I can't wait for SUU's season. 6-5 for the third straight year is ok.
But I think we can get one more win then that. Hopefully starting next week in
The article oozes with pro BYU bias. But then again, this is the Deseret News
so I can't say I'm surprised. Looking forward to the Aggies beating
BYU on conference weekend. But first, I'm excited to see them take care of
business and steamroll SUU on Thursday. SUU will hang for a little bit, but I
just don't think they have an upset in them. One quarterback does not a
football team make, especially when the other team has the best two QBs in the
state. 35-13, USU. I.S.
I am a huge Ute fab but all these 10-2 predictions are jumping the gun. Gordon
Monson had Utah at 11-1. Really? Look, it could happen, and I hope it does.
Still i won't predict that.Most the optimisic picks still have
Utah losing to USC. I get that, but I think it's more likely to beat USC
than go 5-0 on the road in the PAC 12. Although Utah avoids Oregon and Stanford
this year, and has USC at home, they still have 4 home conference games and 5
road ones. If USC is goig to be a loss, then it would be better if that game
were on the road. If you wipe that one away with a loss, then Utah has 3 home
games vs. 5 road games (in conference).I have high hopes for this
years Utes, including beating USC, but a 10-2 prediction is a bold one. I just
hope Utah can get past USU and BYU in weeks 2 and 3. I would say take it one
game at a time, but I already penciled in a win against Northern Colorado.
Sorry, Randy, but Utah State, Fresno State and BYU are not "BCS"
schools, they are FBS schools. Some accuracy and objectivity would do wonders
for your credibility. 9-3 is not "the worst" BYU could finish with that
schedule. Or perhaps you don't remember games last year such as 2-10
Mississippi, 5-7 UCF, 7-5 Utah State and 8-5 Tulsa. They could have started the
season anywhere between 4-1 and 0-5. Usually that scenario equals out like USU,
who had 10 games that could have gone either way that they went 5-5 in, but in
BYU's case, they were lucky to be 4-1 in those close games.
Considering Weber State playing two FBS teams and a pretty tough FCS for
non-conference, I think 6-5 with a new coaching staff would be pretty good.
They need to only schedule on FBS team for money, one D-II team for basically a
scrimmage win, and then two FCS teams for non-conference once FCS starts playing
12 games. I think Randy's predictions are a little generous
across the board, but we'll see. Can't wait to start the season
because the Cubs suck something awful this year. Cheers!
I think you are being too generous for Utah and BYU.Utah will be
underdogs in at least 2 games (USC, and @Washington). The rest of their Pac-12
games are winnable, but they are all losable too. ASU probably won't be
very good, but they have a tough place to play. @UCLA right after the USC game
could be difficult. Home at Cal will be a test. I would be happy with a 9-3
season.BYU, road games of Utah, Boise State, Georgia Tech and Notre
Dame. Really they could lose all 4. Don't sleep on home games vs
Washington State or Utah State.BYU probably will go 8-4. Possibly even
Worst case for Utah is 8-4. The toughest games of the season in order are: USC,
@Washington, @Utah State, California, @ASU. They can go 2-3 against those
teams. Barring any major injuries I do think 10-2 is achievable if they beat
the teams they should USU, Cal, and ASU.Worst case for BYU is not
9-3, more like 7-5. The same offense went 2-2 vs BCS teams last year and
Riley's QB rating is 110 or below against non-WAC defenses. Their running
game was even worse against such defenses. They can easily go 2-4 with games
@Utah, @GTech, @Boise, @ND, Washington State, and Utah State.
Aggie238,You are really laying this on thick aren't you. This
is why I hate the aggies. They can't underestimate anyone yet that's
all they are doing for Saterday. I truely hope Coach Lamb and Brad Sorenson and
the team as a whole punch the ball down the aggies throats Saterday. I'm
tired of all the loud mouths.
RE: Uteology"Riley's QB rating is 110 or below against
non-WAC defenses." Not true. Nelson averages 131.5 against
PAC12 teams (103 against Utah, 160 against Oregon State). Coincidentally,
Riley's 132 is better than the 126 Jordan Wynn averaged last year against
PAC12 teams (100 agaiinst USC, 152 against Washington). True that neither of
these QBs had particularly amazing stats last season, but let's not make
things up. " They can easily go 2-4 with games @Utah, @GTech,
@Boise, @ND, Washington State, and Utah State."They can also
easily go 5-1. A lot will be answered this weekend as BYU and Utah both open
with easy games, can't wait to see how they do. Only four more days, 1
hour, 17 minutes, ten seconds, nine, eight...
Sorry Uteology, but the same offense didn't go against those schools, Riley
wasn't the quarterback, and Alisa didn't really get a chance till
after most those games and he's fat better than what BYU had last year. Now
that Riley is actually the quarterback and taking all the snaps the off season
etc. he'll be a lot better than last year, with better running game a more
experienced coordinator and they're far better than last year. And there
defense which was very good last year will be better this year. I have much more
faith in our offense than your Ute offense. You speak like your heads and
shoulder above BYU which is NOT the case, your team won a game 2 years ago even
though they were dominated most of the game, and won the game last year that was
more of a fluke than anything else, Utah was not better than the Y last year,
you can't look at a game where everything went wrong, unless you want to
look at the Colorado game as well, and say Colorado was better than you! Take
the blinders off!
