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Utah Utes football: Even with Chase Hansen's injury, Utes no longer thin at quarterback

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  • BYUalum South Jordan, UT
    Aug. 8, 2012 8:43 p.m.

    Yawn........

  • motorbike Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Aug. 8, 2012 8:50 p.m.

    @BYUalum

    RE: "Yawn........"
    _____

    Are you and your favorite team STILL asleep? I'd have thought 54-10 would've woke a few people up. It's all good, sweet dreams cougar fan ... sweet dreams.

  • Two For Flinching Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 8, 2012 8:52 p.m.

    @ BYUalum

    Nobody made you read it.....

  • Kosta Fesenko Chicken McNuggetville, UT
    Aug. 8, 2012 9:13 p.m.

    Very excited to see improved play. This offense could be VERY good if we can gel.

  • NORCALUTE MoTown, CA
    Aug. 8, 2012 9:47 p.m.

    From what I'm hearing from within the utes, Whitt is not revealing the whole story...this is shaping up to be a great ute team and season, but like usual the utes are waiting to prove it on the field.

  • StGtoSLC SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Aug. 8, 2012 9:54 p.m.

    Schulz is from Wisconsin, not Michigan, Dirk.

  • alternate Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 8, 2012 10:21 p.m.

    They absolutely must improve on last year's 5 loss season. They should.

  • Black&Blue St George, Utah
    Aug. 8, 2012 10:33 p.m.

    QB is by far Utah's weakest position on the team.
    You have Wynn, who crumbles in big game situations, extremely fragile, and has no pocket presence or scrambling ability whatsoever. Hayes, who has a lot of heart, but sub par talent as a Qb. And 3 completely inecperienced back-ups, one of which might never actually even play Qb. Utah was ranked #99 last year in passing, and I don't see that changing. With Utah breaking in both tackles, Wynn will not make it through October. Luckily a strong RB corps and a tough defense will spare you embarrassing blowouts.

  • gdog3finally West Jordan, Utah
    Aug. 8, 2012 11:28 p.m.

    @Black&Blue

    Yes breaking in two new tackles has me concerned. However, I believe Jordan Wynn could have a bounce back year. His arm strength has returned, which he hasn't had since his freshman season. As for his pocket presence, I thought Wynn had some poise in the pocket before he started getting hurt. If he can regain the confidence to stand in the pocket (big if) then I really am optimistic.

    I also worry about growing pains with Brian Johnson at OC. I like Brian and do think he will be a good OC. I just don't know if it's this season.

  • JustGordon Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Aug. 9, 2012 4:26 a.m.

    @BYU Alum Quarterback U is no longer Quarterback U...just another example of how the Y has and continues to slip further and further behind the U. Independence will be the single biggest mistake in Y Football in this century.

  • ute alumni Tengoku, UT
    Aug. 9, 2012 9:45 a.m.

    nice tatts........such huge arms. wow

  • phoenix Gilbert, AZ
    Aug. 9, 2012 9:56 a.m.

    Nice sugar-coating Dirk, but what exactly has changed from last season???

    Wynn is still an injury-prone starter.

    Hays is still a D-II transfer who couldn't even beat Colorado.

    Hansen won't play until 2015, and will probably be switched to defense when he does.

    Wilson is a Freshman with ZERO experience.

    Schulz is a "developing" walk-on with ZERO experience.

    WHEN Wynn goes down, which is practically a given, the Utes are left with Hays, who lost to four of eight PAC opponents, and two newbies, with no experience.

  • xert Santa Monica, CA
    Aug. 9, 2012 10:16 a.m.

    I remember sitting in the Coliseum and hearing numerous USC fans around me commenting on what a terrific qb Jordan Wynn (sore arm and all) was. He matched Matt Barkley series for series throughout that game. I personally think that Whitt and many Ute fans are underplaying what could be an amazing final two years from this guy. He was tough as nails his freshman season and destroyed BYU on the road last year. He was fragile and because he was a gamer, went down. It happens. This guy has two seasons, a ton of talent and running backs who know how to pick up the blitz and bash into the line as well. He will be fine and more. Perhaps much more.

  • ExecutorIoh West Jordan, UT
    Aug. 9, 2012 10:58 a.m.

    Whitt is trying to sell the QB corps, but nobody is buying it on their own. Like others have mentioned, this year's group is really no better than the situation last year. It is unlikely that Wynn will play much of the Pac-12 season. Once injured, chance for re-injury goes way up. I don't think they story is going to be any different than last year's. About a third of the way in, Hayes will pick up as QB and do his best to run the John White offense. It just isn't going to fool anybody this year. I don't see the Utes making it much further than .500 this year.

