Funny stuff. It is kind of interesting to think about. You ask one question,
though, that I would like to give my thoughts on. You ask:"how
does libertarianism work with commandments, again?"It's
important to note that there is more than enough room for various political
leanings in the LDS church. As I understand it, there is no "one
true" party or leaning be it conservative, liberal, Democrat, Republican,
etc. But since you ask how libertarianism could ever work with commandments,
I'd like to try to explain how one could have libertarian beliefs that fit in
the framework of the Commandments. Agency is a core principle of the
gospel. We have the right to make decisions for our lives and then accept the
consequences of our decisions. Agency teaches, and many libertarians believe,
that you can warn, exhort, teach, preach, encourage, but that you cannot force
someone to do what is right. God will not take our agency from us, and
libertarians believe we should not surrender that agency to governments. We
should be taught "correct principles" and "govern
[ourselves]". If God will not force us to be better human beings, why give
that task to the government?
Fun article! Though, it is hard to see Brother Gingrich as the cuddly old man
when he has had a history of extramarital relationships. Well, I guess now that
I think about it branding him this way might make sense =). Thanks for a good
In a time of vitriol and divisiveness, I really enjoyed your article.
Perspective is always a good thing, and they ARE all sons of God. (Thouugh not
all the same God, according to some of them....)
Clever, except that Gingrich and Cain would have been excommunicated long ago.
As an outside of Utah Mormon, this was very funny to me. Nail-on-the-head. But
I want a part two political ward post with Dems! :) I am rolling over here!
Thanks for the laugh,Courtney!
Very funny.Although I think Gingrich would be the old guy who got
excommunicated a while back but still shows up to church every Sunday. Multiple
affairs will do that to you.
You forgot Brothers Huntsman, Romney, and the current bishop, Bishop Obama!
Surely you can find an analogous ward member for Brother Biden!What
Hilarious! Well done, Courtney!
Great article! I laughed out loud as I read!
IMVHO if all of the GOP candidates were Mormon it would 100% guarentee that
President Obama would be re-elected.
Funny stuff! Thanks!
What if all the GOP candidates were Mormon? It be time to move to Canada.
Would they try to abolish all Alocoho, Tobacco, And shut down all casino's in
the United States?
Great article, too funny -- nailed it!And to the stuffy shirted
commentors -- Gingrich and Cain would've been excommunicated a long time
ago...lighten-up!We know non of it is truem It's a PARODY! seez -
get over it.
If they were all Mormon, then it would be clear the Church wasn't true....
And Romney would be? The Stake President. Because lets face it, whether you like
him or not, when he is in his suit he looks just like every stake president we
have all ever had.
Brother Gingrich needs a hearing before the high council about his marital
Personally, I think Bishop Obama is "awesome."
Got a charge out of that. I needed a laugh.
Umm, well, for one thing it would be super boring if everyone were Mormon,
including the GOP candidates.
Being in the Bishopric in one of the Provo wards, I personally think Bishop
Obama will do great as a Bishop especially considering the number of people who
are in need of help and support in the church both spiritually and financially.
Apart of Romney and Huntsman, the other GOP candidates will not last
one Sunday in the Bishopric, Elder Quorum, RS or High Priest. A lot of things in
the church especially helping members, Bishop storehouse etc are against some of
the core principles shared by the GOP. Sad but true.
If all GOP candidates were mormon a great conundrum would occur. As we learned
in previous elections, voting for a mormon candidate is just good sense. Voting
against one is religious bigotry. How can we do both?
Of course, they'd all have to understand one cannot legislate morality. If one
could force others to obey the doctines of the Church, we wouldn't need to have
anyone disfellowshipped or excommunicated, or have anyone inactive, ever, and no
problems with obedience. All adults would hold recommends. And, sadly, there
would have been another decision in the preexistence to force our obedience.
Soooo---we cannot force morality on our fellow citizens who don't agree with us,
either, and our all-Mormon candidate roster would imagine itself a major
problem...would they not? Just sayin'...
I've been thinking about this column all day.Funny.I got
a couple other zingers to add.....If all GOP condidates were
Mormon;1. They would not campaign for office.2. They would be
"called", and sustained - unanimouly -- no Voting.3. It would be
a 4 year "Calling", with no pay - in fact, they'd even have to pay
their own way for the priveldge of being President.4. Can you say - Flat
tax?5. Pro-Welfare?6. Pro-Immigration?7. Anti-War?8.
