I can remember when Utah had some pretty good basketball teams!! Oops.......I
was thinking of the JAZZ!!! Good luck in the NIT if you get in
Not quite ready for prime time this year. Hard to lose a Jimmer and bring in 9
freshmen and use 5 of them. All teams lose players to injury, but Rogers and
Collingsworth would have helped. Still a pretty good year at that.
Would be shocked if the cougs get in. Most likely Gonzaga and Saint Mary's.
BYU stumbled? I think they were beaten by a better team and really shouldn't be
included with the invited teams to NCAA tournament. That's one of the risks of
playing as an independent or in a small conference where two teams are clearly
BYU still makes the tourney. Utah fans will wait for the moment when they can
post a message about yet another BYU game.Gonzaga came out on fire
and BYU came out flat. It happens. I'm hoping for a 10-12 seed with a decent
first round matchup.Basketball in March. One of the best things in
sports if your team gets there.
@Ornery Code"I can remember when Utah had some pretty good
basketball teams!! Oops.......I was thinking of the JAZZ!!! "You
must have read the wrong article, this was about BYU not Utah.As
stated before, NIT Bound.
@ Ornery Code"I can remember when Utah had some pretty good
basketball teams!! Oops.......I was thinking of the JAZZ!!!"Obviously you have short term memory. You only remember the post Majerus
era.Conference Championships: 36NCAA tournament appearances:
27Sweet Sixteen appearances: 15Elite Eight appearances: 5Final
Four appearances: 4NCAA Runner Up: 1NCAA National Champions: 1AAU Tournament Champions: 1NIT Champions: 1You said
"I can remember when Utah had some pretty good basketball teams!!
Oops.......I was thinking of the JAZZ!!!" So this may help your
Any time you win twenty five games, you've done well. Better than losing twenty
BYU is without question a bubble team. Their fate rests in how many conference
tournament upsets occur. For every bubble team or out-of-nowhere team that wins
their tournament, BYU's odds of getting in drop that much lower.I
predict BYU will be an NIT team (Sorry, Honor Code, the tournament selection
committees don't hate BYU as much as you think) and in my opinion, that will be
a good thing. This season I'd rather see a Cougar go three or four
rounds deep into the NIT than a Cougar team which ends up one-and-done in the
big dance.@ersorenson You said - "That's one of the
risks of playing as an independent or in a small conference where two teams are
clearly the best."And if there's one team which is learning
about the risks of moving to a new conference, it's the Utes. That's
not intended as a dig. This season I've been willing to give the Ute basketball
team the benefit of the doubt, not just because they're in a new conference, but
because they have a new coach who practically had to re-build a team from
@News For UJust as an FYI, as long as Ute fans continue to reminisce
about their glory days, BYU fans will do the same thing.
Thank you D-News for posting only those comments you like and agree with!
BYU got Jimmered by Pango.
News For UYou obviously need a little work on your selective
memory.Post Majerus/Current Dave Rose eraConference
ChampionshipsBYU 4Utah 1NCAA Tournament appearances: BYU 5Utah 1(Utah's 27 appearances will soon be eclipsed by
BYU, which already has 26 appearances)NCAA Tournament wins:BYU
3Utah 0Sweet Sixteen appearances:BYU 1Utah 0National Player of the Year:BYU 1Utah 0John
Wooden Award WinnersBYU 2 (Danny Ainge 1981, Jimmer Fredette 2011)Utah 1 (Andrew Bogut 2005)btw, there are only SEVEN schools with
multiple John Wooden Award winners; only TWO schools that have won more John
Wooden awards than BYUDuke(5), North Carolina(4), BYU(2), St.
