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Rick Santorum beats Mitt Romney in Louisiana

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  • Roland Kayser Cottonwood Heights, UT
    March 24, 2012 9:26 p.m.

    In any state where the Republican primary voters are composed of 50% or more Evangelicals, Romney loses. In states where they are 49% or less, Romney wins. It looks like Evangelicals simply will not vote for a Mormon.

  • williary Kearns, UT
    March 24, 2012 9:35 p.m.

    Gotta love the DNews and their unbiased, unaffiliated “reporting!”
    Romney wins Illinois by 12 points and the headline is “Mitt Romney Routs Rick Santorum.”
    Santorum wins Louisiana by 23 points and the headline is “Rick Santorum beats Mitt Romney, still lags behind.”

  • williary Kearns, UT
    March 24, 2012 9:45 p.m.

    @Roland Kayser
    The Mormon card is working both ways for Mitt. For every vote he’s losing because of his religious beliefs, he’s gaining one on the other end. Truth be told, whether people here will believe it or not, Mitt’s record speaks for itself. He was a very moderate Governor, of a very Liberal state. That’s the record he accumulated in his only political stint. Everything else surrounding him is just speculation, wishful thinking. The fact is Rick Santorums’ views are much more in-line with most Conservatives in Utah. Yet, they are voting for Mitt only because of his religion. Can’t have it both ways. Can’t cry about losing votes because you’re a Mormon, when you’re getting votes for the exact same reason.

  • Riverton Cougar Riverton, UT
    March 24, 2012 10:57 p.m.

    williary,

    There's a big difference in voting FOR someone because of his religion and voting AGAINST someone because of his religion. One is because you have the same values and beliefs, as well as knowing he has high morals. The other is bigotry.

    Also, you said, "Can’t cry about losing votes because you’re a Mormon, when you’re getting votes for the exact same reason." Guess what? Only 2% of the U.S. population is Mormon, so I doubt he's winning because Mormons are voting for him because he's Mormon. Trust me, he losing A LOT more votes because he's a Mormon than he is gaining votes because of it.

  • Ben H Clearfield, UT
    March 24, 2012 11:20 p.m.

    Now, if I remember my history correctly in 1976 the GOP nomination was contentious, where on the other side of the isle, the Democratic nominee had a smooth path to the nomination. Ronald Reagan forced a contested convention, yielding the eventual nomination of Gerald Ford only if they made him, Reagan, the key-note speaker in the convention. It was a very selfish thing for Reagan to do. One of his few political mistakes. Ford burned a lot of money and energy to get nominated and had less in his treasure chest for the general election.

    The result was a Carter victory.

    This is not what Santorum, Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity want you to believe. They will have you believe that it was the philosophy of the candidate that is the most important qualification.

    However, I have studied every presidential election since 1920 and found that when there is an incumbent in office, the candidate who endures the most contentious nomination process has always lost. When there an open seat, fight all you want, and the results are unpredictable. But where there is an incumbent in office, play nice if you want to win.

  • A1994 Centerville, UT
    March 24, 2012 11:26 p.m.

    @Willary

    "Gotta love the DNews and their unbiased, unaffiliated “reporting!”"

    You'll notice at the top of the article that this story was done by the Associated Press, NOT the Deseret News.

    "The fact is Rick Santorums’ views are much more in-line with most Conservatives in Utah. Yet, they are voting for Mitt only because of his religion."

    Mitt Romney was a Bishop and a Stake President. I can assure you that most Utahns relate more with Romney than the suddenly born-again Santorum.

  • Gramajane OAKLEY, ID
    March 25, 2012 6:51 a.m.

    After seeing a video where Rick was so rude that he kept talking PAST his turn and used up Mitts turn though even the moderator tried to stop him and Mitt asked him to quit
    ---- I rather think Rick has shown he prefers a one man "debate"
    --- if I were Romney the only way I would agree is if the moderator had the power to turn off Ricks mike.
    I think Mitt has the fair play and integrity that it wouldn't be necessary for that on His own mike - but probably he would request it as I have always seen him act like a gentleman.

