Harbaugh is about as believable as obama. Look harbaugh, smith knows what he is
at this point and it isn't the equivalent of Peyton Manning. He's just
happy to have a job, you don't need to try and make him feel like he was
your guy all along since we all know that isn't true. He's what
you've got so get out of him what you can and next offseason go for the
next best guy available.
Whittingham would be wise to heed the old adage "be careful what you wish
for because you might get it." I know that he and most Utah fans think they
are the second coming of USC, but I wouldn't hold my breath. It will be
interesting to see what the state of Utah athletics is in 5 years.
Wow - first 2 posts and both can't wait to dump on the U. Typical from
Ducky but if this was a BYU grad he would be a great QB just looking for the
right situation. Since it is a former U player, he is clearly lucky to have a
job. Alex Smith isn't a pro bowl QB right now but he is a legitimate NFL
starter.Balan - neither Utah or BYU needs the head to head match up
right now as they both have bigger fish to fry. If Utah does or doesn't
play the Y, it won't have any impact on the state of athletics in 5 years.
Frankly the U may be better served by scheduling a team they can beat every year
instead of worrying about losing 3 out of every 10 times.
I think Whittingham is no different than many BYU alumni nowadays, wondering in
particular what the future holds for his alma-matter's program. I think
the choice to go football independent was and still remains an effort by the BYU
administration to remain relevant in the now fast changing pace of college
football. But with what BYU can schedule in such a position, and the
difficulties both external (no Sunday play policy) and internal (LDS Church
leadership politics...wanting BYU to stay in WCC) in joining a league like the
Big 12 presents clearly shows a program strained, particularly as it has now
continued to struggle more for the caliber of LDS student athletes to recruit
who now wish to go to other power league schools as well as Utah. A BYU program
that can find its way into the Big 12 can certainly revive and be the exposure
tool desired and convince Utah it's relevant enough to renew the rivalry
after a short 3-4 year hiatus perhaps. But not joining if a sincere offer comes
could eventually "Rexburgize" the BYU program by late in the decade.
The arrogance of Utah is astounding...Our program is in the PAC12 now and we
can't schedule BYU. Interesting that Florida/Florida State play each
other every year...ditto USC/Notre Dame plus many other schools who are not in
the same conference. Utah's head has grown bigger than their
program...especially considering they didn't even play Stanford or Oregon
last season with losses to USC, Washington, California, Colorado etc. etc.
re:slc byu fan. You recited bullet points like a well oiled ute fan...that you
are. The BYU program is far from strained, in fact it's
incredibly vibrant. More and more interest is being given to BYU and more
potential recruits are taking a look. The real story is that U fans
are miserable of the success the BYU is having, while they are buried in a top
heavy league with no ESPN in sight. In addition Utah if finding out that being
in the PAC only means you get the left overs from AZ, ASU, USC, UW, Stanford and
Byu has a big problem. They never win big games. Look at their bowl record. It
Couldn't be much worse.
Just my thoughts .........I'm thinking Utah did pretty darn good last year
considering they had a d-2 quarterback and was their 1st year in the PAC 12. How
did your team do against the Utes last year?
The picture says so much! First half of the November game 2010. 2010! How
hard was it to search the archives to find the last moment a Y fan cheered at a
Whom am I sir...When that Coach's Poll said BYU #25 and Utah...
zip, nada, zilch, etc. there's a big cheer. The local yokal bragging rights
don't seem to mean squat on the national stage. Nationally that 54-10 game
didn't matter except it probably bumped the Cougars a few notches down!That NC, lots of 10+ win seasons, multiple conference championships,
multiple top 25 appearances and a history of great QBs make BYU the media
darling it is.The Utes are like the old Avis car rental ads... we
try harder.Or Burger King, Wendys to McDonalds comparison. Burger King or Wendy's might have a better burger but they will always be
behind McDonalds. Just got in the 'business' a little too
Jenny83"...I'm thinking Utah did pretty darn good last year
considering they had a d-2 quarterback and was their 1st year in the PAC
12."... until the thought process comes full circle to that
Colorado game and then the harsh reality of how miserable 4-5 really is in the
conference... sixth or eight place out of 12 teams, and then again...Jenny, you
had a PAC cupcake schedule. You have one more season until the
'Goliaths' come to annihilate the Utes.I'm a big fan.
I can't wait.
Samantha - Alright - So Byu is better than Utah ..... With that thought how come
Utah has won 7 out of the last 10 meetings with byu....... Seriously, if byu is
better, why do they rarely beat the Utes.... And what does it say that Utah
couldn't be lowly Colorado but they humiliated byu on their own turf....