  • GoGetter Sandy, UT
    Aug. 9, 2012 11:47 a.m.

    It's gonna be a great season. GO UTES!! Time to make your presence not only recognized, but feared in the PAC!

  • dallas realist rockwall, texas
    Aug. 9, 2012 2:59 p.m.

    hahahahahahaha

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Aug. 9, 2012 3:51 p.m.

    So what really makes this years qb situation for utah better? Is it that there are more qb's? They are already down one as Hansen is done for the year. hays is still hays. wynn is still wynn. Both of them were part of last years abysmal situation. Now you would hope both would be one year better but considering they really weren't any good to begin with they would have to be massively better just to be ok.

    They have a couple of freshman, one is a walk on which means no one thought he was scholarship worthy, the other has some accolades but considering he is behind the 2 mediocre qb's from last year it would appear he has a ways to go.

    The attempt to try and make it appear that this means 'problem solved' for utah at the qb position is laugh out loud hilarious. These guys never have known how to develop qb's, just gettng a few more warm bodies on board sure doesn't change that and definately doesn't make the position a strength.

    LOL!

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Aug. 9, 2012 3:56 p.m.

    @justgordon

    If we want to just go off of the one criteria every utah "fan" claims to be more important than any other at judging talent to decide which school has the corner on qb's then lets just examine what BYU currently has on their roster.

    James Lark - top 15 in the nation qb recruit
    Jason Munns - top 20 in the nation qb recruit
    Tanner Mangum - #2 in the nation qb recruit
    Taysom Hill - top 30 in the nation qb recruit

    Of course those don't include the actual sr starter Riley Nelson who is vastly superior to any qb utah currently has and holds just about every single hs qb record for the state of Utah.

    I love it when utah "fans" just say stuff with no facts to back them up.

    LOL!

  • gonefishn Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 9, 2012 4:33 p.m.

    Duckhunter
    "Wynn is stil Wynn" you are correct, he lit byu up last year and is 2-1 soon to be 3-1 against BYU. You tout the qb's on the y's roster but Who cares when you start Riley Nelson.

  • 54-10 Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 9, 2012 4:54 p.m.

    Duckhunter
    Highland, UT

    .... and still Wynn is 2-0 against the mighty Cougars and last year they quit.

    But you wouldn't know that seeing as you were in Tulsa.

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    Aug. 9, 2012 4:54 p.m.

    gonfishn

    7 fumbles lit up the score board, Wynn had little to do with it.

    The Ute QB situation is really little different than what it was last year. Hays has some valuable experience and Wynn is returning again after surgery.

    Wynn has gained a few pounds, so what. The barometric pressure in RES will set new low records when the collective gasps and wonders if he gets up unscathed. Terrible to put that much pressure on the O line and everyone around him. Who will have time to execute the plays?

    Not an ideal situation but if you want to call it a significant improvement by all means go with it.

    It might take a season for the Ute staff to figure out these QB things. Who would have thought that Whit and company could have forgotten that a team needs a couple of QBs in the stable?

    No wonder Chow left for Hawaii.

  • Uteanymous Salt Lake City, Utah
    Aug. 9, 2012 5:22 p.m.

    54-IQ

    Gotta love complete and total obsession of the kids on the hill with BYU - how Utah's QBs match up with teams in the PAC is totally irrelevant; how Utah's QB match up with BYU is the ONLY thing that matters to them.

    Of course, the glaring oversight in your analysis - Wynn hasn't gone head-to-head with Riley.

    .

  • J W springville, UT
    Aug. 9, 2012 5:28 p.m.

    @JustGordon, you think independence was a mistake? It was one of only two options they had. Would you have chosen to stay in the Mountain West? I think Independence was a much better choice.

    @GoGetter, the PAC is the 4th best conference right now. Be honest, Utah has a long way to go to be "feared" in the PAC

    @Sammyg, Wynn had some nice throws that the BYU DB's played poorly. He didn't tear BYU apart but he did a nice job of taking advantage as they crumbled. Ute fans only have 5 more weeks to rub it in. They're doing a good job so far of keeping it going.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Aug. 9, 2012 5:41 p.m.