  • deep in thought Salt Lake, UT
    March 25, 2012 7:15 a.m.

    @ Williary

    News flash: The DN is likely the only LDS friendly, mostly conservative paper in the world. If you don't like it's reporting style, then read the Trib, or better the Huffington post.

    It boggles my mind that you spend so much time reading the articles looking for something to complain about when it is obvious you dislike everything Mormon and conservative.

    Don't go to a candy store - full on knowing it is a candy store - and then complain that they sell too much candy. It is silly.

  • Cats Somewhere in Time, UT
    March 25, 2012 7:33 a.m.

    It's not just religion. Romney is more qualified. Like Obama, Santorum has NO executive experience. That's one of the reasons we're in the mess we're in. Santorum is a lightweight. We need real leadership.

  • nrajr SANDY, UT
    March 25, 2012 8:04 a.m.

    Has anyone done a legitimate survey of LDS church members to find out how much support is out there for Romney simply because he is "Mormon"? While I am sure that there are those out there who will vote for Romney for that reason, I personally haven't met any. I know of a few Mormon Obama supporters and more than a few Ron Paul supporters. The Mormons I know who are voting for Romney are doing so either because if they believe he has the best chance of beating Obama or they believe that he has the best chance of turning the economy around.

  • nrajr SANDY, UT
    March 25, 2012 8:10 a.m.

    I take issue with the assertion that Santorum's views are more in line with the Mormon values than those of Mitt Romney. Santorum is a social conservative and that is the limit of his conservatism. During a 2005 NPR interview, Santorum discussed what he called the 'libertarianish right' within the Republican Party, saying

    'they have this idea that people should be left alone, be able to do whatever they want to do. Government should keep our taxes down and keep our regulation low ... Well, that is not how traditional conservatives view the world, and I think most conservatives understand that individuals can't go it alone...'"

    Senator Santorum consistently voted for big government and government controls. He has demonstrated a fiscal irresponsibility more in line with the liberal left than traditional Republican values.

  • UtahBlueDevil Durham, NC
    March 25, 2012 8:14 a.m.

    "Mitt Romney was a Bishop and a Stake President. I can assure you that most Utahns relate more with Romney than the suddenly born-again Santorum."

    And yet if blacks vote for Obama for the same reason, they are voting out of ignorance. Can the same be said for my fellow LBS? I do think what you said is a valid reason to lean toward a candidate, I just wish the same consideration and respect was extended to other groups.

  • Joey D WEST VALLEY CITY, UT
    March 25, 2012 8:41 a.m.

    The most important thing to remember, Either Santorum or Romney or Gingrich or even Ron Paul would be a better president than Obama and don’t let us forget it!

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    March 25, 2012 9:07 a.m.

    If you're running for preacher in chief you gotta get a little crazy on.

  • LetsDebate PLEASANT GROVE, UT
    March 25, 2012 9:34 a.m.

    Williary - the only speculation about Romney is by those who really aren't paying attention. Besides his stint as governor, he also has a well-documented track record of leadership and volunteerism with the Olympics, Bain Capital, and church service. There's no question he has the Midas touch.

    Also, anyone who thinks the number of anti-Mormon votes he's losing is equal to pro-Mormon votes he's gaining must be absolutely clueless about the balance (or, rather imbalance) of those numbers. I think with the exact same background and record, Romney would have laid this primary to rest long ago if he belonged to any traditional mainstream religion.

    I do agree with you about the headlines. Although AP may have written the stories, I'm pretty sure DN creates the headlines for them.

  • FairchildIV Salt Lake City, UT
    March 25, 2012 9:50 a.m.

    @WIlliary, @LetsDebate

    Having previously worked for DNews, The AP stories come across with pre-written headlines that are not edited by the DNews staff. Obviously, any story that is written by a DNews staff member has DNews written headline, but the wire stories aren't edited. The only edits that might be made would be SEO edits (SEOs basically making something more google friendly, foe example changing 'Santorum defeats Romney' to 'Rick Santorum defeats Mitt Romney'. This makes is so that there are more key words to link it to a google search)

  • Demosthenes Rexburg, ID
    March 25, 2012 10:17 a.m.

