This whole case from start to finish still has me confused. First, there are 3
boys who transferred...why is there only mention of these two. Did the third
player do something differently than the other two?Second...why do
the boys need a hardship waiver since they are moving from another state? I
thought freshmen and anyone moving from another state did not need waivers and
could attend any school they wanted.Third...does the UHSAA's
and the 3rd District Court's decision prevent them from playing at Jordan
or does it prevent them from playing anywhere in Utah? If that is the
case...what alternatives do the boys have. If they wanted to salvage any hope
of playing football somewhere...where would that be?Finally...why is
this such a difficult transfer. I have read stories of players transferring for
athletic reasons and things went very smoothly. The Jordan QB going to Lone
Peak and the multiple players going from Kearns to Bingham all come to mind.
What makes this transfer so much different and so much more difficult. If it is
simply because of mistakes by adults...then the players should not be punished.
Absolutely Stupid if they moved here from Tim buck two does not matter they are
a citizen of the the town they live in they go to School there they should have
every right to play High School Sports does not matter if they are
senior,junior,sophmore,freshman let them play and have fun all of the private
schools are allowed to have all there move in students play sports as well as
they are allowed to go out and scout for there teams.....
BigBenzo88, you bring up some great points. I too would love someone to weigh
in. Personally I think they have a case and could win a major law suit. The
two things that may have effected this is the late filing of transfer papers and
the forged signature.
I will bet you that the next move for these boys is to have their mom's
stay and they will "move" into the boundaries with their parent to be
eligible. Either that or they will be heading home to California within a week.
Couple of issues. The entire family did not move. The 2 cousins moved here to
live with an Uncle claiming it was because of a bad neighborhood that they lived
in CA. But they 1, did not turn their paperwork in until Aug. 2, when they did
turn it in, the Uncle had forged the documents by signing the parents name. I
think that in itself is enough to disqualify them. I'm not familiar enough
with the Hansen kid's move from AF to LP. But with the kids from Kearns
going to Bingham, the parents actually moved their entire family from Kearns to
So. Jordan. Secondly, they turned their papers in, in a timely matter, and did
not forge the documents.
To all the adults in education: it's all about the kids, right? sure,
we believe you. NOT
@Gunner - your comment helps. So if an entire family moves, that trumps
everything. That makes sense because the Jordan junior QB publicly moved to
Lone Peak saying he would never play ahead of the Jordan sophomore QB. Then the
Kearns transfers to Bingham was because they did not like the offensive
coordinator. So these were both athletic reasons, but if the entire family
moves...then UHSAA can't deny their eligibility.I would like
the UHSAA to have some type of understanding in cases like this. I think in
situations like this, when senior players are involved, there should be
something like a 5 game suspension...so that the boys can at least play a
portion of their senior year. I'm OK with sitting out for a year if its a
freshman, sophomore or junior...but not for a senior.Even if the
adults in this situation did something wrong...their should be someone, even if
its an attorney, that should look out for the interests of the boys. In this
case....I can't say that UHSAA has the boys interest in mind...they are
only thinking about themselves and their own policies.
I don't think you can make exceptions just because a kid is a Sr. If they
would have followed the guidelines that are there for everybody, they probably
would have been able to play. But when you forge documents, it puts everything
else in question I think. These kids were 50 miles apart from each other, so
the hardship because of a bad neighborhood doesn't really hold up. If they
wanted to leave and play, they should have done it at the beginning of Summer
and got things in the works. I know Jordan thought they had a couple of great
kids coming in to be gravy on what's an already pretty tough team. I know
it's a hard thing with them being Sr.'s. But they should have looked
a little closer at what needed to be done. Again, I think if the documents
wouldn't have been forged, the UHSAA may have made a different decision.
Really people are you listening to yourselves. Kids who are supposedly good
football players transfer from California to Utah for football to get looks from
colleges. Are you kidding me??? Really??? Utah is not a mecca of college
recruiting. California is one state that is. There are many more colleges that
could have offered for these kids if they stayed in Cali if they are that good.
And if it was about teams here in Utah where you will get looks, go to Bingham,
Alta or Cottonwood. Also one of the boys was a National Junior
volleyball team member when he lived in California. Utah doesn't even have
a boys volleyball team, high school or club. Hope he tries out for a girls
volleyball team and see what the UHSAA does...lol
i also know about that case and was told that the Judge couldn't care about
any allegations of criminal activity and said the kids came here in good faith
to be in a better place. He also said UHSAA could be sued as a "state
actor" for violating constitutional rights of these kids. Woo hoo about
time a judge is holding them accountable and not allowing them to hide behind
their sorry excuses that they were private and can't be touched.
Proud To Be An American, would you really want to stay here in a State that has
treated you like that. Oh wait, this is Utah.
I think they should deny full family moves for athletic reasons. If the
student-athlete or his family doesn't have proof that it wasn't for
athletic reasons then bam...DENIED!
if these kids don't go to college it will be disgusting. I don't know
why we continue to allow an organization to dictate how sports are run in public
schools and make life long decisions that will affect these kids and their
future families forever without any member on the board representing the kids.
This whole organization is set up for the schools rights without thinking about
the kids. This organization even tells kids what church activities they can and
can't do. It really comes down to who cares about paper work the kids are
registered at school and attending there and they should be allowed to
participate in all school activities at that school like any other student.