Johns(2), Texas(2), UCLA(2), and Virginia(2 - Ralph Sampson)The list
of schools that have won both a Heisman Trophy and a John Wooden Award is even
There are a couple of areas BYU could improve on, irrespective of raw talent:1. Rebounding: BYU was a FAR better rebounding team in the first half of
the season than they are the 2nd half of the season. The first half of the
season BYU out-rebounded almost every team they played but now even the weak
teams are beating us on the boards. Is it because of Rose's emphasis on
transition or is it because BYU is playing more zone defense in the latter half
of the season? I don't know. Abuo seems to be the only one hitting the offensive
boards, whereas, earlier in the year all of our bigs were pounding the offensive
boards really well. I think rebounding is an area where the players have gotten
lazy over the course of the season and has had a significant impact in games.(continued below)
2. Foul shooting: in conference losses, BYU has shot miserably from the foul
line (much much lower than their 70% average) and not getting nearly as many
attempts as their opponents (esp in the WCC). Poor foul shooting has cost us
some games.3. Turnovers. Opposing teams are capitalizing on our
turnovers much better than we are on theirs. There is no question that BYU is
getting sloppier with the ball than mid season.
B.Y.U. missed early shots and dug a deep hole and a good team like Gonzaga
capitalized on our mistakes and won the game. To put this in perspective to you
trolls who think that the state of Utah had some pretty good basketball teams
this B.Y.U. team is one of 8 teams to win 25 games + in 5 consecutive seasons.
This list includes Gonzaga and St. Mary's so we are in pretty good company.
Coach Rose deserves tremendous credit for losing the Jimmer and Emery from a
team that scored 81 points a game and went to the sweet 16 to bringing in new
talent with a scoring average of 79 points a game as well as another 25 win
season and a possible NCAA or definite NIT bid. All in all our season is not
over yet since we will still be playing basketball after all the conference
tournaments are finished.
Clearly, the Cougs are now, at best, a 50/50 proposition as regards the NCAA
tournament; however, 25 wins count for a lot, and it can't hurt to have a
national fan base that guarantees ticket sales no matter where they go. I'm
hoping they end up where Joe Lunardi had them originally--in Albuquerque as a
twelve seed playing Notre Dame.
BYU is a bubble team. Recason for cougars fans to be hopeful: many bubble teams
make it to the dance, the comittee will take in their recent success, those
silly "play in" games which include some of the 12 seeds, and their win
over Oregon.BYU, with an RPI between 45-50, is likely to get an 11
or 12 seed, but it will depend on the conference championships and any "less
deserving" squads getting an auto bid. For BYU, things such as Cal winning
the PAC-12 tourney will help.Personally, I think BYU should be in,
but except for possibly winning that play-in game, they will probably be
one-and-done. That's not a knock on BYU, that realistic, and for sure that's
better than not being there and/or losing 25 games as worf would say. ======BlueCoug said:"You obviously need a little work on
your selective memory.Post Majerus/Current Dave Rose eraNCAA
Tournament appearances: BYU 5Utah 1NCAA Tournament
wins:BYU 3Utah 0Sweet Sixteen appearances:BYU 1Utah 0"Don't we all need some work, BlueCoug? For you see, in
the "post Majerus era," the Utes have two tourney appearances, two
tourney wins and a sweet sixteen (Ray G and the 2005 Utes). Further,
Bogut, as a sophomore, was the AP POY and Wooden winner in 2005. Although he was
recruited by Majerus, those accolades occured after the so called Majerus era.
If you don't think that matters, recall several well repected recent BYU players
were not recruited by Rose, even though you count them as the Rose era.And it's true, BYU is closing in on tieing Utah with tourney appearances, but
they are no where near the Utes in actual tourney wins, which I see you've
chosen to leave out.In the end, "Selective Memory" can
strike anyone, even Oremites.
MiPThe Utes only have one NCAA tourney appearance during the Dave
Rose era, 2006 to 2012, and zero NCAA tourney wins.
Uteanymous said:".....The Utes only have one NCAA tourney
appearance during the Dave Rose era, 2006 to 2012, and zero NCAA tourney
wins."And the Cougs will not be playing for the WCC title. It
was the refs fault. They allowed Gonzaga to get a great start and made sure BYU
was out of the game early. How dare them! Demand that they cease control over
BYUs poor shooting and lousy play.
In other news, the u trolls will be watching from mom's basement with nothing
more than a hope that BYU loses.
UpinthenightYou're welcome to your misguided hyperbole, but the refs
didn't have anything to do with BYU's sluggish start. Gonzaga simply came out
with more fire to start the game.