    If Santorum and Gingrich were men of honor, they would bow out for the good of the cause over the stroking of their own egos.

  • Conner Johnson
    March 25, 2012 10:58 a.m.

    The great people of America will not stand for another Republican/Conservitive/Red/GOP president. The reign of terror set forth upon our nation and the world by George Bush and the republican party will have to wait four more years (hopefully longer!!) to take the white house. Obama will pick apart any candidate like minced meat in the debates, just you wait. And why does Romney hate ObamaCare? didn't he... ahem... start the healthcare movement in Mass.?

  • Andermart Pullman, WA
    March 25, 2012 11:52 a.m.

    I am LDS and will vote for Romney. If Huntsman and Romney were in the finals of the race together I would vote for Rommney. If Santorum were LDS, and Romney were Catholic, I would vote for Romney. See the trend? We need Romneys skills and leadership.

  • JWB Kaysville, UT
    March 25, 2012 12:46 p.m.

    Thanks goodness the Romney people are speaking in this forum with conviction and reality, whether in Utah or other states in this great United States of America. We have gone from a country that was respected to a country our current President has taken us down a road to disrespected and our own people are becoming dissatisfied. U.S. Constitution needs to survive so our nation can live. Congress needs to do work and not sit on the side of a President that is not doing the right.

  • mytymouse09 SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    March 25, 2012 1:51 p.m.

    I'm more than a bit confused why Paul and Gingrich don't leave the race already -- must be they love the limelight.

    @ConnerJohnson -- the so called "reign of terror" you accuse President Bush of spear heading pales in comparison to what Obama has done to our country -- internally and externally. I suggest you, and other Obama supporters,do some homework and read The Roots of Obama's Rage and The Anti-American President Barack Hussein Obama, and see what illegal, immoral, ridiculous things Obama has done to our country. You may rant that both of these books have false information in them, but both actually use Obama's own words to make their point. I just hope and pray Obama gets defeated and will not subject our wonderful country to four more years of insanity.

  • CHS 85 Sandy, UT
    March 25, 2012 2:58 p.m.

    @mytymous09

    How many friends did you lose in an endless war? How many friends did you know that died in Iraq looking for non-existent WMDs?

    The first word in life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness is LIFE. The previous administration wasted more American lives in their endless wars that President Obama ever dreamed of.

    I'd rather have insanity than death and destruction any day.

  • DSB Cedar Hills, UT
    March 25, 2012 3:44 p.m.

    @CHS 85 - you do realize, don't you, that Obama continued the war in Iraq for nearly 3 years? And, that we continue to fight in Afghanistan, despite the fact they will probably never be trustworthy or eradicate the Taliban. I haven't seen that Obama has stopped what you call "endless wars," or that there is any less "death and destruction" as you like to characterize it. Just a President you agree with instead of one you don't.

    I'd rather have sanity than insanity, if death and destruction are included anyway.

  • mytymouse09 SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    March 25, 2012 3:46 p.m.

    @CHS 85, the search for "non-existent WMDs" conducted due to information Bush's administration received, and later acknowledged none were found -- doesn't prove they didn't exist. I'm saddened by lives that were lost in Iraq, as well as in any war, also in the terrorist attack on American soil on 9/11, driving President Bush to do his best to prevent further attacks. Apparently you have lost loved ones in Iraq, and I'm sorry for that, but the decisions this current administration is making has negatively impacted our country, and will worsen if he is re-elected. Our country is terribly in debt (which more than doubled since Obama became president -- so don't blame Bush for our debt), our military has been reduced (lowering our security), Obama has humiliated our country and his office (bowing to enemy leaders -- pictures available proving my claim), his ever increasing vacations, etc. If you're not concerned for the future of our country, which could bring destruction you want to avoid, I'm sorry. I am concerned for the future of my children, grandchildren, and beyond who will possibly be stuck with the repercussions of his decisions.

