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Utah Utes basketball: Utes can't piggyback on Smith's Bay Area magic

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  • SSmith Washington, UT
    Jan. 14, 2012 10:38 p.m.

    Yikes. Boy, do we stink.

  • Ted H. Midvale, UT
    Jan. 14, 2012 10:41 p.m.

    Fantastic. Puts a smile on my face

  • niners SAINT GEORGE, UT
    Jan. 14, 2012 10:42 p.m.

    Bad game, that is what happens to a young team on the latter part of a 2 game road trip. The Utes will be okay and come back swingin against Arizona and ASU.

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    Jan. 14, 2012 10:45 p.m.

    A 36 point loss. That's going to leave a mark. I was really starting to think U had turned the corner, with the three close games.

    I hope this season does not impact your returning players or recruits. Coach Kry's ability to keep the players committed to the program and not back out of their commitment will be tested. I hope he's on the phone with Loveridge every day.

    Players want to play for winning programs and coaches who will develop them. They won't stay committed to the program just because you're in the PAC12.

  • StGtoSLC SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Jan. 14, 2012 11:16 p.m.

    CFIT, matter of fact, most of the team attends as many of Jordan's games as they're able to. Also, many recruits respond well to these situations, knowing they will instantly be a valuable commodity to the team and have a chance to be a leader from day 1. It's not for everyone, and an obvious risk, but some feel that the reward for success is that much greater.

    One thing I've noticed with this team is they have a short memory and have been able to come back and respond after some discouraging games. I'd say Colorado was more embarrassing than this one. Wider point differential, much worse offense, and Colorado's not as good as Cal. Hopefully they can play with the intent to win against some beatable Arizona teams this week.

  • Balan South Jordan, Utah
    Jan. 14, 2012 11:21 p.m.

    Sorry niners, this is not a young team. They are older than both BYU and USU.

  • Ufan Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 14, 2012 11:24 p.m.

    I guess we can put to bed the notion that the Utes were actually starting to get their act together. I'm sure I've ever seen a Utah team that was so inept at offense.

    34.7% FG, 26.7% 3PT, 50% FT, SIX assists, EIGHTEEN turnovers

    Pathetic!

    Looks like beating a very mediocre Washington State by 2 points at home in overtime and playing a couple of closer than expected games against Washington and Stanford will be the high water mark of the season for the Utes.

  • Ted H. Midvale, UT
    Jan. 14, 2012 11:30 p.m.

    6 assists as a team. That a new season high?

  • Stay the Course Salt Lake City, utah
    Jan. 14, 2012 11:46 p.m.

    How many points did the utes score in the first half I didn't see it in the article just that it was very low

  • Uteanymous Salt Lake City, Utah
    Jan. 14, 2012 11:48 p.m.

    Are you kidding? Only 15 points at halftime, only 45 points for the game; the fourth game this season that the Utes haven't broken the 50 point barrier.

    Out of 345 Division 1 basketball teams, Utah now ranks:

    331st in points per game - 57.4 ppg
    333rd in rebounds per game - 29.8 rpg
    304th in assists per game - 10.8 apg
    252nd in FG percentage - 41.4%

    BYU is AVERAGING (79.9ppg) more than Utah has scored in any game this season (75 in a 14 point loss to Harvard 89-75).

  • Stay the Course Salt Lake City, utah
    Jan. 14, 2012 11:53 p.m.

    With BYU scoring 95 in their win they must of had 45 points by the half I would think

  • Trevvor Sandy, UT
    Jan. 15, 2012 1:15 a.m.

    bleeding heart libs aren't good for much, but this time I say great job!

  • Hatch Sandy, UT
    Jan. 15, 2012 1:16 a.m.

    Hard to believe but the experts say the PAC12 will only get 1 team into the tournament this year because they scheduled easy win schools at the beginning of the year to bolster their records then lost to them.

    Among the blow outs:
    UCLA lost to Loyola
    Arizona lost to Seattle Pacific
    Washington lost to South Dakota State
    Utah lost to everyone

    Those same experts expect the WCC to qualify 3 teams for the tournament:
    St. Marys, Gonzaga, and BYU all of which have crushed PAC 12 teams they have met.

