Can't say I really understand the reason why. I hope it is not just
because the neighborhood complained. I guess either way, the church proved to
be the bigger man in giving in. I hope that the church can find a way to make
missionary work progress and go forward despite of the neighborhood. I would
have to say that beings that the neighborhood is right in the heart of BYU and
Provo that several members are in this neighborhood, and they choose to put
their views ahead of the church's motivation to move forward. Just
don't get it.
The details of this news were quite vague. I think the announcement may
indicate a combination of trying to appease the neighborhood and reassess the
needed expansion in light of the recent announcement regarding missionary
service at General Conference. Though in general I think those living in this
neighborhood need to be more understanding and cooperative with what appears to
be an inevitable expansion of some kind when it comes back again. The level of
rancor earlier was disheartening.
The voice of the few... damaging the hopes of many.
This decision reflects poorly on the members living in the MTC area.
This is a great thing the church has done. Back when they built the original
MTC on that site, the church made a promise that buildings would not be very
tall. I'm glad the church is not going back on their word. That location
is not a good site for such a tall building, surrounded by residential. If the church wants to build up, perhaps they ought to build a new MTC
campus in a different location that allows them to build tall buildings. Maybe
they could build a new MTC campus on the west edge of BYU's campus on
University Ave. near Bulldog Blvd or University Parkway. Those intersections
are prime for redevelopment and would be able to sustain 9+ story buildings.
I suspect that a confluence of factors led to this decision such as the lowering
of the minimum age of women which will result in a "permanent" increase
in the number of sister missionaries. The increase in demand from this may have
resulted in the realization that the 9 floor building is no longer adequate for
the next phase in the MTC's growth. Neighborhood pressure seems to have
also factored in. It may be that the demand will be such that it makes more
sense to build a parallel campus somewhere else and that over time, this could
replace the existing one if expansion were phased. There are both challenges and
problems with having the MTC adjacent to BYU.
I think that this would be a perfect building to be built on the parking lot
just to the west of the Conference Center in downtown Salt Lake City. The LDS
Church does own a lot of parking lots near the Temple Campus that would be great
to use for expansion.With the coming Airport Trax line, this would
save time and money if the missionaries would be able to both arrive and depart
without needing to have trips to the airport. The missionaries could also be
accompanied to the airport by their families on the Trax train.If
the parking lot to the west of the Conference Center wouldn't work, there
is the lot to the west of the museum and family history buildings (where they
stored equipment and offices while building City Creek).I say bring
it to Downtown Salt Lake City. At least there they could build higher and
expand as needed.
I don't see this as necessarily reflecting poorly on the members involved.
It is legitimate to raise concerns about one's neighborhood. This was
never an all or nothing scenario. There have always been additional options
that might create more of a win/win situation. I was much more disappointed in
the threats made by certain LDS church leaders in response to those concerns.
It appears that cooler Church heads have prevailed and seen the value in
discussion over dictation.
I know the Church won their cause in places where many temples and other types
of buildings have been built, in very difficult locations. Hopefully, it is not
the local neighbors as the neighbors in other non-church areas will state that
is a good reason to not build a temple, which can be very tall, in their area.
We all sacrifice for the cause, no matter where we live and where we
work. That part of Zion is located at BYU Provo and people should expect growth
and up is part of that growth. What a legacy that the MTC with the flow of
missionaries to increase in the next year or two and to be part of that growth.
This is a complex situation but people in Utah sometimes lose the
vision for progress and growth. This Church is not the government and they work
so well with people of all religious, languages, cultures, local leaders and
nationalities and ethnic groups, everywhere.I know this was a
difficult decision as the leaders are guided in their hard decisions in relation
to missionary service and the mission of the Church.The Provo temple
is a perfect location for missionaries.
Maybe they should build an MTC near Rexburg, Idaho where more land is available?
I can't help but wonder how many people this would have put to work in such
a terrible economy. I hope the residents of Pleasant View neighborhood are
Maybe the members in the surrounding area would be willing to house some
missionaries in their humble abodes? Well,.................maybe.
Every body here who thinks the neighborhood is in the wrong in opposing the tall
building, would have done exactly the something if it were in your own
I don't know why the church doesn't just say why instead of saying
"complexities" and "concerns". Just say the neighborhood
didn't want a tall building and due to the recent missionary age
requirement change we may need much more than 9 stories!
