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Pac-12 television networks launch on Wednesday

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  • sammyg Springville, UT
    Aug. 13, 2012 8:39 p.m.

    "Media industry sources believe DirecTV, with its reliance on sports programming, is far more likely than Dish to come to terms."

    Time to call DirectTV or Comcast and ask for the 'theMtn Plus' package.

  • Wally West SLC, UT
    Aug. 13, 2012 9:00 p.m.

    I have Comcast & am looking forward to this Wednesday and no fillers on 10/4.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Aug. 13, 2012 10:24 p.m.

    "The primary goals are not financial,” Scott added. “It’s a long-term opportunity to serve athletes and fans."

    Hmmm.....that sounds a lot like something Tom Holmoe has said. Does scott really mean it is EXPOSURE they are after? I thought the only thing that mattered was the check?

  • hymn to the silent Holladay, UT
    Aug. 13, 2012 10:29 p.m.

    A few exciting games this year from the pac and the value goes up...the delay in inking a deal is because Scott won't settle...Gotta like the guy for his gutsy management style.

  • Snack PAC Olympus Cove, Utah
    Aug. 13, 2012 10:54 p.m.

    "A few exciting games this year from the pac and the value goes up..."

    starting with the Utah - Northern Colorado scrimmage at 4 o'clock in the afternoon on a weekday, no less.

    The Utes are sure to become a fixture on the PAC Net while the big boys of the conference are playing on the real networks.

  • nosaerfoecioveht NSL, UT
    Aug. 13, 2012 11:49 p.m.

    haha haven't been on the comment boards for a little while- nice to see our jealous little brothers are right where I left them: obsessed with Ute football. It's ok guys, we don't blame you.

    "— The Pac-12 Networks are wholly owned by the conference, creating the possibility for a huge financial windfall down the road."

    It's a great time to be a UTE!!!!

  • Swoop Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 14, 2012 7:56 a.m.

    "The Pac-12 Networks are wholly owned by the conference, creating the possibility for a huge financial windfall down the road."

    Or a huge financial boondoggle if things don't work out as swimmingly as the day dreamers had hoped for.

    Welcome to the MTN on steroids!

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    Aug. 14, 2012 8:25 a.m.

    What, no HD truck? Still jealous.

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    Aug. 14, 2012 6:08 p.m.

    Still no satellite announcement and we are at T minus 24 hours for the PAC 12 Network launch.

    I'm betting that Mr Clayton and Mr. White are telling Larry...

    "If Cox Cable doesn't want it everywhere why should we?"

    LOL

  • Wallbanger Spanish Fork, UT
    Aug. 14, 2012 7:57 p.m.

    Sammy buddy

    Two simple questions for U...
    Why do you even care??? How does it affect your life and or BYU as to what the PAC 12 Network is or will be doing??? And you say you're not a Utah hater...

    LOL

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Aug. 14, 2012 10:35 p.m.

    @wallbanger

    Two simple answers for u....

    Sammy cares, as do I, because we have had to listen to utah "fans" spout about this for a couple of years. How it was going to be nationwide, available in every home, blah, blah, blah. Now that wouldn't be any big deal except those same utah "fans" tried to use those supposed "facts" to also denigrate BYU's tv deal which includes tons of games on ESPN and then of course BYUtv which reaches far more homes already than the pac12 network might ever reach. Utah "fans" bragged about it and what they claimed it would be from its inception and now that it is actually falling far short of those claims it is fun for us to point it out to utah "fans".

    So it affects our lives in that it is now our turn to LOL at utah "fans" for having an inferior setup to the one BYU has. Yes I know utah will get more money but none of us fans gets any of it. What we care about is being able to see our teams play. In that aspect BYU fans win this one. BYU has better coverage.

  • WACPaddingOurSchedule pocatello, ID
    Aug. 14, 2012 10:42 p.m.

    YAY!

    I can't wait to watch BYU play New Mexico St and San Jose St on TV to end the season! Some TV ratings that will generate.
    Ooops, almost forgot about Idaho.

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    Aug. 14, 2012 11:35 p.m.

    Wallbanger

    My favorite fan... I have nothing to worry about, I'll be able to watch all of my favorite teams... BYU, USU, Colorado, USC, Oregon, etc. and maybe an occasional Ute game. I have Comcast so I'm good to go.

    The satellite deal still might come about but in the mean time it's part of a three ring drama circus playing in Uteville.

    And I've always enjoyed a circus when it comes to town.