    Utah should feel fortunite they are playing in such a weak conference.

  • Duckhunted highland, utah
    Jan. 15, 2012 2:51 a.m.

    well its A long hard road!! I agree with all U y fans we suck really bad this year but things run in cycles the Utes will get better! no more smack talk here!!

  • Duckhunted highland, utah
    Jan. 15, 2012 2:57 a.m.

    CougFaninTX you post very good comments on both programs!!

  • Tom in CA Vallejo, CA
    Jan. 15, 2012 6:37 a.m.

    i'm surprised they scored 45.

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    Jan. 15, 2012 7:01 a.m.

    I remember playing on losing teams, it was hard. Hang in there players.

  • CougarBlue Heber City, UT
    Jan. 15, 2012 8:33 a.m.

    Is the Coach still thinking about having walk-on tryouts to help the team. If not maybe he should do that real soon.

  • A1994 Centerville, UT
    Jan. 15, 2012 8:55 a.m.

    We now resume regularly scheduled programming....

  • SoonerUte Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 15, 2012 9:22 a.m.

    CougarFaninTX expressed Pac 12 envy through his usual fake concern:
    "Players want to play for winning programs and coaches who will develop them. They won't stay committed to the program just because you're in the PAC12."

    Recruits want to go where they will play. It's nice to be a part of a winning team, but what satisfaction is there in riding the bench? An example in football might be a recruit who is praised as "future NFL talent", but then left on the bench, undeveloped. Who could blame that player for leaving?

    Utah represents a great opportunity to play (obviously they need the help). Coach K is making a difference, and recruits notice that. Good athletes are driven to test themselves at the highest levels of competition that they can. A chance to play in the PAC12 is a definite draw.

  • agb Layton, UT
    Jan. 15, 2012 9:57 a.m.

    15 Pts in the first half? Better than 11 I guess.

    Hang in there lil band of transfers.

    lol

  • Cali Coug Visalia, CA
    Jan. 15, 2012 10:08 a.m.

    As a Cougar fan I enjoy the seeing the u loose games as much as anyonebut enough already. Time to get behind the u and focus on the good things they are doing on the hill. I may find my little brothers a pain in the tush, but they are my little brothers. It is time to stand up and help the kids in SLC.

    I like the approach Coach Kry is using with this team and the circumstances they face. He remains positive, supportive and is focused on the bigger picture. This season does not make or break the program, it is merely the first step in the long process of rebuilding basketball at the u. I still believe the u will win one more PAC 10.2 game this year, but they may shock us all and win several more gamesI hope they are able to achieve this goal.

    Rise and Shout utah!

  • Griz Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 15, 2012 11:17 a.m.

    wow. the pac 12 being so inferior to the wcc, it's looking more and more like Utah's high water mark this year was the 19 pt loss to byu at home.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Jan. 15, 2012 11:30 a.m.

    Another beat-down but I'm still hoping that we can get to the 5 win mark.

    To BYU fans (or Veritas), the "high water mark" this year was not going down in history as the worst team in the State. That honor still belongs to BYU 1-25 1996.

  • Kiboo South Jordan, Utah
    Jan. 15, 2012 12:33 p.m.

    Feel better, Uteology? I know I am crushed knowing that over 15 years ago BYU went 1-25.

    Enjoy your stellar season.

  • Griz Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 15, 2012 12:40 p.m.

    @Uteology

    Lol! Touché.

  • TRUTH Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 15, 2012 1:09 p.m.

    Time to fire Chris hill....before the PAC 12 changes their minds and kicks Utah back to obscurity

  • Rockwell Baltimore, MD
    Jan. 15, 2012 1:21 p.m.

    Nice try, Uteology, but how pathetic is it for one of the "all time great college basketball programs" to be setting their "high water mark" goal as not having quite as bad a season as BYU's worst season in history.

    Moving into this century:

    #20 BYU
    #110 USU
    #115 WSU
    #215 SUU
    #248 UVU
    #316 Utah

    btw, BYU 1997 didn't lose to a DII team and didn't barely survive (by 3 points) losing to an NAIA team.

