What is going on lately? Mabey it's just more coverage, or more high
profile shootings. There are a pretty steady 30,000 firearm deaths a year I
guess in the USA. But it sure does seem different this summer.
Too bad other people didn't have a weapon to shoot the shooter. The mayor
of that city was in a conference discussing ways to disarm those that lawfully
carry firearms.For some reason there are people that believe if you
get rid of guns, then murders would disappear. The fact is more people are
killed by knives and clubs than by guns. I guess we need to remove every
kitchen knife, pocket knife, and anything that can be used as a club. We need to
get rid of coffee mugs because one lady killed her husband with it (the tennis
judge I forget her name), nations fought before guns with knives, shields,
rocks, fire etc.We can't remove every possible hazard. We can
allow responsible citizens to protect themselves. Unless the government is going
to give each of us body guards through it's welfare program, they
can't gurantee our protection.Maybe instead of looking for ways
to control peoples lives, why not focus on getting people jobs for now? If we
can't solve that problem how are we going to solve people that lose it and
want to kill other people?
@you state "Too bad other people didn't have a weapon to shoot
the shooter." from the article "Nine others were hit by
gunfire, including some who may have been struck by police bullets." While I do not agree with restricting peoples second amendment rights I
think it also foolish to believe that vigilantism is going to lead to anything
but more deaths. Further, chest thumping about vigilantism does not help protect
second amendment rights it only fuels fear among those that seek to take your
guns away. stop helping to fuel their fire.
Ted's post is all over the place. I can't tell whether he's
concerned about the latest "mass clubbing" or claiming that only
unemployed people ever open fire. And how does he know there weren't armed
people all around our latest crime scene? Anyway, Ted has served us by reminding
us of the NRA party line, which they only repeat on non-shooting days.
Those that believe outlawing guns altogether would stop violence are wrong.We have outlawed illegal drugs, yet they flow freely. We tried
prohibition, but, alcohol still flowed freely. We could protect our borders and
bring the number of illegals coming in to a trickle. We try sanctions on other
nations, yet they still get through it. We have rules of no cheating or
plagarism, yet it still happens.The idea of disarming those that
would like to defend themselves with a firearm is ridiculous.We have
more traffic deaths on the roads. Should we ban cars altogether? More people
die from cigarettes and alcohol, should we ban those vices? People drown, should
we ban people from going out onto the lakes and being close to water? People get
skin cancer, should we outlaw the sun?
sorry my last comment was directed at Liberal ted.
"Those that believe outlawing guns altogether would stop violence are
wrong."ted,Who is "those" people who want to
outlaw guns altogether?That would be much more useful that arguing
against outlawing cars and coffee cups.
I was wrong. I thought Ted would be past the "Hey, cars kill people, too and
THEY'RE still legal" argument. The thing is, cars have other uses, and,
by regulating them, the streets are safer than they would be otherwise.
Re: Screwdriver Casa Grande, AZ"What is going on lately? Mabey
it's just more coverage, or more high profile shootings."Today they are reporting that all nine victims were shot ..... by the police
and not the suspect. As long as we are all so sure that gun control works
perhaps we should ask ourselves if we really want the police in New York City
packing deadly weapons either.I can perhaps understand the police
shooting 3 or 4 of the victims but shooting all 9 may be a case of over
overkill. (Yes, the pun was intended.)
@ Liberal Ted: Upon further review of the facts - you are proven wrong.The shooter shot and killed one man. The police, firing at the shooter,
shot and killed the shooter and injured 9 innocent bystanders.Imagine how much worse it would have been if there had been more than 3 people
Re: Kalindra Salt Lake City, Utah"Imagine how much worse it would have
been if there had been more than 3 people with guns."Yes, you
are correct, especially if the next 3 people were also police. I'm sure
you do realize that there are going to be questions about how much training
these officers had received.
Rifleman: Here's a quote from a sefl-confessed consealed-weapon permit
holder: "No, those of us who do have CCW permits feel any obligation to
come running to your rescue in your hour of need. That is what your cell phone
is for."I agree and posted basically the same thing as Kalindra:
Now add a bunch of citizens with guns ablazing into (choose any altercation
here), and guess what the results might be.
Re: xscribe Colorado Springs, CO"Now add a bunch of citizens with guns
ablazing into (choose any altercation here), and guess what the results might
be."When, exactly, was the last time you read about any private
citizen with a concealed carry permit who was fool enough to start blasting into
a crowd of bystanders to take out some crazed gunman ever? One thing the folks
in Utah with conceal carry permits have in common with the police in this state
is that they both have enough common sense not to do something so fool hardy.When is the last time you read about police in New York City shooting
into a crowd of bystanders to take out a gunman? The correct answer would be
Friday, Aug. 24, 2012.
@ RiflemanPeople using this story to try and promote gun control
don't have a grasp on the concept. If anything this story is an example of
why we can't depend upon the police in an emergency. Someone once
suggested that the police put on their pants the same way as everybody else.
When it comes to good judgment this story is a good example of what not to do.