    @gonefishn

    wynn certainly did not "light up" BYU. Any honest evaluation of that game does not include wyn "lighting up" anything. BYU's problems were not of wynn's making. Hilarious that you would try to pretend that was it though, kind of insulting to the utah defense and john white who actually were the ones that did the damage.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Aug. 9, 2012 5:48 p.m.

    @sammyg

    You are insulting the single greatest football mind ever to exist, kyle whittingham. Shame on you.

    Of course a football mind that great could immediately change utah's qb woes, how could anyone believe otherwise? I mean look at all of the great qb's utah has had under whittingham, there's.....well there's......well there isn't anyone but that doesn't mean anything.

    Whittingham decided after last year that utah would "have the best qb situation in the nation" just like he proclaimed they had back in 2006 and he went out and got a walkon, a guy unranked as a qb recruit and one actual qb recruit, to ad to the two extremely mediocre qb's they already have. If that isn't fixing the problem then I don't know what is.

    Seriously utah is now the dominant school at that position in this state and probalby the pac12. Heck they may even have, as whittingham has proclaimed before, "the best qb situation in the entire nation".

    Don't doubt him, his qb track record is stellar.

  • U 90 Corona, CA
    Aug. 10, 2012 8:10 a.m.

    So much mud coming from the blue folks. Utah's QB's have historically delivered 54-10, 7 of 10 and 2 undefeated BCS bowl seasons. Yet ducky, sammyg and company are throwing stones from their glass houses.

    And then we have Uteanymous, the BYU fan trolling a Utah article calling Ute fans obsessed??? Duckhunter please sound your hypocrisy alarm.

  • Christy B Salt Lake City, Utah
    Aug. 10, 2012 9:38 a.m.

    U 90

    Utah's QBs have historically delivered only SIX conference championships in the last 60 years, only ONE conference championship during the Bronco/Kyle era, which SHOULD be Utah's PRIMARY goal according to all of the "conference of champions" chest beating we've heard from the hill crowd since Utah got its golden ticket to the PAC.

    Despite all of the talk, it's obvious that the primary goal for the Utes is, and always will be, beating BYU. A losing 4-5 PAC record in 2011 is totally irrelevant to the BYU-obsessed kids on the hill.

  • BigCougar Bountiful, UT
    Aug. 10, 2012 10:32 a.m.

    ""We weren't real deep," Whittingham said. "That happens on occasion."

    Whittingham explained that recruiting is very circumstantial in a lot of ways — especially at quarterback, where a variety of situations often come into play."

    Does he mean situations like where the "genius" coach moves all of his QB depth to other positions without a plan to adequately backfill the position for depth knowing that you're going to be moving over to the "Conference of Champions" which is also the "Conference of Quarterbacks" and QB is the single most important position on the team?

    Yes those "circumstances" happen occasionally, especially at a school where the "genius" Coach apparently thinks DB/LB and WR are more important than QB and he doesn't have a clue about the QB position because he's never successfully developed a QB for the NFL.

    This could be a new bumper sticker at the UofU:

    "University of Utah, where good QB's go to become Linebackers or Wide Recievers"

    Btw, quick question, did Chase Hansen get hurt before Whitt could move him to Linebacker or was it after?

  • BigCougar Bountiful, UT
    Aug. 10, 2012 10:45 a.m.

    @gdog3finally
    "However, I believe Jordan Wynn could have a bounce back year"

    I actually agree with you. I think Wynn is a gutsy player and he showed it with all the hard work he put into the weight room in beefing up to withstand the rigors of playing D-1 QB. He came to Utah as a skinny 160lb QB and now is over 200lbs. It's not easy for skinny kids to put on weight so it's a credit to him for the dedication and hard work.

    If he can stay healthy he will be somewhere between an average to pretty good QB in the Pac 12 and that's really all you need.

    @54-10
    ".... and still Wynn is 2-0 against the mighty Cougars"

    Fact Checker: Wynn lost to BYU in 2009 (Doh!)

    @JustGordon
    "just another example of how the Y has and continues to slip further and further behind the U"

    Not even close. Since Whitt is the "genius" at developing players for the NFL, how many QB's has he developed for the NFL during his Head Coaching tenure? The answer is a big fat zero. Meanwhile Bronco has sent 2. Again, Doh!

  • Rockwell Baltimore, MD
    Aug. 10, 2012 10:52 a.m.

    Great analysis BigCougar

    "We weren't real deep," Whittingham said. "That happens on occasion."

    Understatement of the year by the "genius" coach:

    Translation:

    We have an injury-prone starter coming off of major shoulder surgery, and our only backups are a D-II transfer and two newbies who absolutely stunk it up in spring ball.

