First ambassador killed in an attack since 1979
As I listened to what happened on the news yesterday in Egypt and today what
happened in Libya, I thought about how sometimes the freedom of speech can be a
two edged sword. Being a member of the Mormon church, it is hurtful to
know that there is a Broadway production that mocks and is even crude about my
religion, which I love and treasure. Watching the NBC special about the Mormons
and for them to show the actual garments was very offensive. To me that was as
painful to see the disrespect as watching our flag being torn apart in Egypt or
to see the skeleton of a burned out car that destroyed the lives of those in
Libya. It is hard to have something you love and that is sacred to you, be it
religion or country mocked or attacked, BUT... How blessed are we to have the
freedom of speech and how lucky we are that we are not killed for that. It is a
shame that people will use their freedom of speech in a way that is hurtful, it
caused the lives of fellow citizens.
Security?The Jewish people hate the Arabs.The Arab people hate the
Jewish people.This conflict has gone on since the beginning of time.No security of if any kind, anywhere, will change this.Neither America,
nor anyone else in the world will ever convince these people to make peace with
each other. Romney does not understand diplomacy. His political statements
are creating more trouble by speaking out when he does not have experience in
dealing with sensitive foreign policy. These troublesome situations must be
handled by tried and true negotiators to prevent WWIII.America is in
serious peril should Mitt Romney become president.
MoJules,"....It is hard to have something you love and that is
sacred to you, be it religion or country mocked or attacked, BUT... How blessed
are we to have the freedom of speech and how lucky we are that we are not killed
for that....."I second that. I think the greatest test of
commitment to freedom of speech is to defend that right even for those who use
it to say things that enrage or offend you.
WHAT NOW?Our embassy was attacked, and Americans were murdered. An
act of war. An attack on our country. Nothing to do with Arabs, and Jews
getting along.Obama will probably apologize for something, and was
slow to respond.Mitt showed leadership which has been lacking.
Don't let the media form your opinions.
First of all why are we talking at all about something Mitt Romney said in a
time of national tragedy? Why because in the "middle" and let me say
again the "middle" of a national emergency he politicized events without
having any..any..idea of what was taking place. Worf, if you think that is
leadership I believe you are sadly mistaken. And whoa to any nation in todays
world that experiences that kind of behavior from it's leaders.
Why don't you have a story about Romney's ignorant, base and craven
reaction to the deaths? Mitt showed more race/religion baiting in appealing to
the worst and most ignorant in people. When are Mormons going to realize your
Mormon moment is being lived by a guy who will use race, religion and ignore
facts to personally profit. All the things the church wants to hide
@sigmund5The Democrats never used the Iraq war for ignorant, base,
and craven attacks? Harry Reid used the Iraq War casualties to say the
'war is lost' and 'George W. Bush is a loser.'"...All the things the church wants to hide."Also
ignorant, base and craven.
The Muslims at war with the United States recognize strength or weakness. In
Obama, the correctly see a very weak leader, one inclined to dislike America to
start with and a disgusting lack of attention to security issues. Example-
Obama has only attended 42% of the Daily Presidential National Security briefing
since assuming office, and none in the last week.With Iran about to
get nuclear weapons (with little hindrance from us) Obama is going to do a TV
comedy show instead of meeting with the only real U.S. ally in the Middle East,
Israel.Killing ambassadors and burning embassies used to be
considered to be acts of war, deserving of a swift and powerful response, but
now we apologize for nonsense, and refuse to even call the enemy by their real
name, radical Islamists.The days of American greatness are truly
over, and may never return. That's what "hope and change"
delivered, even if most people did not realize what they were voting for.
Thank you DN for not posting a picture of Chris Stevens body being dragged by
his murderers. It was terrible to log into the foxnews site and see that as the
main picture on the site.And sigmund, your comment doesn't
deserve the dignity of an answer, this is about a man who was murdered
yesterday, show some respect for just a moment.