Justmythoughts:"The arrogance of Utah is astounding...Our
program is in the PAC12 now and we can't schedule BYU. Interesting that
Florida/Florida State play each other every year...ditto USC/Notre
Dame..."There's a big difference between UF-FSU and USC-ND
games, from the Ute-cougars matchup. The former 2 don't matchup a relevant
school with some WAC-ish and mid-majorey opponent, and their desire to play each
other are mutual. However, while Utah has between 9-10 relevant games each
season -- thereby manufacturing no additional need to schedule the Indy-WACers
-- the Utes' little brothers desperately need us. Thus, we have the
creation of a desire to play each other that is NOT mutual. However,
it COULD be mutual if Holmoe would just do the right thing and agree to an
arrangement with 2 games at RES to every game at LES. The cougars seem to feel
justified in doing it to the Aggies, so similarly, the Utes should feel
justified in demanding likewise from the cougs.If Holmoe won't,
then let it die. This game just isn't that important to us anymore.
Brad, my bet is if you really tried to take the time to understand what Ron Paul
was saying, you'd be fine for him running for office any time he wants.
Feel free to make fun, but don't complain if ten years from the now, the US
is still involved in wars all over the place, buried in debt, and government
power is constantly increasing.
@Jenny83It says according to Ute fans that on the day of the Colorado game
the better team won but we had a d-2 quarterback so we can accept that. But when
the Utes beat BYU you know the mighty Utes it had everything to do with how
great they are and nothing to do with the steam roll effect. Yes the Utes beat
BYU they were the better team that day. But that has not always been the
case.@CO UteNo I do not think that Alex Smith is a bad QB he has
been in very bad situations new coaches every year let him have a couple of
years and then we will see where he is at good or bad. But the same can be said
for Beck. Now Hall is a different case he never had the ability to play at the
next level maybe the arena league but that is about it.
"It will be interesting to see what the state of Utah athletics is in 5
years."How right you are!In five years, Utah will be
leaps and bounds further than where they are now.BYU, not so much.
In one breath, "Hey Utes! YOU'RE NO USC!"In the next
breath, If USC can keep their rival game why can't U?"Hahaha... You guys crack me up.
Just as I predicted when Utah went to the PAC 10/12 and BYU went indie, this
rivalry is about to die. Utah looks at BYU like it does USU, and BYU has yet to
find itself. The culprit? Greed in college football.
I agree with Whittingham - nothing is more important than being a mediocre
This article changes the definition of "marriage".I thought
DN was opposed to that.
re: Spurrier's comment about paying athletes $3500-4000 beyond normal
scholarship monies. In the SEC, this will be a massive pay cut for most of the
Proximity will always make Utah / BYU a game to watch. However with the U in the
PAC 12 now and their amped up schedule I think the significance of the game has
lost its luster. Bronco also has his contract end next year and I am betting he
will coach elsewhere. Unless BYU joins the BIG 12 I really and sadly see the Y
program going into a steady decline. Independence in football simply
doesn't work for the long term. BYU isn't Notre Dame.
Here in Texas, people know of BYU, but not the utes. It's that way in most
states. It's BYU TV revenue, supplied coaches, and other contributions
which built the ute football program.I can see the reason for
stopping the rivalry and building an identity. So be it, and let it be done.
Let's build an identity Utah State.
And if the two teams don't play anymore what will all of us have to
complain about. NOTHING. Truth is we all like to hate each other. It is fun.
And it is a type of rivalry that takes generations to build.So to
all you Ute fans that want to move onto your Utah/Colorado rivalry I say have
fun. It will never be the same. You won't have a bunch of Buff fans
looking in the SL Trib or Desnews at the comment board and no one to read your
trash talk.Cougar fans will feel the loss of having an "evil
empire" to abhor. Who will they complain about? So lets all
get real - the worst thing to happen to all of us is the loss of this rivalry.
It will make football a lot less fun.
worfit's the only thing you ever have to say, Here in Texas,
people know of BYU, but not the utes. Don't you think that's getting
a little old. Keep thinking that way but leave it alone we all know now that
Texas knows byu and not Utah. Way to go to the state of Texas byu is better
well known than Utah. Give me a break, for atleast a week.
