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Utah Utes football: Brian Blechen: 'I've got to be accountable'

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  • thunder struck Murray, UT
    Aug. 2, 2012 3:58 p.m.

    ur lucky ur not arrested. smoking pot is not good. DARE

  • Wallbanger Spanish Fork, UT
    Aug. 2, 2012 5:07 p.m.

    thunder struck

    You do realize that most police officers don't arrest people for carrying a small amount of pot on them anymore. Most just give you a class B misdemeanor ticket to appear in court. A large amount like intent to distribute would get you arrested. Pot is harmless compared to alcohol, the number one reason there is domestic violence. What is DARE? Drugs Are Really Expensive?

    Best of luck to you Blechen, you're a stud and I know you'll learn from this. Looking forward to when you get back on the field.

  • Runner Chandler, AZ
    Aug. 2, 2012 5:54 p.m.

    Way to go Whit, once again showing the HIGH degree of integrity that this program is known for. You have someone who broke the law and you give him 3 games. 3 lousy games. If this program had half the character that the team does that you always like to poke fun at, he would really be held accountable, kicked out of school and be told to work his way back after showing a real change, not just be given a slap on the wrist and held out until league play begins.

  • Osgrath Provo, UT
    Aug. 2, 2012 6:59 p.m.

    What is Runner talking about? Does he have detailed knowledge of the situation to know whether the punishment is adequate? Does he know that Whit is making fun of BYU? I've never noticed that, and I follow BYU pretty closely. Does he know for a fact that Bronco would have kicked an athlete out of school for whatever Blechen's transgression was?

    Personally, I find the most efficient way to make a fool out of oneself is to state strong opinions based on insufficient information. And as a Cougar fan I personally dislike it when other Cougar fans make fools of themselves because I feel like I get hit by the fallout.

  • CO Ute PARKER, CO
    Aug. 2, 2012 7:05 p.m.

    @runner

    Your supposed moral superiority offends me deeply. First, the young man was suspended for breaking a team rule which has been reported as failing a drug test. This is very different from someone that is caught breaking the law. Utah has team rules regarding this type of situation and Coach Whit is following the rules exactly as written. Your opinion that Mr. Blechen should be kicked out of school is simply that; your opinion and nothing more. No one asked for your opinion who the university should conduct their business.

    Next time you find your self exceeding the speed limit, I suggest you follow your own advice and surrender your drivers license and then work your way back after showing a real change. After all you should be held accountable because you broke the law.

  • Tomahawk Red North Salt Lake, UT
    Aug. 2, 2012 8:11 p.m.

    Runner...

    Give it a rest. Blechen made a mistake. First offense. Is that how the Y deals with mistakes? Punish someone to the fullest extent for screwing up the first time?

    If that's how the Y does it, they should be ashamed of their narrow view of the world.

    Actually, three games is a bit LONG for a mistake of this kind. Should've been one or at most, two game suspension. Then, if Blechen does it again... the punishment should be more severe.

  • Prep Fanatic Los Angeles, CA
    Aug. 2, 2012 9:10 p.m.

    It was reported in the press that this was not Blechen's first failed drug test. If this is true, then yes the punishment should've been harsher! Sometimes we put sports way ahead of what's really important. Lesson's do not get learned when things like this get pushed aside. I am a Utah fan, and I too would like to see Blechen playing. the problem is, is that all of these athletes think that they're bigger than the game. Marajuana is an illegal drug in Utah. I hope Blechen learns his lesson this time. He has way to much talent to waste!

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    Aug. 3, 2012 12:06 a.m.

    CO Ute

    "Your supposed moral superiority offends me deeply. First, the young man was suspended for breaking a team rule which has been reported as failing a drug test. This is very different from someone that is caught breaking the law."

    I guess you are right CO Ute. You've convinced me to join the ACLU and the fight to dismiss DNA testing too.

    Tomahawkie

    "Give it a rest. Blechen made a mistake. First offense."

    Multiple infractions = 1. Sign me up for the next Ute math course.

    Go BYU, Chick-Fil-A and Mitt!

