Has BYU lost this PR battle with the Big East or what? I have rarely if ever
seen BYU lose a PR battle in my life but this is bad...
If BYU has to take a big step backwards to go to the Big East, I think it is
wise of them to stay independent. I can see giving up money but they won't give
up the nationally televised games and the exposure they bring. That would defeat
their #1 goal which was achieved when the signed with ESPN.
That article about Utah State Univ. is disturbing. Real classy Aggie fans....and
the funny thing is most of them are LDS and live the rules regarding morality
that BYU has because they are LDS principles and laws yet they still come and
"heckle" a player for making a poor choice. That's bottom of the
barrel for Aggie fans. It's fine if you dislike BYU as institution and do not
like their sports programs but that takes it to a new level. I commend the USU
president for seeing a concern and apologozing on behalf of the school7 to 8 years ago, I went to the Spectrum (first time ever) and BYU came back
down from 20 points in the second half and almost won if it wasn't for Spencer
Nelson with an acrobatic shot that propelled the Aggies to victory in the
closing seconds. it was a great game...but the problem I had was with the Aggie
fans that routinely flipped me off during the game for clapping and cheering
when BYU was making their comeback. They told me I was not welcome back in the
spectrum and that I was not allowed to cheer. Classless!
On this Thanksgiving holiday, I am sooooo thankful for Dr. Chris Hill!Hang in there Band of Lil Brothers!
"Utah State's president and athletic director has apologized to BYU for
"inappropriate" fan behavior at the Cougar-Aggie basketball game in
Logan earlier this month."Hmmmm.....anyone want to bet that the
utah and usu trolls will gloss this over and just continue to talk about the BYU
scoreboard incident?Didn't think so.
@ Duckhunter"Hmmmm.....anyone want to bet that the utah and usu
trolls will gloss this over and just continue to talk about the BYU scoreboard
incident?"Which scoreboard in incident are you talking about?
What in the World is BYU thinking?First the Big 12And
now the BIG EastForget your ESPN exposure, start working on your PR
exposure!With the arrogance and unreasonable negotiations the Y has
bigger problems now to face.Nobody will want to invite or schedule
the Y.Y ou Blew It!
The only Utah/BYU scoreboard incident I can recall was when it read 54-10
following this year's game. If you want to keep talking about that incident I'm
happy to oblige.
@mr. obviousIt is hard to "blow" something you didn't want
all that much to begin with. Obviously BYU was only willing to accept the Big
East's invite on its terms. Short of that it wasn't a very attractive offer. My guess is that we aren't getting the entire story here anyway. The Big
east is obviously bitter about it and that shows you just how much they really
did want BYU. They want boise for its bcs ranking, and actually BYU's bcs
ranking to a lesser extent, but they really wanted BYU for what it would bring
to the tv deal. When they couldn't get BYU to agree to give them their tv rights
they threw a fit. I don't blame them either because BYU would have been their
main TV attraction and the most valuable school they had in those negotiations.
Not ebing able to use the rights to BYU's home games in the tv negotiations
severely hurts the value of that potential contract. So now they are bitter and
trying to blame it all on BYU. bsicly they wanted BYU to add value to them while
they sucked value from BYU.
@cowardly robinGoogle scoreboard incident BYU USU. utah had nothing
to do with it other than utah "fans" bringing it up all the time on
these boards for the last year.
@DaffyDuckGuyI Googled "scoreboard incident BYU USU" and
it shows a Basketball score board with the words "Dear Utah State, Enjoy
the loss, Your Big Brother BYU" is that the one?That is
disgusting!Utah would never do something like that!
I think BYU just outsmarted itself. They have burned a lot of bridges in the
last 72 hours and not just with the Big East.
Unfortunately, I am not at all surprised at the behavior of the Utah State fans.
I was truly shocked the last time I attended a game in Logan. Their behavior
was kindergarten level and really disgusting.As for Bleed Red: I
attended both BYU and Utah. I have attended a lot of games. I have NEVER seen
any BYU fan behave in a way that I have seen many Utah fans behave. Nasty,
hateful and religiously bigoted. I went to both schools and I know whereof I
speak. The scoreboard incident you refer to was unacceptable and done by ONE
individual. It was immediately taken down and apologized for by the BYU
Administration.I applaud the Utah State Administration for taking
action. I hope it helps.
if BYU really had a chance to go to the BIG 12 and passed then someone needs to
lose their job. Horrible move. BYU should have been begging to get in just like
West Virginia and TCU did.
