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  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    Oct. 11, 2012 8:47 a.m.

    I don't think vp debates have quite that much sway. It would be nice to see Joe do well, though.

  • Counter Intelligence Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 11, 2012 9:31 a.m.

    Debate moderator, Martha Raddatz worked on the Harvard Law Review with Obama. Obama attended her 1991 wedding. Obama appointed her husband, Julius Genachowski, to the Federal Communications Commission. Genachowski is a major fundraiser for the president’s re-election effort.

    I am sure Joe will be given every opportunity to shine

  • Liberal Ted Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 11, 2012 9:33 a.m.

    Joe has a chance, considering obama and the moderator are buddies. I think joe should be joe and he'll give us one good gaffe after another. If your serious about getting jobs and putting people back to work and cutting our debt and paying it off. Then you should listen to Paul Ryan as he explains his ideas of what needs to be done. It would be refreshing if the democrats came up with an idea other than "we'll raise taxes and borrow more money" that will save the nation! Just look at Spain, Greece and other european countries that have saved themselves by borrowing, spending, and taxing more....

    I think the vp debates have more sway than democrats are leading on. They're just scared what joe will do and say during the debate. Just like the job numbers this regime have fudged and changed how unemployed are counted. Smoke and mirrors. Find someone else to blame for each of their miserable failures.

    Hopefully this regime is on it's last leg and the American people are awake and aware of the crimes being committed against them by this regime.

  • Anti Government Alpine, UT
    Oct. 11, 2012 10:07 a.m.

    All Ryan has to do to win the debate would be to say "I would like to cede my time to VP Joe Biden" and then sit down.

    Joe Biden would sink himself with another one or more of his long list of gaffes where he admits "the middle class has been buried the last 4 years" and/or "yes, we plan to increase taxes by a trillion dollars".

    This guy is a train wreck that can't be stopped. The ironic thing is that all his gaffes are really just blatant honesty about how dire the economic situation is and how draconian their spending plans actually are.

    The dude has no filter which just lets everyone get a better insight to how deluded the democratic party is.

  • Dadof5sons Montesano, WA
    Oct. 11, 2012 10:45 a.m.

    OH Joe needs to be Joe! That is the biggest gaff yet. Is Obama taking a dive and tossing in the towel this election? Because what Joe are you going to get the mean nasty Joe? the Plagiarist Joe? The laughy Gaffy Joe? The Joe that just pulls numbers out of his four point contact Joe? It will be fun to watch!

  • Craig Clark Boulder, CO
    Oct. 11, 2012 10:47 a.m.

    Joe Biden is spectacular speaking off the cuff. The sometimes brash Ryan seems to have tried to curb his Mr. know it all persona since becoming the VP choice. Wise move, Kid Ryan. I wouldn’t miss this debate.

  • Wildcat O-town, UT
    Oct. 11, 2012 10:48 a.m.

    Good to see the righties making excuses already because they know Ryan's going to get schooled by Biden!

    Obama went to a wedding in 1991 of somebody he went to college with--heaven forefend! By the way, that couple has divorced about a decade ago.

    Ryan: Voucher Care, buddies with the "legitimate rape" guy and co-signed his bill, wants to gut social security (the very same he benefited from with survivor benfits), proposed budget that hammers middle class while benefiting the 1%, voted against Lilly Ledbetter Act

    Biden: Staunch supporter of middle-class, drafter of Violence Against Women Act, served with great leadership on Foreign Relations Committee, helped with arms control, great statesman, etc.

    Yeah, I can see how you are nervous about Ryan tonight, he's got a beat-down behind the woodshed coming! Yo Joe!

  • FT salt lake city, UT
    Oct. 11, 2012 10:55 a.m.

    Yawn. Lucky for America there are the MLB playoffs and an NFL game. Some Americans may find watching two baggage handlers act like kids but most will not.

  • Craig Clark Boulder, CO
    Oct. 11, 2012 11:19 a.m.

    "Debate moderator, Martha Raddatz worked on the Harvard Law Review with Obama. Obama attended her 1991 wedding. Obama appointed her husband, Julius Genachowski, to the Federal Communications Commission. Genachowski is a major fundraiser for the president’s re-election effort."

    ==========

    Martha Raddatz is from Salt Lake City and attended the University of Utah. You might want to update your profiles on liberal news media figures.

  • Say No to BO Mapleton, UT
    Oct. 11, 2012 11:37 a.m.

    @Craig
    Those are later elements of her bio and are true. She went to East High and the U in the 1970s.

  • Liberal Ted Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 11, 2012 12:26 p.m.

    @ Wildcat
    O-town, UT

    "Good to see the righties making excuses already because they know Ryan's going to get schooled by Biden!"

    You forget that this is a debate and not clown or gaffe school. The only thing joe has going for him, is that everyone (including his own party) knows he's incapable of not fouling things up in front of the camera.