  • gdog3finally West Jordan, Utah
    Aug. 3, 2012 12:39 a.m.

    @Runner and Thunderstruck

    Of course BYU would have handled it differently. They have a code and they are a church run program. It is what it is. If you agree with what you think would likely happen at BYU, and then demonize Utah for it, you are no different than a Ute fan who rips BYU for kicking players in certain kinds of trouble out of school. To me, Blechen's suspension isn't some kind of Mickey Mousse affair.

    Weed is a bigger deal to some over others. Yes it is against the law, but there are many laws. Most of us exceed the speed limit at times. There are strong opinions on drugs, specifically weed, that have many points of view. Thankfully, lawful punishments aren't as harsh as they used to be. I for one would favor the legalization of pot. Still, it doesn't help you become a better football player, and most coaches would frown upon it for their players.

  • Brave Sir Robin San Diego, CA
    Aug. 3, 2012 10:27 a.m.

    Runner, don't even get on your accountability high horse...BYU has no credibility when it comes to accountability any more. Maybe you noticed that just yesterday BYU disciplined O'Neill Chambers for the same reasons as Blechen (violation of team rules). Blechen got 3 games - Chambers got ZERO. That's right - he's suspended for fall camp but he'll be right back on the field for BYU's first game.

    So do you really want to preach on about accountability?

  • CougarinVegas HENDERSON, NV
    Aug. 3, 2012 11:32 a.m.

    My take on the Article is that Whit is a great coach and he will help Blechen make a course correction that will benefit his life. I like Bronco but was disappointed when BYU didn't get Kyle. He is a special coach.

  • YGradFan CENTERVILLE, UT
    Aug. 3, 2012 12:05 p.m.

    Ute fans, please ignore some of the stupid and senseless comments other anti-ute fans are making about this story and situation. I'm not a Ute fan, but can see the bigger picture with this situation. Any team in the state, whether Utah, BYU, Utah State, etc. has had players do something like this. I think Whit did a great job in handling this situation.

    With this said, I'm wondering why anyone, regardless of school affiliation, would be so willing to not only put their own career and success on the line, but especially their team's, for something so selfish and senseless? You know the possible consequences. Why take a chance in disappointing family, friends, teammates, and fans? Just something that has never made any sense to me.

  • YGradFan CENTERVILLE, UT
    Aug. 3, 2012 12:27 p.m.

    ...also glad to see Blechen is taking accountability for it. Just hope he learns from it and is able to make it back.

  • PAC man Anaheim, CA
    Aug. 3, 2012 4:53 p.m.

    Brave Sir Robin

    "Runner, don't even get on your accountability high horse...BYU has no credibility when it comes to accountability any more. Maybe you noticed that just yesterday BYU disciplined O'Neill Chambers for the same reasons as Blechen (violation of team rules). Blechen got 3 games - Chambers got ZERO."

    Your feable, whiney attempt at deflection has ZERO credibility. O'Neill Chambers will never again play football for BYU.

    As for K-Whit's three-game slap on the wrist to Blechen, Brian not only broke "team rules", he also broke the law; the kind of "rule breaking" that lands most people in JAIL.

    MULTIPLE failed drug tests means Blechen has been breaking the law for a long time. Instead of trying to sweep this under the rug, Utah fans should be outraged at the black eye Blechen has given the Utah football program.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Aug. 3, 2012 4:57 p.m.

    @osgrath

    You do a great job all on your own, no fallout needed.

    But the fact is runner knows what he is talking about here and you don't. It has been reported in both local major papers, and on every sport talk radio station, that blechen failed MULTIPLE drug screens for marijuana. In otherwords yes everyone knows this was not the 1st time he's been caught but it is the 1st time anyting that could be considered in any way significant has been done. And this was not whittigham doing it, it was school policy. The fact whittingham and hill have been no shows on the matter shows us all we need to know.

    Now whether or not Bronco would be more strict is not something we can answer definitively but we all know he has been much stricter in the past, as has the University itself. It has only been a couple of months since 2 players from the baseball team were kicked off the team and out of school for smoking dope. 1st time caught and they are gone, there's your answer.

