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Utah Democrats sue for redistricting records

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  • Abe Sarvis Cedar City, UT
    Sept. 27, 2012 11:01 a.m.

    If "it took 55 employees a combined 506 hours to compile the records" then maybe we need to figure out why there are so many records, and why they were so difficult to compile. Why was the process subject to so much obfuscation? Shouldn't it be much clearer from the start?

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    Sept. 27, 2012 11:07 a.m.

    This is what happening in a ONE-Party politican system.

    Gerrymandering and Totalitarianism.

    viva la Utah-liban

  • Tolstoy salt lake, UT
    Sept. 27, 2012 11:51 a.m.

    "it took 55 employees a combined 506 hours to compile the records" apparently tis is Utah republicans Idea of a smaller government.

  • RedShirt USS Enterprise, UT
    Sept. 27, 2012 12:13 p.m.

    I think that this has gone beyond what the records may or may not contain. When the GOP offers to pay for the records, and they refuse the offer, that shows that they are out for blood.

  • Tolstoy salt lake, UT
    Sept. 27, 2012 2:47 p.m.

    @redshirt and VST

    did either of you ever stop to think that maybe access to public records without excessive cost goes beyond this one case where the GOP is willing to front the money to make it go away? Did you stop to ask yourself why the GOP is willing to pay for this after being threatened with lawsuits?

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    Sept. 27, 2012 4:08 p.m.

    Closed door Republican gerrymandering of the voting Districts...

    Chicago-style politics, with a Latter-Day Republican spin on it.

  • RedShirt USS Enterprise, UT
    Sept. 27, 2012 4:08 p.m.

    To "Tolstoy" I did consider why the GOP would pay after being threatened. They think that the records contain nothing incriminating.

    You need to think about what this means to the state if the Democrats succeed. You now open the door to anybody on a fishing trip looking to find dirt. Reporters, and political opponents will have an easier time getting large chunks of information without it costing them a dime. This will cost the state a lot of time and resources.

  • Tolstoy salt lake, UT
    Sept. 27, 2012 11:04 p.m.

    @redshirt
    think about what you just said, you are saying peoples access to public records should be discouraged because they may find wrong doing by our elected officials. does that really make sense.

    @vor
    where did I get the idea that the democrats where suing, from the article.

  • RedShirt USS Enterprise, UT
    Sept. 28, 2012 8:43 a.m.

    To "Tolstoy" you don't understand the problem. Think of it this way. Would you support a policy that made it so that any time a company sent you an advertisement you had to pay for the advertisement? All so that the businesses could go fishing to entice you to their stores?

    That is exactly what is going on here. If you give people unlimited access to government records, it will cost the government a lot of money to process the requests and do their jobs. Who is going to pay for that? Money doesn't grow on trees.

    Plus, I don't think that you have read the Utah law regarding obtaining records. Individuas (people) can get the information for free under certain conditions. So, if you suspect wrong doing, you can get those records for free.

  • Tolstoy salt lake, UT
    Sept. 28, 2012 11:10 a.m.

    @redshirt
    I understand perfectly well what is going on we are not talking about some private corporation trying to get access to private citizens information we are talking about restricting access to public documents that where generated by our public officials and people right to examine those documents. You are right money does not grow on trees and that is exactly why access to the records needs to be accessible to make sure our public officials are being honest with our money.

  • RedShirt USS Enterprise, UT
    Sept. 28, 2012 12:34 p.m.

    To "Tolstoy" the information is not restricted in any way. You can go and ask for the same records that the Democrats obtained, you can receive the records. The Democrats do not want to pay for the time required to collect the data. The records are accessable, the problem is the democrats don't want to play by the rules, they want something for free.