There's already a large piece of land that has a huge building on it--on
the other side of that same neighborhood. And it surely is a bigger eyesore and
causes more trouble to the neighborhood than a few missionaries coming and going
at the MTC--few relative to the numbers who go to that great and spacious
building.The football stadium. Tear it down and build the new MTC
there. As the dearly departed Steven Covey would say, it's
Kudos to the church for listening to the concerns of the local residents and not
going back on previous promises. I fail to see how the local
resident's concerns about this being built turns them into bad members. I
am sure if there were no other options and this definitely had to be done to
move the work forward than most of them would be okay with it. I don't
think that's the case though, there are lots of others options to consider
that may work better for everyone involved.
I'm thinking that perhaps the neighbors were not consulted prior to the
decision for a 9-story building was made. And if the Church actually did make
these plans without talking with neighbors then I am glad to see that it stepped
back from plans to move on it; for such a tall building that is not in the
immediate vicinity of the BYU campus with taller buildings would seem out of
place. I don't think there is any need to be judgmental toward
either side. It's important for any business, when planning to build, to
consider and consult residential neighborhoods if possible if it will impact
them. I don't live in UT but would be disappointed, indeed, if there were
any hotheaded "threats" made by Church officials. And it's just
as important for those in the neighborhoods not to be hotheaded and to speak
respectfully with their concerns of opposition. I'm sure the Church will
come up with a solution that will benefit all. After all, they are being led
by the Lord and it is His work. Whatever is decided will probably be better.
Hmmm! "Lovest thou me more than the value of your property and the view of
Sorry but here in AZ where we fight for every chapel and temple to be built, the
thought of "good church members" fighting this expansion makes me shake
my head.Would love to hear what brother Brigham would have said to those
who didn't want the Salt Lake temple so tall.We are becoming a
selfish self indulging people who think that sacrifice is good....you go first.
i can't believe their are people on here putting the blame on the
neighborhood. someone already pointed out a promise made years ago about mtc
buildings not exceeding a certain size. but because homeowners nearby voiced
their opinions, and exercised their right to disagree with something the church
wanted to do-they are made out to be the bad guy. just because we live in utah,
doesn't mean the dominant religions needs come first.
I am glad the church listened to the community. I would hate to have a
nine-story building in my neighborhood as that is not what I bargained for when
I bought here. We are asked to sustain our church leaders.
That's two-way communication. If I see a problem in my ward, I should
respectfully communicate it to my bishop. Same with my stake president for a
problem in the stake. Having served in bishoprics and a stake presidency, I have
seen this happen often. It is not a problem. If the neighbors were respectful,
then there is no problem. There are solutions to this problem. The
appointed persons just need to find them - even if it take help from above.
Although I would not have been against the new building if I lived in the
neighborhood, I can see where their arguments are coming from. I think building
another MTC either in or near SLC or in Rexburg as has been suggested would be a
good idea. If they can't build tall buildings at the Provo MTC, there
really isn't any room to expand the capacity of that MTC any more than it
already has been.
I don't see why anyone would feel so strongly about this that they
can't help but express some kind of disappointment in either the community,
the church, leaders, or the grasshoppers that live on the BYU campus just
ruining the grass leaving no room for anyone else's enjoyment and good
living.The only judgement I feel is adequate to pronounce is my
disappointment in the existence of such little disputes that none of us gain
from. Bad disputes, bad! Go away! (if only that actually worked...)In the meantime, I think the decision of The Church of Jesus Christ of
Latter-day Saints is a respectful one and a good. If I can find anything to be
said of it, I find it virtuous. It is my hope and prayer that what develops from
this will be even better than we could have hoped for before. Knowing our Father
in Heaven, I'm sure it will be.I hope we will try to be of good
cheer. This is good news, not an excuse to fault each other and point fingers.
The work goes on and more lives will be blessed. Be of good cheer!=)
How is this a Win-Win situation? It sounds like the neighborhood won, and
everyone else lost. That would be a Win-Lose situation. I guess if you're
on the winning side it's easier to think of it as Win-Win. It wasn't
even a compromise, which would have been better than Win-Lose or Lose-Win, but
not as good as Win-Win or Win-Win-Win. But it definitely wasn't Win-Win.
If the church decided it was best not to build the tall building, and the
neighbors are pleased and grateful, why are others continuing to criticize the
neighborhood? Whether one thinks the neighbors should have made sacrifices for
this plan or not, the matter was not handled in a consistent way ... in the way
the church usually addresses neighbor views. The church was right to step back
and work with the neighbors rather than set aside their reasonable concerns.
