Dan Cathy, President of Chick-fil-A, came away the winner in his fight with the
thought police. If local leaders think they can punish him by denying building
permits to Chick-fil-A restaurants because of his opinions they can expect to
learn a lesson from him on the 1st Amendment in Federal Court the hard way.
I wonder if the Dixie Chicks ever ate at Chic-fil-a ? Wasn't
Disneyland being protested by conservatives for performing same sex marriages on
thier cruise ships? You put the HIGH in hypocracy. Good job!
"‘I think we are inviting God's judgment on our nation when we
shake our fist at Him and say 'we know better than you as to what
constitutes a marriage,’ and I pray God's mercy on our generation
that has such a prideful, arrogant attitude to think that we have the audacity
to define what marriage is about,' he said at the time."----Cathy didn't say anything about gay marriage. Nope. Zip,
nada, niente.This article started out by demonstrating that
Christians are hypocritical, then moves on to say that progressives and liberal
businesses are going to suffer?Weird.
So let me get this straight. It's ok to be bigoted if supported by your
religious views, but if you have contrary views, you are trying to take away the
rights of the bigots? It's ok to be active in your views, but not for the
other guy? Frankly, this whole controversy is absurd. The fast food
guy can have his views, and opponents should be free not to give him their
business. Mayor Bloomberg had it right on this.
This action is no different than countless other situations in which the
left-wing has done everything it could to silence someone with an opposing
viewpoint. Indeed, the left is determined to silence all who oppose it.The left is out to force same-sex marriage on the public, without giving the
public a chance to decide for itself. In fact, the left will not hesitate to use
intimidation, threats, or bullying to force this issue.It is time to
stand up to this brand of leftist economic intimidation. Buy all the chicken you
can, or watch your freedom of expression be destroyed.
The fact that a couple of politicians made egregiously stupid remarks about
unconstitutionally using their office to harass Chic-fil-A doesn't change
the fact that Mr. Cathy made egregiously stupid remarks about unconstitutionally
denying equal rights to gays.I shake my head in disgust and dismay
at both Mr. Cathy and at Mayor Menino and Alderman Moreno.
It is the denial of rights if you are on the left and it is hate if you are on
the right. Hypocrisy at its finest. Well-written opinion piece. Thank you!
Esquire: "So let me get this straight. It's ok to be bigoted if
supported by your religious views..."There is nothing straight
about your argument. Standing up for religious principles only equals bigotry in
the eyes of radical leftists.Believing and saying that drugs are bad
and that we shouldn't legalize marijuana does not mean you are bigoted
against anyone who ever smoked a joint and you hate them and are denying them
their civil rights.Believing and saying that having children out of
wedlock is wrong does not mean that you are bigoted against single mothers and
you hate them.Believing that marriage should not be redefined to
suit the wishes of gay activists and believing that homosexual activity is wrong
does not mean that you hate gays and are denying them their civil rights.
Re: Blue Salt Lake City, UT".... Mr. Cathy made egregiously stupid
remarks about unconstitutionally denying equal rights to gays."I
may not agree with your opinion on Mr. Cathy's remarks but you certainly
have the 1st Amendment right to express them. Thank goodness we don't
allow the thought police the authority to ban opinions some people think are
There is no "civil right" to gay marriage and there certainly nothing in
the constitution about it. Unlike abortion, the Supreme Court has not yet
"found" that new right between its written words either.So
everyone who spouts off about those who support traditional marriage are somehow
denying gays their "constitutional civil rights" (or anything similar)
is telling you a big lie.
You can get pro-free-speech fast food anywhere. But an anti-gay-rights chicken
sandwich is special.
@JoeCapitalist2;We have the Civil Rights to be treated equally by
our government, which provides benefits to married couples and refuses to allow
GLBT couples to marry.@JCC;I had no idea we were trying
to force you into a same-sex marriage.
Re: Screwdriver Casa Grande, AZ"But an anti-gay-rights chicken
sandwich is special."Gays boycotted Chick-fil-A on Wednesday and
"Appreciation Day" propelled the company to a "record-setting
day." So much for the Gay attack on our 1st Amendment rights.
The liberal thought police are simply horrified.
RanchHand: You may think that the equal protection clause means that because I
am allowed to marry someone of the opposite sex (I am heterosexual) it must also
mean that a homosexual must be allowed to marry someone of the same sex, but
that is just your opinion. It has no basis in law.Until
Congress passes laws or the Supreme Court rules that this is the case, it will
remain just your opinion. As every issue put in front of the voters has proven
so far, your opinion remains in the minority.
