Garbage by any other name still stinks as bad. They are still building a
system that will result in nearly the same thing. Now I would not
complain anymore if I was a UTE fan and will only complain as a Cougar fan
because we are still on the outside looking in - although closer.
I don't see much of a change. The top 4 is barely better than a top two.
Perhaps I'm still biased against the current process.
It should have been an eight or sixteen team playoff. More money, and who really
believes that it couldn't be set up to avoid missing school? December is
awash with time and the first week of Jan. could still host the finale.
Big money corrupts and the BCS monopoly is built on big money. They play a shell
game with the onlookers, but they still get the money. Education, integrity and
fairness take a back seat. Until we adopt the Ivy League mentality toward
athletics, things will not change.
The fact is, in the past there have been numerous instances (as outlined in the
article) of undefeated or one loss teams that have been left out of BCS games.
With this system we still have that drama, combined with an even greater source
of controversy: Who are the top four teams? We're going to be dealing
with the same subjective politics as before.That being said,
it's great to see that college football is moving in the right direction.
Hopefully this will eventually lead to an expanded 8-16 team playoff in the
future. We have to start somewhere though.
@BYU JoeI associate with a lot of Utah fans and I don't know a
single one who thinks the BCS is good. Just because we're part of it now
doesn't mean it's suddenly the right way to go.
Here's an idea to have traditional bowl games and also reduce the influence
of the pollsters in selecting the playoff teams. The 4 playoff teams should be
the winners of the:Rose Bowl: PAC12 vs Big10Sugar Bowl: SEC vs
Big12Fiesta Bowl: Conference Champ in top 12 vs Conference Champ in Top 12
Orange Bowl: Conference Champ in top 12 vs Conference Champ in Top 12*Fiesta/Orange bowls would have to select the 4 highest ranked conf
champ/indep teams ranked in top 12. A higher ranked independent team, such as a
ND or BYU would qualify as a Conf Champ and could technically push lower ranked
conference champs out if if their in the top 12.*For the Fiesta/Orange
bowls, at-large teams (non-conference champs) could only be chosen when there
are not enough qualified teams meeting the above criteria. The Fiesta
would always have priority for the highest available ranked team out West and
the Orange for the the highest available East team.
The fans knew it firsts! I read and listened to radio show hosts, journalists,
tv personalities praise the BSC while at the same time the fans were screaming
unfair and bogus. It took much longer for "media" to admit what they
knew deep inside. This new system, this fan knows, will still be
bogus. But I'll sit and wait for media types to praise it...again.
Things are changing, but the intent is to be more exclusionary. There is a lot
of money at stake, and sharing isn't part of the plan. Going to a 8 or 16
team playoff increases the "risk" of sharing money outside the circle of
the Big Four (PAC12, SEC, Big10, Big12). Even Notre Dame isn't getting the
special consideration that they once enjoyed.
Football has an unsolvable problem. Basketball has 7-game playoffs, so the
winner has prevailed over time. Football only has one-game, winner-take-all
tournaments, thus the results are statistically indefensible. Thus these
arguments will continue until the ACLU and the Tea Party join hands and sing
I really don't think this is much improvement at all. All this does is
create a "Big 4" group of conferences, instead of the previous big 6.
This article gives numerous examples of BCS injustice, but the new playoff will
not be any more equitable, and wouldn't have given justice to almost all of
those teams. What we'll see is this:Game 1: SEC vs. Pac 12
championsGame 2: Big 12 vs. Big 10 championsOr any other shuffling
of these four conference champions. Of course, this would have
allowed say, OSU to play Alabama this last year, instead of us all having to
settle for only the SEC rematch, but other than that, the MWC, C-USA, WAC, or
even the ACC and Big East are all getting left out this time around. Let's
us not kid ourselves, the only way there is a fair post-season for a national
title, is when there are enough bids to spread beyond the original big 6 and
half of the SEC.
It will still be the SEC in the end. Look at the top 4 teams from last year and
make an argument that the title game would not have been Alabama versus LSU. I
like the system we have and now it is even better. Even more of a chance for the
SEC to win national championships.