    Pac 12 Net, Blechen, and the Ute QB saga.

    The real injustice is the real Ute fan that won't get to see his team play on the blasted network that was hyped to be everywhere and sadly not available for some in Utah... satellite subscribers in particular and a few others on cable. Who cares about national coverage when you can't watch your local team.

    Nothing superior about that arrangement over BYUtv and ESPN.

    Enjoy my comments, they will continue coming as long as this story is news worthy.

  • Ufan Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 15, 2012 7:44 a.m.

    Unfortunately, the initial launch of the PAC Net is looking more and more like the failed MTN; it'll certainly improve with time, but the promise that this was going to be a nationwide network available to all fans nationally is falling far short of what was originally promised.

  • WACPaddingOurSchedule pocatello, ID
    Aug. 15, 2012 8:40 a.m.

    I would of thought that some BYU fans would be honest, rather than twist the word promise as related to the story and rollout of the network itself.

  • NightOwlAmerica SALEM, OR
    Aug. 15, 2012 10:23 a.m.

    And watching them backpedal about BYU TV is classic! "Its only for people that know what its about." How's that global programming working for ya!

  • Thlete Draper, UT
    Aug. 15, 2012 10:36 a.m.

    Comparisons of the PAC-12 Network to the Mtn are as laughable as they come. Larry Scott isn't negotiating with New Mexico, Wyoming and Nevada as main subscriber areas. He has several of the top TV markets in the nation with fans wanting access to the channel. He is in a position of power and the DTV deal will be done any day, as soon as they agree to what Mr Scott wants. Dish on the other hand can never be relied upon for decent sports programming, so I never expected them to be a player early on.

  • JohnInSLC Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Aug. 15, 2012 11:02 a.m.

    "Nothing superior about that arrangement over BYUtv and ESPN."

    Wrong again!! (You're still here, ducky? No miles to go--to Tulsa? No promises to keep--to go quiet on Ute stories?) It already is superior in that 1) the Utes will get far more $$$, and 2) more people will actually watch the Utes all season on ESPN, Fox and P12N, as opposed to watching the cougies playing against crappy teams on ESPNU at 8:30 MST on Thursdays in November, or on BYUtv following "Little House On The Prairie" re-runs.

    LOL, indeed!!!

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Aug. 15, 2012 11:04 a.m.

    @waccy and nighty

    I see you're trying to deflect the pain, it's ok, do what you need to do.

    LOL!

  • No Conference Will Take Us SEATTLE, WA
    Aug. 15, 2012 11:47 a.m.

    Duckhunter
    Highland, UT
    @waccy and nighty

    I see you're trying to deflect the pain, it's ok, do what you need to do.

    LOL!

    >>>

    Looks like a fellow BYU fan is deflecting pain. What is funny about being dishonest?

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    Aug. 15, 2012 3:10 p.m.

    Somebody's feelings get hurt?

    I see that my post from yesterday about why Cox Cable has put the brakes on the out of region coverage has been removed. Hilarious!

    Here's what Jon Wilner from the Mercury News got as a response from Cox Cable.

    In summary... Cox Cable in the regions will NOT be offering the PAC 12 Net National feed in addition to the regional.

    'Updating the Cox carriage situation, from 10/14

    "*** Won’t show any of the Pac12Nets feeds outside the league’s six-state footprint... except in Las Vegas, Sun Valley, Kansas, Arkansas and Omaha.

    Quinn said that despite 1) an agreement with the Pac-12 that gives Cox the right to show the national feed everywhere, and 2) what fans were led to believe on the Pac-12 website’s channel finder …

    “Our intention was never to launch in areas outside” the five noted above, she said.

    In regard to the Cox system in Oklahoma, she added: “Beyond the OSU-Arizona game, there’s not a lot of demand for the channel.”"

    I think Cox Cable knows what will and what won't make $.

  • PAC man Anaheim, CA
    Aug. 15, 2012 4:39 p.m.

    No conference championship for U

    "What is funny about being dishonest?"

    What's so funny about pretending to be a BYU fan because you're too embarrassed to admit to being a Ute.

    As painful as it may be for the kids on the hill to admit, the pipedream of the PAC Net being available nationally on the basic tier of programming is just that, a pipedream.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Aug. 15, 2012 5:37 p.m.

    @johninslc

    Delfect all you want, the fact is you will not be getting your wish because what you claimed would happen did not. I know it hurts you but I'm here for the duration.

    LOL!

  • PAC 12 Punching Bag Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 15, 2012 5:41 p.m.

