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Families remain at odds over actions of Josh Powell, even after his death

Josh Powell's sister in Utah had hoped to adopt the two boys

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  • Anti Bush-Obama Washington, DC
    Feb. 8, 2012 12:36 p.m.

    I hate attorneys because all of them are totally inhuman. Nothing justifies murdering your kids. If he killed himself only, then this would be a more valid statement.

  • Rifleman Salt Lake City, Utah
    Feb. 8, 2012 12:48 p.m.

    "On Tuesday, Texas relatives of Josh and Steven Powell issued a statement pointing fingers at police practices, as well as activities of the media, which they say played a part in Sunday's tragic ending"

    Why an I not surprised that Josh Powell's family would want to blame others and make excuses for Josh's evil actions? If I were related to Josh Powell I'd never admit it.

  • Colorado Reader Littleton, CO
    Feb. 8, 2012 12:50 p.m.

    Josh Powell and Josh Powell alone is responsible for this tragedy. Why the need to place blame on everyone else? Give me a break! I feel for Powell's extended family, but really? He was a monster! His sister seems to be the only one that recognizes that!

  • USAlover Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 8, 2012 12:51 p.m.

    NOOOO you don't. Don't even think of shifting the responsibility here. Josh Powell is the "anti-thesis" of dignity and restraint.

    This is offensive, if not downright ridiculous. Josh Powell is a cruel, heartless murderer who chopped his kids with a hatchet and then burned them. Don't even give these relatives the time of day.

    What is wrong with people these days? People are "allergic" to taking responsibility for their actions and are always the "victim" of something. ENOUGH!

  • my2cents2 Saratoga Springs, UT
    Feb. 8, 2012 12:59 p.m.

    No matter how the Powell family spins it, the facts remain. Josh Powell is a murderer. Josh could not have loved his sons and do what he did to them. Do not try to blame what Josh Powell did to his sons as somehow the fault of the legal system or the media. No, it was the act of a demented person who would kill rather than lose control of a possession.

  • Deserthiker SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Feb. 8, 2012 1:07 p.m.

    While Josh Powell is ultimately accountable for his own choices and actions, and recognizing that nothing can excuse the horrific acts he committed, the pressure he was placed under by relentless public and media scrutiny and criticism, inflammatory stunts choreographed by police such as described in this article, and the carnivorous rush to judgement of our entire society certainly put him under intense strain. The added pressure of proceedings to take away custody of his children would have multiplied the stress. I'm sure police calculated that the pressure would eventually cause him to make a mistake and give them the needed break to establish guilt. Unfortunately, when he broke under two years of relentless pressure, he chose actions that will forever haunt us. Given all the information released to the public, I believe it highly likely that he was guilty in the disappearance of his wife, but evidence firmly establishing that guilt is absent- otherwise he would already have been charged. Our Constitution holds sacred rights of due process and innocence until guilt is proven- however in this case public sentiment tried, convicted, and proceeded to punish him in the absence of due process or proof. Just to play devil's advocate-what if he truly were not guilty of his wife's murder? How would our collective actions look then? Had this case been handled differently by the police, the media, and the public perhaps those two boys would still be alive. Perhaps Josh would still be here to face earthly justice when police finally gathered a sufficient case against him. Perhaps answers as to what happened to Susan Cox Powell would be found to provide her family some closure. We'll never know. If future cases such as this present, hopefully we can take a hard look at what worked and what didn't work, and learn from our mistakes as we try to see justice done.

  • DeltaFoxtrot West Valley, UT
    Feb. 8, 2012 1:25 p.m.

    Mark my words... the Cox's will end up owning the state before this is all said and done. If Josh was that mentally unstable he should have never been allowed visitation with his children at his home.

    If the case against Josh Powell was so strong then why wasn't he in jail? Simple... all the evidence police have found was circumstantial at best. They couldn't hold him on it, they couldn't obtain a conviction with it. Everyone believes the man did it, but if there is no concrete proof the law states that we must assume Josh was innocent.

    I can only imagine an innocent man hounded week after week, month after month by police and the media. No telling what depths of insanity pressure like that could drive a person to.

    Well, I guess we know now.

  • Citizen Jane Clearfield, UT
    Feb. 8, 2012 1:52 p.m.

    In the beginning was Steven Powell.

    I can't help but think Steven Powell's (Josh's father) demented actions, negative opinions of women and warped vouyerism had a chilling and negative effect on his children. It appears Josh may have been especially affected by his father's attidues and actions.

