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BYU football breaks into AP Top 25; Arkansas takes big fall

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  • Just Wondering... Gilbert, AZ
    Sept. 9, 2012 12:47 p.m.

    ...does beating an unranked Utah team help or hurt your ranking?

  • SoCalTrueBlue San Diego, CA
    Sept. 9, 2012 12:57 p.m.

    I hope the AP ranking doesn't go to the heads of the BYU players, like it already has to the heads of some of BYU's fans. BYU hasn't played anybody good yet. Washington State barely squeaked past Eastern Washington yesterday. BYU hasn't been able to run the ball up the middle against two weak teams, and they won't be able to do so against Utah. Utah will have something to prove coming off the loss the Utah St. and will bring their A game. If the BYU players go into this game overconfident, they will come away humbled once again. BYU players, please ignore the new AP ranking and just remember last year's score and play like you have something to prove.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Sept. 9, 2012 1:11 p.m.

    Just Wondering...

    ...does beating an unranked Utah team help or hurt your ranking?

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    Just wondering, when did you beat Utah?

    Oh, yes 2009.

  • 3grandslams Iowa City, IA
    Sept. 9, 2012 1:13 p.m.

    Very nice for the Cougs but I don't put too much stock in polls until after the 5th or 6th game. However, road wins at Utah then Boise St. after a 5 day turn around...top 15 for the Cougs.

  • Tom in CA Vallejo, CA
    Sept. 9, 2012 2:18 p.m.

    Be careful what you say about the BCS utah utes - they're getting real sensitive. And to make things worse, their new arch rival Colorado got beat by Sac State. If you get my drift.

  • 4D Draper, UT
    Sept. 9, 2012 3:24 p.m.

    According to BYU fans the Pac-12, with five top 25 teams, is the worse conference in the country. The irony behind this mentality is comical. Bottom dwellers of the Pac-12 just beat last years Big 12 and Big 10 champions. Also, UCLA beat ranked Nebraska. Colorado and Washington State are pretty bad; with that said, pounding your chest after beating a Washington State team that barely beat Eastern Washington is pathetic.

  • Hawkyo SYRACUSE, UT
    Sept. 9, 2012 3:29 p.m.

    I just want every byu player to remember last year, and give the Utes everything you have. Leave it all on the field. Make them remember this year!

  • BigCougar Bountiful, UT
    Sept. 9, 2012 4:24 p.m.

    @4D
    "Bottom dwellers of the pac 12 just beat last years Big 10 & Big 12 champs"

    I thought the utes just got WAC'd by a team from the WAC conference?

  • Tom in CA Vallejo, CA
    Sept. 9, 2012 4:59 p.m.

    4D - you had credibility until your "list" of "bad teams" didn't include utah. Any conference of champions team that gets beat by a WAC team would qualify as "bad", don't you think? And you do remember the Colorado/Utah game of last year, don't you?

  • Duckhunted highland, utah
    Sept. 9, 2012 5:04 p.m.

    keep it up cougar fans...i do believe you might run into a big mad buzz saw ur next game....keep laughing for now!!

  • NevadaCoug Overton, NV
    Sept. 9, 2012 5:22 p.m.

    This means absolutely nothing. Yet.

    Ignore the rankings. Just win the next game. We'll worry about the rest afterwards.

  • Y Grad / Y Dad Richland, WA
    Sept. 9, 2012 5:39 p.m.

    4D

    Someone is really unhappy about last Friday night.

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    Sept. 9, 2012 5:41 p.m.

    Personally these early rankings mean very little.

    But on the other hand I truly enjoy seeing Ute fans go into a foaming at the mouth, 'bitter and jealous' rage every time BYU is mentioned in a poll that the Utes are not.

  • Rodgers Sandy, UT
    Sept. 9, 2012 5:41 p.m.

    Polls are a joke

  • dumprake Washington, UT
    Sept. 9, 2012 5:46 p.m.

    I seriously doubt BYU has anything going to their heads. On the other hand, Utah has some issues too, not to mention at QB, and their defense is not as stout as they pretended. BYU vs Utah is nearly always a tough, close game. BYU has not yet played it's best, they will on Saturday. Look for BYU to extract revenge in a close win.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Sept. 9, 2012 6:13 p.m.

    BigCougar

    I thought the utes just got WAC'd by a team from the WAC conference?