Kansas and Ohio State are the perfect examples of why this new 4 team
"tournament" is ridiculous. Both those schools struggled, in hoops, at
the beginning of the season...but used the season to get better, and both ended
up in the NCAA Final Four....right now, for 99% of the schools, one loss
eliminates you from this 4 team playoff. However, if you put in the top 8
conference champions and 8 at-large teams, you would certainly be getting the
best teams playing their best football. If D2 can do a 16 team
playoff (they're at 20 teams now aren't they?), why can't D1
figure this out? Because there's too much $$ that wouldn't be managed
by the large conferences, that's why. EVERYBODY knows a 16 team playoff
would be bring in so much more money....but the former BCS conferences
don't want that money going to others schools besides theirs....and hence,
we get stuck with a stupid four team playoff.
Malone is right. A 360 degree turn. Which, when executed, puts them going in
the same direction as when they started the turn.
This is an excellent and entertaining read, Doug. Unfortunately, the BCS powers
that be are without a conscience so even if they read this they wouldn't
feel any guilt or remorse. Your next article needs to be about the allegations
that the TV stations' contracts (or pending contracts) w/the "Big
4" conferences are requiring all schools be available for Sunday play, thus
automatically discriminating against BYU and apparently shutting them out of any
Big 12 invite.
"If D2 can do a 16 team playoff, why can't D1 figure this out?"In football, the teams ranked 14-15-16 have 3 losses. Adding teams that low
is just hoping for a Cindarella Story. I agree with you that 1 regular season
loss shouldn't end your title run. There is a pretty good chance that the
best team can be found ranked in the top 8 or top 10 at the end of the year.The BCS isn't any worse than what was in place before. It met the
goal of earning more money for the sport. If crowning a true champion is the
goal, consult with the NCAA. Interesting that they don't officially
recognize D1 football national championships. Such things are just the opinion
of AP Writers, Coaches, Computers, and fans.
Three of the teams in the 4 team playoff should come from the current BCS
conferences with the 4th team being the best team in the Independant Conference.
I once had a professor that said "I will flunk you on your paper if you
squeeze the margins, make the font bigger, or quadruple space paragraphs or
headers. It's all because you think I'm that stupid, not for any
other reason." These BCS goons, with all of their ridiculous
responses(which Doug quoted nicely) really think we're all "that
stupid". I know it's just a game, but to be played like fools over a
system that, again, Doug revisited perfectly, is the frustrating part. I'm
a cougar, but the Utes got the shaft. We'll never know how they could have
competed against the best because the computers and coaches made the decisions.
It really is more of the same with this new system. It should be 16 teams, at
least. Shorten the season if necessary. You know these old men are laughing
behind closed doors at how dumb we all are for not combining our voices to
demand a change sooner. Old men keeping the money for the "big boys".
I hope some day these clowns realize they will be mocked mercilessly for their
decisions and defense for this system.
Let say this as clearly as I can.....I Don't Care!If people would realize how silly it is to watch school teams bash their heads
out on the field, while grown men and women watch, the BCS would have never
existed. I am proud to say that I have never paid any attention to college
ball, and I gave up on pro ball when I was still very young. About the time I
matured a bit and realized there were better things to do with my time than sit
in front of the tube for hours on end each Saturday and Sunday. So
I will come out of the closet and make a totally clean admission....I also
cannot stand golf, I think basketball is as bad, baseball is even worse, and
bass fishing, to watch is the worst of them all......well OK, there is something
worse....watching grown men drive around a track 500 times.....that is worse.I will also admit that the one sport, is it a sport?, that I watched
when I was in junior high, was the PBA. Yes that is right, I spent time
watching Earl Anthony roll them strikes.
Doug, you're double-fisting the same poisonous Kool-Aid into your gob, and
belching the company line between gulps. Buuuuurp! This is a slap in the face
for college football fans outside the current BCS conferences, and you know it.
Nothing has changed. Not. One. Thing. With a four-team playoff in place, what
are the odds that one of those teams will *ever* be from a non-AQ conference?