Plus, we have to remember there are quite likely non-LDS people living there
too. When they are forgotten and set-aside, we justly earn the sometimes
negative reputation attached to Utah / Utah Valley. The fact is there is very
likely a solution that will work well for everyone, even if it isn't
optimal. It's worth it to look further to find that solution.
I think that many people have made great comments. Certainly the Church will
come up with a much better plan. It will all work out for the best. I have
heard that a majority of residents in Laie (who are also of the L.D.S. religion)
have refused to allow BYU-H to expand. It is unfortunate that they seem to feel
that their quiet way of life will be negatively affected. Expansion would allow
more students to have an opportunity to attend the school. More jobs will be
added to the area - much needed jobs. The model is beautiful and keeps with the
culture of the area. I look forward to seeing BYU Hawaii tear down the old dorms
and replace them with new, air-conditioned units and I hope to hear someday that
they are able to improve the campus.
The neighbors are acting like they do when a Temple goes up. And these are LDS
people. To me its strange. I think the new MTC drawings were fantastic. I could
almost feel the angles there. I would trade homes with anyone living there. Its
right where it all starts with our missionaries. I would have loved to live by
the new updated MTC. Please tell me reasons against it? Provo is turning
into a mature town with more tall buildings. Some will have to decide if that is
what they want. Our environments are always changing. May be time to move.
Others would like to live there.
I'll trade my home from Mesa Arizona to live there with that beautiful
building. Missionaries tracked me out and I have a soft spot in my heart for
them. This was the most obvious place to put them. The drawings were wonderful.
I'd be honored to live there where angels walk. The early saints were much
more agreeable. They suffered hardships for decisions the church made and were
never the worse for it. The testimonies strong, they prayed about things that
may troubled them. They got their answers. The work went forward. Like I said, I
have a beautiful home here with a swimming pool. I can't wait to see the
homes around the MTC. I hope they change their minds and keep it here.
Being not far from there myself, I think this is a really unfortunate
outcome.One the one hand, I don't buy the claims that property
values would plummet, I think a lot of people were getting awfully worked up
about something that wasn't their property and would only affect them very
marginally, and it always sounded to me like the people remembering a promise
not to build higher had no evidence to back them up and may well have
misremembered or misinterpreted what was said decades before. On the
other hand, in dealing with zoning, permit, etc issues throughout the rest of
the world, the Church's modus operandi is (as it ought to be) to work
within the normal political process. MTC folks should have done better at
engaging with that process, spreading the word about why property values
wouldn't fall, why other options wouldn't meet their needs, etc. Most
importantly, ecclesiastical mixed signals and/or intimidation don't mix
well with that process.If both sides had been better prepared for
constructive dialogue, I think either the planned building or some modification
thereof could have been built without causing real harm or acrimony.
I can understand a huge building not being appropriate maybe for that
area...what about 3 story buildings but like maybe 3 of them...done in such a
fashion as octagonal..making a center courtyard area..encased with in the
buildings...its hard to go up that high anyway...and much better to have less
I would like to know why there were complaints/concerns about the proposed
building. I am trying to understand why a neighbor would complain over a needed
expansion of the MTC building, especially if they are LDS. It seems obvious
there would be a need to expand, considering the amount of missionaries has
For a lot of members of the Church, living out of the USA, there's a lot of
reasons for our quality of lives to be derate, and we can't do anything
about it; it's very strange that those people in Provo, can't see that
there's a greater reason for that sacrifice to be done, the very work of
When the MTC was originally built, the Church promised the neighborhood they
would not build over five stories. It is good to see the Church realize that it
has to keep its promise. It's hard to "Follow the Prophet" when the
First Presidency isn't keeping its own promises. Even worse was the letter
telling the neighborhood that it's time to "support the brethren"
when 'the brethren' weren't keeping their promise. Cancelling the
promise-breaking building was the right thing to do, and I congratualte the
Church for realzing it and doing so. I just hope that the new plan isn't to
rezone the protesting neighbohood, drive the land owners out, and build on
former residential property.
If the Church needs more space, why not DIG deep and make a building with many
levels underground? That is a win-win situation.