This isn't about chicken or politics or even the right to marry. This whole
movement is all about a group of people who KNOW deep inside that what they are
doing is wrong. They scream in denial but they know it's wrong. They try to
drown out their inner voices but they still know it is wrong. Their inner
turmoil is evidenced in the depth of their anger, their fervor, and their
eagerness to villify and lash out at anybody who dares voice an alternative
opinion.In light of their condemnation by their own consciences,
they hope society will tell them their behavior is acceptable or normal. They
not only hope, but they NEED society to accept their behavior. Accepting them as
people is not good enough. They need to have their actions, no matter how
depraved, accepted as well.The sad news is that even if society
accepts and normalizes their behavior, it won't shut off the voice inside
that tells them their behavior is wrong.
Machado seems to know a lot about the inner voices of gay people. Rifleman, since you were able to post that opinion on gay rights, I'd say
that your free speech has yet to be infringed. As far as
anti-gay-rights advocates eating greasy meals in support of Chick-fil-a's
anti-gay-rights agenda, it doesn't bother me at all. Eat a stick of butter
on the way home.
Re: Screwdriver Casa Grande, AZ"Rifleman, since you were able to post
that opinion on gay rights, I'd say that your free speech has yet to be
infringed."The Chicago GOP has filed a complaint with the
Illinois Department of Human Rights and Attorney General Lisa Madigan over the
discriminatory action by Alderman Proco Moreno against the food chain
Chick-fil-A. It appears that Mr. Moreno stepped over the line when he said he
would block Chick-fil-A from getting a building permit.Sounds like
the Gay boycott of Chick-fil-A was a Godsend to that food chain. Business has
never been so good.
looks like I won't be spending any more $$ at JC Penney!!! Pretty
the big question here - whose side is America on?? Drive by a Chick-Fil-A and
you will see!!
Patriot, you just can't see the people that are NOT going to Chick-fil-a.
If you want to eat three meals a day there it's really fine with EVERYONE.
You really can get a pro-free-speech hamburger anywhere. But you are
right on, the only place I know of to get an anti-gay-rights chicken sandwich is
at Chick-fil-a. Carry on since that's about the least effective way to
lobby congress that I can think of. While EVERYONE in the world
including myself has allready said the alderman was out of line, the ACLU is on
chick-fil-a side and the alderman hasn't DONE anything yet, you are
outraged.Meanwhile, conservatives are actually denying muslim
mosques building permits and baptist churches in the south are still denying to
marry black couples. Where is your outrage? There's nothing
more facinating than watching a full blown right wing media induced conservative
@VST;The government provides over 1100 benefits to married
couples.The Constitution:Article IV Section 2;"The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and
Immunities of Citizens in the several States." (ALL the privileges and
immunities - including the benefits of marriage).Amendment 14;No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the
privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State
deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the
laws.It seems quite clear that amending state constitutions to deny
privileges and immunities to GLBT Americans is Unconstitutional per the US
Constitution. SCOTUS has already determined in many other cases that the
government (including state government) can't pass laws restricting civil
rights without valid reasons. "God doesn't like it"
isn't a valid reason to pass laws restricting civil rights. And since when
do we even put civil rights up to a vote? Only when their the rights of GLBT
RanchHand:Just like every other single person out there, you are
free to join the ranks of the married by finding someone of the opposite sex who
will marry you and marry them. Just because gays only want to marry someone of
the opposite sex does not mean that they are not treated equally.I
know that the GLBT community wants to change the rules so they can marry
differently than everyone else, but like I said, the opinion that gays are not
treated equally is just your opinion. It only seems "clear" to you (and
a small minority of other Americans) that denying them the right to marry is
Re: ‘The Chick-fil-A protest could boomerang against activists’It already has. The Tucson activist that made such a jerk of himself
bullying a Chick-Fil-A employee -- who remained the paragon of professionalism
throughout -- was fired over the incident.
@JoeCapitalist2"There is no "civil right" to gay marriage and
there certainly nothing in the constitution about it."There's no "civil right" to interracial marriage outlined
explicitly in the constitution either but that didn't stop the supreme
court from finding it a right nonetheless.@Machado"This
whole movement is all about a group of people who KNOW deep inside that what
they are doing is wrong."No, they're just told that all the
time by people like you. Of course, I'm not surprised that sort of bigotry
would be openly considered acceptable in society.
