Missionaries permitted to proselyte since 1986 without recognition
This a wonderful display from the Hungarian government. I hope eventually all
governments will eventually understand that the LDS Church is certainly a
worldwide ally in the cause for peace, helping those in need, and all other
forms of helping our fellow human beings.
It won't last there very long ... not once the educated get a hold of it.
Get a hold of it and start googling it.
Re: LValfre 1:06 p.m. Feb. 28, 2012"Formal recognition gives
churches tax-free status, qualifies them for government support and allows them
to collect donations during services and do pastoral work in jails and
hospitals,"The LDS Church continues to grow around the world.
This is great news for the saints in Hungary.
Great news when the LDS Church gets any sort of recognition. Living in a place
where we are the minority makes it even more understandable of any type of
encouragement. The cynical comments from Chicago are not that cute. The LDS
church does not force itself on any one.
@midwestreader, Did you google it and read the original documents?
Nevermind non-LDS literature but the real books from the beginning and compared
them to the current? I doubt it.
Hungary is trying very hard to become a open society after decades of Soviet
oppression. An open attitude toward faith is a very good start and will bring
in all sorts of aid to their population. Yes, I have Googled and read a lot
about their history and politics. In my career as an educator, I have a
interest in knowing all of the facts. I find it doubtful that there are really
any real certifiable experts that have read this article. People may claim to
be, but in my experience, I have found very few experts in any field.
LValfre,Have you read the Book of Mormon? Do you know what the
Joseph Smith Papers project is?In my experience, the LDS Church has
shown a firm commitment to the highest standards in all it's archival work,
record keeping, and so on. In my experience, no credible claims have ever been
made against the truthfulness of the LDS Church or it's teachings. While I've
seen many crafty speculations, I've never found anything that could not be
explained rationally.We all have our own lives, our own experiences,
and our own knowledge of the events in our lives. No matter how much googling
one can do and no matter how skilled and intelligent debate may exist around my
experiences- they belong only to me. Nothing can negate what I've experienced.
Nothing can negate Joseph Smith's claim. You can either disbelieve it, or
experience the same thing for yourself. But saying that other people are wrong
is unreasonable.There is a difference between saying 'you are wrong'
and 'I am right'. Someone claiming they have the truth can possibly be telling
the truth. While saying 'you are wrong' supposes more than your own experiences.
"I saw this. I know this" is subjective. "You didn't. You are
wrong." is making an objective claim about the subjective and is logically
L Valfre don't you think the rest of us here in America have Googled the LDS
Church? Yet, we can pick out the garbage from the truth. The people in the
early Church were not perfect, in fact, many were confused or malicious in their
attacks on the Church yet the Church survived. Silly remarks such as you have
made cannot, no - they will not change the testimonies of the Hungarian saints.
What makes you think that the educated ones did not join the Church? Do you
think Hungarians are a backwards, illiterate society? I sincerely beg to
differ. I have a college education and I was born in Hungary. Yet, I am a
Mormon. I joined the Church of Jesus Christ of LDS in 1970. Please don't insult
us with your uneducated remarks.It is so wonderful to hear about
Hungary. God does His work in His own time and it's just perfect.
Re: LValfre"Did you google it and read the original documents?
Nevermind non-LDS literature....."If I wanted to know about the
Catholic Church I would read their literature and not that of an apostate group
with an axe to grind.There are those who believe everything they
Google must be 100% accurate but most of us know better.