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'Excommunicated' by GOP, Bob Bennett says Romney, religion, economy make 2012 election unique

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  • SSmith Washington, UT
    Feb. 25, 2012 6:56 p.m.

    Bob Bennett certainly has the gift of stating the obvious.

  • John Charity Spring Back Home in Davis County, UT
    Feb. 25, 2012 6:57 p.m.

    When the so-called tea party jetisoned Bennett, it not only doomed itself, it set the whole Republican Party on the road to failure.

    Of course, the threat of left wing extremism is both severe and relentless. However, the decision of the tea party to respond with equal extremism on the right is not the correct choice.

    We must have moderation and prudence in politics. Indeed, the Founding Fathers intended for this Country to be ruled by moderate statesmen. The proliferation of extremist politicians dishonors everything the Fathers fought for.

  • DN Subscriber Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Feb. 25, 2012 7:08 p.m.

    Bob Bennett continues to live in his Senatorial fantasy world, where the "elits" are annoited with power and the stupid people who elected them are to be manipulated.

    Sorry, Bob, your pontifications are no longer valued, and we hope you are enjoying your involuntary retirement. Please give Orrin Hatch some tips on how to make the transition less bitter and resentful than yours has proven to be.

    Obama may well win, but it will be through political chicanery and duping the easily fooled into voting for him, not by any real or imagined deficiency in the Republican nominee. Heck, even Bob Bennett would be a better President than Obama.

  • Cats Somewhere in Time, UT
    Feb. 25, 2012 9:06 p.m.

    I think it was disgraceful the way Bob Bennett was treated.

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    Feb. 25, 2012 10:48 p.m.

    Unique. Not better. And my fear is that future elections will be more 'unique'.

  • A1994 Centerville, UT
    Feb. 25, 2012 11:02 p.m.

    " Among Democrats, 47 percent said they would not vote for a Mormon, compared to 23 percent for Republicans."

    So much for 'Right Wing' extremism. The left wing in this country is anything but tolerant.

    As for Bob Bennett, you said you would run for two terms and you tried for four. What did you THINK would happen eventually?

  • Rikitikitavi Cardston, Alberta
    Feb. 26, 2012 7:57 a.m.

    I disagree that "the biggest loser will be the LDS Church". In many cases even bad news or negative press can have a significant up-side. Those individuals who are the biggest purveyors of lies and falsehoods are not folks we expect to ever win over anytime soon, if ever. Sadly many who fall for their lies and falsehoods are the real victims. Indeed there are far too many of the latter. Where there is hope in all the lies and falsehoods is a significant number of folks who hear and say to themselves "what is the REAL truth?". "It can't actually be as bad as we are being told". Folks in this latter group are then motivated to seek out the REAL truth.

  • Esquire Springville, UT
    Feb. 26, 2012 8:14 a.m.

    Please, there is no war on religion. What it is is two things. First, religions continue their wars with each other. Mormons getting into the same political bed with Southern Baptists is a bad, bad idea. Then there is Santorum, who states his religious views and expects everyone else to fall in line, another form of religions fighting amongst themselves. This leads to my second point, that churches are out there beating their chests about this or that, sometimes extreme views, and the public is having a negative reaction. They are intolerant of other religious positions. Churches want their views enforced by government and religious views they don't like banned. They effectively want a state sponsored church. Yes, there are some out there who battle against religion generally, but 98% of the problems are self-inflicted by the various churches, particularly those who are dipping their toes into politics.

  • no fit in SG St.George, Utah
    Feb. 26, 2012 8:59 a.m.

    The voters could find unique quality in the upcoming 2012 elections if the candidates could talk about the issues that plague the average American......lack of jobs, housing/mortgage failures, perks for wealthier Americans. taxes, education. healthcare.
    What is the constant Republican message at this time:
    Make Obama a one term president.
    Contraceptive issues are of massive importance!

  • homebrew South Jordan, UT
    Feb. 26, 2012 9:26 a.m.

    Bennett was a better senator than Hatch. Lee is a kook. We need someone who will work with the other party, not ridicule and villify themsich as Lee and Hatch. When have you ever heard President Obama say about a republican, that they hate this country or want to destroy it?, Obama has reached out to work with the GOp, but has gotten a cold shoulder ever since his election. This is not your fathers republican party. "There is something especially rancid about the never ending efforts to turn President Obama into a stranger, an alien, a manchurian candidate, with a diabolical hidden agenda" Bennett didnt act like an extremist, and its too bad for his party.

