BRAVO! And thank you!!
The death of any child is a tragedy and speaking as a parent, I think that
there's no hole deep enough to throw that kind of monster into.That said, this article is nothing but hysteria, biased assumptions, and
faulty logic. If you want to take a honest look at how people use porn and the
effect it has on their lives, fine. However, not everyone who has a glass of
wine with dinner becomes a raging alcoholic and the overwhelming majority of
people who view pornography live normal lives. If everybody who did were a
killer, society would be on the verge of extinction. Don't you realize
that?It's really sad that you're using something like the
deaths of children as a moral bludgeon, but this is the Deseret News. Why
should I be surprised?
KJB1,Agreed that all who drink a glass of wine are not alcoholics
nor that all who ever viewed pornography have turned into monsters.But all alcohol is not wine and all pornography is not a simple sexual act
between two consenting adults. There are a host of other issues introduced into
pornography (violence and coercion among them).Further, we regulate
alcohol more than we do pornography. The only requirement for pornography is to
be 18. But to drink you have to be 21 in many states. We limit what alcohol
can be mixed with (witness the recent furor over mixing it with energy drinks).
We do not impose such limitations on pornography. Mix it with violence? No
problem. Add girls who look underage? Fine (they’re not, right?). Add a
teacher having sex with boys in her class? Sure (after all, the male actors
just look young).If we defend pornography do we also defend the
industry? Would we feel good about our family member pursuing such a career?
If not, why not?I believe it is because, at its foundation, we know
it to be exploitative to its participants. Why would we support such an
If the author means "us" meaning the ACLU and other liberals and lawyers
and judges who think the First Amendment to the Constitution means freedom of
speech means pornography is "protected" speech then he is right.
Otherwise, the rest of us would like to see some good old fashioned morality
applied and the laws restored that treated this JUNK like what it is - an anchor
on our society, pulling it down.(In case anyone has forgotten, freedom of
speech is about We The People being able to speak freely about or gov't,
good OR bad without penalty or harrassment)
‘Sierra Newbold a victim of America's apathy to VIOLENCE
problem’ would be more accurate since this opinion piece is nothing
but an opinion based on speculation.As soon as they find out who did
these things, then you can throw accusations as to why around, otherwise
it's just the usual Dnews weekly anti-porn rant.Do the old men
taking child brides in southern Utah, do so because of porn on the internet? or
Because of religious beliefs?
booshway said:If the author means "us" meaning the ACLU and other
liberals and lawyers and judges who think the First Amendment to the
Constitution means freedom of speech means pornography is "protected"
speech then he is right. . Otherwise, the rest of us would like to see some good
old fashioned morality applied and the laws restored.Fortunately
"Freedom of speech" is not limited to "religions" view of
freedom, or no one would be free.I hear that most of the middle east
agrees with you however, and religion still dictates your (moral) speech by law.
If we were given every detail of what these victims suffers at the hands of
these sadist killers, even the ACLU would find that worth chucking the First
Amendment in the case of pornography.This begins with a progressive,
ongoing succession of bad behaviors before they reach the point of desiring to
gain their high with killing. And once they have experienced this thrill, it
has to be re-experienced and eventually ending up in a Jeffrey Dahmer type
While much of hardcore pornography is pure filth, I can't imagine you can
really show any sort of causation in this case. In fact, it's more tenuous
than people who want to increase gun control, because the guns kill people.The fact is there are some people who are violent, and they commit
violent acts. You can blame whatever medium you want, but getting the government
to come in and control everything isn't the answer, either. People want to
pin it on something and just say, "well if you'd just have better gun
control," or "if we could just get rid of the porn problem," but the
truth is that if everyone who compulsively looked at porn or owned a gun was out
raping and killing, the Earth wouldn't have much of a "human
Many convicted killers of woman whom they have sexually attacked before killing
them have admitted they were porn addicts. I don't think we have a
statistical base for determining what percentage that would be, but it would be
enlightening. I personally believe that porn addiciton can and does often lead
to violent behavior. The writer of the opinions (this is an opinion section)
does make valid points.
This article makes my head hurt. We know very little about this situation, and
the author has already blamed pornography. There was a time when I would come on
this site and try and argue logic. It's just not worth it.