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    Cougars aren't the only team that beats themselves. The difference is we didn't get beat by 6 touchdowns.

    If Utah doesn't come out with a "chip on their shoulders" after that embarrassing game @USU then this Ute team will be lucky to win 6 games because UCLA and Arizona look good so far.

    Is BYU a top 25 team? I guess but we'll find if they deserve to stay a top 25 team on Saturday.

    Go UTES!!

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    Sept. 9, 2012 6:24 p.m.

    I agree with Bronco - there should be no rankings until Week 5.

    BYU has proven nothing with wins against Weber State and Washington State. We'll know a lot more about BYU over the next 11 days. All along I've said that Utah, Boise, ND and GT would determine our season, and I'm sticking by that assertion; although I may have to add Oregon St to the discussion.

    I'm really looking forward to the rivalry game this Saturday. It should be a good one. I feel bad for Wynn, but Hays clearly played better than Wynn against USU. Has anyone heard if Wynn will be back on Saturday? I'm hoping Apo and Dulan will be back, and I'm hoping Riley's back is okay. Go Cougs!

  • Utah Soldier Bountiful, UT
    Sept. 9, 2012 7:11 p.m.

    It may be easy to knock Eastern Washington, but they were the 2010 NCAA Football Champions for the FCS.

  • u mad bro? WVC, UT
    Sept. 9, 2012 7:22 p.m.

    uteology,

    Wow, you must really enjoy our company to keep posting comments on BYU articles. Or maybe you're secretly a BYU fan who is just fishing for compliments.

  • Ironmomo Ogden, Utah
    Sept. 9, 2012 7:33 p.m.

    The college football gods truly are just. John L Smith's Arkansas team, with their loss at home to Louisiana-Monroe and subsequent drop in the polls from 8th in the nation to outer darkness has got to put a big smile on many Weber State fans faces.

    Karma, got to love the Karma.

  • Black Shirts South Jordan, UT
    Sept. 9, 2012 7:36 p.m.

    I need to give the PAC12 some credit. I thought UA, ASU, UCLA, Colorado, and Wash St all were terrible. However, it turns out UA, UCLA, and OST are a lot better this year. Colorado and Wash St are terrible still.

  • JonnyDanger HOUSTON, TX
    Sept. 9, 2012 7:43 p.m.

    To 4D: The bottom dwellers of the PAC lost to WAC and FCS teams this weekend.....

    My worst fear is that now Utah will show up on Saturday with a chip on their shoulder looking for revenge while BYU will show up thinking they are all that being ranked. I hope Bronco plays the tape from last year in the locker room on repeat all week!

    We still haven't seen this BYU team play up to their potential-if they do then they can beat anybody on their schedule. And with Oregon State and Utah State looking better than expected, beating everybody on this schedule would turn enough heads to make this a special season. But none of that matters if we can't take care of business on Saturday!

  • BlueCoug Orem, UT
    Sept. 9, 2012 8:14 p.m.

    It's way too early in the season to be worried about rankings - just take of business on the field and the rankings will take care of themselves.

    Looking forward to a hard fought game that could go either way this Saturday.

    We'll be there, just like we usually are. We can always count on some particularly boorish fans when we visit RES, but hopefully most Utah fans will try to stay classy even if things on the field don't go the way of the Utes.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Sept. 9, 2012 9:02 p.m.

    Actually rankings do mean something this early although they don't necessarily mean a team has proven itself to be a good one yet. What is important about being ranked this early is that as long as a team keeps winning they usually keep climbing to a higher ranking. That is important because for a team like BYU to have a chance to be in a bcs bowl they need to be in the top 10 in my opinion. Let's not forget that with indepedence BYU gave up the promise of an automatic invite as long as they were top 12 or whatever the requirement is for non bcs teams in a non bcs conference. BYU's only guaranty for bcs inclusion is if they are in the top 2, highly unlikely even if they are undefeated. But if they are a top 10 team I doubt they are not invited, especially since they will travel very well.

    But it is also important to have an early season ranking for everyone, the later you enter the rankings the harder it is to rise high in them. The earlier you get ranked the higher you can climb.

  • phoenix Gilbert, AZ
    Sept. 9, 2012 9:05 p.m.

    It's nice to be recognized, but as BlueCoug said, it's way too early to be worried about rankings. BYU's only focus should be on Utah. It's obvious from last season, that despite their claims to the contrary, beating BYU is still the most important item on every Utah team's wish list.