  • TOO Sanpete, UT
    Feb. 26, 2012 9:37 a.m.

    Cats

    Are you serious? The year that he was defeated, he came down to Snow College for one of my classes and spoke (before he was ousted). I asked him a couple questions about things he was doing. He told me I was just a dumb college student who didn't understand the world of politics.
    I am glad he was treated the way he was treated. He was rude, ignorant, and prideful.

  • paperboy111 Lindon, UT
    Feb. 26, 2012 11:05 a.m.

    The obvious problem that no one is willing to state is that the vast majority of LDS members self-identify as conservative Republicans and vote as a solid Republican block.

    It's ironic that up until the 1950s, the spectrum of political affiliation of LDS members ranged across the board. This started to change during the cold war and accelerated as extremely conservative and political church leaders like Ezra T. Benson began espousing the dangers of the Democratic party and it's leaning towards liberal thinking and ideals.

    In the 2012 Nevada Republican caucus, CNN reported that 88% of LDS voters voted for Romney. If Romney wasn't the nominee, Most LDS voters would still probably vote for a Republican nominee, as they did for George W. Bush in 2000 and 2004. The message to non-Mormon voters and especially Democratic voters? If you are LDS you not only solidly identify with the Mormon candidate, but with the Republican party, seen of course as the opposition to Democrats who support causes dear to their hearts like protecting Social Security, Medicare and a woman's right to choose.

    Until Mormons feel comfortable identifying with and voting for non-Republican causes and candidates, Mormonism will continue to be viewed by outsiders as suspicious, and at worse as dangerous.

  • Capella Bakersfield, CA
    Feb. 26, 2012 11:10 a.m.

    Interesting article, glad it got reported. Hearing speakers 'wax eloquent' fills in a lot of gray areas. And every man has his own opinions, and agenda...

    I've lived in California 52 years, Idaho for 8, and Utah while at "The Y". I've seen good and bad in all communities, prejudice and ignorance, profound sacrifice and humanitarian service- as most people on this planet discover eventually. No one has a corner on the matket of sainthood, but honest people make the best communities by far.

    It is unfair and disingenuous to try and make one side or the other be the all-evil or all-saintly in this life. But being completely honest is threatening to some, but kudos to the honest who will discuss it.

    In the dialogue on religious differences, I feel it would be good to educate the ignorant on the other's doctrines. All religions believe in some kind of charity, giving and service. The difference lies in what your beliefs in salvation are. So I suggest that we all get past the back-patting and glad-handing, and own up to our varying doctrinal teachings and history. When I see that in a conference on this topic, then I'll attend.

    Let the whining cease and the honesty begin. That's the only nexus for true communication.

  • Truthseeker SLO, CA
    Feb. 26, 2012 12:11 p.m.

    2nd try
    The marriage of politics and religion several years ago has been damaging to both. It is not surprising more Americans, particularly the youth, are choosing to remain unaffiliated. When politicians use religion they appear hypocritical, judgmental, and smug. Often the "war" over social issues involves demonization.
    Additionally, the many scandals involving religious leaders further exacerbates the disaffection.

    The Republican Party today doesn't resemble the party that produced Reagan. Republicans have painted themselves into a corner, held hostage by its more extreme elements.

  • goatesnotes Kamas, UT
    Feb. 26, 2012 12:44 p.m.

    I'm always so amused by Bennett's self-characterizations - "excommunicated by the GOP?" Come on, Bob. It had nothing (very little) to do with your politics. Instead, you were old (77) and couldn't retire gracefully. This year the same matter - Orrin Hatch (78) - faces us again. We have another old man who just thinks life cannot go on without him in the Senate. He will be summarily dismissed at convention, just like you were.

  • A1994 Centerville, UT
    Feb. 26, 2012 1:24 p.m.

    @Truthseeker

    "The Republican Party today doesn't resemble the party that produced Reagan. Republicans have painted themselves into a corner, held hostage by its more extreme elements."