Not a lot different than Billings, Montana or Boston where the neighbors tried
to stop church construction. The spire of the temple had to be left off the
Boston temple but later the city allowed it. I look at these neighbors as a
bunch of childish, selfish, shortsighted kids that pouted until they got their
way. The building would have been a nice addition and at nine stories isn't
particularly tall. After all they were not asking to construct a junk yard or
something. The temple across the street is most likely of similar height. Good
thing the church built it when they did as they would have most likely stopped
construction of it too.
My parents live in this neighborhood and knowing the impact this building would
have I find it incredibly judgmental and ignorant for people who do not have all
the facts or know the history to sit in judgment of the people in this
neighborhood. My family lived here long before the MTC was built or BYU
encircled our home and land. The Church made a promise when they built the MTC
that they would not build anything over three stories tall and that was a
condition the Church agreed to so the city council would give a zoning waiver
for the MTC to be built in a residential neighborhood. There was no discussion,
we had a plan for a zoning violation dumped on us and told to deal with it. The
neighborhood wanted an explanation and alternatives not a mandate and veiled
threats that it is an "ecclesiastic issue" so you better shut up and
watch your property values and quality of life drop. The building would have
completely blocked the view my family have of the mountains and been an eyesore.
Why don't you consider what a 9 story building next to your house would
For all you self righteous, judgmental tools, keep in mind that not every person
in this neighborhood is a member and not everyone wants their neighborhood
adversely affected because the Church cannot come up with a better plan or live
up to the agreement they made. There are plenty of other suitable options for
expanding the MTC, the huge grassy field across the street for example. Many
people in the local the ward were outspoken in their opposition to the 9 story
building until a letter was read in sacrament meeting making this an
"ecclesiastical issue" not a zoning issue or community issue. The
church threw down their trump card and instantly almost all of the opposition
among members was silenced. My father came home from that sacrament meeting and
said, "I will support it now that they say it is an ecclesiastical
issue". I admire my fathers dedication and faith but personally the tactics
the Church used disgusted me.
@Prodicus, it is really to say it would only affect people marginally when it
isn't your neighborhood or your house. Lets build a 9 story building a
block away from your house and then see how you feel!
The people of the neighborhood should consider that just because the Church is
not going to build there doesn't mean that someone else might not go after
the property. The LDS Church is a wonderful neighbor, maintaining
their properties and bringing a positive, peaceful spirit. I, for one, would
not mind them being near me, nor having my community help host the thousands of
missionaries that would be nearby.
@Warrior Parent, MarkA, and the rest.re: "The voice of the
few... damaging the hopes of many."Do you really think the
Church is going refuse a single hopeful missionary because they were not able
build this building? If you think that, then you don't have much faith in
the Church's ability to fulfill its mission. The Church will build
somewhere else, and anyone who wants to serve a mission will be allowed.
The missionary program is the work of The Lord. Too many people in the church
put their own feelings ahead of the gospel today. I would think the people in
that neighborhood would welcome such development. The church always designs
buildings that are beautiful. This sounds like behavior we would expect to find
in Missouri or somewhere else that anti sentiment is high. But in the heart of
the happy valley? One person said anyone posting here would have done the same
thing if they lived in that area. Obviously not or we would not be here saying
the things we are. It would be an honor for me to live next door to a building
that was inspired by The Lord. Yes, I said inspired. Every six months as members
of the church we raise our hands and sustain the general authorities as
God's chosen leaders of His Kingdom here on earth. The leaders of the
church make a decision it comes from God himself. So this building decision came
directly from God. Now the people in this neighborhood (if they are members)
have chosen to argue with God.
I too feel it may be time to locate a second center in the continental U.S. It
could be a good time to split English speaking from language training or a
facility just for sisters. The need for more facilities will be next to
immediate. Facilities near Temple Square may need to be used, along with the
Salt Lake Plaza Hotel for housing.
Now since the barn (MTC) has been delayed being build. The farmers have no
place to store the harvest. The shepherds(missionaries) of the Master will
delay loading up their wagon loads of hay to go out and feed his sheep and
After looking at the posted photos I really don't see what the big deal
was. I don't think it would have changed much for the neighborhood.
This is known as the "Pleasant View" neighborhood. Each homeowner in the
neighborhood should have been polled IN PERSON. The results would have been
overwhelmingly FOR the MTC. Now we have to live next door to these sorry,
selfish 1% who the media backed. Verily, they shall have their reward.
I'm sure the community concerns had something to do with it but I doubt the
decision was made solely upon those concerns. I also trust that the Church has
other options that may work better at this time. The work of the Lord goes on
and will not be hindered by a change in location. I look forward to hearing of
the new plans and location.