Murder is a form of desenification.Killing bugsKilling
rodentsKilling stray cats & dogsFinally killing humans.Hunters who own many guns are statistically more likely to snap and kill
someone in cold blood than a late night reclusive homebody sufing the internet
for porn.BTW - Porn is a problem in America.Maybe we
should be more like the evil Socialist Europeans and restict the free and easy
access to it.The ball is in your freedom loving court Patriotic,
Constitution Loving [hypocritical] Conservatives.Personally, I think
the Europeans are ahead of us in many things -- Access to Porn, Healthcare,
non-agressive wars, ect.....
The problem with the Sierra Newbold homicide is the lack of outrage. It was
determined to be a homicide and the police stated that it was "isolated"
and "they were reviewing video footage from a security camera" and
then...the fires took over everyone's attention. This is a murder! There
is still a culprit running around and the case is unsolved! The lack of news
about the police searching for and finding the monster that did this is
appalling to me. Can wee be SO callous that we don't care if little girls
are not safe in their own bedrooms at night? Whatever it takes to bring this
case to the attention of the police and public is OK with me. These crimes
can't go unnoticed nor unsolved!
We live in a world where the evils of the past are more "front page"
than ever before. Does that make people less concerned about this tragedy or
that tragedy? According to this author and to other posters on here the answer
is yes. I disagree. We want instant fixes and results and answers when at times
there is no answer, no fix, no result. Rather than rail against that system I
would say consider, if you would please, the words of Ghandi: "Be the change
you seek in the world". What I mean by this is make certain that
you are kind to others and encourage them to be kind to everyone they come into
contact with. Take care of your little pond and over time your "pond"
will become bigger. Ultimately if we all did that rather than rail against what
the "man " is doing or not doing we will all be better off.
This is all so very sad. However it has very little to do with Porn. It has to
do with males committing sex crimes and sex crimes against little children, and
this is of course wrong and when caught and convicted the Death Penalty should
be used all the time and as quickly as possible. I do not care what social
imbalance that they may have. Most people who have had a tough time don't
offend. Most people who view Porn don't offend. Some people who don't
view Porn do offend. Porn may have something to do with it and child
porn in and of its self is against the law. However it is what people do after
viewing the porn, not the Porn that's the problem.Porn is Legal
over 18 and people in their general free agency are free to view it and they do.
24/7/365 if you don't like that then change the law. I might support you,
but I warn you, When Freedom Of Speech starts to go, so won't Freedom of
Religion. It is not the Porn Viewed or not, it is the action of man.
The assertion that "we" killed Destiny is reprehensible and untrue.
"We" didn't kill her. However those who find gratification in
thoughts of raping and murdering young children do. Pornography, though also
reprehensible is only an enabler to these people and only keeps the
already-formulated fantasy alive. Although I would wholeheartedly support
the banning of all porn sales in this country, I doubt that getting rid of porn
would diminish the unspeakable acts of these monsters. These people have
infested society long before porn and will continue to do so long after porn.
We may not be able to outlaw all porn. But, who are the people who are
producing and distributing this stuff? It shouldn't be too difficult to
identify the people who own and sell porn in the "adult" stores in Salt
Lake City and publish their names and addresses. With a little more digging
perhaps we could find other people getting rich on this filth. Perhaps if people
knew their identities would be exposed, they might be a lot less inclined to
I was dismayed to see your insensitivity skipped right over Hser Ner Moo, whose
death was no less appalling. They are all tragic and , so far, all isolated.
Until police release more details, you don't know what was behind it.
I was secretary to Dr. W. Cleon Skousen and my son was raised with Brad Newbold
and his wife was our young women leader in our ward where Brads nieces
introduced them and they got married. Brad's father was our bishop when my
husband I got married and we live3 on the Newbold homestead land in Fort Union
and the Newbold wellhouse is in our back yard. We love this family and none of
us will ever be the same again. I have worked with Mr. Ward and Mr. Harmer and
We are lucky to have these wonderful men taking a look at this problem. My
husband and I have raised 13 children... 9 adopted and some of them have been
victims of this type of abuse and some of their parents are currently
incarcerated for these crimes... I pray and hope there will be more concrete
answers in dealing with people, who get involved in pornography themselves
victims in their own upbringings. My children will face their abuse the rest of
their lives and we as their parents face it too.... It's a terrible thing
for us all...... Our prayers are with all who suffers....Lynda Kimball Richards