  • UtahBlueDevil Durham, NC
    March 25, 2012 4:29 p.m.

    "We have gone from a country that was respected to a country our current President has taken us down a road to disrespected and our own people are becoming dissatisfied."

    I am sorry, are you saying that under Bush this country was respected more for starting two wars that it had no clue how to end? This just made me giggle. We went from a world to where the dollar and the Euro were at near parity, to the point that you needed more than $1.50 to by a single Euro, and nearly 2 buck to buy a UK Pound.

    Makes you wonder if the person who wrote that ever even looked at a poll regarding US respect over seas. I recommend anyone who has questions look it up and not believe the radio and internet "the sky is falling" crowd.

  • xscribe Colorado Springs, CO
    March 25, 2012 6:21 p.m.

    Oh, the Romney Kool-Aid is flowing mightily. I wonder what the posts would be like if it were Santorum leading the delegate count and Romney was trying to catch up??

  • donn layton, UT
    March 25, 2012 6:24 p.m.

    Re: LetsDebate, the only speculation about Romney is by those who really aren't paying attention. Besides his stint as governor, he also has a well-documented track record of leadership.
    Two big reasons , Born again(born from above) Christians and conservatives have not to vote for Romney.
    1. The right to Life… is grounded in the Christian Faith, see Psalm 139 :13-15,Also….(Jesus) Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least(elachistos Grk,1646 can mean a baby) of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.(Mt 25:40). Yet Romney changed his position on abortion ,I thought Mormonism was pro-life.
    2. White House senior adviser David Plouffe on Sunday labeled Mitt Romney the “godfather” of President Barack Obama’s healthcare law.

  • LetsDebate PLEASANT GROVE, UT
    March 25, 2012 10:48 p.m.

    @donn

    Wow - thanks for confirming to us all why we should never elect a hard-core Evangelical president.

    Are Mormons pro-life? I think the answer to that is unquestionably yes, and I highly doubt that Mitt Romney tolerated convenience abortions as a Bishop or Stake President, no matter what he may have said to get votes in Massachusetts. Do you have any evidence that Romney facilitated abortions through any administrative decisions while Governor? Santorum has also said he was fully pro-choice until he ran for public office as a Republican, so I suppose it's possibly he's not as ideologically pure as he claims to be. Reagan also changed his position on abortion. I'm guessing you're only outraged at Romney's change of heart on this matter.

    How surprising that White House staff are portraying Romney as the godfather of their health care plan. Yeah - no politics or ulterior motive by the White House, as long as those listening are insanely gullible.

  • donn layton, UT
    March 26, 2012 2:36 p.m.

    Re: Lets Debate,donn Wow - thanks for confirming to us all why we should never elect a hard-core Evangelical(euangelion=Gospel,2098) president. See (John3:16) Christians are pro Gospel.

    Romney had taken positions in Massachusetts that were anathema to the conservative base, particularly on abortion and gay rights. Running against Ted Kennedy in 1994, Romney had declared himself a supporter of a woman's right to choose on abortion, and claimed he would do more for gay rights than Kennedy. Then he changed positions on abortion. A year before he launched his presidential candidacy, he tried to explain his evolving views to several Washington Post reporters.
    Times reveals that: Romney’s attempt in 1994 to “out-Kennedy Kennedy” during a Senate race led him to take stands on issues like abortion and gay rights that he has since backed away from, giving rise to accusations that he is a flip-flopper.

  • awsomeron Waianae, HI
    March 26, 2012 8:18 p.m.

    The Fundamentalist are Not going to Vote for Romney in huge numbers, what they may do is Vote for a Romney and Santorum Ticket.

    Romney is Mormon which kill the romance for some right there. He is Not Mormon Enough for other (like myself) and appears somewhat liberal and pro choice.

    I just want Abortion Stopped by any Legal means possible. Also the Illegal Emergent problem at least contained.

    I don not care within reason just how that happens just that it happens. Also Health Care as it is Now written. That issue is at least in the Courts.

    Undo the damage that Obama has done and expand the Military by 2 or 3 Divisions so people are not over deployed and lose their minds.