    Speak about efficiently making a fool out of yourself.

  • Unca Bon OREM, UT
    Aug. 3, 2012 6:00 p.m.

    Yeah, Chambers is done, so that point is mute. BYU does just fine disciplining their players, and Ute fans trying to argue against that after Harvey Unga and Brandon Davies were both suspended are blowing hot air (and their infractions weren't even against the law). That said, I think the 3 game suspension is appropriate.

  • There You Go Again Saint George, UT
    Aug. 3, 2012 6:10 p.m.

    How did McMahon stay eligible for five years?

    Under-age consumption of alcohol is/was not illegal in Provo?

  • StGtoSLC SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Aug. 3, 2012 6:21 p.m.

    "Brian not only broke "team rules", he also broke the law; the kind of "rule breaking" that lands most people in JAIL."

    I've never heard of anyone going to jail for failing an institutionally performed drug test. Brian's kind of "rule breaking" is the kind that most people receive institutionally established disciplinary action for. Like probation, drug counseling, and eventually dismissal. The same kind Brian is receiving. Some of you haters are a little funny, others are just silly.

  • StGtoSLC SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Aug. 3, 2012 6:28 p.m.

    Unca Bon, if I'm not mistaken, Harvey Unga left school, he was not suspended. Why would we trust your opinion on allegations against the Utes if you don't even know what happens with your own team?

  • Unca Bon OREM, UT
    Aug. 3, 2012 6:42 p.m.

    Semantics.

  • CordonBleu Park City, UT
    Aug. 3, 2012 11:16 p.m.

    The Blechen apologists tell us all we need to know about the hypocrisy that runs rampant on the hill.

    Duckhunter was absolutely correct; Blechen would have been booted from any team other than football for the exact same offense.

  • CG Orem, UT
    Aug. 4, 2012 12:04 a.m.

    There You Go

    If they suspended every underage drinker at Utah, they'd have to shut down the football program and kick the MUSS off campus.

  • gdog3finally West Jordan, Utah
    Aug. 4, 2012 3:41 p.m.

    @Duckhunter

    Yes, it's not Blechen's first time around the block. I am disappointed by this, but I am hopeful things will get straightened out.

    Obviuosly BYU would handle things differently regardless of what Runner says. Is one way better or worse? That's where many get divided.

    Maybe Blechen's punishment so to speak could be greater, but I am not in favor of the harshness of BYU's honor approach. That said, I didn't sign the honor code either.

    If players or students want to go to BYU, then maybe they ought to live with whatever punishment happens when they mess up. Most probably do. Still sometimes the inconsistency of penalty at BYU happens as well, and some grow sour after choosing BYU in the first place. But that doesn't stop BYU from finding people willing to play football for them. Sure they lose some recruits, as most schools do, but the bunny keeps ticking.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Aug. 5, 2012 3:04 p.m.

    @stg

    Harvey left school before he could be suspended, it was coming and you know it. What a weak attempt at splitting a hair.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Aug. 5, 2012 3:10 p.m.

    @gdog

    I'm actually not saying blechen's punishment should be more severe for this or that utah should run its discipline in the same manner as BYU, they are different institutions with different standards. What I am saying is that it is obvious not much of anything was done to blechen previous to this, and that is where utah has failed, and it appears that whittingham and hill simply want to hide out because they are the ones responsible for nothing being done previously.

    It has been reported that this current punishment is a university mandated policy and whittingham and hill have no choice in the matter or else I have my doubts anything would have been done this time either. If whittingham really had any desire to get this under control he would do something more and not simply hide behind a university mandated punishment. But he hasn't, and won't, and that tells us all we need to know about it.

  • StGtoSLC SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Aug. 5, 2012 4:43 p.m.

    Duckhunter: "Harvey left school before he could be suspended, it was coming and you know it."

    That's my point, the fact that I knew it and not the one trying to use it as an argument doesn't help his credibility.