This "neiborHOOD" opposition will not harm the Church's missionary
efforts at all. I see MTCs being built in many other locations, close to
Temples, closer to home, just like the Church does in many countries around the
minnie- you are right.There are LDS members from all over the world who would
not only LOVE the chance to live in this neighborhood and have the 9 story
building, they would also welcome and accept a 30 story building at the MTC if
that was what Church Leaders needed. Pretty bold to call themselves
believing active LDS members, who think they know better than the Prophet and
The Church might have made a promise a long time ago about construction in this
area, but if these neighbors are Temple recommend carrying members, they made a
different kind of promise too. Which promise if more valid I dare to ask?If I lived up there, I would welcome this construction. It means more
missionary work is moving forward, which is a good thing, and supposedly what we
in the church want to see happen. It's our obligation to make sure that
happens without interference. Some here say they should build in SLC. To them
I say, there are strong reasons why it's in Provo. Where are they going to
build now with the current MTC? There isn't much space there to build out.
This is very disappointing news.
well I would love to see regional MTC's those in between the rocky's
and the Mississippi got to provo have one for the west coast one for thee east
coast and that would help the influx.
How many returned missionaries work at the MTC in the various jobs or callings
that people have for language, culture and other instructors that may be needed
and especially available in Provo.The Ogden temple was a duplicate
of the Provo temple and it has been completely remodeled and basically a new
design. The temples in other locations such as Rexburg would have to be
significantly larger to take care of missionaries as Provo is used now.There are so many logistical and other issues that are complex, it is
definitely a complex issue that uses tithing monies to fix.Provo is
still an ideal place due to the proximity to the BYU campus and Provo Temple.
The new temple downtown would require many bus trips a day and that is a waste
for missionaries time, which is logistical once again.It makes so
much sense to have the MTC be where it is and the Church has worked more complex
issues than this one with Salt Lake City's mayor in the 1990s for the
downtown SLC area for all the building the Church has done there. Of course,
that is commercial but most temples are residential areas, harder.
What is most discouraging to me about this issue is all of the comments
submitted on this post several months back when plans were first announced.
Several individuals said some pretty 'unkind' things about the church
and it's bullying and high handed measures in always getting what it wanted
in spite of public concerns. I did not see anyone recanting those earlier words
and I doubt those individuals will respond.Building in Salt Lake is
an idea, but the church has poured lots of energy and funds into a partnership
relationship between the resources of BYU, the proximity to the temple and the
MTC's needs and mission. I am sure that the church will come up with an
even better solution. I don't think neighbors should be labeled in a
negative way, and certainly not in any way resembling labels thrown at the
church.Let's all try to get along and work towards solutions
which will benefit everyone; even if compromise is required.
Tear down the football stadium that the people there worship and build the new
While I can understand the neighbors concerns, I agree that there are many
members around the world who would be thrilled to live near the MTC; the Spirit
of God is strong there and in the surrounding areas and it would be a blessing
to live there.Really though, now that the Church has decided not to build
there, it's a moot point, and I am not in a position to judge any of the
neighbors who opposed the building.I really don't think the Church
made this decision because of the communities' opposition. I think they
must have other plans in store.As a BYU-Idaho graduate, I would love
to see an MTC built in Rexburg. I don't see that being any easier though
than in Provo. BYU-Idaho's rapid expansion in recent years has caused
tension with the local community. I don't know that it would be any
different with a new MTC facility.
I think it's important for the Church to keep it's word. They told the
neighborhood they would not exceed 4 stories when they moved there. I commend
them for sticking to their word.The neighborhood had a right to
remind them of the covenant they made.
I think that everyone agrees on here that the church made the right decision in
not putting up a huge 9 story building..I dont even like the idea of young men
running up and down a huge building like that. so what I said earlier about
maybe three buildings and have them form a geometric shape ..sort of connecting
and having a middle courtyard...the buildings only being 3stores high as was
stated earlier on....sounds good to me..I dont think any church authority has
power to make anyone do anything....we have our free agency...and they need to
follow the promises they made earlier and it seems they are...men are
falliable...so we must forgive and work together to sort this out...