This is a sad story because it shows the effects of religious extremism both in
Libya and the United States. President Obama showed strength and resolve in how
he handled this matter. I think it's interesting that in the
article nothing was mentioned about how Mitt Romney responded. It interesting
that "Worf" says not to let the media influence our opinions when if we
just read this article, we'd never know the full story. I guess even the
Deseret News is embarrassed about how Gov. Romney responded to the situation.
The fact is in our world with its tensions and sensitivities we need
to think before we speak, we need to get all the information and not jump to
conclusions. I think in this particular situation it's Gov. Romney that
needs to apologize for his remarks.
Mitt's politcal reaction is a disgrace to Americans. He just lost a more
independents with his ill-timed, politcal statement. Can't wait for this
election to be over so we don't have to hear anymore from this man.
So the question is what are we going to do about it? When the USS Cole was
attacked in 2000 and we lost 17 Sailors, we didn't do a thing. That cannot
@A1994 So let me ask you what exactly should we do at this point? we
have no proof of who was involved shall we just start randomly n=bombing cities
and hop we take out at least a few of the bad guys along with the rest?
Sometimes a civil society must show restraint rather then blind vengeance.
One of those killed in the attacks was Sean Smith. He was an IT worker for the
State Department. But I knew him as "Vile Rat" in the world of Eve
Online. He was truly one of the kindest and most influential players in the
game, and the entire quarter-million member community is reeling from this.That being said, he believed in the good parts of humanity. Today a
group of Libyan protesters took to the streets carrying signs apologizing for
the deaths, and saying that thugs and murderers do not represent them. As angry
as I am, he would want us all to remember that we should not paint every Libyan
or Muslim with the same brush.
@worf President Obama's statement "We reject all efforts to
denigrate the religious beliefs of others, but there is absolutely no
justification for this type of senseless violence. None,"
Can you imaging the outrage that would have happened in this country had post
9/11, just hours of the event, someone like Kennedy had held a press conference
saying this was just another example of the Bush Administrations failed foreign
policy, to let something like this happen? Or can you imaging a
Bill Clinton, or a Jimmy Carter holding a press conference to say the bombing of
the Marine base in Lebanon that killed hundreds of Marines was an example of the
weakness of the Reagan presidency, that he had "failed" policy, it that
press conference happened even before the warmth had drained from those dead
soldiers bodies?Or image in the wake of the bombing of Pan Am flight
103 that killed over 240 people had been blamed on Reagin just hours after the
downing of that 747. We can only imaging those things because at
that time politicians were smart enough to not try to politicize those events
hours after they occurred. But as demonstrated by a few above, that level of
decorum is only a faint memory. Now, its a rush to make a political point for
ones self, not do what right for the country.
Tolstoy,Egypt's leaders could have stopped it. What can we do
about it?Quit giving the terrorist group called "the Muslim
Brotherhood", any more of our tax money.
As I reflect on this the hypocrisy of the people who did it is shocking. I know
a little about Arab customs and Islamic law.1) I assume the US is
providing aid to Libya, when Libyans were being murdered by the previous regime
we helped them protect themselves, we were there to help Libya not hurt.2) We were under their protection. If we are hurt under their
protection, by Arab tradition, the shame is on them in the generations to
come,3) The attack was on September 11. This is something like a
holy day for the US. 3000 people died on this day 11 years ago. Respect that
for us.4) The ambassador was killed did not make the movie. He was
an innocent third party.Mohammed did not want images made of himself
because he did not want people to worship him. The attacked have broken all
sorts of commandments to protect the image of Mohammed. They have in fact said
that protecting Mohammed's reputaton is more important than the
commandments of Allah (God). How is that not the same as worshipping Mohammed?
@worfObama:""I strongly condemn the outrageous attack
on our diplomatic facility in Benghazi, which took the lives of four Americans,
including Ambassador Chris Stevens.""Right now, the American
people have the families of those we lost in our thoughts and prayers. They
exemplified America's commitment to freedom, justice and partnership with
nations and people around the globe and stand in stark contrast to those who
callously took their lives.""While the United States rejects
efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others, we must all unequivocally
oppose the kind of senseless violence that took the lives of these public
Melanna,Just my opinion, but some of the resentment comes from the
bragging of Bin Ladens death during the DNC, and not just religion.