I'm not a hyper partisan, but I thought some of the calls were dubious, and
it seemed WSU was on the aggressive side. A late out of bounds hit was ignored
while a nothing, after the whistle waving of arms by a BYU player was flagged.
But then, I've never cared for PAC 10/12 officiating. BYU should bring in
officials from other conferences.
I agree Bronco, I sat scratching my head on those personal foul penalties too.
Sampson just knocks a guy's hand away from him in the pile and that's
called a PF? That happens 500 times a game. I watched a bunch of games this
weekend and I saw way more aggressive shots and celebrating that would rival the
NFL, but no personal fouls/unsportsmanlike penalties called. But oh well, it was
Pac 12 refs, so what do you expect. It was nice to get the make-up holding call
on that touchdown catch though, so I guess it all washed out.
Cougs looked good in most phases of the game, but WSU is not a Top 50 team, this
year. Hopefully, we can fine tune our game plan against Weber State and be
ready for Utah and Boise State. Utah's defense is solid.
Utah's offense still has some question marks. Hopefully we can get a
lopsided win this year.Boise State looked better than I expected
after losing so many players. A few different bounces of the ball and they
could have / should have gotten the W against Michigan State.I see
our four most difficult games being (listed in order of difficulty):Notre
DameBoise StateUtahGeorgia TechNeither Georgia
Tech nor Virginia Tech looked very good on offense last night.
PAC 12 officiating at its best (as usual). Unfortunately it will be even worse
in a close game.
Hmm. No mention of the O-line? The O-line needs the most work of any position
group on the team. They got dominated in the 2nd half of the Wazzou game, and
WSU doesnt even have a great defense. Tushaus, in particular, got owned by their
NT. If that is how they look against Wazzou, imagine how they will look against
Utah with All-American Star Lotuleilei and company! They better make some
adjustments and step up their game in the next week and a half.
Yeah I would agree the biggest area of concern is run blocking by the O-line.
The backs ran hard and still were relatively productive but the run game will be
vastly better if the line blocks better.
I am amazed at how each and every comment to this story rationalizes the
penalties and essentially just blames the officiating on the fact that they were
PAC-12 officials. It is exactly this type of attitude that will, mark my word,
end up costing BYU a game or two this year. Sure I am a bit biased (see my
screen name), however I do believe BYU players have developed a bit of a
reputation for personal fouls and late hits. Really? You think it's just
a cooincedence that there were 10 penalties for 110+ yards? You really think
that's just bad officiating? Sheesh...people come on. Where there is
smoke there is fire and Bronco's laissez faire attitude about it shows a
real lack of discipline and control of his team. Reminds me of Pat Hill and
Fresno State's past teams and, as I mentioned, will end up costing BYU a
couple of games.Don't rationalize these things folks. Bronco
better grow a backbone and have a chat with his boys about their personal fouls.
I'm all about seeing the glass half full but let's not ignore the
Just remember that PAC 12 officials are used at every game a PAC 12 team plays,
according to the contracts they sign. They insist they have their "own
officials" and it's easy to see why. Apparently it isn't against
their ethics to openly shake hands with the PAC 12 coaxhes during the game,
either. I wonder if a school refused to use them who'd blink first.....The PAC 12 officials enjoy a reputation that they not only have earned
during the past seasons, but one in which they continue to persue. Anyone who
watched the USC-Hawaii game witnessed PAC 12 officiateing at it's
finest---so it isn't just a thing about BYU---they treat everyone that way.
Maybe that's why they think they're the Conference of
Champions....they own the officials.
@RedBloodI have no problem with the officiating, except that they
weren't consistent. If Spencer Hadley is going to get an unsportsmanlike
conduct penalty for pumping his fist and getting the crowd juiced after a big
TFL, then call the same thing on the WSU NT after he blew up Mike Alisa in the
backfield in the second half and was pumping his fist and taunting the crowd.If Joe Sampson is going to get a personal foul call for shoving off the
hand of a WSU player who was grabbing him after the play was over, then call the
same thing on the WSU receiver who grabbed our guy's facemask and was
shoving him out of bounds after the play was over (during the PI call on Daniel
Sorensen).The delay of game call on Friel was one of the worst calls
I've ever seen. The PI no call on JD Falslev in the end zone was a
horrible missed call. But it all evens out in the end. The Blue
Cougs won and sent the PAC 12 Cougs and their refs home.On to Weber
Re: Redblood, I respect your opinion and you make valid points, but if you
watched the game I think you would feel otherwise. Even the ESPN announcers
were like "Uhhhh.....I guess there was a PF there?" when the replay was
shown. I'm not one to blame officials for poor play, but three out of the
four PF/unsportsmanlike calls were very questionable, "illegal headbutt"
when two guys were battling and blocking each other? Kind of strange. Like I
said, it all washed in the end becasue they called the holding on the touchdown
pass before the end of the half. It was a great win by the Cougs,
but we will really know how good they are when they play in RES next week. Lots
of work to be done until then.
@truecoug1So, just for clarification, you agree with Bronco's
approach? You don't think there is a problem that needs addressing?
@redbloodI don't think "there is a problem that needs
addressing". Why don't we see how the calls go in this weeks game
before calling one game "a problem that needs addressing". And by the way, pac 12 officials definately have a reputation for this sort of
thing, it has occured over and over again and it has been commented on by fans
and announcers alike. My question is this, why does the pac 12 insist that any
game any of its teams are involved in must be officiated by pac 12 refs? Why is
that? No one else does that, no one. Food for thought.
@RedbloodI am not contending that BYU has some problems that need to
be addressed, however, PAC 10/12 officials have a history/habit of making
questionable calls against non-conference teams, and in many instances, game
changing calls. Just ask Oklahoma (September 2006) -- terrible officiating!
how about a starting QB?
Utah USED to complain about PAC whatever officiating every time they played.Riley discussed the right attitude in a story today, and I think they
played that way during the game. But afterward, when you look at film and try
to teach and correct, if you can't see what the player did wrong, it's
pretty hard to address.
@RedbloodYou can tame a wild horse, but you can't make a tame horse
I know this is nit picking since we totally shut down their run game but I
thought our pass rush was pretty weak as well. There were times where they had
all kinds of time and we couldn't get to the QB. It seemed to get better
as game went on but something to think about against a better team.I
also don't understand why Apo is not getting more plays run for him. Every
pass to Apo seems like it's either low or behind him so he has to go down
to get it. Why not put it up there and let him use his athleticism. Somehow he
just has not been able to get in the flow of the games and it's too bad
given his physical talent.
@RedBlood "You don't think there is a problem that needs
addressing?"Nope, I don't. Why don't you do me a
favor, RedBlood...re-watch the game and U tell me if there's a
'problem that needs addressing'? You'll probably find, like I
did, that the personal foul calls on BYU were in retaliation to WSU players
trying to start something. Our boys were being aggressive and they weren't
going to back down from those PAC 12 punks.Now, if they had gotten
personal foul calls for throwing punches randomly, or head-hunting, then I think
it's a problem.However, everything I saw was very mild (on the
border of ticky-tack) and I didn't see anything to concern me.Go Cougars!
Here is how you address the penalties....You coach your players to
play like they have been there before. Make a great tackle for loss, hop up and
get back to the huddle. If the play was as great as it was, you won't have
to ask for special acknowledgment from the crowd, and in doing so, you take away
the subjective judgement of a ref and you allow the play to have the desired
effect, instead of a fifteen yard difference.