    I expect the moderator, much like the last one during the president debate, to help joe when needed. I'm sure they rehearsed what to do. Remember when Jim had to tell the president what he should have been saying and trying to clarify things for the president. Then jim tried to interupt Romney and not allow him to speak or respond.

    It's just like football or other sports. You go on the field to play against your opponent and the refs. You just have to outperform.

    I'm sure the left media has been working on how to spin everything joe and ryan say, to make sure joe comes out godlike.

    Reading abc, nbc, cbs after the presidential debate you'd think obama controlled and did well; if you didn't watch

  • t702 Las Vegas, NV
    Oct. 11, 2012 12:42 p.m.

    Mr. empty suit#2 will be destroyed tonight which will be the final nail on their campaign coffin. How can you defend going without a budget for 4 years, the Libya debacle, Solyndra, etc? Can't wait to see Mr Jo explain away on their failure of the past 4 years...

  • UtahBruin Saratoga Springs, UT
    Oct. 11, 2012 12:49 p.m.

    @Craig Clark - "Joe is spectacular speaking off the cuff". Which part is he spectacular at? Is it the swear words? Is it the continued gaffs? Even Obama says that he has to real in Old Joe every now and again. We give Obama a hard time about tele-prompters. This guy needs one and has to stick to it. I am sorry but your statement is comical.

    @Wildcat - "Good to see the righties making excuses already"

    What excuses are being made? Because someone gives a fact about the moderator and who she is. But then again, I guess the left is use to hiding the truth and lying to the American people so they wanted this to go unnoticed. I personally could care less who she is or where she is from. I am not worried about Ryan at all tonight, he will represent just fine.

    @Craig Clark - "Martha Raddatz is from Salt Lake City and attended the University of Utah. You might want to update your profiles on liberal news media figures."

    Because Utah has no libs or left wingers here right? You want to check media figures, you may want to check political stats of a state.

  • Counter Intelligence Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 11, 2012 1:19 p.m.

    @Craig Clark

    What it is about your comment that negates the fact that Martha Raddatz has close ties to this administration?

    She could have been from Tulsa and gone to Oral Roberts University, but she still has far more than mere casual ties to Obama and her husband is financing Obama's campaign.

    Nice try at obfuscating though

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    Oct. 11, 2012 1:25 p.m.

    So the Comedy Central simulcast of the Joe Biden Roast is tonight. I've been waiting for this for weeks.

    I'm all ears tonight for some good ol' humor from good ol' Joe...

    "the intellect of the Democrat Party"... Thanks Clint!

    It's week #2 of the 'Prime Time Political Woodshed Hour'

  • Craig Clark Boulder, CO
    Oct. 11, 2012 1:33 p.m.

    "I expect the moderator, much like the last one during the president debate, to help joe when needed. I'm sure they rehearsed what to do."

    ==========

    You should pass along to Fox News how Obama and Lehrer conspired to fix the debate. Maybe Hannity and O'Reilly will fight over who gets the scoop.

    I expect Biden to get tough questions and follow-up from Martha Raddatz. She gives passive treatment to no one she grills. It should be a sharp contrast to Jim Lehrer failing to press Romney when he neatly sidestepped answering the question of whether his Medicare plan would be to voucherize it. But Jim is getting up there in years and is slowing down which turned out to be an early Christmas present for Mitt Romney last week.

  • Counter Intelligence Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 11, 2012 1:53 p.m.

    "You should pass along to Fox News how Obama and Lehrer conspired to fix the debate." AKA I know you are but what am I

    So now pointing out the ties that the debate moderator has to the Obama campaign is a Fox News issue?

    another nice (but blatant) try at obfuscating

  • man of few words Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 11, 2012 2:13 p.m.

    I wonder if Joe will refer to Pres. Obama as “the first mainstream African American candidate, who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy” again.

  • man of few words Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 11, 2012 2:17 p.m.

    "Hillary Clinton is as qualified or more qualified than I am to be vice president of the United States of America. Quite frankly, it might have been a better pick than me." --Joe Biden

  • man of few words Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 11, 2012 2:18 p.m.

    "You cannot go to a 7-11 or a Dunkin' Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent.... I'm not joking." --Joe Biden

  • man of few words Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 11, 2012 2:28 p.m.

    If something ever happened to Obama, Biden would be in charge....

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Oct. 11, 2012 3:28 p.m.

    Say what you want about Joe but I would take Joe 100-1 over Obama as president. Not saying much I know but at least Biden - although he may be dumb - isn't a radical + dumb.

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    Oct. 11, 2012 3:34 p.m.

    Wildcat,
    Your interpretation of Ryan and his budget indicate you have been watching too much MSNBC

    Craig,
    You site where she went to high school and college
    They say what has happened in the last 4 years
    and THEY need to update their bios? REALLY?

  • FT salt lake city, UT
    Oct. 11, 2012 3:53 p.m.

