic of poor sportsmanship on parents, coaches and social media while not
recognizing or pointing out t.v., radio and news papers have just as much to do
with this problem. I think of myself as a reasonably good sport but we all have
our moments of weakness. Recognizing those moments and striving not to repeat
them the best we can will eventually bring us back to civility and good
sportsmanship in athletics. Own what you do and don't pass the buck openly
admit it and do better next time.
Very appropriate article this time of year. I film a few youth football games
each fall and I think I'm going to leave the camera on a little between
plays and catch the ridiculous things that fans yell at refs and sometimes at
coaches and players. My favorite are the screams about a call on the other side
of the field. "Come on, he caught that in bounds!"Sadly,
there are a few coaches out there that should NOT ever be coaching these kids.
Especially, when this may be the youth's first experience with a particular
sport. Hopefully, those coaches can either be weeded out or they are able to
learn that they look like an idiot yelling uncontrollably at someone else.
Fortunately, those seem to be the exception and most youth coaches do a great
job at helping the player have a positive experience.Unfortunately,
there are still many fans, coaches and players that suffer from some sort of
"hatred" towards the opposition (or maybe life in general) and may never
figure out how to keep a lid on it. Maybe that's their only outlet in life
to release some pent up anger.
Robin/Sherlock,Then explain to me how I've had beer poured on
me at two different RES games vs. BYU. I'm sure no one comes in with any
alcohol.Again, your denial of any wrong-doing based on your sole
observation is appalling. I seriously doubt you actually sat 4 rows behind
Hall's family. If you did, how did you know recognize them? Did they
identify themselves? Did you ever take your eyes off of them the whole game? How
were you able to hear all the conversation from 4 rows back? Most
people would have a real hard time keeping minute track of events during a
spirited football game from even 2 rows behind. But this is off-topic. Your
denial is what facilitates the behavior talked about in this article.
In my 25 plus years of officiating youth sports I can attest to two main
problems and their sources of unsportsmanlike behavior1- Some
Coaches - they loose control and try to blame the loss on everyone else,
including officating. They do not teach sportsmanship on the fiels2
- Some Parents - This is by far the biggest reason for unsportsmanship. They
live through their kids and lose control of their emotions. They yell and scream
all type of unprintable comments at officials, Players, other team's
coaches and players. They believe that winning is the "ONLY THING" that
counts in life.I used the term "Some" because it is unfair
to those coaches and parents that do try to teach and model good sportsmanship.
I can't thank you enough for this article. I am a fan of the Kansas City
Chiefs and you were emailed by a a friend of mine in support of your article as
I posted it in our group that opposes fan violence. She wrote you after I
posted your article in our group and I would like to thank you for helping us
out. Yes, my beloved Chiefs are at a horrific 1-5; yet I will support them...as
I have for most of my life. Yet, with our record being such that it is, the
sniping going on between Chiefs fans is appalling.Thank you again
and any support you can give us would be more than helpful.