    You will probably remember (or hopefully have researched it) that Ronald Reagan wasn't exactly a favorite of the GOP establishment. He changed the party, at least for a while. To understand the conservative voter, you have to look at the recent history of the GOP. It is a story of being burned by George H.W. Bush on his 'no new taxes pledge', putting up candidates that can't possibly win (Bob Dole), and being burned again by a big government conservative named George W. Bush. The idea of going into a war (Iraq) to deal with an imminent threat makes sense to conservatives. But that's not what happened and conservatives are as keenly aware of that as anyone else. Bush also spent like crazy. He had a lot of good qualities, but some really flawed ones too.

    So in light of all that, you can't blame conservative GOP voters for wanting to find out who their nominee really is this year before we get burned again. People like Bob Bennett don't understand the frustration and try to minimize concerned voters as 'extremists.' That was his HUGE mistake. It is not an extremist element in the GOP but a group of people who will not allow themselves to be lied to again. Having said that, conservatives ought not put their faith in Santorum or Gingrich. Romney is the most logical choice.

  • wrz Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 26, 2012 3:34 p.m.

    @homebrew:

    "Bennett was a better senator than Hatch."

    Hatch ain't no good either. All hat and no cattle. Both of these guys' main agenda is to get reelected term after term.

    "When have you ever heard President Obama say about a republican, that they hate this country or want to destroy it?"

    Obama's actions speak louder than words... What he's done to this country in his three years as White House occupant is tantamount to destroying the country... adding $5 trillion to the national debt, budget-destroying and unconstitutional national health care, to name two.

    "Obama has reached out to work with the GOP..."

    Oh, you mean when Obamacare was being debated? Obama thumbed his nose at GOP House and Senate members pushing for that unconstitutional issue through, over the objection of all GOP in the House and Senate.

    "There is something especially rancid about the never ending efforts to turn President Obama into a stranger, an alien, a manchurian candidate, with a diabolical hidden agenda..."

    Obama has changed himself into a stranger... Rather, he came to the White House as a stranger to our American way of life. He comes with the mentality of a stranger and a foreigner... having acquired his basic view from his Nigerian father and Indonesian step-father.

  • Alfred Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 26, 2012 3:57 p.m.

    @A1994:

    It is a story of being burned by... putting up candidates that can't possibly win (Bob Dole)..."

    Republicans don't put up losing candidates like Dole, and McCain. The Democrats have devised a clever tactic of deciding who the GOP candidates will be by invading GOP caucuses and voting in Republican primaries. They (help) put up someone who they are confident their Democrat candidate can beat. They're doing it again this time around with Santorum. Clever.

    "The idea of going into a war (Iraq) to deal with an imminent threat makes sense to conservatives."

    The idea of going to war in Iraq had little or nothing to do with imminent threats. It had to do with protecting our oil source in Kuwait and Kuwait's neighbor, Saudi Arabia. And, by the way, pulling out of Iraq only means that threat to return.

  • Thinkman Provo, UT
    Feb. 26, 2012 5:24 p.m.

    Bob you got bumped from getting the nomination because you espoused big government solutions that got us in this mess we are in with a $15 trillion debt.

    You said in 1992 that you would serve one term.

    You are out of touch with your voters and that is why you are out. You believe in centralized governmental control which is what the Democrat party and Bush/Rockfeller/Bennett/ types believe in from the Republican party.

    We need radical solutions that hand power back to the states and which greatly curb the entitlements that FDR, LBJ, Clinton, GW and BHO have heaped on the American people. You were an enabler to these policies and part of the problem and getting you out of office was way overdue.

  • Brother Chuck Schroeder A Tropical Paradise USA, FL
    Feb. 26, 2012 5:41 p.m.

    Re: Esquire
    Springville, UT
    Please, there is no war on religion.