Machado - That's kind of embarrassing. Who are you to say what someone
"KNOWS deep inside." Patriot - Although I probably
don't agree with you on SMS, I can agree with you that the selection at JC
Penny is "pretty disgusting". Have you seen their mom jeans? Who still
wears Arizona brand clothing anyway?
Who really cares about the protest or the owners cause?The food
isn't that good and that is what matters.
@ BDUB 5:30 p.m. Aug. 3, 2012"I can agree with you that the
selection at JC Penny is "pretty disgusting". Have you seen their mom
jeans? Who still wears Arizona brand clothing anyway?"I do. Its
one of the few brands that cater to people w/ "reasonable" waist sizes
and long legs.
“Because, like it or not, they're the ones who don't share
majority values.”Really? “According to
surveys included in the [PollingReport database] an average of 50 percent of
American adults support same-sex marriage rights while 45 percent oppose it,
based on an average of nine surveys conducted in the past year.”-Support
for Gay Marriage Outweighs Opposition in Polls, By Nate Silver, The New York
Times, May 9, 2012. “According to the March 2012 Wall Street
Journal/ NBC News poll (the most WSJ/NBC News poll recent to include a question
on gay marriage) currently 49% of Americans favor gay marriage, with 40%
opposed.”-WSJ/NBC Poll on Gay Marriage: 2012 vs. 2009 vs. 2004, Washington
Wire, May 7, 2012 Mr. Garvin, perhaps should do a bit of research
before he attempts to define for America what majority values are.
“Progressive politicians from coast to coast were lining up last week to
keep Chick-fil-A's fried-chicken restaurants out of their towns. . .
“Oh my! This sounds like there are many, many politicians from
coast to coast keeping Chick-fil-A’s out of their towns. What? Only three?
Oh my.“So what was it Cathy said to get his company banned
from three of the largest cities in America?”Uh. . . the
company is not banned from any city, nor will it be. If the cities attempt this
they will easily lose in court. But why does Mr. Garvin, the writer of this
op-ed piece chose to lie and say they are banned?“Not a word
was spoken, by either Cathy or the reporter, about gay marriage, gay rights or
gay anything at all.”How dishonest. It is very clear what
Cathy and the “reporter” were talking about. And Mr. Gavin
drastically edited what Cathy said, as per RanchHand.
For years I have chosen to shop at stores or buy products from businesses that
support my values and avoid businesses that don't support my values. I
haven't made an issue about it, I just make my own choices. Thanks for the
list. Now in addition to Macy's I can decide not to purchase Nabisco,
Pillsbury, General Mills, and JC Penny.
thank you for this article.
Please add the following to your list, JSB. McDonalds, Coca-Cola, Pepsi-cola,
Marriott, Apple Computers, Microsoft, Amazon, Delta Airlines, Best Buy,
AT&T, Chevron, Dell, Toyota, General Motors, Disney, Volkswagon, Wells
Fargo, Google, General Mills, Motorola...... I could go on. I think
these companies have discovered that treating all people with dignity is an
important value when running a company. I am saddened that people claim they
were standing up for a company's "first amendment rights" over the
dignity and emotional well-being of their brothers, sisters, and neighbors who
are constantly reminded that they are considered second-class citizens.
screwdrive & ranchhand, looks like the voice of the people continue to
confirm what voters in 32 states have already stated.We will not be
intimidated nor controlled by people who have their own agenda to control the
opinions and voices of God fearing people.It's been attempted over
the centuries and in the end it always fails.In reverse, I've never
bashed or boycotted a company for contributing to the gay/lesbian groups.But if pushed, we will begin to dissect each company and business,just as the
glbt is doing, and direct our $$$ to businesses who believe as we do.Then we'll see who stays in business, who opens new branches in San
Francisco, Chicago and any place else anyone foolishly tries to deny us of our
1st Amendment rights.Just remember that it was the group that cries
for tolerance and respect that started the boycotting.Also, here in
AZ, the lines to get food at Chik Fil A were at least as long as the rest of the
"But if pushed, we will begin to dissect each company and business,just as
the glbt is doing, and direct our $$$ to businesses who believe as we
do."Outstanding, AZRod, please get started. Really??? has
provided a list to get you started. I can provide many more if you need them.
By the way, don't care about "tolerance" or
"respect" (for instance I have zero respect for opinions like yours),
but I do have a strong idea of what is right and wrong, and I'll tell you,
it is absolutely wrong to deny people the ability to marry whom they love.
Absolutely wrong. And the majority of people in this country agree with me, and