    No wonder Chow RAN screaming from his alma mater after only one season!

    If Wynn goes down, the Utes are right back in the same situation they were a year ago, relying on a D-II QB who couldn't even beat Colorado.

  • royalblue Alpine, UT
    Aug. 10, 2012 11:00 a.m.

    U 90

    Historically, here's what Doman/BJ have delivered on the QB front:

    Doman has developed THREE NFL QBs, including himself.

    BJ has developed ZERO NFL QBs, including himself.

  • factcheck Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 10, 2012 11:36 a.m.

    Jordan Wynn is the man. He tore BYU up in his 3 games. Lets look at the facts. Wynn vs. BYU

    -He averaged under 200 yards in the 3 games.
    -3 TDs and 4 INTs
    -Replaced by Terrance Cain during one game.
    -Bad call (Knee down) or he is 1-2
    -When they lose to BYU he will be 2-2 (Max was 2-1)

  • StGtoSLC SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Aug. 10, 2012 12:34 p.m.

    BigCougar: "The answer is a big fat zero."

    Fact checker: Brett Ratliff = 1, not zero.

  • U 90 Corona, CA
    Aug. 10, 2012 1:55 p.m.

    royal blue, Utah is no QB factory (neither is BYU anymore). Y fans who mock Utah's QBs are simply casting stones from their own glass houses. Utah's QBs have been good enough to own BYU in recent years. If you want the Y to be awarded "better QB school" you can have it. Most Utah fans just want to win games and see the program make progress toward another big bowl (i.e. Fiesta, Sugar).

    Christy B calls Ute fans "BYU-obsessed kids on the hill" while 2/3 of the posts on this Utah thread are from BYU fans. Who is obsessed Christy?

  • Jenny83 OGDEN, UT
    Aug. 10, 2012 1:57 p.m.

    Fastcheck "with they lose to BYU" Ok first of all Utah beat BYU by 44 points in Provo last year. Secondly, this year they are playing in Salt Lake City.. & If you go on Rivals you will see that Utah is ranked 28th in recruiting for the 2012 class and BYU is ranked at # 61...So why would you be so optimistic?

  • Jenny83 OGDEN, UT
    Aug. 10, 2012 2:01 p.m.

    Funny how 90% of those posting on this article are byu fans..You guys are truly pathetic.

  • SportsFan Orem, UT
    Aug. 10, 2012 3:24 p.m.

    Jenny83

    20 of 36 = 90%

    Must be the "new" math they teach on the hill.

    It's laughable that Utah fans spend so much time comparing slight differences in BYU and Utah recruiting classes and then extrapolating that into vast "Utah superiority," yet those same fans delusionally claim that Utah actually has a chance of challenging USC for the PAC South.

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    U 90

    BYU is not only the "better QB program", BYU is also the "better football program".

    During the Bronco/Kyle era

    Top 25 Finishes
    BYU 5
    Utah 3

    Top 15 Finishes
    BYU 3
    Utah 1

    If you're drinking the red koolaid that one game a season makes, then, the worst team in the PAC 12, Colorado(3-10), was BETTER than U last season.

  • U 90 Corona, CA
    Aug. 10, 2012 4:13 p.m.

    SportsFan,

    Anyone can carefully select a statistic and a slice in time to prove whatever point they want. Watch I can do that too:

    During the Bronco/Kyle era

    Top 2 Finishes
    BYU 0
    Utah 1

    Trips to BCS bowls
    BYU 0
    Utah 1

    Head to Head
    BYU 3
    Utah 4

    6-6 Seasons
    BYU 1
    Utah 0

    Bowl Wins
    BYU 5
    Utah 6

    Losses to Utah State
    BYU 1
    Utah 0

    How about responding to the theme of my posts instead of getting off point, that is.... BYU's current stable of QBs are no better than Utahs. So why are all the Y fans hating on Ute QBs? Please don't tell me Riley Nelson is the next world beater.... like Y fans told us Jake Heaps was.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Aug. 10, 2012 4:36 p.m.

    @SportsFan

    All great points but you forgot one more. Bronco, and BYU, has more total wins than kyle, and utah as well.

    LOL!

  • TrueBlue Orem, UT
    Aug. 10, 2012 5:04 p.m.

    U 90

    Unfortunately for U, BYU doesn't have to slice and dice rankings to prove anything to U.

    The record speaks for itself!