    Reply: If you say so, but I disagree. Excommunicated by GOP, Bob Bennett says Romney, religion, economy make 2012 election unique?. I see "NOTHING" unique about it. Obama's readiness to apologize for an apparently accidental Koran-burning incident is a signal of weakness that actually incites further unrest, former U.S. ambassador to the United Nations John Bolton says. Nice people. Iranian rhetoric is spewing more vitriol amid speculation about whether Israel is planning a possible strike against the Islamic republic's nuclear facilities. The Iranian saber-rattling comes amid speculation that Israel might strike pre-emptively to prevent Iran from getting a nuclear weapon. Iran's warriors are ready and willing to wipe Israel off the map, the Iranian Deputy Defense Minister Ahmad Vahidi was saying. Obama said he understands that rising prices are making people worried and fearful. Especially in his re-election campaign. They're really fearful. Rick Santorum is claiming that Mitt Romney and Ron Paul have teamed up against him. Which is kind of ironic that Santorum can be brought down by two men forming a civil union. Who needs the Middle East's oil anyway. The reality is earth contains only so much fossil fuel. So the solution is obvious. If oil comes from fossils, then we should genetically engineer more dinosaurs. What could possibly go wrong?. As bad as gas prices are here, the situation is worse in Europe. I'll tell you why. Because every time Europeans fill up their tank, they expose their unshaven armpits, releasing deadly toxic gases. Rick Santorum says President Barack Obama's apology for the burning of Qurans in Afghanistan was a mistake that demonstrates the president's "weakness." Santorum contends that Obama only should have acknowledged it was wrong instead of saying he was sorry. Is Afghanistan apologizing for killing off our Military troops yet?. Bob Bennett continues to live in his Senatorial fantasy world, where the "elits" are annoited with power and the stupid people who elected them are to be manipulated more.

  • NeilT Clearfield, UT
    Feb. 26, 2012 7:50 p.m.

    Thinkman what entitlements are you referring to. Could you mean medicare. The average retire will spend $500 K on health care. Do you have a million set aside for medical care for your spouse and self. Could you explain how I can find a private company that will provide seniors medical care with affordable premiums. I am 56. I am worried about my future, especially the high cost of medical care. All the tea party wants to do is dismantle everything and anything to do with government and leave everyone to fend for themselves. The American people are looking for leadership and solutions. Romney is our best hope for a better future.

  • Truthseeker SLO, CA
    Feb. 26, 2012 8:25 p.m.

    Re:NeilT
    "Do you have a million set aside for medical care for your spouse and self. Could you explain how I can find a private company that will provide seniors medical care with affordable premiums."

    Romney's "fix" for Medicare:

    Romney has said he would offer seniors a choice between the traditional fee-for-service government health-care program and a new option to purchase private insurance, with the cost partly supported by the government. On Friday, he said that shift would go into effect in 2022 and added that he planned to increase the Medicare eligibility age by one month each year.

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    Feb. 27, 2012 8:41 a.m.

    Those fools who voted for Lee over Bennett are going to kill this country.

  • 1conservative WEST VALLEY CITY, UT
    Feb. 27, 2012 9:26 a.m.

    Isn't there someone else that could write negative pieces about the Republican Party other than "Bailout Bob"?

    He wasn't representing the interests of Republicans, so he got voted out. Whats wrong with that?

    IMO there's an awful lot of liberals that thought "Bailout Bob" was the cats meow, MOSTLY because they can't elect a Demo. and guys like Bob Bennett are as close as they'll ever get to a Demo.

    Liberals, maybe you could convince "Bailout Bob" to run for YOUR partys nomination. His voting record and policies will fit nicely!

  • Rick LT GLENDALE, AZ
    Feb. 27, 2012 11:19 a.m.

    Bennett was tossed out by the ear for voting to give illegal aliens American jobs (Voting against e-verify), and giving "too big to fail" banks all the bailout money they wanted. His "Y'all Come" attitude toward illegals is at odds with the Utah voting public's atitude, and his spend, spend, spend approach to a weak economy places him more in the Lib-Dem camp, than Republican.

  • Tami Herriman, UT
    Feb. 27, 2012 1:49 p.m.

    Cats-Really? Bennett may have been treated badly. But, had he listened to his constituents and stepped down gracefully, it would not have been necessary to kick him out! Poll after poll showing he was not wanted should have given him a clue, but his pride got in the way. Hatch is now making the same mistake and we will also show him the door!

  • Meckofahess Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 27, 2012 4:57 p.m.