"how does libertarianism work with commandments, again?"
Does anyone recall the founding principle of 'Free-agency'? We have
been Blessed to have Prophets to guide us in this latter day. How can we claim
to believe in these modern Prophets, yet ignore their teachings?
Ezra Taft Benson would be a good start. I pray for the 'awakening' of those that
choose to ignore (or fail to research) the teachings of our prophets (GOD'S
word) in trade for their own fact detached opinion (usually insalled by media
sources, like music, TV and movies that are part of what President Benson warned
us about). How can one claim to believe in our Prophets call an
individual, that follows closer to the 'actual' teachings of our prophets than
the others, crazy?
Great article! Great chuckle!
And while we're at it, who wouldn't want an Elder's Quorum President like Dennis
Kucinich? :-DAnd maybe Michelle Bachmann would have a role in a
Relief Society - where Nancy Pelosi was the Relief Society President. ;-)
It's actually a really great question. If the entire field where LDS (or
Catholic, or Evangenical, or ...) I wonder how that would change the current
standings of each. Essentially, if there were no "Mormon" issue, how
would a state like South Carolina look at each candidate. I for one can't
see how anyone would choose Newt over Mitt in that situation. They both have
the same core political flaws (progressive skeletons in the closet), but with
Newt you have infidelity, anger mangement, DC establishment. With Mitt all you
have is a vague feeling that he makes too much money, a calm thoughful demeanor
and years of the right kinds of experience. Newt just doesn't stand up well in
To Paraphrase LDS Liberal, to all those who have taken this too seriously,
lighten up!!!Aside from that, thank you so much for this article I
really needed a good laugh today!
I also immediately wondered why "Bishop" Obama and his beautiful
family aren't included here. A follow-up piece featuring prominent Democrats
(including Michelle Obama, Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi, etc.) would
I think I just threw up in my mouth a little bit.
Is this seriously what the Dnews has become? Shame.
This article reveals one important point, that many LDS, like the author, are
blindly voting for Romney because he is blac... ah hem, LDS. I think this is a
critical mistake. I heard people in happy valley criticize blacks who voted for
Obama "because he was black," yet feel completely justified in
mustering up some defense of Romney's poor policies "because he's a
Mormon" like them. Hypocrisy much?I think LDS faithful would be
wise to step back from their pride long enough to see which candidate advocates
positions that are doctrinally sound and in line with gospel teachings. Of
course, to do this, you might actually have to study the doctrine and learn
what's been taught on the topics of money, war, liberty, etc. by the prophets.
For instance, calling Ron Paul "crazy and cute" doesn't
diminish his assertions as much as reveal your ignorance of important matters.
Arise and repent! I'm not saying you should vote for Paul, but I will say, you
should actually do what the First Presidency suggests each political season and
"Study the candidates and the issues" -- That means a little more than
taking the cable news channel's invested interests opinion for your own. Use a
little independent thought in the process. You might even pray to be guided in
I think this is very funny, and it is obviously a parody, so just enjoy it for
what it says. One thought I had was at least there would be no difficulties with
"the Mormon question". I think someone else above mentioned that,
too. Point being, then people could focus on REAL issues about what our country
needs, instead of spending so much time worrying about how each candidate
perceives Christ. Santorum is Catholic. The Catholic view of God and Christ
differ from the LDS view, and from the Evangelical view (frankly, I'm not sure
what "Evangelical" even is), so what's the big deal anyway? I say, get
past the religion and focus on the abilities of the candidate to help our nation
fix her many problems. Seems like an obvious idea to me. I love your
description of Rick Perry. Perfect!
@MeThinks,After studying the issues, history, politics and the
Constitution, I have decided to vote for Ron Paul, I decided that four years
ago.I don't think your critique on Mormons voting for Romney because
he's LDS is the same as blacks voting for Obama b/c he's black. Religion is a
choice that requires adherence to rules and values. Knowing he shares the same
religion gives us insight into his values and who he is. It's the same reason
most republicans vote for a republican and democrats for a democrat. A black
voting for Obama b/c he's black is no different than bald gusy voting for a
biden b/c he's balding. It's based purely on an outward physical feature of
which he has no control. It's juding a book by it's cover. At least w/ Romney
most Mormons feel they have the 'Reader's Digest' on him.
Perfect! I loved the article.
This is a real gem. Thank you.