I assume that part of the Church's change is that they need to revise plans
due to the recent announcement in age reduction for missionaries. But it's
interesting to see that the Church can work with other groups all over the world
to build chapels and temples, yet in Happy Valley where there should be a shared
vision and support, there is so much opposition. -Promise not to
build tall buildings? No documented promise was ever found. In three different
posts here, three different claims - no more than 3, 4, 5 stories. So the
complainers can't even agree about the alleged promise.-Wanting to
build higher than allowed? The zoning allows 9 story buildings.-Blocking a
sliver of mountain view? Please.-gratefulmouse says that everyone agrees
it shouldn't be built. Yeah right - not even remotely.It's
interesting that there are many in the neighborhood who have promised to give
all they own to the Church if it ever becomes necessary, but then they complain
about a building. Well guess what - small things like giving up a small piece of
your mountain view for a higher purpose are included in that promise.
It's all rather confusing to me and I just have to trust the Lord. And
trust that the Brethren are acting under divine guidance following sincere
fasting and prayer. It's not clear to me whether this is a temporal issue
or an ecclesiastical issue or a spiritual isse or what but either way, it seem
it must be terribly important to God and I just hope we will all support our
Prophets, Seers and Revelators as they do the right thing while acting with the
power and authority of the Holy Priesthood. Some things are meant to try our
All of these ideas of moving the MTC just don't make sense. The reason the
MTC works so well at it's present location, is the missionaries can walk to
the temple when they visit once a week. If the MTC were place next to another
temple in another city, the MTC would lose a lot of their employees which are
BYU students. Where else could you get the concentration of members looking for
jobs who speak so many different languages. No, the MTC isn't going
@ SLars 7:58 p.m. Oct. 13, 2012Then, why did the church submit plans
for a 9 story building? Even, the cast of the Jersey Shore knows 9
Perhaps a 9-story MTC near the new Provo City Center Temple would be acceptable,
and still have access to RMs at BYU. As mentioned earlier, I also like the
possibility of locating English-speaking MTCs outside of Utah, in places such as
Kansas City MO, and Buena Vista, VA. Rexburg would be great for a Sisters only
MTC. I'm sure these ideas and others have been considered.Until around 1980, all missionaries spent a week in the Salt Lake Missionary
Home, then language missionaries would go to the Provo LTM, Rexburg LTM for
Scandinavian languages, or Laie LTM for pacific rim languages, while English
missionaries would depart to their fields of labor.
Perhaps this is an opportunity in disguise - an MTC in a location other than
Utah might be that opportunity - perhaps back here in the Eastern US.
Hmmm. I like the idea of a new complex in downtown SLC. Close to the Salt Lake
temple. Easy access to the airport. Plenty of space available for a 9 story high
rise...or more. That's where the "Mission Home" used to be.
While I am firmly behind the church's plan and mission, I don't see
any problem with any neighbor in the area voicing their concerns and working to
make sure they are addressed. It is just a part of getting it right. No need
to wield religion or antireligion for or against it. The only
opposition to this I have a problem with are those who oppose just to oppose.
There are those who will never, ever, ever want the church to lift its finger to
do anything without first apologizing for the world's problems. The church has shown its willingness to work to try to get the best result.
Of course, it takes two to tango. Let's work it out.
Sorry M. Butler, the football stadium is not a building. And from up the hill
on Stadium Avenue, you can't even see it. Although you can see the
lights.The missionary force is about to explode and they need the
room to house the influx that will happen starting when school is out for the
current high school seniors and women.They need the room (yes I said
that again). Frankly these people are being selfish. If the Church wanted to
build a 9 story building in Kearns, I'd say fine.With their
attitude, they'd not like the temple either. Wait until the Provo temple
re-build just like Ogden. Bet it comes, bet the temple gets expanded, bet the
SCANDRUS, the MTC is built at the edge of a residential area, not in it itself.
I agree. Put the 9 story building right there across the street from the temple
and ruin the view for those that live above the temple. We wouldn't even
be able to see the temple from the Diagnal. The problem is, and the reason for
the expansion is that there is no room left at the MTC to expand. It was built
like, 35 years ago. I'll bet the zoning in the area has changed in those
intervening years and most of the people that lived there then are gone. You
live in Cedar Hills. Why do you care? I'll bet most of the homes in that
area now house some of the student population. I know that is the case on
It saddens me that LDS members of a community would be opposed to the MTC
expanding in the way the church best saw fit (for expenses, etc.) and dare to
get in the way of God's work. I agree with Clark Moulton:"I think the orange balloons, like all balloons, are full of hot
air," he said. "There's nothing more exciting than the work of the
Lord. They could build it in my front yard."