    The Utes expect to lose to USC, so playing well against the Trojans and losing is really nothing more than a mild disappointment.

    But, losing to BYU generates "humiliations galore"!

    The Utes always spend every available ounce of energy - physical, mental, and emotional - to beat BYU, which has worked well in the recent past, because BYU was usually their last regular season game.

    Unfortunately, that's no longer the case.

    The Utes left last season's BYU game completely drained, and it showed in the way they finished the season, losing three of their next four games, and then, just as they'd worked themselves out of that funk, getting clobbered at home in the season finale by one of the worst teams in the country.

    The Cougars will have to match the wounded Utes' emotion in order to beat Utah.

  • SportzFan Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 9, 2012 9:07 p.m.

    Uteology
    East Salt Lake City, Utah

    Go UTES!!

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    Wow. Not just Salt Lake City, but EAST Salt Lake City. Getting your self-image from your address, your conference... Begs the question: who's your daddy?

  • AZRods Maricopa, AZ
    Sept. 9, 2012 9:12 p.m.

    Poor Arkansas. Hence the reason to stay humble Cougar fans.
    One week you look and feel like King Cong, then just one shakey game and you smell like Chetah.

    For Utah, if you're going to lose your QB, do it early in the season so you can develop the 2nd QB and salvage the season.
    Guess we'll see if Kyle and company learned anything from last year.

    Utah always gets up and goes crazy when it plays BYU so I'd be surprised if they don't take out some frustration on the Cougars.

  • Hellooo Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 9, 2012 9:21 p.m.

    So which team BYU or Utah has the worse offensive line? The U has shown from last year, they have the ability through quality coaching to improve their offensive line play and become quite good. But, the Y's offensive line play is below par year after year and this year even with a less stellar U defense that will be trouble for Mr. Riley and may mean a W for the U on their home field. Both teams played relatively poorly this last weekend. How does the game at Weber State translated into being ranked? This just shows how fickle polls really are.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Sept. 9, 2012 9:44 p.m.

    @hellooo

    "How does the game at Weber State translated into being ranked?"

    It translates because they actually won. That is what you have to do, actually win. BYU started out the season close to the rankings because they finished last year actually being ranked. utah "fans" claimed it was inconsequential to finish ranked but because of that BYU was very close to start the season. They then beat wsu decisively on national tv on a Friday night when they were the only game on. That is another advantage utah "fans" continue to claim is somehow a negative. Obviously for BYU it was a big positive because it vaulted them up to just outside the rankings. After BYU took care of business against Weber, and several top 25 teams lost, they were right there and jumped into the rankings. The voters still had BYU's Friday night national tv beatdown of a pac12 team fresh on their minds.

    That is how it "translated".

  • RedBlood Bountiful, UT
    Sept. 9, 2012 9:46 p.m.

    Congrats to the Cougs on their ranking. They have looked good thus far in the season. Funny how a simple ranking can arouse so much excitement. Utah got beat by a good Utah State team, just as the Cougs did in the not so distant past. No doubt it stung and will hopefully motivate the Utes on Saturday. Watch out for Kruger(s) and the rest of the defense. Should be a good game and, as always, will settle all the smack talk and over inflated egos. Let's settle it on the field folks and stop disrespecting one another's teams. As a state, Utah is sporting some progressively better teams. It is fun to watch.

    Go Utes!

  • Veritas Bountiful, Utah
    Sept. 10, 2012 6:02 a.m.

    USU did Utah a favor by knocking out Wynn who was absolutely pathetic, along with the rest of the Utah offense. If Hays can move the Utes this week, however, BYU will be in trouble as the Ute defense will probably control the line of scrimmage and Nelson will have to resort to corner passes to Hoffman and Apo. Even though the Utes' special teams were terrible in Logan, the Utes have a generally better kicking/punting game than BYU. This should be a close game.

  • Meadow Lark Mark IDAHO FALLS, ID
    Sept. 10, 2012 7:23 a.m.

    BYU has nothing to brag about. The only way that BYU will get any respect is to win games. I hope BYU beats Utah, but I don't know. The Utah game is always a tough game to win. Best wishes to BYU.

  • TJ Eagle Mountain, UT
    Sept. 10, 2012 8:23 a.m.

