Bob Bennett certainly has the gift of stating the obvious.
When the so-called tea party jetisoned Bennett, it not only doomed itself, it
set the whole Republican Party on the road to failure.Of course, the
threat of left wing extremism is both severe and relentless. However, the
decision of the tea party to respond with equal extremism on the right is not
the correct choice.We must have moderation and prudence in politics.
Indeed, the Founding Fathers intended for this Country to be ruled by moderate
statesmen. The proliferation of extremist politicians dishonors everything the
Fathers fought for.
Bob Bennett continues to live in his Senatorial fantasy world, where the
"elits" are annoited with power and the stupid people who elected them
are to be manipulated.Sorry, Bob, your pontifications are no longer
valued, and we hope you are enjoying your involuntary retirement. Please give
Orrin Hatch some tips on how to make the transition less bitter and resentful
than yours has proven to be.Obama may well win, but it will be
through political chicanery and duping the easily fooled into voting for him,
not by any real or imagined deficiency in the Republican nominee. Heck, even
Bob Bennett would be a better President than Obama.
I think it was disgraceful the way Bob Bennett was treated.
Unique. Not better. And my fear is that future elections will be more 'unique'.
" Among Democrats, 47 percent said they would not vote for a Mormon,
compared to 23 percent for Republicans."So much for 'Right
Wing' extremism. The left wing in this country is anything but tolerant. As for Bob Bennett, you said you would run for two terms and you tried
for four. What did you THINK would happen eventually?
I disagree that "the biggest loser will be the LDS Church". In many
cases even bad news or negative press can have a significant up-side. Those
individuals who are the biggest purveyors of lies and falsehoods are not folks
we expect to ever win over anytime soon, if ever. Sadly many who fall for their
lies and falsehoods are the real victims. Indeed there are far too many of the
latter. Where there is hope in all the lies and falsehoods is a significant
number of folks who hear and say to themselves "what is the REAL
truth?". "It can't actually be as bad as we are being told".
Folks in this latter group are then motivated to seek out the REAL truth.
Please, there is no war on religion. What it is is two things. First,
religions continue their wars with each other. Mormons getting into the same
political bed with Southern Baptists is a bad, bad idea. Then there is
Santorum, who states his religious views and expects everyone else to fall in
line, another form of religions fighting amongst themselves. This leads to my
second point, that churches are out there beating their chests about this or
that, sometimes extreme views, and the public is having a negative reaction.
They are intolerant of other religious positions. Churches want their views
enforced by government and religious views they don't like banned. They
effectively want a state sponsored church. Yes, there are some out there who
battle against religion generally, but 98% of the problems are self-inflicted by
the various churches, particularly those who are dipping their toes into
The voters could find unique quality in the upcoming 2012 elections if the
candidates could talk about the issues that plague the average
American......lack of jobs, housing/mortgage failures, perks for wealthier
Americans. taxes, education. healthcare.What is the constant Republican
message at this time: Make Obama a one term president.Contraceptive
issues are of massive importance!
Bennett was a better senator than Hatch. Lee is a kook. We need someone who will
work with the other party, not ridicule and villify themsich as Lee and Hatch.
When have you ever heard President Obama say about a republican, that they hate
this country or want to destroy it?, Obama has reached out to work with the GOp,
but has gotten a cold shoulder ever since his election. This is not your fathers
republican party. "There is something especially rancid about the never
ending efforts to turn President Obama into a stranger, an alien, a manchurian
candidate, with a diabolical hidden agenda" Bennett didnt act like an
extremist, and its too bad for his party.
CatsAre you serious? The year that he was defeated, he came down to
Snow College for one of my classes and spoke (before he was ousted). I asked
him a couple questions about things he was doing. He told me I was just a dumb
college student who didn't understand the world of politics. I am glad he
was treated the way he was treated. He was rude, ignorant, and prideful.
The obvious problem that no one is willing to state is that the vast majority of
LDS members self-identify as conservative Republicans and vote as a solid
Republican block. It's ironic that up until the 1950s, the spectrum
of political affiliation of LDS members ranged across the board. This started to
change during the cold war and accelerated as extremely conservative and
political church leaders like Ezra T. Benson began espousing the dangers of the
Democratic party and it's leaning towards liberal thinking and ideals.In the 2012 Nevada Republican caucus, CNN reported that 88% of LDS voters
voted for Romney. If Romney wasn't the nominee, Most LDS voters would still
probably vote for a Republican nominee, as they did for George W. Bush in 2000
and 2004. The message to non-Mormon voters and especially Democratic voters? If
you are LDS you not only solidly identify with the Mormon candidate, but with
the Republican party, seen of course as the opposition to Democrats who support
causes dear to their hearts like protecting Social Security, Medicare and a
woman's right to choose.Until Mormons feel comfortable identifying
with and voting for non-Republican causes and candidates, Mormonism will
continue to be viewed by outsiders as suspicious, and at worse as dangerous.