BYU Joe:Losing the rivalry isn't the worst thing to happen to
all of us. It's the worst thing to happen to the COUGS! Back
during our WAC days, the only games we had to look forward to was the Holy War,
Colorado St, and MAYBE one or two O.O.C. games. We played 11-game regular
seasons, and were only stoked for 3 or 4...plus a bowl game, if we got one.Back during our MWC days, CSU faded, but was easily replaced by TCU. We
moved to 12-game schedules, which provided us an extra exciting game. Still,
we'd only be counting down the days for 4 or 5 games, plus our bowl.
Certainly an improvement, but only 1/2 our games were really watchable.Now, in the Pac-12, we'll be saddled with some weak SOS, unwatchable FCS
opponent, a mid-major or two, and 9 to 10 can't-miss events. HUGE
improvement. Well...for the UTES anyway. The "perfection
questers'" seasons haven't improved, and with the loss of the Holy
War, may start their decline.Of course, a 2-for-1 would solve that.
Holmoe? Your move.
@DuckhunterYou are correct that Smith is no Manning.But
Smith just signed a new contract with the 9ers and beat out Kaepernick who
according to San Fransisco Chronicle the "49ers wanted so bad after [a]
workout, they traded up nine spots to the fourth pick of the second round to
take him Friday [2011 Draft], giving their second-, fourth- and fifth-round
picks to Denver."So I understand your hate for all things Utah
but try to do some research before giving us your opinion.Looking
for another great season from Smith. I was one who that he was a bust but glad
to see he turned things around after struggling.Go 9ers!!
@uteologyEverything I wrote is correct. If you'll remember
smith took a pay cut and a restructured contract instead of being cut. Yes he is
just happy to have a job because he was on the verge of being out of the
league.smith is in no way the equivalent of Peyton Manning. Why
would that statement be in the slightest bit controversial? If the 49er's
could have gotten Manning they would have kicked smith to the curb. Everyone
knows it, harbuagh knows it. I enjoy how delusional utah "fans" are. I
enjoy seeing how much they would rather deny truth than face facts. I understand
when I am the one that writes it then it provides a little extra sting for all
of you but that doesn't change the facts. smith is lucky to have a job and
harbaugh would take Manning over him in a heartbeat. Nothing to argue about,
that is simply the facts.
MLH,You're funny. Next time I'll use a different state.
Duckhunter:Smith had the 9th highest QB rating in the NFL. He was
most certainly NOT "on the verge of being out of the league". If the
49ers were to take on Manning, Smith WOULD have left San Francisco, and WOULD
have found another spot on another NFL team via free agency.worf:I went to high school for 2 yrs in South Texas. I've never met a
Texan that didn't know who or where Utah is. The most pathetic style of
trash talking are the ones where you don't have any barbs to strike with so
you either make up your own "facts", and/or lay down the "straw man
argument" in order to make your point[less]. Now if it is
indeed true that those in your social circle don't know who Utah is, then
all you're saying is that you hang out with some very stupid people.So which is it? Dumb friends? Or artificially manufactured anecdotal
evidence of the Pac-12 Utes' relevancy?
"Here in Texas, people know of BYU, but not the utes." - WorfDo you mean everybody in your ward, Worf?
Naval Vet,I'm not anti-ute. I just react to those few who
display so much bitterness to the Cougs. People here for the most part think
Utah and BYU are the same team, and ninety percent of the people I work with are
college grads. Most of the interest are with the Longhorns. I do want people
angry at my words, as it promotes researching, learning, and thinking.I did go to school in your area (Woodbury). Great place to learn American
Until BYU steps up their competition and joins a big conference, they are not
worth the U of U's time. I think the Utes should work a deal with USU with
a two-for-one at SLC, they are on the upswing in a conference whereas BYU is
roaming the desert thanks to their leadership. It could become the new State
rivalry. Personally, I think USU should ask for a home-and-home with BYU or
drop them from the schedule...I mean why should they accommodate them on a
three-for-one conference Friday deal? Who would agree to that now...Montana
Tech?All of my friends who are BYU fans hate the Indy thing. They
get terrible filler games at late start times. With conferences setting up
non-conference agreements (Big Ten and PAC Twelve), BYU will have even more
difficulty making a good schedule. They better hope the Big 12 comes calling or
the Big East. Otherwise, they will have to go crawling back to the MWC and
grovel before Craig Thompson. Either that, or join the Sun Belt, MAC, or C-USA.
Pride goeth before the fall--and what a terrible fall it is!
@naval vetNice attempt at distortion but as usual a failure for you.