    Alltime Top 25 Finishes

    BYU 18
    Utah 7

    AP/Coaches

    1964 Utah UR/14
    1977 BYU 20/16
    1979 BYU 13/12
    1980 BYU 12/12
    1981 BYU 13/11
    1983 BYU 7/7
    1984 BYU 1/1 National Champions
    1985 BYU 16/17
    1989 BYU 22/18
    1990 BYU 22/17
    1991 BYU 23/23
    1994 BYU 18/10, Utah 10/8
    1996 BYU 5/5
    2001 BYU 25/24
    2003 Utah 21/21
    2004 Utah 4/5
    2006 BYU 16/15
    2007 BYU 14/15
    2008 BYU 25/21, Utah 2/4
    2009 BYU 12/12, Utah 18/18
    2010 Utah UR/23
    2011 BYU UR/25

  • U 90 Corona, CA
    Aug. 10, 2012 5:54 p.m.

    TrueBlue,

    Yet Utah STILL owns BYU head to head all time, L10, L5. L1. For every point you make there is a counter point. So it's a ridiculous exercise to go back and forth.

    Again, if you go back and read this thread the general theme is.... BYU Fan hating on Utah QBs. And my point is that your own QBs are really not that prolific so why all the hate?

  • StGtoSLC SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Aug. 10, 2012 7:34 p.m.

    U 90,

    But BYU's QBs ARE REALLY prolific! Look at the Utah high school record books, and you will not see Wynn, Hays, Wilson or Schulz anywhere in there! Yet, it's full of Nelson, Lark and Kuresa! See?! See?!

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Aug. 10, 2012 8:29 p.m.

    phoenix
    Gilbert, AZ

    Nice sugar-coating Dirk, but what exactly has changed from last season???

    -------------

    The incoming 2012 class is Utah's highest ranked class at Utah. That would explain why Utah now has depth at QB and RB.

    From what I read, not including comments from Utah haters, all indications are Utah is better today than Season I.

  • TrueBlue Orem, UT
    Aug. 10, 2012 8:34 p.m.

    U 90

    NOBODY except the hill trolls cares about your leather helmet era head-to-head "domination", because Utah did absolutely NOTHING on a national scale.

    BYU has dominated U since Utah's first appearance in the Top 25.

  • CG Orem, UT
    Aug. 10, 2012 10:27 p.m.

    Uteology

    "The incoming 2012 class is Utah's highest ranked class at Utah. That would explain why Utah now has depth at QB and RB."

    As usual, you bury your head in stars and completely ignore reality.

    Utah's top two QB's for 2012 are the SAME as they were for 2011:

    An injury-prone starter and backup D-II transfer who LOST to 10-loss Colorado.

    And that doesn't even consider the fact that the Utes are replacing Chow with BJ, a newbie OC with only a couple of years of coaching experience.

  • U 90 Corona, CA
    Aug. 10, 2012 11:43 p.m.

    True Blue,

    I guess I didn't know that you consider the Latest 20 years, L15, L10, L5 and last year the "leather helmet" era. Try to keep up.

  • mussingaround Palo Alto, CA
    Aug. 11, 2012 1:58 a.m.

    U 90

    Pre-WAC - Utah owned BYU
    WAC/MWC/PAC/Ind - BYU has owned U

    Last 6 Years
    Top 25 Finishes
    BYU 5
    Utah 3

    Conference Championships
    BYU 2
    Utah 1

    Head-to-head
    BYU 3
    Utah 3

    Overall
    BYU 60-18
    Utah 58-20

    ---------------

    Last 40 Years

    Top 25 Finishes
    BYU 18
    Utah 6

    Conference Championships
    BYU 22
    Utah 5

    Head-to-head
    BYU 26
    Utah 14

    Overall
    BYU 349-148-3 (70%)
    Utah 264-202-3 (57%)

    ---------------

    Last 50 Years

    Top 25 Finishes
    BYU 18
    Utah 7

    Conference Championships
    BYU 23
    Utah 6

    Head-to-head
    BYU 29
    Utah 21

    Overall
    BYU 394-204-4 (66%)
    Utah 313-255-4 (55%)

    The L6, L40, L50 BYU has owned U.

    Try to keep up.

  • Solomon Levi Alpine, UT
    Aug. 11, 2012 9:03 a.m.

    mussingaround

    The numbers are completely dominating in BYU's favor ALL TIME when you consider overall accomplishments on a national scale - National Championships, Heisman Trophies, Top 25 Finishes, National Individual Awards, and National College Football Hall of Fame players.