Interesting article, glad it got reported. Hearing speakers 'wax eloquent'
fills in a lot of gray areas. And every man has his own opinions, and
agenda...I've lived in California 52 years, Idaho for 8, and Utah
while at "The Y". I've seen good and bad in all communities,
prejudice and ignorance, profound sacrifice and humanitarian service- as most
people on this planet discover eventually. No one has a corner on the matket of
sainthood, but honest people make the best communities by far.It is
unfair and disingenuous to try and make one side or the other be the all-evil or
all-saintly in this life. But being completely honest is threatening to some,
but kudos to the honest who will discuss it.In the dialogue on
religious differences, I feel it would be good to educate the ignorant on the
other's doctrines. All religions believe in some kind of charity, giving and
service. The difference lies in what your beliefs in salvation are. So I
suggest that we all get past the back-patting and glad-handing, and own up to
our varying doctrinal teachings and history. When I see that in a conference on
this topic, then I'll attend. Let the whining cease and the honesty
begin. That's the only nexus for true communication.
2nd tryThe marriage of politics and religion several years ago has been
damaging to both. It is not surprising more Americans, particularly the youth,
are choosing to remain unaffiliated. When politicians use religion they appear
hypocritical, judgmental, and smug. Often the "war" over social
issues involves demonization.Additionally, the many scandals involving
religious leaders further exacerbates the disaffection. The
Republican Party today doesn't resemble the party that produced Reagan.
Republicans have painted themselves into a corner, held hostage by its more
I'm always so amused by Bennett's self-characterizations - "excommunicated
by the GOP?" Come on, Bob. It had nothing (very little) to do with your
politics. Instead, you were old (77) and couldn't retire gracefully. This year
the same matter - Orrin Hatch (78) - faces us again. We have another old man who
just thinks life cannot go on without him in the Senate. He will be summarily
dismissed at convention, just like you were.
@Truthseeker"The Republican Party today doesn't resemble the
party that produced Reagan. Republicans have painted themselves into a corner,
held hostage by its more extreme elements."You will probably
remember (or hopefully have researched it) that Ronald Reagan wasn't exactly a
favorite of the GOP establishment. He changed the party, at least for a while.
To understand the conservative voter, you have to look at the recent history of
the GOP. It is a story of being burned by George H.W. Bush on his 'no new taxes
pledge', putting up candidates that can't possibly win (Bob Dole), and being
burned again by a big government conservative named George W. Bush. The idea of
going into a war (Iraq) to deal with an imminent threat makes sense to
conservatives. But that's not what happened and conservatives are as keenly
aware of that as anyone else. Bush also spent like crazy. He had a lot of good
qualities, but some really flawed ones too. So in light of all
that, you can't blame conservative GOP voters for wanting to find out who their
nominee really is this year before we get burned again. People like Bob Bennett
don't understand the frustration and try to minimize concerned voters as
'extremists.' That was his HUGE mistake. It is not an extremist element in the
GOP but a group of people who will not allow themselves to be lied to again.
Having said that, conservatives ought not put their faith in Santorum or
Gingrich. Romney is the most logical choice.
@homebrew:"Bennett was a better senator than Hatch."Hatch ain't no good either. All hat and no cattle. Both of these guys'
main agenda is to get reelected term after term."When have you
ever heard President Obama say about a republican, that they hate this country
or want to destroy it?"Obama's actions speak louder than
words... What he's done to this country in his three years as White House
occupant is tantamount to destroying the country... adding $5 trillion to the
national debt, budget-destroying and unconstitutional national health care, to
name two. "Obama has reached out to work with the
GOP..."Oh, you mean when Obamacare was being debated? Obama
thumbed his nose at GOP House and Senate members pushing for that
unconstitutional issue through, over the objection of all GOP in the House and
Senate."There is something especially rancid about the never
ending efforts to turn President Obama into a stranger, an alien, a manchurian
candidate, with a diabolical hidden agenda..."Obama has changed
himself into a stranger... Rather, he came to the White House as a stranger to
our American way of life. He comes with the mentality of a stranger and a
foreigner... having acquired his basic view from his Nigerian father and
@A1994:It is a story of being burned by... putting up candidates
that can't possibly win (Bob Dole)..." Republicans don't put up
losing candidates like Dole, and McCain. The Democrats have devised a clever
tactic of deciding who the GOP candidates will be by invading GOP caucuses and
voting in Republican primaries. They (help) put up someone who they are
confident their Democrat candidate can beat. They're doing it again this time
around with Santorum. Clever."The idea of going into a war
(Iraq) to deal with an imminent threat makes sense to conservatives."The idea of going to war in Iraq had little or nothing to do with
imminent threats. It had to do with protecting our oil source in Kuwait and
Kuwait's neighbor, Saudi Arabia. And, by the way, pulling out of Iraq only
means that threat to return.