    There is no excuse for taking another life. However, I can understand how the intense pressure of hiding his actions (taking his wife's life) and always trying to remember which lies he'd told and what plausible lie will reinforce the first lie could take it's toll on him.

    I believe he took his sons lives because he didn't want them to grow up knowing what their father had done, he didn't want the Cox family to raise his boys and, in his warped mind, thought they would be better off.

    In the end, we are responsible for our own actions. As heartbreaking as it is...

  • Moderate Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 8, 2012 1:59 p.m.

    Reminds me of the Elizabeth Smart case where the police were "certain" they had their man. They arrested "a person of interest". The stress of being accused was too much for the man, and he had a heart attack and died.

    Sure, Josh Powell shouldn't have killed himself nor his kids, but it is fair to consider if police tactics played a part. When a kid gets bullied on Facebook and commits suicide, we say something should be done. Should we handle suspects with kid gloves? No, but police methods in this case need to stand to a review.

  • #1 Champ Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 8, 2012 2:06 p.m.

    Two thoughts:

    I'm now certain Josh P. was responsible for Susan's disappearance.

    and

    This is 100% Josh's fault. Not 97.5% Josh, 2% police, .005% media. 100% Josh's fault. Defending Josh Powell is like defending Hitler, don't waist our time.

  • Brahmabull sandy, ut
    Feb. 8, 2012 2:10 p.m.

    It doesn't matter much pressure from anybody was put on me, it could never force me to kill my own children. It is called evil. He is evil and always has been. No statement about anybody can make them evil - he was either evil or he wasn't. Clearly he was and nothing can change that.

  • chubbuckidahocougfan Chubbuck, Idaho
    Feb. 8, 2012 2:18 p.m.

    Moral of the story...don't kill your wife and the police won't bother you it be suspicious of your behavior. Josh never have law enforcement or any other person a reason to not believe he didn't have something to do with Susanna appearance. I do find the West Valley OF completely incompetent of investigative and detective work however. Josh should have been charged a long time ago.

  • LivinLarge Bountiful, UT
    Feb. 8, 2012 2:41 p.m.

    All the EVIL and wrong that has transpired is centered on Josh Powell and those that enabled his EVIL and sickening acts. I hope and pray that I never have to meet or even cross paths with such an EVIL person, including those who make excuses or who are apologists for his EVIL thoughts and actions.

  • Whoa Nellie American Fork, UT
    Feb. 8, 2012 3:01 p.m.

    All you wannabe legal minds can't be serious that somehow police tactics drove this madman to commit murder. Please explain how Josh Powell's "tactics" of concocting the most unbelievable alibi of going camping in the middle of the night on one of the coldest nights of the year with two small children does not play into this. Please explain how any police or media are to blame for Josh Powell's tactic of not cooperating with police in the investigation. Some of you trolls act like you have all the facts and knowledge that the WVC police department has. Well, cough them up so you can look as smart as you think you are.

  • IHeartMusic Mendocino, CA
    Feb. 8, 2012 3:12 p.m.

    has anyone else heard that the westboro baptist church is going to picket at braden and charlie's funeral?

    i just saw this...

    MargieJPhelps MargiePhelps
    Westboro will picket the funerals of the Powell boys, Sat.,2/11, 12:15p, to remind @GovGregoire they died because of her rebellion. #obeyGod

    does anyone here know some bikers who will go out and set up their bikes to block these idiots from being seen?

    they were going to protest a soldier's funeral here and all the bikers in town set up their bikes so the protesters couldn't see or be seen.

  • Rifleman Salt Lake City, Utah
    Feb. 8, 2012 3:31 p.m.

    Re: Deserthiker | 1:07 p.m. Feb. 8, 2012
    "the pressure he was placed under by relentless public and media scrutiny and criticism, inflammatory stunts choreographed by police such as described in this article, and the carnivorous rush to judgement of our entire society certainly put him under intense strain"

    Yes, taking your wife's life will put intense strain on most men. We call that a consequence. Josh could have avoided all that strain by not killing his wife, or if innocent of that charge then by helping the police find the real killer.

  • Kami Bountiful, Utah
    Feb. 8, 2012 3:37 p.m.

    We will all be held accountable for the impact our words and deeds have on others. Thank goodness there is one perfect judge.

  • AZRods Maricopa, AZ
    Feb. 8, 2012 4:02 p.m.