    Utah has NOTHING but a bunch of leather era conference championships in conferences the vast majority of fans have never even heard of and a couple of recent "perfect storm" breakthroughs.

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    U 90

    Name ONE Utah accomplishment on a national scale prior to 1962, the year BYU and Utah helped create the WAC.

    *crickets*

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Aug. 11, 2012 9:55 a.m.

    @u90

    The point, and it is an accurate one, is that utah still does not have anywhere near the stable of highly touted qb recruits BYU has, it isn't even close. utah has exactly one top 20 qb recruit on its team while every qb on BYU's roster (Kuresa is an athlete that has been moved to wr) is a top 30 recruit including one that is the #2 ranked recruit in the entire nation. The only exception to that is Nelson who owns just about every qb record in the Utah high school record books.

    Now utah "fans" have tried to claim in this very forum that utah has surpassed BYU at that position in recruits and tlaent, that is just plain false. utah has very little history of either recruiting, or developing, top qb's. It is not a destination for qb's and one off season in which they picked up one decent qb recruit hasn't changed that reality. While wilson was a borderline top 20 recruit Mangum was the #2 recruit in the country. Outside of that utah got a walkon and an unranked qb recruit in hansen. Obviously problem solved.

    LOL!

  • utahcountyute Cedar Hills, UT
    Aug. 11, 2012 3:46 p.m.

    Ducky

    You can keep all your "highly touted" qb recruits. You didn't mention your most "highly touted" in the last decade though. I wonder why? Oh that's right he's now the back up at Kansas. (laughing on the ground)

    I like our chances this year with Jordan, Hays and Wilson. Either way, the cougs won't get past the 50.

    Go Utes!

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Aug. 11, 2012 7:30 p.m.

    @Ducky

    Yes you have highly touted QB's that no one wants, specially the NFL.

    The question is why can't your highly touted QB's beat out a QB that would be a 3rd string QB at Utah State this year if he had stayed?

    BTW isn't your 5 star, highly touted, #1 QB now a "backup" in Kansas?

  • Proud Ute ,
    Aug. 11, 2012 10:31 p.m.

    James Lark - top 15 in the nation qb recruit
    Jason Munns - top 20 in the nation qb recruit
    Tanner Mangum - #2 in the nation qb recruit
    Taysom Hill - top 30 in the nation qb recruit

    What the troll did not say about the cougar clipboard corp:
    This group has a TOTAL of 9 pass attempts. Pretty weak prep job there Coach.
    Mangum won't throw a pass for 3 years, better not count those chickens yet.
    Last #2 was a absymal failure. Was it him or was he mismanaged?

    Give me the experience, grit and class of Jon Hays anyday.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Aug. 12, 2012 9:50 a.m.

    @utahcountyute and uteology

    The fact that Heaps, the #1 qb recruit in the nation, couldn't beat out one of BYU's other recruits, and the fact heaps transferred and BYU STILL has 4 top 30 qb recruits, including the #2 qb recruit in the nation, on their roster, are just more evidence of how far beyond utah BYU is in qb recruiting.

    Oh by the way, BYU's last 2 starting qb's that have run out of eligibility are either now in the NFL, or else made an NFL roster and started NFL games. Sounds like the NFL does want them uteology, how embarrassing for you to assert something false about something so widely known.

    LOL!

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Aug. 12, 2012 6:40 p.m.

    @proud ute

    "Give me the experience, grit and class of Jon Hays anyday."

    Yea, right. LOL!

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    Aug. 12, 2012 6:45 p.m.

    Uteology

    "BTW isn't your 5 star, highly touted, #1 QB now a "backup" in Kansas?"

    Nope, not even close... he's a benchwarmer sitting out a mandatory transfer year.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Aug. 12, 2012 6:47 p.m.

    Oh and "proud" ute, Mangum and Hill are freshman, brand new to the program, of course neither has thrown a pass, what a weird assertion by you. Lark and Munns, both top 20 recruits, are the backups. That is what happens when you are a school that signs high school all american, top 20 qb recruits just about every year. You see with the qb position only one guy plays most of the time. It's kind of like other schools that are noted for signing top talent at certain positions, a recruit that would be starting at most places never does at a top school, that is how it is at BYU with qbs. Kids that would start at the majority of the schools in the nation, like...say...utah for example, are just backups at BYU because BYU has so many of them. It is a very nice reality. utah "fans" wouldn't understand.

    LOL!