    Why are so many of my fellow Utah fans pretending that this has turned out the way we all falsely claimed it would turn out? The truth is very few tv sets can watch our station and most of the tv sets in our own state have no access to it as of today, launch day.

    This is not what we were promised and this is not what we claimed. It is a bit of an embarrassment and our deal does not give us even half the coverage that BYU fans get for their team.

    It may improve with time but for now it is very disappointing.

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    Aug. 15, 2012 7:15 p.m.

    DNews has chosen to pull one of my earlier posts with quotes from Jon Wilner, San Jose Mercury News posted yesterday. His conversation with Cox Cable is quite informative about the Pac 12 Net's 'failure to launch' in Cox territory and possibly explains why the satellites are not lining up behind the Pac-12.

    My guess is that I'm enjoying this too much and some Ute fans are very 'sensitive' to this topic. My sincere apology if the facts are too explicit for both mature and immature Dnews readers.

    Here's the title... you know how to find it, now go read it.

    'Pac-12 Networks: Updating the Cox carriage situation'

  • NightOwlAmerica SALEM, OR
    Aug. 15, 2012 9:39 p.m.

    Duckhunter said:

    "@johninslc

    Delfect all you want, the fact is you will not be getting your wish because what you claimed would happen did not. I know it hurts you but I'm here for the duration.

    LOL!"

    Actually that is kind of creepy and sorry at the same time. Thanks for admitting that you live on this site though. That says a lot.

  • NightOwlAmerica SALEM, OR
    Aug. 15, 2012 9:52 p.m.

    PAC 12 Punching Bag said:

    ".....This is not what we were promised and this is not what we claimed. It is a bit of an embarrassment and our deal does not give us even half the coverage that BYU fans get for their team.

    It may improve with time but for now it is very disappointing."

    What good is coverage when nobody watches? Look at the ratings on ESPN last year. The BYU loss at home to Utah was great though!
    I can understand why BYU hopefuls would say that. Last year you were boasting and bragging about how BYU TV was going to bring cougar football to the world! That tune changed quickly.

  • PAC man Anaheim, CA
    Aug. 15, 2012 10:26 p.m.

    upinthenight

    "What good is coverage when nobody watches? Look at the ratings on ESPN last year."

    You obviously don't have a clue what the ratings on ESPN were - ESPN executives have said MANY times that they were thrilled to have BYU as a partner; so who should we believe, a jealous Utah troll, or the people in the know at ESPN?

    "Last year you were boasting and bragging about how BYU TV was going to bring Cougar football to the world!"

    BYUtv DID bring BYU football and basketball to BYU fans throughout the world, so why are you cluelessly trying to claim that it didn't?

    Bottom-line:

    --BYUtv is available in 65 million homes on the basic programming tier
    --PAC Net is available in far fewer homes and requires a higher programming tier or sports package in the limited coverage areas outside the PAC 12 footprint

    That's just the way it is, and no amount of whining or denial from the kids on the hill is going change that reality.

  • No Conference Will Take Us SEATTLE, WA
    Aug. 15, 2012 11:15 p.m.

    More shallow comments from a fellow BYU fan.
    Then why didn't you post the ratings PAC man?
    And what else do you expect ESPN to say? It the same thing they say about other contracts. Its their money on the line.

  • Truth Machine Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 16, 2012 9:08 a.m.

    No conference championship for U

    You're the one who was claiming BYU's ESPN ratings weren't that great; why didn't you post the ratings?

    Obvious answer: Because you're just spouting off based on NOTHING except your BYU-hating biases.

    I expect ESPN executives to express their honest opinions of their partnership with BYU, despite what our jealous friends on the hill may think.

  • NightOwlAmerica SALEM, OR
    Aug. 16, 2012 2:09 p.m.

    And in other news a major announcement in the college football world today.
    It appears that some BYU fans are right about other schools jumping to be independent.
    The mighty Idaho Vandals just announced they are going indue in football only. And Big Sky for all other sports.

    Oh and you play them this season!

    LOL!

  • Jealous U Alpine, UT
    Aug. 16, 2012 4:48 p.m.

    upinthenight

    The mighty Idaho Vandals would beat the tar out of the mighty Northern Colorado Bears.

    The Vandals basically had no choice because EVERYBODY else left the WAC and NOBODY, including the MWC, would take them.

    Not all Independents are created equally, just like not all major conference teams are created equally.

    In each case, somebody's got to be a bottom dweller - does 4-5 sound familiar?