I wasn't talking about this offseason, I specifically said smith was on the
verge of being out of the league and until last season he was on the verge of
being out of the league. The 49er's told him if he did't take a
restructuring of his contract, and a very steep pay cut, he was gone and his
pathetic perfomrance in the league up to that point would not have gotten him a
free agent contract with any team at all. Maybe a tryout, maybe.If
Manning had signed with the 49ers smith would have been gone this offseason but
he probably could have gotten a backup job somewhere else. Eveyrone knows smith
would have been gone so pointing out harbaugh's hilarious attempt to claim
otherwise is plenty accurate.Once again nice try at distorting the
point but you failed.
Troll,Re: smith is lucky to have a job.....You must be
thinking of Max Hall oh wait, Uncle Danny ran out of people who owed him favors
so he doesn't have a job. You can't possibly believe the
nonsense you spew.
@wildcatThat whole prediction you made about weber beating BYU in
basketball last season, then losing by 30 points, is still killing you
@proud ute (LOL!) as if that is something to be proud of.When all
yoiu have left is to call names you really don't have anything.LOL!
The demise of BYU football will continue. Guess that what happens when you lose
54-10 at home and quit half way through the game.
@DuckhunterGlad you are still happy about the Weber State win in
basketball. Proves how much you repect Weber State, and looking at their
strength of schedule, it was probably BYU's second or third strongest
quality win. I can admit when I am wrong, can you? Experience says no. I
predict Lillard to have a better NBA career than Jimmer--care to argue?Oh I forgot to congratulate BYU on their glorious comback win over Iona in the
play-in game, sure to be replayed on BYUtv and well worthy of record in the BYU
annals. Unlike BYU fans, I look forward and not bask in previous glory, bet you
have a video cassete of the 1984 "championship" team--Good for you!Maybe BYU can change their mascot to the Ducks--since they are
constantly ducking competition and rarely play a road game out of state unless
it is at a neutral field. Good luck with the "Green Light" games--LOL
unless you are a serious fan, and if that is the case, my deepest sympathies.
BYU Football 2012?--excitement she wrote!
"The demise of BYU football will continue. Guess that what happens when you
lose 54-10 at home and quit half way through the game."If ending
5 of the last 6 seasons ranked, including last year, is called "demise",
while going 4-5 in conference play and losing to a team that had 10 losses is
called "up and coming", then I think I'll stick with a program in
demise. The season is more than a single game, and a single game doesn't
determine the success of the season.
Riverton Cougar says "The season is more than a single game, and a single
game doesn't determine the success of the season." True, and keep in
mind that "success" to an independent is very different from
"success" to a conference team.For example, BYU ended the
regular season ranked 32 in the BCS list, but that is OK because success for BYU
is "exposure", not BCS participation. BYU certainly had exposure. Utah
views their first year in the conference as a success because they suffered huge
set back in losing their quarterback, yet they still had a chance to win their
division. Did the Colorado loss hurt? Sure, but as you point out, one game
doesn't determine the sucess of the season.The important thing
as fans is that we are happy with our team's direction. I am excited to
see how Utah does in its second year with a (hopefully) healthy quarterback all
season. And I am sure you are excited to see the exposure your team gets
through the season and the Kraft Fight Hunger Bowl.
If USC can keep their rival game why can't U?BYU is no Notre
Dame --even ND has slipped a few steps the last decade
Mr RockOn,What are you saying exactly?I strongly believe marriage is
between a man and a woman.And Utah is a man.
Justmythoughts "Interesting that Florida/Florida State play each other every
year...ditto USC/Notre Dame plus many other schools who are not in the same
conference."BYU is not Notre Dame. However, get BYU into a top
conference like the Big 12 and the legit bragging rights will stir again about
whose conference is better, like FL/FL State do. Then, Utah and BYU
will find a way to prove it on the field.
"Here in Texas, people know of BYU, but not the utes." - WorfEveryone in the real world know who the original BCS Busters are, especially
the BCS schools.
Isn't it interesting that BYU is trying to end playing teams like Idaho and
New Mexico State, and Utah is trying to add them? Within a year or two, BYU
will have fixed our November scheduling challenges, and Utah may be playing a
WAC like schedule in September.Naval Vet - would you really prefer
to watch Utah beat up on Idaho, than watching a BYU vs Utah game with a
thrilling end nearly 50% of the time? U already have room for one cupcake / FCS
team. Do you really want two or three cupcake games each year? I
recognize the PAC12 schedule is tougher than a MWC schdedule, but even keeping
BYU, your schedule is not in the same conversation as an SEC schedule, and not
even comparable to most Big 12, Big 10 or several of your peer PAC12 schedules.