    Hopefully Joe just take his false teeth out and dumps them in a glass of water right at the start. That will startle Paul "I never had a job" Ryan and get him back peddling faster than B.O. at a presidental debate.

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 11, 2012 3:53 p.m.

    @man of few words
    "If something ever happened to Obama, Biden would be in charge...."

    You do realize that the alternative was Palin right? Anyway, I'd much rather have Biden in there than Ryan. Ryan's radical budget that lowers tax rates on Romney to 0 (by eliminating the capital gains tax) and slashes Medicaid by over a third, as well as his far-right extremism on social issues (he's the one who worked with Akin on limiting abortions to just "forcible rape") is not what we need.

  • Wildcat O-town, UT
    Oct. 11, 2012 4:15 p.m.

    Ann Romney on Mitt, "I think my biggest concern obviously would be for his mental-well being."

    If Romney wins, Romney will be in charge--well actually not really, Koch Enterprises et al would be, but you never know what Mitt would be at the podium: moderate Mitt or severely conservative Mitt.

    "A well-lubricated weather vane"-- Jon Huntsman Jr. on Mitt Romney

    Romney is like the Governor of Texas in the show The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas: he likes to dance a little sidestep. The reporters talking to each other on that show sum him up well.

    "Did you get any of that?"
    "I hear him talking but he don't come in."

    "Is that a yes or a no?"
    "It's a possible maybe."

  • WHAT NOW? Saint George, UT
    Oct. 11, 2012 6:09 p.m.

    90 minutes is not enough time for ryan to explain his various explanations regarding his budget proposal...so eagerly adopted/reset, rebooted, etch-a-sketched by severely moderate (today) multiple choice mitt.

    ryan's own words.

    And, don't bother fact-checking the debate.

    Which Romney has stated he won't let fact-checkers (except FOX NEWS) determine the daily reclarifications of his campaign.

    So, ryan can feel free to avoid all archived positions on the economy, foreign policy, immigration, personhood, woman's rights etc., and make-up new position statements.

    Just like Which Romney.

    No problem.

  • one vote Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 11, 2012 9:27 p.m.

    Romney team stays right of right.

  • JWB Kaysville, UT
    Oct. 12, 2012 1:06 a.m.

    After seeing the debate with the tirades of Biden interrupting Paul Ryann almost once a minute was not professional, courteous or orderly. The VP must have had the orders from the President to be disruptive for Ryan, which is normal with his loud voice and snearing smile everytime Ryan attempted to talk.

    I believe Ryan is right that Biden didn't speak about their performance and just blamed everything on his inheritance from President Bush II. They would have had such a wonderful 4 years except for the budget and economy. He wanted to be able to spend us into delirium if he had the economy of Hillary's husband.

    Well, the one commentator I saw said it was the worst debate from a Vice President in 40 years and since the moderator was a good friend of the President, I guess there was no bias on her part. If Biden gets judged to have been second fiddle with Ryan, I guess their campaign will blame the moderator as they did with Lehrer last week.

    It was comforting to know that Biden believes everything he says. He mentioned that he really cares for people but his yearly donations are $300.

  • Liberal Ted Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 12, 2012 6:30 a.m.

    I thought it was interesting at the end when joe states that he is very Catholic and practicing for all of these years and believe in it's teachings. Which their faith states life begins at conception. Then biden explains that a woman and her doctor have the right to terminate that life for any reason. So from biden himself, he states that a woman and a doctor have the right to slaughter an unborn child for any reason (inlcuing "mistakes"). That's a kind caring bigger government taking care of the weak and those that can't protect themselves alright.

    I like that Congressman Ryan pointed out that if Catholics under this regime are able to practice their religion and to protect life from conception, then why is the church having to sue the Federal government to keep that right?

    I would have liked a response from biden on that.

    It just amazes me that democrats "love people" unless it is an unborn child then use taxpayer dollars to kill them off asap. But if a terroists takes American lives, then we did something wrong and can't bring them to justice.

  • JWB Kaysville, UT
    Oct. 12, 2012 10:42 a.m.

    This President doesn't move forward in anything and so to hope it halts a forward movement is probably very satisfying for him.

    His man, Joe Biden, was practicing just want the President does very well to us, speak down to us at whatever costs.

    Joe Biden didn't put forth anything original and with conviction. He just couldn't even speak when he was told he didn't speak about performance of the past 4-years of the President's administration.

    How could he? There is nothing positive. The VP even showed his religion colors last night. What a shame for his church. He didn't even do that well. His definitions of what he is practicing must be different than the people of conviction.

    I can't believe we potentially could have this person in front of our faces like last night for 4 more years and with the potential of being the President for a moment or other length of time.

    It was dismal last night. I bet the President was sweating worse than when he killed Bin Laden. Probably even more than as a pusher of abortion and in litigation with the Catholic Church for us.