From Utah State President Stan Albrecht to BYU President Cecil Samuelson:"Some fans chose to conduct themselves in ways that went far beyond
mere school rivalry, fair play and - most importantly - basic human
decency," the letter read. "It is inappropriate for us to invite a
guest to come into our home and then have to suffer the language and personal
insults tossed at him. We have visited personally with both President (Cecil)
Samuelson and Athletic Director Tom Holmoe and apologized on behalf of the USU
community."To equate "scoreboard incident" (which
lasted only a few seconds while fans were leaving the Marriott Center) to the
way Utah State students behaved for over two hours before, during and after the
game, is like trying to equate a 3-second call to a flagrant foul.Many BYU fans discussed the crude behavior they expected to see at Utah State.
Some Aggies fans responded that the Aggie student section was the best in the
country and would never do anything crude or vulgar.Having attended
many games in the Spectrum, I knew better.All of those good LDS kids
at USU must be thoroughly ashamed at how their school was represented.
Keep up the good work, Tom H! I trust you 100% that this was the right move. As
an Alum who was deprived for years by the Mountain West's TV contract, I'm
ecstatic about the current deal. Anything less is unnecessary. To those who
might think "stability" comes from being in a Conference, I say
"Huh?!" Their overwhelming lack of stability is why they want BYU.
Their inability to provide a hedge for BYU against that being foisted on BYU
and/or general bad decision making by a new Conference (e.g. Craig Thompson)is
reason enough not to jump. Control of home games is a clincher. Thanks again to
Tom and the Admin that backed him up on this! PS - I think BYU would
have jumped had Notre Dame been willing to join for FB and both had gotten to
keep most or all of their respective TV deals.
Bleedred:"Utah would never do something like that!"So what you're saying is you don't follow Devonte Christopher on
BYU has not said one word. They Profesionally negotiate in private and they keep
confidences.BYU has not burned any bridges at all.BYU held all
the cards. Seriously, why would BYU give up what it already has? BYU is not
demanding anything, they merely want to keep their current contracts. Don't
contracts mean anything anymore?The Big East is the one which is
making demands on BYU. They are trying to take away and diminish what BYU
already has. Does that make any sense?If the Big East was solid and
the whole AQ to Conferences was going to be maintained, then there might be a
reason to join.All that changed last week when the BCS brass
indicated the AQ's may be gone in 2013.All BYU needs to do is
improve their November and late Oct schedules and all is good.Many
of you who think you have a "Right" to know what is going on are just
naive.The catty remarks from those who have no inside information
just demonstrates how ignorant you are to business negotiating. Some former BYU
players/radio hosts act as if they are entitled to all the information.They are Not!
I hate seeing children at live sporting events these days. Pro or college, it
doesn't matter. Players with foul mouths and classless fans are only creating an
even more crude and classless younger generation of moral pygmies.
I think that BYU just made an enormous mistake. It seemed like a
"No-Brainer" to join the Big East for football only. It would give
them an upgraded schedule during November and provide an opportunity to play for
a championship and even a BCS bowl after they lose their first game. I don't
understand BYU insisting on even more TV rights than Texas gets in the Big 12 It
seems like they just passed up a great opportunity to get more exposure than
they will ever get as an independent. Time will tell who is right here.
Either the BYU administration will be viewed as geniuses a few years from now,
or fans will be calling for their heads! But, this much is certain, BYU has
really burned some bridges over the past few days! Don't expect another major
conference to come knocking anytime soon!!
Well, we Aggies have arrived! We are on the same level of 'classlessness' as
Utah (according to some BYU fans.) And, for the first time, I saw the term 'USU
troll' on here. Amazing. Everyone just chill out. Each fan base has its
idiots. That has always been the case. Just don't join in.
Wow, over 400 comments about BYU and the Big East in the last two days, close to
half of them from BYU-obsessed Utah fans who still like to pretend that BYU is
irrelevant.Meanwhile, ZERO comments about Utah's new
"rival", the Buffalos, who will be "invading" RES in just a
couple of days... oh wait, there's not even an article about the intense new
rivalry, just a lame marketing attempt to capitalize on something that doesn't
exist.----Despite the intense scrutiny, BYU made the
correct decision not to forfeit their home television rights to a conference
that couldn't improve on what BYU already had.
@riddlemethis"So what you're saying is you don't follow Devonte
Christopher on twitter."No
San Diego St. will get AQ status before BYU.The Big 12 and the Big
East took a long look at BYU with all its peculiarities and the each said...
huh... no thanks BYU, you're just not worth it.