USC, Oregon and Stanford routinely play a tough non-conference schedule.If the rivalry does end, I wish you well playing New Mexico St and Idaho
in September. I have no doubt that BYU can find another team to play in
September with a much higher profile than Utah.
worf,You're funny. Next time I'll use a different
state.Why you live in Texas, went to the Y spent four years in Utah
and now a authourity of football in Utah because Texas only know's BYU.
That's all you ever say.
CougFaninTX - Wow, that's good bait. I'll bite. Just exactly how is
BYU going to have their November scheduling fixed? It won't be by getting
home and home November series with any of the major conferences (PAC12, Big12,
Big10, SEC, BigEast, ACC). Are they replacing their November WAC with a
November ConfUSA?Hard to imagine that on such an old topic,
you've still got it wrong. Utah is not talking about never playing BYU
again. They've simply stated that scheduling may keep them from playing
Give it a rest Naval Vet,NOBODY is going to buy that Utah playing
BYU would "tarnish" Utah's schedule in the slightest.The runnin' Utes are runnin' scared.The ONLY reason the
Utes are thinking about dropping the Cougs from their schedule is because
you're finally starting to realize that you've bitten off far more
than you can chew and that continuing to play BYU guarantees lots of losing
seasons and no bowls for the Utes.
"The runnin' Utes are runnin' scared." -thesportsauthorityYou really think the Utes are scared of byu after winning 7 of the last
10 games and beating them last year 54-10? Really?
It's obvious which school needs which when you read the comments on here.
Utah fans seem to be fine with a "divorce". byu fans can't seem to
handle that. Utah has simply moved on. byu needs to do the same.
Please let it be over. Let the marriage end.Let BYU and U go their
own ways.Let the trolling stop.Let each to have their
"You really think the Utes are scared of byu after winning 7 of the last 10
games and beating them last year 54-10? Really?"ABSOLUTELY!That's the ONLY reason the Utes would even think of replacing BYU
with a D-1AA program like Northern Colorado.Losing PAC12 record +
loss to BYU = no bowl for U !!Everyone knows that your selective 7
of the last 10 record is meaningless; the only relevant record is the 4-3 record
head-to-head record during the Bronco-Kyle era, which will be even after this
@ LonestarRunner,Ding ding ding! We have a winner folks! You are the
first BYU fan on any sports board in this country to predict the delusional
probability of BYU beating Utah this year at RES. Congrats sir!First
of all, Utah loathes BYU, certainly not afraid in ANY capacity. Utah is
scheduled to play the rising USU program to 2017, skipping the 2014 game because
it is imminent that Utah will be scheduling a Big 10 team very soon. Utah has
interest in BYU anymore, nor do I.Utah needs a tune-up game, or two,
against a cupcake(s) in order to get younger players some game action previous
to our conference schedule, like many top programs do. BYU has to schedule half
their season against the worst teams in the nation so they can qualify for a
bowl game.BYU is old old old news! Utah will absolutely crush BYU on
9-15-12!!!!! I doubt BYU will score, actually. And, bone-headed Reilly Nelson
will be devastated again by the ruthless U D-line.I look forward
watching the scores of somber Y fans leaving RES during the 3rd quarter AGAIN!
Montana St. would have whooped BYU last year. BYU is on a path of
non-existence...........the boys that call all the shots in SLC will no longer
tolerate any further embarrassment. ESPN will dump BYU sooner than later. The
ratings have been atrocious to this point, at best. No wonder they(ESPN)
scheduled BYU's bowl game at 9am MST on a non-holiday
Friday.......competing with popular soap operas and Judge Judy. Heck, I was
watching MSNBC when BYU played Tulsa last December. Somebody had to tell me that
BYU accidentally won that game. Truthfully!
Honestly BYU fans, when Utah crucified BYU last year............during the 3rd
quarter I was screaming so loud at the incredible Utah plays that my current
world champion Chesapeake Bay Retriever went and hid in the bathroom.....she was
so alarmed. Life is good......except for my sweet doggy and most certainly BYU
fans......for sure! Another BYU crucifixion is imminent on 9-15-12. You know
it......WE DEFINITELY KNOW IT! Then, bye-bye BYU.
No matter how hard, or prolifically BYU fans pray for a victory against
Utah...........it will not help in the least. Utah is gonna curb-stomp BYU
again. I already purchased the popcorn.....and it will be-a-pop'n for sure!
