The mormon church was opposed to gambling long before utah statehood. The church
I'm forming, however, is fine with it. In fact, it's going to be
pretty much mandatory. So, are we good to go with our chapel/casino or is my
version of christianity under attack in america today?
Re: Hutterite American Fork, UTThe majority of Utahns don't
want gambling in our state. Unlike Nevada we don't allow tolerate brothels
either. For those with no moral compass I can see why they must find Utah to be
a pretty dull place. If I were in their shoes I'd move to a state where
I'd fit in.
I am proud to live in a state that is "peculiar" from most all other
states in the union in regards to the subject of gambling.It is
interesting to hear stories from friends and coworkers who gamble and how they
have gone to casinos or purchase lottery tickets and to hear the justifications
they use and about all the money they lost. I respect there freedom to choose
yet I have to shake my head to know that money could have been used for higher,
better and nobler purposes.
I have personally witnessed gambling tear a family apart. The man bet - and
lost - so much family money that his wife was obliged to start a separate and
inaccessible (to him) checking account. It was having serious repercussions on
the family finances. I have also seen in Atlantic City the blight that happens
within a stone's throw of the the boardwalk. It is fleeting
entertainment and comes at a huge cost. It may be *fun*, but it is also
Rifleman,Have you personally polled a majority of Utahns? Have you
been ordained to speak for a majority of Utahns?Are you saying that
your "morals" trump everybody else's morals? Are you familiar with
bingo night at Catholic churches? Are these believers immoral because they do
not believe as you?Utah is a state in the United States. Deal with
it in that freedom is a double edged sword. Anyone has a right to move here.These anecdotal one off stories about gambling problems are sad. However
these will occur whether gambling is illegal or legal. Just like alcoholics,
silly prohibitions mean nothing. These laws do nothing to protect an addict.
They are window dressing feel-good laws.
These may be one-time anecdotal instances, but in this case, they are
all-to-indicative of reality for a significant slice of those who get hooked on
gambling. Is it worth the risk?And, as I understand it, prohibition
of alcohol actually WAS effective in controling alcohol and it's related
problems. *Silly prohibitions?* People just like to make fun of it. I disagree. I feel they would serve us well. We acually have
prohibitions/laws in place for illegal drugs. There's really just not much
difference. Alcohol is similar to illegal drugs in that it can be addictive and
it is unhealthy for the body. That is not anecdotal. Cirrhosis of the liver is
just one result. Deaths from drunk driving is another. Ruined lives and
families can be a result as well.The fact that casinos make healhy
profits proves what should be logical to all. Gambling is a business in which
the owners win and the customers lose. The odds are always in the house's
favor. Vegas was not built on winners. It may be a little entertaining for the
moment, but the risk is just too high and the rewards are fleeting.
very concerned,Every example you proffer is extreme. Addiction,
cirrhosis, prohibition, hooked, deaths, and ruined family lives. These are
things that will happen whether or not there are laws. There has and always will
be gambling, alcohol and drugs legal and illegal.Good laws are not
passed based on anecdotes. They should reflect thought, research and
effectiveness. It is obvious that many of our laws fail this necessary test.You are the first person I've run across that says that prohibition
was successful. I suggest that you read a history book. We are experiencing the
same thing because drugs are illegal. The violence, underworld, underground
(untaxed) economy...Gambling can be and is fun for a vast majority
of gamblers. Most have no negative affects. To lump them in with problem
gamblers is irresponsible. We can't protect everyone from every
perceived evil. Freedom involves risk and to remove risk is to remove freedom.
Either you support freedom or you do not.
Re: dave Park City, UT"Have you personally polled a majority of
Utahns?"The only polls that count are the ones taken on the
first Tuesday in November in years that we vote for the political candidates we
want to represent us. When it comes to gambling and brothels I'll let you
decide when the morals of the majority trump those who favor those kind of
This article is on gambling. But to rebut the comments that claimed prohibition
was basically a joke, please see an example of an opposing view. The editorial,
*The US prohibition experiment: myth, history, and implications*, (with
references), in the journal, Addiction, Volume 92, Issue 11, Article first
published online: 24 JAN 2006. It does not settle once and for all whether
prohibition was effective in it's goals, but it does give one pause to
ponder an opposing view to the perhsps-biased hisory we all learned in school.
Never mind checking medical textbooks about the dangers of drinking.As far as gambling, a quick search of Google Scholar will give a lot of
information from reputable academic journals on the social effects of gambling.
The myth that we can't - or shouldn't - effectively limit
personal habits that are damaging to society is not bourne out. When we get a
head of steam (as a society) and want to stop certain behavior deemed damaging,
we can - and have - make great progress. Consider smoking, slavery, & drunk
driving among others.
There is a host of do- gooders... ready to solve all human problems withlegislation, willing to impose their version of the millennium on you and
me,unwilling to rely on the judgment of the individual. (The Teachings of
Ezra TaftBenson, p. 628)The greatest right humans possess is
the right of free choice, free will, freeagency. This above all is what
today's true conservative strives to preserve for hisfellowmen and
for himself. Ironically, it is this very objective that has helped togive
credence to the myths. Because the conservative fervently believes in humanfreedom, he is slow to tell everybody else how to run their lives. It goes
againstthe conservative grain to be a political, social, or economic
busybody, andespecially to beat the drums for government action on
virtually every existingproblem. (Ezra Taft Benson - The Red Carpet, p.