@Riddles in the Darkside"Meanwhile, ZERO comments about Utah's
new "rival", the Buffalos, who will be "invading" RES in
just a couple of days... oh wait, there's not even an article about the intense
new rivalry, just a lame marketing attempt to capitalize on something that
doesn't exist."Your right, not much to hype about, to be honest
were still trying to find a worthy rivalry opponent, the last one we had, the
Utes went down to their house, thumped them a good one 54-10 and watched their
team quit in the forth qt.I bet the Buffalos keep it within 44
points.Keep trying RiddlerGood Luck Band of Sister
Less money, equal or less TV exposure, and a good chance of no BCS access in
2013. How exactly is BYU missing out? It seems like just yesterday
Utah "fans" were referring to this Conference as the "Big
Least" and saying what a mistake it would be if BYU joined it. ... Wait,
that WAS just yesterday!!!!
My guess is that BYU will be playing for a (another) National Championship
before utah. utah will be a bottom feeder in the AQ conference of champions for
years to come. But their chests will always be sore from self inflicted
pounding.I am happy BYU didn't jump, like a lap dog, into an
imploding Big East. I doubt the addition of San Diego State will tip the scales
toward AQ status for the Big East.
So in Jay Drews blog over in the Tribune he provides a link to a poll taken by
ESPN Soprts Nation. The poll asks who needs who more, BYU or the big east. You
can see the overall results 56% say the big east needs BYU, 18% say BYU needs
the big east and 26% say both are fine on their own. You can then click on each
individual state to see the results for each of them. Interestingly every single
state beleives it was the Big East that needed BYU far more than BYU needed the
Big East and it isn't even close for any of them. But of course
overwhelmingly the ute "fans" on here tell us BYU was the one that
lost out and they are joined by a small, very small, minority or BYU fans.
Obviously almost no one else anywhere in the country agrees.So much
for BYU losing the public relations fight over this. Overwhelmingly people in
every single state in the entire country believe BYU had the right position in
this.But of course utah "fans" are not exactly good
sources for anything about BYU.LOL!
@Howard SDo you actually read the articles, or just the headlines?
BYU cut the talks off. BYU, when it comes to the Big East, was in the driver's
seat. THEY knocked on BYU's door. BYU didn't like what they were selling. I know some people would like to believe that BYU's program is doomed.
Not going to happen. BYU has been able to attract BIG names for several years.
Even when they were in the WAC, BYU was able to bring teams out to Provo. The
Big 12 would have been cool. The Big East is a joke. Independence is better
than the Big East.
Howard S. - "San Diego St. will get AQ status before BYU."Probably true, but so what? AQ status is not BYU's current priority. And,
will AQ status put SDSU in a BCS game any time soon--let alone a national
championship game? They still have to perform on the field.Speaking
of performing on the field, will you get to see that SDSU AQ conference
performance on TV every week? No. Therein lies the primary reason BYU is not
going to be in an AQ conference next year, nor probably the year after that.Both the Big 12 and Big East took a long look at BYU and thought that
the promises of AQ status and greater TV riches would convince BYU to sell it's
independence status and control of home broadcast rights in order to
join--something TCU/Boise ST/SDSU and 50 other non-AQ schools would do in a
heartbeat. They were wrong.BYU is still an independent, and will be
for the foreseeable future because for the moment, AQ status and >$$ are NOT,
nor have the ever been, the current priority.As an outlander I fully
support and endorse that position.
Duckhunter | 1:29 p.m. Nov. 23, 2011 Highland, UTBYU would
have been their main TV attraction and the most valuable school they had in
anyone the least bit surprised why BYU is so hated?For some
inexplicable reason, Y fans and their school have this wild delusion that it's
their world and every other school simply lives in it.You give me
one single valid example of HOW you can possibly claim that BYU would've been
the premier program in the Big East... when teams like Boise State, Cincinnati,
West Virginia and others there have so far seen more BCS action than BYU ever
will.What world do you live in, where a team who hasn't ever taken a
whiff of the BCS goes to the table and bosses everyone around? Let me repeat:
BYU... has... done... absolutely... nothing... in... the... BCS.I
got news for ya. BYU football is terrible right now. Terrible. Yet you think
BYU's the best team in the Big East? That is unconscionable.And
here's some more truth... this year's Y squad would be lucky to reach 5 wins in
the current Big East.Unbelievable. Just unbelievable.
Bluto | 3:51 p.m. Nov. 23, 2011 Sandy, UTBYU held all the
cards. Seriously, why would BYU give up what it already has? -----------To get what it doesn't have.
