I don't really wish to comment on Mitt Romney or the issue of religion in
politics. For now, I just want to say thank you for being involved and
committed to voting. It's a rare thing for the 18-25 age group. As one on
the upper end of that bracket, I was disappointed to see so few of us at the
recent caucus. There were maybe seven of us in a room of seventy five to eighty
people. I fear that a great number in our age group try to get engaged in the
process, but become turned off by the incendiary rhetoric, the name-calling,
and the doublespeak coming from all sides. We can't give in to cynicism
and become non-participants, because there are many grave problems facing our
country that we will inherit. You mentioned one of the biggest issues in
reference to our national debt. Though it may seem unlikely, imagine if our
generation could be the one to say to our children, "We will not make you
pay for what we have consumed. Your birthright is not debt but
opportunity." But to do that we have to be involved.
When one believes in total delusion, yes..., Religion matters.
You won't need to convince many people here to vote for Romney. After all,
we are in Utah, and I wouldn't expect the state to vote any other way.
Where has Romney gotten a lot of criticism for being a Mormon? There have been
a few high-profile religious zealots make comments, but how does that translate
to "criticism"? In my opinion, persecution complex is very common here.
If someone were to vote against romney because he's mormon that would be OK
If a man lives his religion and if that religion teaches honesty, integrity,
hard work, and accountability, shouldn't that man be favored over a
candidate whose religion teaches class warfare, divisiveness, hatred and
intolerance?Look at Mr. Obama's actions during the last three
years. Can anyone say that spending a life-time listening to Marxist rhetoric
and spending twenty-years in Paster Wright's church did not influence Mr.
Obama? Mr. Obama has proven that you do what you think and you think what you
experience.We are not electing a religious leader, but we cannot
ignore the fact that every one of us is a product of the thoughts that we think
and the experiences that we live during our lifetime. We need to
look very carefully at the man, at the man's friends, at the man's
social activities, and at the man's religion. All of those things will
telegraph how the man will conduct himself when he sits in the Oval Office.No President changed his character just because he wore the mantle of
How many Utah residents would vote for a Unitarian candidate?
I grow tired of Utahns complaining about how some folks won't vote for Mitt
because of his religion.... In reality, how many Utahns will blindly vote for
him BECAUSE of his religion?It works both ways.Jessica,
what plans does Mitt have to offer that will help us? He plans to lower taxes on
the rich, privatize Medicare by giving them vouchers, and plans to GREATLY
increase defense spending. If Mitt had his way, he would have let thousands of
Americans go unemployed by not helping out the car industry. Then
again, we don't know if he would have done those things/intends on doing
those things. See Jessica, Mr. Romney changes his opinion every week
depending on who he is speaking to. He will do and say anything to be
elected.Do you really want that as President? He could say one thing
to your high school and then the complete opposite to your rival. Is
that the leadership we need?
@Mike Richards"If a man lives his religion and if that religion
teaches honesty, integrity, hard work, and accountability, shouldn't that
man be favored over a candidate whose religion teaches class warfare,
divisiveness, hatred and intolerance?"So you're attacking
Obama's faith? Treat others the way you'd like to be treated.
Romney will not repal obamacare, a bill he wrote by the way, or create jobs or
reduce the national debt. It will be as if Obama is still in office if this guy
is elected. All of his promises are 100% pure campaign rhetoric. Anybody who
votes for him or Obama will be sorry.
Let's see, the GOP Administration under Bush bombed to rubble a small
country that never attacked us and tortured who knows how many people. Homicide
and abuse? It's not the religion that scares me, it's the GOP
In Romneys case I hope the anti-mormon sentiment prevails because he is a
corporate puppet just like Obama is and as phony as a 3 dollar bill
re: atl134Using YOUR words, I'm "attacking" Mr.
Obama's choice of friends. I'm "attacking" Mr. Obama's
choice of clergy. I'm "attacking" Mr. Obama's choice of
ideology.Mr. Obama CHOSE to surround himself with friends who are
Marxists.Mr. Obama CHOSE to attend a church where the pastor
preached hatred. Mr. Obama CHOSE to stay in that church for
twenty-years.Mr. Obama CHOSE to appoint to his administration tax
cheats.Mr. Obama CHOSE to associate with Bill Ayers, a man who
bombed the pentagon.Those were Mr. Obama's CHOICES.I have held positions of leadership within the LDS Church. Part of my
responsibility was to council members of those organizations which I was called
to lead. Part of that responsibility was to hold members ACCOUNTABLE for their
choices and to remind them that although they had agency to choose their
actions, they did not have agency to choose the consequences to those
actions.Mr. Obama has chosen his actions. He has also chosen to
accept the consequences to those choices - whether he wants to face the
consequences or not.I CHOOSE to hold Mr. Obama accountable for HIS
All through the primaries the point was made that the Religious Right is
uncomfortable with Romney. Since it was made by the mainstream media, take it
with an enormous grain of salt. I'm an Evangelical, and the choice between
the Obama administration with its dreadful record on religious freedom (we all
remember the recent intrusion with the contraceptives and Obamacare, no?) or a
Mormon, who at least shares a good many of the values that Christians do, is a
no brainer.Evangelical Romney voter, right here.
@Anti Bush-ObamaYes, it's always best to cloak religious
bigotry in political terms. That way you can pretend it doesn't exist.
The more a person claims to be doing "God's will," the less we
should trust them.
Jessica, besides the Constitutional reasons, you can't frame a candidate in
terms of his religion otherwise you would have to condemn all LDSaints for not
living the 9th Commandment. My experience is that people are people in every
setting and the ones in this state hold no more or less Christian values than
any other place. I suggest you vote for people that will serve your best
@Mike Richards"Mr. Obama CHOSE to attend a church where the pastor
preached hatred. "And people could attack the fact that Romney
CHOSE to attend a church that (insert something here). So religious attacks on
Romney are okay in your book is what you're saying.
@Blue:Of course, the more a person does what's clearly against
God's will, the less we should trust them also.
David KingI agree whole heartedly. I am 24 and very involved in
politics. I think it's so much fun to be able to know what is going on. I
am not trying to toot my own horn, but it irritates me to see people around my
age who have no clue what is going on. There are important issues of the
day that we can help improve, yet so many people just don't care. As long
as they have an X BOX, cell phone, and a skateboard they are happy.
There is very great danger in setting a religious man in the position of
authority over your freedom. However, the danger is no greater than setting any
other strongly motivated man as your governing manager. The fact
that he wishes to be president and leader of the United States of America is
ample proof that he is a strongly motivated man. His actual motivation is not
so easily determined. There are probably many religious men who exhibit their
religion but hide their true motivation of greed. Religious leaders
of some churches are counseling their members to oppose and disobey our laws on
the basis of the members personal belief as learned from the church. If the person is a really religious person, he would obey the church instead
of our nation. And would administer the law as dictated by the church and not
as from the people of America.So we might end up with a Theocracy
instead of a democracy or a republic.
We are seeing untruths slide through Mitt Romney's lips every day. How does
that coincide with being an honest, God fearing, "save our nation"
individual?That questionable behavior is acceptable for Republicans
because Romney is "ultra religious"?
Roland, it would depend on the Unitarian. After all Thomas Jefferson was a
Unitarian and I think that I'd have voted for him. Millard Fillmore? Not
so much. As long as I agree with the candidates politics, I don't care if
they howl at the moon to worship. By the way, I'd never vote for Harry
@Meowbeast:Anyone who claims to know God's will is very
frightening. They are either deluded, psychotic, or attempting to use
psychological warfare to control other people for their own purposes.