    With regards to BYU Professor Woodworth's comment that he teaches his students: "I work to convince them not to work on Wall Street and join Satan's cause. Of course it's futile." what does he mean? While I suspect he is attempting to be humorous, either it is judgemental to suggest that working on wall street is to "join Satan's cause" or it demonstrates irony that the good graduates at BYU choose to do so? I suppose that comment could come from a professor of any conservative university (not just BYU) but it kind of comes accross as being judgemental and condescending. As an active member of the LDS Church, I'm uncomfortable with that kind of a statement. Call me too sensitive if you wish.

  • Flashback Kearns, UT
    Feb. 27, 2012 6:19 p.m.

    Bennett excommunicated himself. He is way to the left of Orrin Hatch.

  • Thinkman Provo, UT
    Feb. 27, 2012 10:26 p.m.

    We need more Mike Lees and fewer Bob Bennett types in the Senate and the House.

  • Dektol Powell, OH
    Feb. 28, 2012 9:39 a.m.

    Bennett deserves it. His old eyesore paint building was never cleaned up til he thought it would cost him votes in an election. His nasty comment "I have nothing against Gays, I am a great fan of the Arts" stinks. Many artists those involved in the Arts are not Gay Bob - just as some are politicians and are not thieves and liars. Your comments that you are 'better than those who elected you' speak for you. Your Attitude was not appreciated then nor is it now. Your actions and comments tell us who you really are and no amount of talking now changes that.

  • Anti Bush-Obama Washington, DC
    Feb. 28, 2012 11:58 a.m.

    Thats what happens when you support illegal foreign wars and the patriot act Bob. The voters hate these things because it only serves people like you and we have to pay the taxes for this orwellian policing of our citizens and civilians abroad.

  • crunchem Cedar City, Utah
    Feb. 28, 2012 12:00 p.m.

    @mcbillay qupte:How come it isn't acceptable (it is found discriminatory) to NOT vote for someone just because they're a Mormon?

    Yet, when someone votes for Mitt Romney simply because he IS a Mormon, it's perfectly okay? As if being a Mormon is all you need to know about the candidate. Forget about policy, character, etc...end quote

    REALLY? I have been reading and contributing to several blogs for years and have NOT ONCE heard someone say "I am a Mormon and will only vote for a Mormon, regardless of policy or history" Not one time. But there are many who don't like this candidate or the other , and they vote their conscience, and not the religion.

    quote:Mitt Romney is the most liberal Republican Presidential Candidate the voters of the state of Utah have ever voted for in recent memory!end quote

    Did I miss the primary? I didn't think Utah voted yet....

  • Hunt Spanish Fork, UT
    Feb. 28, 2012 12:10 p.m.

    Not "Excommunicated", fired. Its very telling that Bennett never addresses the real reasons he was fired but instead resorts to the typical name calling and shame tactics of those who have no logical argument to make.

  • KM Cedar Hills, UT
    Feb. 28, 2012 12:15 p.m.

    Bobby boy, the "extreme" element of the republican party excommunicated you because you acted to much like a progressive democrat. You represented the wrong party and should have switched long ago. Which brings up the next discussion...term limits.

  • Mike in Cedar City Cedar City, Utah
    Feb. 28, 2012 1:04 p.m.

    Sen Bennett was a moderate in a party that has no use for moderation. My suggestion for Bennett is that he consider joining a moderate 3rd party. One is certain to develop soon because most of us are tired of politics as usual, and that is what we are getting.

  • JWB Kaysville, UT
    Feb. 28, 2012 4:05 p.m.

    Bob Bennett wasn't excommunicated from the Republican Party, he chose not to be responsive to constituents for many years. He is a good person but needed to be forward with the people that wrote letters and e-mails over the years. He didn't stop writing letter, he just didn't do it very often in the 18 years I have lived in Utah. Senator Hatch has done so many more things that are apparent to Utahns. He has responded to most issues I have addressed in those 18 years. He responds and probably does a better job since Senator Bennett found himself on the outside due to the political movement of the Tea-Party people. It was hard to defend Senator Bennett as one that stood for Utahn's when he didn't respond except in other forums. The quick reaction times of the various social mediums is also a factor his father, Senator Wallace F. Bennett had to deal with. Senator Bennett needs to admit he has some part in his demise and it is not the people who needed someone that would listen and act. Senator Bennett was part of the appropriations process and that is partly where the demise of the government was, in the financial processes of Congress and their influence with Fannie and Freddie.