10-2 for Utah? No way even if Wynn stays healthy the whole season. Their
offense just isn't good enough. Is Utah really suddenly much better than
at least 3 teams that beat them last year? I just don't see it. 8-4 for
USU is probably fair. However, this is still the same team that has been
woefully inept for years and struggled to finish games last year. Maybe they
figure it out this year. 9-3 for BYU is fair as long as Riley stays healthy.
If not, 7-5 is more likely.
@Stang08You need to keep up with your team down there in Cedar better.
I've seen two posts from you about some game on Saturday, but the game is
actually on Thursday. I can see SUU coming out hot because Sorenson is a good
QB, but I really don't think the T-birds will be able to hang with the
Aggies past the first quarter.Now on to the article. 8-4 for the
Aggies is a good prediction. Of their 4 losses that Randy is probably seeing
(Wisconsin, Utah, BYU and LA tech), I'm hoping for at least another 2 wins
from those 4. But as Stang08 has so delicately put it, you can't
underestimate anyone, that's why predictions are just for fun and the teams
will do the proving out on the field this season. Good luck to all teams from
Utah, except when they play my Aggies!
Uh .. Randy. Make that 4 QB's that missed games due to injury. Nelson
also missed 2 games due to injury.Local media is being over
optimistic predicting the utes' record. I'd say 7-5 and a berth in
the NM bowl is most likely.
CTJ --- Utah lost to Colorado by 3 points BYU lost to Utah by 44
points -- HUGE difference
If you don't believe the complete bias this newspaper has for BYU, then all
you have to do is look under the Utah/Jordan Wynn section and see where the
writer is completely oblivious to the fact that there is no longer a PAC-10. He
says "If Wynn, who had two shoulder surgeries over a 10-month period, can
stay healthy, Utah should be better than it was in its Pac-10 deut." (until
they see this post and change it). It would be nice to have just a little bit
of knowledge about teams not named BYU from the news media in SLC. I guess they
understand who pays the bills.
@WiscougarfanI was looking at Riley's 2010 and 2011 ratings, he
actually had a QB rating of 165 vs 2010 Washington as well. But Washington in
2010 was one of the worst defenses. Against 2010 AF (9-4) he struggled, QBR 74.
Let me try again, against non-WAC-like (aka good defenses) defenses Riley has
struggled.BYU is 4-8 vs teams above .500 with your current talent,
last 2 years. So how can BYU "easily go 5-1" against @Utah, @GTech,
@Boise, @ND, Washington State, and Utah State? Is your team really that much
better than last year? It would be more of a shock if BYU went 5-1. @CTJ fanIf Riley and Alisa are as good as you say they are
they should have been starting from Game 1. At the end of the season, Alisa
struggled against better teams TCU and Hawaii, but ran over the other teams.
Riley's QB rating against TCU 111 and Tulsa 109, others 160+.Yes Wynn also has struggled (QBR: 2011 - TCU 77, @ND 98, BYU 103 and 2012 USC
100) but then again he was injured. Thankfully we have a PAC-12 RB.
Uteology,You make it sound as if there is no way BYU could beat Utah
this next year. I'm glad you think that way. In that case, I'm kind
of glad that Utah's win against BYU was as wide of a margin as it was, if
it leads you and the Utah players to believe that BYU will be an easy win.
There was no way Utah could lose to UNLV or 2-10 Colorado at home, either.We don't know how good these teams will be, but I really hope your
Utes underestimates the Cougars as much as you do.
Aggieforlife,Good point it is on Thursday. But you really need to
think about how good each team is. SUU should be able hang with you guys for
the whole game. All aggies are way to confident. And when you are
overconfident your team get's punched in the mouth. UNLV found that out a
year ago and you aggies will find that out in a few days.
On Saturday, September 17, 2001, Utah was better than BYU.After the
season was over, College Football "experts" had the opinion that BYU was
a better team than Utah, since they ranked the Cougars higher in the polls.Those are the facts. I'm sorry if some people just can't
handle them. Maybe if Utah hadn't lost at home to a team that hadn't
won a road game in four years(?) then we wouldn't be having this
Stang, the one who is in for a brutal shock is you. SUU is an above average FCS
team, and will be playing against an above average FBS team in Logan. The
disparity is quite huge. Yes, you beat a very, very bad FBS team in Vegas, but
Utah State will not be pretty, and Cal will be even uglier for you.
Above average? And yes we could beat a very very bad FBS team again. I'm
not ashamed to admit Cal will kill us. But for you to think USU will do the
same is dumb. Sorry but I don't see it your way. You'll find out
just how good we are in less than 24 hrs.
Stang, where you at, buddy?
You won and did it well. You contained Brad and that's what needed to
happen. But that tells me you guys were afraid of him. Good luck next week
against an always better Utah team.