    It seems that law enforcement is in a no win situation when it comes to cases like this.
    Either they're percieved as not doing enough or not being aggresive enough, or they are being too aggressive or pushy.
    I wonder if some of Josh's defenders were happy with things the way they were before this latest devestating event.
    I guess it depends on which side of the law you are standing.
    Certainly, if you have done what Josh has done and on more than one occasion, then you will always play the role of victim. And unfortunately you will convince a handful of others to defend you, in spite of the final results.
    It would be interesting to know, albeit after the fact, what evidence law enforcement had i this case from th beginning.

  • DeltaFoxtrot West Valley, UT
    Feb. 8, 2012 4:09 p.m.

    @IHeartMusic: I believe that biker group is called the Patriot Riders or something. They will ride as honor guard for any soldier's funeral and set up to block protesters.

  • ExecutorIoh West Jordan, UT
    Feb. 8, 2012 4:15 p.m.

    I read about 1/3 of this story before I started to get sick to my stomach. Unless there is something positive to report, let this story die.

  • Kansan by choice LAWRENCE, KS
    Feb. 8, 2012 4:16 p.m.

    In light of the reports of the younger of the boys saying, apparently on more than one occasion, that mommy was in the trunk of the car" have they checked the area near where the "camping trip" was?

  • MoJules Florissant, MO
    Feb. 8, 2012 4:19 p.m.

    Nobody forced Josh to take an axe or hatchet and hit his boys with it, nobody forced him to douse the house with gas and ignite it. Josh is 1000% responsible for this act and sadly he, his father and some siblings and other relatives are as messed up in the head to spin it any other way. If anyone condones what Josh did, then they had their hand on the axe and helped kill those boys, they to me are guilty by association in the sense that they can't accept the fact that Josh did the most evil act that a person can do on this earth. It would be one thing to murder 100 strangers, but to murder your own two children, that is sick.

  • Robbie512 PROVO, UT
    Feb. 8, 2012 5:01 p.m.

    It's impossible for everyone to be 100% responsible for everything. For example, sometimes we feel bad if we do something that makes another angry. In other words, we assume some responsibility for that person's anger. And yet, if someone does something that angers us, we like to think that our anger is 100% our own fault, because we could just decide to be happy. You can't have it both ways.

    That being said, these influences don't excuse Josh from what he did. That would be ludicrous. But to completely ignore the possibility of mistakes on the part of others is to open ourselves to a similar tragedy.

  • moniker lewinsky Taylorsville, UT
    Feb. 8, 2012 5:02 p.m.

    I'm really having a hard time processing the first sentence of this article.
    "An attorney [...] say police enlisted them to "ruffle the feathers of Josh Powell" throughout their investigation"

    What?

  • 7UD4 KAYSVILLE, UT
    Feb. 8, 2012 5:37 p.m.

    Intense strain and pressure should have moved him to confess and tell police where they could find Susan's body, or if unwilling to face the consequences to kill himself. Only a warped mind could rationalize what actually happened.

  • Bifftacular Spanish Fork, Ut
    Feb. 8, 2012 6:01 p.m.

    Let's review:
    1) Josh came under immediate suspicion after Susan's disappearance because..... he acted so weirdly, story didn't fit, had motive, etc etc etc
    2) Police put pressure on Josh because........ see #1
    3) Josh felt pressure because..... of the way he handled #2 and because.... he really was a murderer.
    4) Josh then kills own children because.... A) He couldn't live with out them (didn't check to see if they could live without him), B) To stick it to his in-laws, law enforcement, and anyone else that had the audacity to suspect him of being involved in Susan's disappearance, C) because I think he was breaking down mentally due to his conscience eating at him.

    I have all kinds of admiration and respect for his family for continuing to try and love Josh. I don't think love should ever die no matter what your loved one may do. But, they are extremely ill advised to try and blame anyone else for Josh's actions. There is absolutely no defense for what he did.

  • Jonathan Eddy Payson, UT
    Feb. 8, 2012 6:12 p.m.

    Judgment at any cost has never been a very prudent modus operandi, even if the suspect truly is guilty. Well trained, professional law enforcement generally stays within the parameters of the rules of evidence and the rules or procedure in court.

    If it was the West Valley City police department's intent to break this man, they surely got their wish. They just didn't consider the collateral damage.

    Way too often, misguided psychological mind game tactics by law enforcement sure seem to end up with Waco like results. Is this going to be the new "protect and serve" police to citizen relationship of the 21st century that we can expect?