Bob you got bumped from getting the nomination because you espoused big
government solutions that got us in this mess we are in with a $15 trillion
debt.You said in 1992 that you would serve one term.You
are out of touch with your voters and that is why you are out. You believe in
centralized governmental control which is what the Democrat party and
Bush/Rockfeller/Bennett/ types believe in from the Republican party.We need radical solutions that hand power back to the states and which greatly
curb the entitlements that FDR, LBJ, Clinton, GW and BHO have heaped on the
American people. You were an enabler to these policies and part of the problem
and getting you out of office was way overdue.
Re: EsquireSpringville, UTPlease, there is no war on religion. Reply: If you say so, but I disagree. Excommunicated by GOP, Bob
Bennett says Romney, religion, economy make 2012 election unique?. I see
"NOTHING" unique about it. Obama's readiness to apologize for an
apparently accidental Koran-burning incident is a signal of weakness that
actually incites further unrest, former U.S. ambassador to the United Nations
John Bolton says. Nice people. Iranian rhetoric is spewing more vitriol amid
speculation about whether Israel is planning a possible strike against the
Islamic republic's nuclear facilities. The Iranian saber-rattling comes amid
speculation that Israel might strike pre-emptively to prevent Iran from getting
a nuclear weapon. Iran's warriors are ready and willing to wipe Israel off the
map, the Iranian Deputy Defense Minister Ahmad Vahidi was saying. Obama said he
understands that rising prices are making people worried and fearful. Especially
in his re-election campaign. They're really fearful. Rick Santorum is claiming
that Mitt Romney and Ron Paul have teamed up against him. Which is kind of
ironic that Santorum can be brought down by two men forming a civil union. Who
needs the Middle East's oil anyway. The reality is earth contains only so much
fossil fuel. So the solution is obvious. If oil comes from fossils, then we
should genetically engineer more dinosaurs. What could possibly go wrong?. As
bad as gas prices are here, the situation is worse in Europe. I'll tell you why.
Because every time Europeans fill up their tank, they expose their unshaven
armpits, releasing deadly toxic gases. Rick Santorum says President Barack
Obama's apology for the burning of Qurans in Afghanistan was a mistake that
demonstrates the president's "weakness." Santorum contends that
Obama only should have acknowledged it was wrong instead of saying he was sorry.
Is Afghanistan apologizing for killing off our Military troops yet?. Bob
Bennett continues to live in his Senatorial fantasy world, where the
"elits" are annoited with power and the stupid people who elected them
are to be manipulated more.
Thinkman what entitlements are you referring to. Could you mean medicare. The
average retire will spend $500 K on health care. Do you have a million set
aside for medical care for your spouse and self. Could you explain how I can
find a private company that will provide seniors medical care with affordable
premiums. I am 56. I am worried about my future, especially the high cost of
medical care. All the tea party wants to do is dismantle everything and
anything to do with government and leave everyone to fend for themselves. The
American people are looking for leadership and solutions. Romney is our best
hope for a better future.
Re:NeilT"Do you have a million set aside for medical care for your
spouse and self. Could you explain how I can find a private company that will
provide seniors medical care with affordable premiums."Romney's
"fix" for Medicare:Romney has said he would offer seniors
a choice between the traditional fee-for-service government health-care program
and a new option to purchase private insurance, with the cost partly supported
by the government. On Friday, he said that shift would go into effect in 2022
and added that he planned to increase the Medicare eligibility age by one month
Those fools who voted for Lee over Bennett are going to kill this country.
Isn't there someone else that could write negative pieces about the Republican
Party other than "Bailout Bob"?He wasn't representing the
interests of Republicans, so he got voted out. Whats wrong with that?IMO there's an awful lot of liberals that thought "Bailout Bob" was
the cats meow, MOSTLY because they can't elect a Demo. and guys like Bob Bennett
are as close as they'll ever get to a Demo.Liberals, maybe you could
convince "Bailout Bob" to run for YOUR partys nomination. His voting
record and policies will fit nicely!