    LOL!

  • NightOwlAmerica SALEM, OR
    Aug. 16, 2012 9:26 p.m.

    Jealous U said:

    "The mighty Idaho Vandals would beat the tar out of the mighty Northern Colorado Bears.

    The Vandals basically had no choice because EVERYBODY else left the WAC and NOBODY, including the MWC, would take them.

    Not all Independents are created equally, just like not all major conference teams are created equally.

    In each case, somebody's got to be a bottom dweller - does 4-5 sound familiar?

    LOL!"

    LOL! BYU also had a choice and chose not to join a real conference. It chose to not play on Sundays and keep its spoon fed ESPN contract. So what is left? Why being an independent!

    No wonder you are so Jealous U!

  • phoenix Gilbert, AZ
    Aug. 16, 2012 11:34 p.m.

    upinthenight

    BYU chose independence over compromising its core values. Fortunately, BYU has a national brand that is valuable enough to warrant signing an exclusive 8-year contract to have its games televised on the World Wide Leader, plus its very own state-of-the-art HD television network that's already delivering what the PAC Net is still well short of delivering.

    Jealous of U?

    LOL!

  • No Conference Will Take Us SEATTLE, WA
    Aug. 17, 2012 9:12 a.m.

    There is nothing exclusive about the ESPN contract. Otherwise all you would see is BYU 24/7. ESPN has plenty of other contracts. For example the one just signed with the ACC.

    I wish fellow BYU fans would stop stretching the truth about that.

  • PAC 12 Punching Bag Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 17, 2012 10:00 a.m.

    There is very little exposure for the PAC 12 Netwrok. Otherwise you would see it on sattelite and cable systems. But those systems have plenty of other, better channels, like ESPN and BYUtv.

    I wish fellow Utah fans would stop stretching the truth about that.

  • midpacmajor Salt Lake City, Utah
    Aug. 17, 2012 10:24 a.m.

    No conference championships for U

    You obviously don't understand the definition of an exclusive contract.

    An exclusive contract is a contract between one party and a service provider designating that provider as the only provider of a specific service for that party - in BYU's case, ESPN is the only provider of television coverage for BYU home football games subject to the specific terms of the contract.

    I wish Utah fans who are too embarrassed to be associated with the Utes would stop pretending to be BYU fans.

  • WACPaddingOurSchedule pocatello, ID
    Aug. 17, 2012 3:48 p.m.

    midpacmajor
    Salt Lake City, Utah
    No conference championships for U

    You obviously don't understand the definition of an exclusive contract.

    An exclusive contract is a contract between one party and a service provider designating that provider as the only provider of a specific service for that party - in BYU's case, ESPN is the only provider of television coverage for BYU home football games subject to the specific terms of the contract.

    I wish Utah fans who are too embarrassed to be associated with the Utes would stop pretending to be BYU fans

    ________

    So what you are saying is ESPN payed to be the exclusive network to televise the 54-10 beat down at LES?
    And is also paying BYU to be the exclusive network to televise Idaho, New Mexico St., San Jose St and more?
    Some exclusive contract. Yawn.

    LOL!

  • phoenix Gilbert, AZ
    Aug. 17, 2012 5:22 p.m.

    WACpaddled

    ESPN was also the exclusive network to televise BYU's amazing comeback against Utah State, easily one of the most exciting games televised last season, and ESPN will be there televise Texas, Georgia Tech, and Notre Dame visits to LES in the future.

    The point is, win or lose, every BYU game is nationally televised, most of them on ESPN, and even our jealous friends on the hill tune in to watch - thank you for your support.

  • nosaerfoecioveht NSL, UT
    Aug. 17, 2012 6:05 p.m.

    @ Phoenix

    "And even our jealous friends on the hill tune in to watch - thank you for your support."

    -commented the jealous BYU "fan" on a Utah article :)

  • WACPaddingOurSchedule pocatello, ID
    Aug. 17, 2012 10:28 p.m.

    phoenix
    Gilbert, AZ
    WACpaddled

    ESPN was also the exclusive network to televise BYU's amazing comeback against Utah State, easily one of the most exciting games televised last season, and ESPN will be there televise Texas, Georgia Tech, and Notre Dame visits to LES in the future.

    The point is, win or lose, every BYU game is nationally televised, most of them on ESPN, and even our jealous friends on the hill tune in to watch - thank you for your support.

    ______________

    Support indeed. ESPN is depending on fans from the other schools to watch and hopefully generate more ratings.