  • The Rock Federal Way, WA
    Feb. 8, 2012 7:00 p.m.

    Awwww, did the media and policeman say naughty things about the poor unfortunate soul who murdered his two innocent boy in cold blood?

    Next we will learn that the mean biting dog was angry because somebody petted him backwards.

  • Mom of Five Orem, UT
    Feb. 8, 2012 7:16 p.m.

    "In our hearts and minds, we feel this family tragedy was set into motion from the beginning due in part to the various questionable government agencies' practices, religious bias, the Internet kangaroo courts, and sensationalized news media, all of whom have circumvented the laws that protect all of our rights to due process," they wrote. "Stewardship of the responsibilities that have been entrusted to those organizations and individuals has been completely compromised.

    Umm...Josh Powell set this in motion when he killed his wife. Everything that has happened was a result of that.

  • Rifleman Salt Lake City, Utah
    Feb. 8, 2012 7:58 p.m.

    Re: Jonathan Eddy | 6:12 p.m. Feb. 8, 2012
    "If it was the West Valley City police department's intent to break this man, they surely got their wish."

    It was the intent of the West Valley Police to solve a murder. They had a mountain of evidence that pointed to only one man. Are you suggesting that they should have simple folded their arms and walked away?

    Why is it that those who know the least about his case think they are wiser than those working hardest to find this mother's body?

  • K Mchenry, IL
    Feb. 8, 2012 8:17 p.m.

    Those are ethical tactics the state can take. I think it's brilliant to divert attention away from the area they are searching so they aren't tempted to move the body, if they did it. My goodness a man held up a sign saying his daughter is missing. How would that ruffle a mans feathers who wants his wife found? Distract him, sure,

    The state bent over backwards for the family. The children were not removed because of being a person of interest. As soon as the man had new housing after his fathers legal issues visitation returned to a residence instead of a public place. There was no termination of parental rights.

    He locked out a social worker trying to get the boys, took an ax to them, gassed and set the on fire in a matter of minutes a task after planning for days. Horribly brutal. Why did all those people getting notes from him take so long to call? I don't see this man as a victim. Or someone who snapped. Too organized. And why no outrage at his dad, who had photos of wife?

  • Northwest Coug Pasco, WA
    Feb. 8, 2012 9:54 p.m.

    Jennifer Graves, my heart goes out to you.

    That is one whacked out family you have to deal with.

    Thanks for being the voice of reason.

  • Wayne Rout El Paso, TX
    Feb. 8, 2012 10:06 p.m.

    The fault is that he should have gone to trial already and be setting in jail. I see no reason why anyone should feel sorry for Josh Powell. He created all his own problems starting with the disappearance of his wife. Had he loved his sons, they would be alive today. I understand that guilt can weigh heavily on the mind. The only grief I have is for the boys...they seem so sweet and look so much like their mother.

  • mattwend IDAHO FALLS, ID
    Feb. 8, 2012 10:06 p.m.

    I strongly suspect that if/when Josh Powell killed his wife, it was most likely not premeditated. If it had been, he wouldn't have had to take his children with him when he went to hide her body. It's likely that the police were trying to pressure him to get him to make a mistake. However, in future, maybe someone could make a connection that someone who likely committed murder in a moment of serious stress (ie, a serious argument with his wife or a plan for divorce)and the very real likelihood that extreme stress could lead him to kill again. He is still responsible, but are there better ways to manage someone who has killed before?

  • David B. Cedar City, UT
    Feb. 8, 2012 10:08 p.m.

    If the police used tactics to rattle his cage it worked all right.But the result wasn't even contemplated.With a person under the strain that Josh Powell was feeling, the system failed big time when they allowed him to have home visits instead of mandatory supervised public vists say at a police station or other during this point in time. I hope law enforcement learned something in this and change some things in procedures.

  • A voice of Reason Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 8, 2012 10:25 p.m.

    Deserthiker,

    I don't care to defend people, especially if I don't know the truth. But while others don't know the truth, I find it hard to accept people being so quick to judge.

    Susan technically could be alive. She likely isn't and his killing the boys before the explosion is sufficient evidence to suggest that he probably killed her. But as for what 'we could learn', this isn't an 'eye opener' to move forward from. Our social reactions have been this way before. We need to stop pushing suspects, the accused, etc. If people want a tighter leash on suspects (within reason and the law) then fine... but the public condemning can't help and potentially will ONLY make things worse, maybe even dangerous.