    Based on those results, it could be argued that a 2012 25-loss Utah team could actually be worse than that 1997 25-loss BYU team.

  • SportsCenter Olympus Cove, Utah
    Jan. 15, 2012 2:11 p.m.

    Utah's brief display of life the last couple of weeks, a two-point win in OT and a couple of closer than expected losses, is looking more and more like fool's gold.

    Utah's 3-point loss at Stanford is particularly suspect considering Stanford blew out Colorado by 20, 84-64, the same team that destroyed Utah by 40 in the HC, 73-33.

  • 4601 Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 15, 2012 4:10 p.m.

    Uteology
    "At least you are not as bad as BYU in 1996."
    I'm certain Coach Krys uses that line often when he motivates the team. It's very inspiring.

  • NevadaCoug Overton, NV
    Jan. 15, 2012 4:19 p.m.

    It's laughable that people keep calling this Ute team "young". According to ESPN's roster lists, Utah has 2 Seniors, 7 Juniors, 3 Sophomores, and 5 Freshman. Sorry, with more than half of your roster composed of upperclassmen, you can't claim the "young" excuse.

    Now, can you say that, because of the numerous transfers, these guys still haven't gelled yet? Sure, I guess you could say that.

    Your welcome for finding you a new excuse.

  • SoonerUte Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 15, 2012 5:33 p.m.

    It's laughable that people keep calling this Ute team "young".

    NevadaCoug, they're called a young team because the majority of the players are new to the team. Only two players from last year's team are on the court (one is out with an injury). "New" is another word for "young".

    Hope that helps you accept the term!

  • StGtoSLC SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Jan. 15, 2012 6:52 p.m.

    Sportscenter, Colorado didn't play in the HC. Utah played Colorado in Boulder, which is actually a pretty tough place to play.

  • Veritas Aequitas Fruit Heights, UT
    Jan. 15, 2012 6:55 p.m.

    Uteology

    "To BYU fans (or Veritas), the "high water mark" this year was not going down in history as the worst team in the State. That honor still belongs to BYU 1-25 1996."
    ===

    Sorry you felt unloved.

    I was sort of feeling that the Utes scores spoke for themselves.

    Since you bring up 1996, why not continue back to 1984.

    But seriously, talking smack?

    Severe obsession issues?

  • B C Park City, UT
    Jan. 15, 2012 7:30 p.m.

    StGtoSLC

    "Colorado didn't play in the HC. Utah played Colorado in Boulder, which is actually a pretty tough place to play."

    Tougher than Stanford?

    Wyoming beat the Buffs 65-54 in Boulder, and Washington State, the team Utah beat by 2 points in OT, only lost 71-60 at Colorado, so obviously it's not nearly as tough of a place to play as Utah made it.

  • Griz Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 16, 2012 4:13 a.m.

    @SoonerUte
    If, according to what you said, good athletes want to test themselves at the highest levels of competition, why would they choose the Pac12? I think you contradict yourself a little bit there.

    in recent years the pac 12 has been getting owned by the MWC, the WCC etc. I guess next in line would be the big west conference and the big sky conference.

  • StGtoSLC SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Jan. 16, 2012 7:28 a.m.

    B C, yes tougher than Stanford, ask anyone who's ever played college basketball there. They're 40-6 there in the last 3 years with the only losses being to #1 Kansas twice, #13 Kansas State, #22 Texas A&M (all of those were 6 point or closer games), Missouri and as you mentioned this year Wyoming. True, only scoring 33 points there is deplorable and indicative of the talent and lack of size we're working with, but I do know what I'm talking about.

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    Jan. 16, 2012 4:13 p.m.

    SoonerUte
    "New" is another word for "young".

    I just attended a wedding for an elderly couple this weekend. I think the 82 year old bride will be happy to know she is not really the "new" bride, she is the "young" bride.

  • simply me SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Jan. 16, 2012 5:26 p.m.

    Kaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaboooooooooooooom, rock bottom.