Bennett was tossed out by the ear for voting to give illegal aliens American
jobs (Voting against e-verify), and giving "too big to fail" banks all
the bailout money they wanted. His "Y'all Come" attitude toward
illegals is at odds with the Utah voting public's atitude, and his spend, spend,
spend approach to a weak economy places him more in the Lib-Dem camp, than
Cats-Really? Bennett may have been treated badly. But, had he listened to his
constituents and stepped down gracefully, it would not have been necessary to
kick him out! Poll after poll showing he was not wanted should have given him a
clue, but his pride got in the way. Hatch is now making the same mistake and we
will also show him the door!
With regards to BYU Professor Woodworth's comment that he teaches his students:
"I work to convince them not to work on Wall Street and join Satan's cause.
Of course it's futile." what does he mean? While I suspect he is attempting
to be humorous, either it is judgemental to suggest that working on wall street
is to "join Satan's cause" or it demonstrates irony that the good
graduates at BYU choose to do so? I suppose that comment could come from a
professor of any conservative university (not just BYU) but it kind of comes
accross as being judgemental and condescending. As an active member of the LDS
Church, I'm uncomfortable with that kind of a statement. Call me too sensitive
if you wish.
Bennett excommunicated himself. He is way to the left of Orrin Hatch.
We need more Mike Lees and fewer Bob Bennett types in the Senate and the House.
Bennett deserves it. His old eyesore paint building was never cleaned up til he
thought it would cost him votes in an election. His nasty comment "I have
nothing against Gays, I am a great fan of the Arts" stinks. Many artists
those involved in the Arts are not Gay Bob - just as some are politicians and
are not thieves and liars. Your comments that you are 'better than those who
elected you' speak for you. Your Attitude was not appreciated then nor is it
now. Your actions and comments tell us who you really are and no amount of
talking now changes that.
Thats what happens when you support illegal foreign wars and the patriot act
Bob. The voters hate these things because it only serves people like you and we
have to pay the taxes for this orwellian policing of our citizens and civilians
@mcbillay qupte:How come it isn't acceptable (it is found discriminatory) to NOT
vote for someone just because they're a Mormon?Yet, when someone
votes for Mitt Romney simply because he IS a Mormon, it's perfectly okay? As if
being a Mormon is all you need to know about the candidate. Forget about policy,
character, etc...end quoteREALLY? I have been reading and
contributing to several blogs for years and have NOT ONCE heard someone say
"I am a Mormon and will only vote for a Mormon, regardless of policy or
history" Not one time. But there are many who don't like this candidate or
the other , and they vote their conscience, and not the religion.quote:Mitt Romney is the most liberal Republican Presidential Candidate the
voters of the state of Utah have ever voted for in recent memory!end quoteDid I miss the primary? I didn't think Utah voted yet....
Not "Excommunicated", fired. Its very telling that Bennett never
addresses the real reasons he was fired but instead resorts to the typical name
calling and shame tactics of those who have no logical argument to make.
Bobby boy, the "extreme" element of the republican party excommunicated
you because you acted to much like a progressive democrat. You represented the
wrong party and should have switched long ago. Which brings up the next
Sen Bennett was a moderate in a party that has no use for moderation. My
suggestion for Bennett is that he consider joining a moderate 3rd party. One is
certain to develop soon because most of us are tired of politics as usual, and
that is what we are getting.
Bob Bennett wasn't excommunicated from the Republican Party, he chose not to be
responsive to constituents for many years. He is a good person but needed to be
forward with the people that wrote letters and e-mails over the years. He
didn't stop writing letter, he just didn't do it very often in the 18 years I
have lived in Utah. Senator Hatch has done so many more things that are
apparent to Utahns. He has responded to most issues I have addressed in those
18 years. He responds and probably does a better job since Senator Bennett
found himself on the outside due to the political movement of the Tea-Party
people. It was hard to defend Senator Bennett as one that stood for Utahn's
when he didn't respond except in other forums. The quick reaction times of the
various social mediums is also a factor his father, Senator Wallace F. Bennett
had to deal with. Senator Bennett needs to admit he has some part in his demise
and it is not the people who needed someone that would listen and act. Senator
Bennett was part of the appropriations process and that is partly where the
demise of the government was, in the financial processes of Congress and their
influence with Fannie and Freddie.