You know the answer and the truth, but you side-stepped both with conviction and
How is this any different that the sham they have been perpetrating on the game
for years? It's still the same people controlling the big money games and
they will still see their sweethearts into those games, only now there will be
three of those games, in addition to whatever other big money bowl games they
still control. Until there is a system that allows a representative of every
conference to have a shot at the title, it is no different.
The new four-team play-off is going to be manipulated by the same dishonest
people who have been manipulating the BCS. If you think it will be better, you
are a dreamer. The only way a four-team play-off would improve upon the BCS
system is if there were four, very inclusive super conferences in which any D-1
school could choose to participate, who then had their own play-off system to
reduce their representation down to the one to participate in the National
Championship play-off. Better, would be eight semi-super conferences delivering
eight conference champions to an eight-team play-off. And best, would be
sixteen conferences, each delivering a conference champion into a 16-team
National Championship play-off. The important piece would be
"inclusiveness." Don't leave out anyone who wants to play, and
decide championships of conferences and of the nation on the field.
The problem isn't the BCS, per se; It's the NCAA. They are the
regulators of college athletics that everyone has bought into and they are the
ones that should determine playoff situations. They're clearly biased and
poorly run on the football front (just look at how they meted out justice at USC
and Ohio State), and no doubt in the back pocket of the BCS powers that be.The NCAA needs to man up and tell the BCS, "that's great that
you have your playoff. Now, here's ours, and here's why we think
it's a more equitable system that leads to better all-around
It's a baby step in the right direstion, but the BCS conferences are
already maneuvering. The SEC is advocating picking the four top teams,
regardless, which means winning your conference is not an issue. This is, in a
way, logical, but the SEC is self-serving, hoping to keep more slots open for
SEC teams, which end up highly ranked in part because they play each other.
Adding an out-of-conference strength-of-schedule component would help this, but,
in reality, we replace one set of controversies with another. Still, it's
a baby step in the right direction.
The NCAA basketball tournament started in 1939 with 8 teams ans is now 64.
First off, Old news, Robinson. Must be a really slow news day because this
article is several months too late.Secondly, the BCS has changed nothing.
These SEC presidents [that run the BCS] will STILL ensure that the SEC comes out
with as many "National Titles" as possible, and retains a lions share of
the BCS $$. The good ol' boys have simply placated a few naysayers.The ONLY way to ensure a true nation championship is to have a playoff between
ALL of the Conference champions from every D1 conference. No favortism towards
any conference. Anybody can fall, and anybody can win. The excitement would
build every week, and the Rose Bowl would be the perfect venue (on New Years
Day, as was historically done) for a game that could very well rival the Super
Bowl in its anticipation.
The NCAA basketbakk tournament started at 8 teams in 1939. Today we have over 64
teams. Look for the same from Football. The hole is in the dike.
This is a last ditch effort by the BCS to retain control. There is no way to
Justify Automatic Qualifiers anymore (actually the Big East and ACC have been a
joke for years.) This won't change much but is a step in the right
direction. Too bad all the smaller conferences have been gutted in the process.
FilmoreThree of the teams in the 4 team playoff should come from the
current BCS conferences with the 4th team being the best team in the Independant
Conference.Notre Dame is a good choice if they win thier games, the
other 3 aren't even close
BRAVO!! I got great delight out of reading this story. I am a HUGE football
fan. I never understood the whole college bowl selection process. It has
needed an overhaul for years. I believe having a playoff structure is the best
solution. Even if teams started playoff's shortly after Thanksgiving,
which may be difficult given end of semester finals. Let each conference
conduct a play-off to bring out their best, then work it across the regions
until you come to a national championship. Isn't this what March Madness is
all about for Basketball? And I'm not EVEN going into dabble into the
selection process for that!
All this is another teeny tiny baby step. Until we have a 32 or 64 playoff
system, will we ever have a true champion. They are holding onto their precious
monopoly and making a few tweaks here and there to try and make us believe that
they are making real changes. We'll get there, but probably take another
20 years at the rate they are going. Hopefully not. Now that there is a
playoff maybe, just maybe things will pick up steam, but I'm not holding
out hope since they have managed to stonewall for so long just to get to a