    A murderer is responsible for his actions. But we are equally responsible for our actions. Adding pressure (punishment) without proving who's to be held accountable is wrong. I'm not saying that society causes a murderers actions- but anyone who'd deny that a bully can't prompt a punch from another child is willfully ignoring reality for their own rational.

    If he was innocent and wouldn't have done this if society hadn't hated him- then would there not be any sort of shared accountability? Maybe I'm wrong. I do believe Josh Powell is responsible for this horrible thing. And really, I don't believe in blaming the police or society. I believe in doing what's right; I just can't justify condemning statements without evidence or reason, which didn't exist before the hatchet.

  • Gregg Weber SEATTLE, WA
    Feb. 8, 2012 11:34 p.m.

    Trying to figure out why my comment was rejected I have divided up to see which of the 4 parts didn't make it. Unfortunately a puzzle is not clear if pieces are missing. Here is the first.

    If one is suposed to be an expert in these matters then they had better make the right decisions and see the consequences down the road. Looking in hindsight we see that he was pushed too far.

  • Gregg Weber SEATTLE, WA
    Feb. 8, 2012 11:37 p.m.

    Here is the third of four:

    Now I am not saying that the state wanted to see what happened happen, but experts should be experts. Did the state put the father into a box where there was only one exit that he could see?

  • Gregg Weber SEATTLE, WA
    Feb. 8, 2012 11:48 p.m.

    Second attempt at part 2:

    Here is the second part of four:

    Here is a hypothetical case: Allan wants to throw a cream pie at Bob. Allen sees that Bob has a problem with Charlie who can lose his temper. Allen tells Charlie things that gets Charlie real mad at Bob. Charlie throws a cream pie at Bob. Simple action causes a known planned reaction.
    Who is responsible for the cream pie in Bobs face?

  • Gregg Weber SEATTLE, WA
    Feb. 8, 2012 11:56 p.m.

    Second attempt at part 4 of 4:

    I am not asking that those in charge be forced to do anything extreme but a simple hand washing isn't enough.

  • EnglishAlan Rugeley, Staffs
    Feb. 9, 2012 5:26 a.m.

    If Mr Powell Sr does know anything about the disappearance of his daughter-in-law, surely now is the time for him to bring this whole sad affair to an end. No one will feel worse about his son than they currently do, but surely people will feel better about Steve Powell and his family than they currently do, realising that he is, at last, showing a Christian act in allowing both sides of the family some closure. Surely any decent father grieving the loss of his son and grandchildren would not want to increase or maintain the loss that the Cox Family are feeling right now. Or would he? My hope is that he would not.

    Intransigence in the family to maybe prevent Josh Powell facing a murder charge is what led to the guaranteeing that he is now definitely known to be guilty of the murder of his children. Pride is such an awful thing. Folks try to hide the truth in order to keep up appearances, and yet the truth always prevails eventually. There is a God in Heaven, and He knows all things. Come on Steve. Bring closure, and allow YOUR OWN family to heal also.

  • Softball Dad Woods Cross, UT
    Feb. 9, 2012 9:15 a.m.

    I think Josh would have garnered some sympathy if he had killed just himself and not the boys. Some people would have pointed fingers at all the pressure and accusations as pushing him over the edge. I might've gave him some sympathy since he hadn't been charged or tried. But since he decided to take the boys with him. He gets none from me.

    All those close to it now get my sympathy. May their burdens be lightened and their grief consoled.

  • plyxply SLC, UT
    Feb. 9, 2012 9:22 a.m.

    What I don't get is why his sister is so enamored with seeing herself on tv? Greiving in public is not becoming, show some restraint and stop talking to the press and feeding the fire. Josh was a pathetic coward, but get over being on tv and tell the press no.

  • RShackleford Saint George, UT
    Feb. 9, 2012 9:59 a.m.

    22 minutes elapsed from the time the social worker dialed 911 till deputies arrived on scene. 8 minutes from when she called 911 before deputies got the call and were dispatched. When seconds count the police are only (several) minutes away.

    Still not sure why an unarmed social worker was the only one sent with the children to a suspected murderers house for a supervised visit. oh' well.

  • bjak Knoxville, Tn
    Feb. 9, 2012 10:26 a.m.

    Not his fault

    Clearly none of this is Josh's fault.

    Wife disappears in middle of camping trip in December - not his fault. Blames wife
    He doesn't cooperate with searching for her - again not his fault. Blames cops
    He gets continued questions about his wife's disappearance - again not his fault. Blames media
    Chops off his kids heads and murders them in cold blood - again not his fault. Blames ...... fill in the blank.

    c'mon guys, he's not to blame.