    Utah should be grateful to USU and BYU for improving their Strength of Schedule. Hopefully the will return the favor once they get into their pac schedule.

  • idablu Idaho Falls, ID
    Sept. 10, 2012 8:46 a.m.

    Ranking means nothing if we don't beat Utah. I hope we get the same officiating crew as reffed the Utah--USU game. They didn't seem to like Utah much.

  • Go Big Blue!!! Bountiful, UT
    Sept. 10, 2012 9:08 a.m.

    Hope the Utes are done licking their wounds and that they are mad enough to take out their frustrations on the cougs. Time to remind the y fans about last year. Go Utes!!!

  • HCB63 Orem, UT
    Sept. 10, 2012 9:47 a.m.

    BYU in the Top 25 after wins over a rebuilding WSU, and D-II's Weber State? This ranking should have been withheld until a win came over a GOOD opponent. This is like the teams in the Top 5 beating up D-III schools [in their early schedules] and still staying in the Top 5...in other words, pathetic and undeserving.

  • skywalker Palo Alto, CA
    Sept. 10, 2012 11:01 a.m.

    HCB63

    Not having a win over a "good" opponent, is simply another way of saying, "untested". At this point in the season, it's really difficult to tell the pretenders from the contenders.

    How do you know for sure that Washington State isn't, or won't be, a good team?

    One thing we do know is that Utah State is either much better than the Utes were giving them credit for being, or the Utes aren't nearly as good as the kids on the hill were claiming.

    Judging from this past weekend's games, the Utes are looking at the very real possibility of starting the season 1-5. It's unlikely that Utah will be favored in any of their next four games.

  • mussingaround Palo Alto, CA
    Sept. 10, 2012 11:07 a.m.

    4D

    "According to BYU fans the Pac-12, with five top 25 teams, is the worse conference in the country."

    Gotta love how Utah fans just make stuff up to sooth their wounded egos - cite ONE single BYU fan who has said that the PAC 12 is the WORST conference in the country.

    That said, however, the PAC 10 did pretty well this past weekend. It was the PAC 10.2 that struggled.

  • Wildcat O-town, UT
    Sept. 10, 2012 11:09 a.m.

    @Ironmomo

    Yes, it was so refreshing to see Arkansas lose. So deserving for a guy that bailed out during Spring Ball. Would have had probably four solid years at Weber State no matter what, now will have to look for a Special Teams coaching position.

    @Duckhunter

    You are correct about the rankings...winning is proving the point. There are plenty of talented teams for BYU to be judged on down the road. They do look good defensively. The U of U game will be big. I expect a very close game. I am glad that Weber State is so well respected that it launched BYU into the Top 25! Seriously, though many teams have played at least one FCS team in the first week, so they shouldn't be punished. I particularly hope that running up scores aren't taken into consideration against FCS schools.

    I totally respect Alabama for beating Western Kentucky 35-0--classy and sportsmanlike...not trying to hit triple digits like Florida under Spurrier. I thought BYU was sportsmanlike last week, too.

    Should be a good game at the Hill. I think U of U bounces back and wins by a touchdown.

  • Cowboy Dude SAINT GEORGE, UT
    Sept. 10, 2012 11:13 a.m.

    This is good news. Nice to be respected.

    This is good news for Utah too. A win will bounce them back to the spot light.

    The strength of schedule of Utah just got higher with three more top 25 teams.

    A win for BYU will be fantastic if Utah beats AZ or UCLA.

  • BlueCoug Orem, UT
    Sept. 10, 2012 12:04 p.m.

    Just announced:

    Jordan Wynn's football career is over at Utah.

    Good luck to Jordan on your future endeavors!

  • LoveMySports Syracuse, UT
    Sept. 10, 2012 1:03 p.m.

    Those of you who say that BYU beating Washington State and Weber State means nothing are correct. Them beating a crappy Utah team won't mean anything either. Utah losing to Utah State does say a lot, however.

  • altahoops Provo, UT
    Sept. 10, 2012 2:22 p.m.

    My biggest concern is Riley Nelson's health. He took a big hit against WSU on a roughing the passer penalty and was way slow in getting up. Then there was some talk about strained back and resting him the second half. The fact that we heard anything about a strained back worries me a little because with tough guys, you usually don't hear anything, even if they are almost the walking dead. If Nelson is hurting, I hope he doesn't try to be the hero and lets a healthy QB play.