    "It has been reported that this current punishment is a university mandated policy and whittingham and hill have no choice in the matter or else I have my doubts anything would have been done this time either."

    And why do you think it is a university mandated punishment? The school is not required to drug test their athletes, the NCAA does their own tests separately. If Whit and Hill's only aim was to "cover up" Blechen's failed test, they wouldn't have selected him for testing in the first place. Or they would have ACTUALLY covered it up and not released the results and not suspended him. Extremely failed logic on your part.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Aug. 5, 2012 9:57 p.m.

    @CordonBleu

    Duckhunter was absolutely correct; Blechen would have been booted from any team other than football for the exact same offense.

    ---------

    Not so. Here's an example:

    TCU coach Gary Patterson says starting quarterback Casey Pachall will not face team discipline after the junior admitted to police in February that he used marijuana and failed a drug test.

    Patterson said Pachall has completed drug and alcohol counseling mandated by the university, and no suspension will be handed down....

    In a police report released last week, Pachall said in February he smoked marijuana just prior to failing a drug test. Pachall also told police he used cocaine and ecstasy in the previous year, but said, "Both were just a one-time thing and (he) hasn't done either since."

    Source: ESPN

    So BYU fans please move on?
    How about that new recruit X'avier Shepherd.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Aug. 5, 2012 10:32 p.m.

    @stg

    Actually the logic failure here is yours. This policy, and the punishment, is mandated by the university, not by hill and whittingham. They obviously have done nothing previously about it other than what is proscribed by university policy, once again not by them. Even this time there appears to be nothing more being done to blechen, and I'm not saying there should be just that there isn't, other than what is required by the university.

    If blechen had been suspended for a "violation of TEAM rules" as falsely asserted by the athletic department then whittigham and/or hill could receive some credit for this, but that is not the case. It is purely university policy, something which hill and whittingham have no control over.

    I commend the university for at least having a policy and a drug testing program but whittigham and hill get a failing grade for taking any action at all on their own and you get a failing grade for trying to distort this and pretend that they have anything at all to do with it when they are obviously MIA.

  • StGtoSLC SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Aug. 5, 2012 10:49 p.m.

    Duckhunter, you're not getting it. The University does not drug test just any random students in the school in these screenings. It is the athletes because it is the University athletic department. And who is in charge of that? The athletic director. And the team? The head football coach. And the only reason it is being reported in the news is because the athletic department has to announce when players that are expected to play are not going to. They're not going to announce an in-house disciplinary action because that violates an athlete's confidentiality.

    You know, most things really are just as simple as they appear, there's not a conspiracy behind everything. Or you could just continue to believe that I work for Deseret News and Coach Whit, Dr. Hill and Coach Krystkowiak hold secret underground meetings to determine how they can get away with dirty dealings.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Aug. 6, 2012 8:49 a.m.

    @stg

    utah has an athletic department oversight panel just like almost every other university in the country. They are the ones that institute policy like drug testing of athletes and they are the ones that proscribe punishment for it. Theswe panels are made up of department heads and high ranking university officials from OTHER departments, not the athletic department. That is by design, whittingham has nothing at all to do with it and hill has little to do with it.

    Once again it is a sound, and commendable policy, by the university of utah, but it is not something hill or whittingham get any credit for.

    They had their opportunity to do something more to show their own concern when blechen 1st started failing drug tests, and they did nothing. Even this punishment has nothing at all to do with them, pointing that out is not claiming a "conspiracy" it is just pointing out the obvious to extremely deluded utah "fans" who can't tell reality from crimson.

    At what point have either hill or whittingham said they even support this university mandated punishment? They haven't. Saying that would not violate student privacy, yet they remain silent. Telling.

  • Unca Bon OREM, UT
    Aug. 6, 2012 10:46 a.m.

    Seriously STG?

    I figured your intelligence would manage the connection without having to spell things out in black and white. I'm guessing it was, but like Duckhunter said, you enjoy splitting hairs. My point still stands.

    Harvey Unga left school because he knew a suspension was coming. He knew a suspension was coming because he knew that BYU would uphold their Honor Code standards.