@CougFaninTX"Isn't it interesting that BYU is trying to end
playing teams like Idaho and New Mexico State, and Utah is trying to add them?
"In a few years Utah's schedule will be 9 PAC-12 teams and
1 Big-10 team. That leaves two games left, one of which probably will be BYU or
Utah state. Is it unreasonable for Utah to schedule one garbage team a year?
@ atl134,You speak the truth sir. Utah is already contracted with
Utah State until 2017. They(USU) are a good team, and I like their program and
their fans as well. BYU is struggling beyond belief. It's kinda sad
actually. But, evolution has never taken any prisoners..........BYU is doomed.
Utah-Hawaii AlumYour hyperbole is amusing, but unfortunately,
totally divorced from reality...Bronco/Kyle eraTop 25
FinishesBronco 5Kyle 3Top 15 FinishesBronco 3Kyle 110+ Win SeasonsBronco 5Kyle 3LOSSES
to 10+ Loss TeamsBronco 0Kyle 2btw, I like Utah State
too, except for some of their boorish fans, but that "good" USU team you
pretend to think so highly of, hasn't finished in the Top 25 since 1972!!!
and has only had ONE winning season THIS CENTURY!!!Overall Records
During the Bronco/Kyle eraBronco - 66-24Kyle - 65-25Utah St -
24-60What's sad is the misguided arrogance of a fanbase that
has deluded themselves into believing that finishing 8th in ANY conference is
something special. The Trojans and Ducks are laughing at just how naive their
new little friends are.
Kiddles in the Park, Wow, that was hyperbole at its finest. Your
math is a bit off as Utah didn't finish 8th in the PAC 12 which you Y fans
try to push to no avail. I am glad to see BYU fan selective stats is still
taught to the Y fans as they pick an chose like no other. How about 2
undefeated seasons in 8 years? How about going to and dominating two BCS bowls
including a beat down of an SEC power? How about being liked enough to be asked
to join a BCS conference? How about having a far better bowl winning percentage
(one of the best) unlike the Y with one of the worst. Best of all 7 of 10,
54-10 and a dominant overall record against the Y; unless Y fan choses
particular timeframes which many of you Y fans like to do as the record on the
whole isn't much to write about, especially in this century. Go Utes and
BYU needs Utah more than Utah needs BYU now days. Utah is playing Pac12 schools
every week and having to play the Y is a step down - nothing to win type game.
BYU is to Utah what Utah State is to the Y. Utah STate fans get all amped up
with the game but Y fans just want to get it over with and have no injuries. The
ONLY way this situation changes is if the Y administration gets their heads on
straight and pushes hard for the BIG 12 conference. If the Y were to get into
the BIG 12 THEN both schools are back on equal footing again... but not until.
Facts are facts.
PebblesSorry, but by the real standards of success, NATIONAL
championships, NATIONAL rankings, and NATIONAL awards, Utah doesn't even
come close to measuring up to BYU's successNational
ChampionshipsBYU 1Utah 0Heisman TrophiesBYU 1Utah 0National Individual AwardsBYU 15Utah 0National College Football Hall of Fame (players)BYU 6Utah 0Top 25 FinishesBYU EIGHTEENUtah 7During the
Bronco/Kyle EraTop 25 FinishesBronco 5Kyle 3Top 15
FinishesBronco 3Kyle 1btw, head-to-head During the
last 50 yearsBYU 29Utah 21During the Bronco/Kyle eraBronco 3Kyle 4
Anti BCS (cuz your team isn't good enough to get to a BCS game nor invited
to a BCS conference) , again the selective stats, you Y fans are a funny bunch
for sure. I am glad Utah is taking its dominant record over the the kittens and
leaving them in the dust to wallow in there delusions of being relevant and
wanted. Your fabled NC was a joke. The Y beat nobody that was good that year.
No final ranked teams. Then barely beat a barely bowl eligible team. Due to
the rules at the time that had to award BYU the NC but they made sure that would
never happen again. BYU 84 would have got drilled by both 04 and 08 Utes who
played good teams (i.e. final ranked). Please keep thinking BYU was the best
team in 84 and I'll, with the rest of the country, will keep laughing.
@pebblesutah didn't play anyone that was any good in '04.
The pitt team they beat in the fiesta bowl was a joke and was widely panned by
just about everyone for even being in a bcs game. That wasn't even a good
try by you, just a giant fail. LOL!As far as '08 is concerned
utah did beat a few good teams, got very lucky to beat TCU and NM, and played a
completely disinterested alabama team that didn't care and didn't