    There is one person who knows where Susan Powell is and he is sitting in prison eating the three square meals we are providing. A few days in Quantanemo Bay and he would provide some closure for the Powell family.

  • So. Cal Reader San Diego, CA
    Feb. 9, 2012 10:38 a.m.

    "The Graves had said they were working to adopt 7-year-old Charlie and 5-year-old Braden Powell into their family and raise them as their own children, 'until (Susan) can take over again,' Jennifer Graves said." Pa-lease. Quit playing to the cameras and media. Those children weren't going anywhere except to remain with their loving grandparents. If anyone legally "adopted" them, it would have been the grandparents. Why would a judge realistically determined to remove the children from grandparents and relocate them back w/ the Graves family back in Utah? It simply wouldn't have made any sense. This was not worthy of a 2 hour "press conference." As much as I LOVE that this sister, apparently, has no involvement with the Powell family, she needs to move on as well.

  • IHeartMusic Mendocino, CA
    Feb. 9, 2012 10:46 a.m.

    âI think he must have just felt that there was only one way left to protect his sons from the pain from all the emotional and physical pain that theyâve been experiencing,â Alina told Good Morning America on Thursday.

    The reporter pushed Alina, and said âBut he didnât protect them, he killed them,â and Alina responded, âI wish it had been differently.â

    ~~~smh~~~

  • Trooper55 Williams, AZ
    Feb. 9, 2012 10:57 a.m.

    You can't blame the media or the WQest Valley Ploice Department for what has happen. Pure and simple Josh Powell is a coward and a cold blooded murder. He plan and took the life of his sons, which leads me to believe that he also murdered his wife too. The oldest son says mommy was in the trunk. If you say he loves his sons why take them camping on the coldest day of the year, alot of what Josh Powell had stated don't add up and I believe with all my heart that W.V.P.D. was getting ready to file charge in aa little time and that is why he took his life and MURDERED his sons. I have followed this case from the beginng and have read all the articles about the case and have copies of all articles.

  • ksampow Farr West, Utah
    Feb. 9, 2012 11:15 a.m.

    Josh's "restraint" was most likely calculated and self-serving. The devil himself can act like an angel to suit his purposes.

    Josh's "harassmnet" by police was largely due to his TOTAL LACK OF COOPERATION with their investigation.

  • skylinestar saltlake city, utah
    Feb. 9, 2012 11:18 a.m.

    This Washington State Dispatcher asked too many Questions!
    Mean while back at the rental home the supervisor was giving many answers.

    Mean while and mean while The two boys were getting axed and Josh mean time was going just about had enough of life.

    As Voicemails said so...with no time left then..dead air flame..
    God Bless Braden&Charlie,Susan maybe never found?

    Josh really needed the chance to seek more help this story breaks down abuse and cruelness

  • katy salt lake city, ut
    Feb. 9, 2012 12:34 p.m.

    I cannot understand how anyone, especially a father, could kill their children in such a terrible way. I try hard not to think of the fear those little boys had with one watching their dad take a hatchet to their brother. Such a selfish, evil man.

  • SCCougar LEXINGTON, SC
    Feb. 9, 2012 1:28 p.m.

    There was a news story that broke when they were looking for Susan out in the desert. If I remember correctly they first said that a body had been found, then later said that the cadaver dogs hit on a particular spot but no body was found. Am I remembering this correctly? Anyway, it could be possible that Susan was at that place and the body was moved.....Just a thought.

  • wow Trabuco Canyon, CA
    Feb. 9, 2012 3:47 p.m.

    When someone is willing to justify what Josh has done, and then blame it on the police and the press, Quite often those same people have been on the wrong side of the law in their own life.
    It would be interesting to know the background of these Texas finger pointers.

  • Love Utah Draper, UT
    Feb. 10, 2012 8:49 a.m.

    "There's no broken system here. Josh was broken," his estranged sister, Jennifer Graves, said Wednesday. "Josh did this and to blame anyone else for him taking a hatchet to their necks and blowing them up and causing them to suffer for their last breaths is wrong. It's wrong to say that anyone else is at fault here."

    Jennifer, we know you hurt terribly, but thank you for putting it so well, in such a short paragraph. You speak wisely and there really is no more to add. My heart goes out to you and the Cox family and my prayers are with you all.

    RIP Susan, Charlie and Braden.