BYU has just sealed itself into irrelevance. Funny thing is that the powers that
be are to arrogant to realize what they have done.
In Stitches | 4:35 p.m. Nov. 23, 2011 Provo, UtahLess money, equal
or less TV exposure, and a good chance of no BCS access in 2013. How
exactly is BYU missing out?-------------So...No BCS access in '13 < No BCS access everGotcha.
Not a big loss, the BE move was risky, especially if they were going to have to
wait 1-2 years to move. All this does is make me miss the days of Big 12
speculation - that is where BYU missed the boat. I still have my fingers crossed
that we can keep scheduling good teams 5-years out and (less importantly) get
better bowl games, but I'm feeling skeptical.
I'm amazed at how many of the comments on this article are from trolls. I'm also
amazed that BYU-leaning commenters acknowledge them.If a commenter
makes a comment, but no one acknowledges it, was that comment really made?Tch-tch.
The Big East is a joke. They are now inviting San Deigo St instead of BYU. Now
there's a football power for ya. BYU isn't hurt by not going to the Big East
HOWEVER they really BLEW IT by not making themselves attractive to the BIG 12.
ESPN reported today that the BIG 12 was already to pursue BYU but BYU would not
give up TV rights to its home games. Yes the Idaho St, Idaho, New Mex St, San
Jose St. home games that NOBODY watched!! So let me get this straight... BYU has
the chance to be in the same conference as Texas, OU, TCU etc... and instead
they would rather retain the TV rights to a pathetic home schedule of patsy's
like Idaho, Idaho St and so on.... Bronco says he is all about elevating BYU to
national prominence but his actions (and Tom Holmoe's) speak otherwise. BYU is
dooming itself to irrelevance on the national scene and this move to
independence could eventually demote BYU to the bottom of division one. Keep in
mind that the BIG 12 is also a GREAT basketball conference as well.
@A1994Who was in the drivers seat?If BYU was in the
drivers seat, the Big East would have acquiesced to BYUs demand to retain
broadcast rights... but they didn'tBYU cut off talks when the Big
East refused to allow BYU to retain its broadcast rights. It was the
Big East driving the final decision, not BYU.
re:In StitchesBYU isn't missing anything by not going to the Big
East but they totally BLEW IT by not pursuing the Big 12. ESPN reported today
that the BIG 12 was ready to pursue BYU but BYU would not give up TV rights to
home games --- Idaho, Idaho St, New Mex St, San Jose St.... So BYU trades a home
schedule full of WAC patsy's for a chance to play Texas, OU, Ok St, Kansas St,
TCU, etc...You don't elevate your program by filling your home schedule with
division one bottom dwellers that nobody watches nationally. BYU is quickly
moving toward irrelevance and anonymity.
Tomahawk Red"No BCS access in '13 < No BCS access everGotcha."No, I don't think you did. Or is
this your new prediction? Should we all "mark it down?"
patriot "BYU is quickly moving toward irrelevance and
anonymity."===What does that say about YOU that you claim
to believe this and still feel compelled to comment on every single article
Posting on every BYU comment board stating that BYU is "irrelevant" is
like calling up your ex-girlfriend every day to tell her that you are over her.
It's sad and nobody believes you.
Independence + 8yr ESPN contract + TV broadcasting rights > football only
member in East Coast conference with questionable future AQ status.Neither scenario is ideal, but the current arrangement is the better of the
re:KatiebuggSometimes the truth hurts. I backed up my opinion by
facts and I noticed you had no comment about the facts ... just the opinion that
BYU is headed toward irrelevance. So - again BYU had the chance to secure a BIG
12 invite and chose not to do so because it refused to relinquish its TV revenue
from home games... home games with some of the weakest and worst division one
re:Targetactually, what is more pathetic is attempting to put on a
happy face when the facts scream otherwise. Pretending that BYU staying
independent is a good thing is like saying you are so glad you got cut from the
high school basketball team because now you can be a better ward ball player.
It would have been GREAT to have both Utah and BYU in major BCS
conferences (Pac 12 and Big 12). Think about it...
Duckhunter said:"So in Jay Drews blog over in the Tribune he
provides a link to a poll taken by ESPN Soprts Nation. The poll asks who needs
who more, BYU or the big east. You can see the overall results 56% say the big
east needs BYU, 18% say BYU needs the big east and 26% say both are fine on
their own. You can then click on each individual state to see the results for
each of them. Interestingly every single state beleives it was the Big East that
needed BYU far more than BYU needed the Big East and it isn't even close for any
of them....."Ducky is excited!Polls can be skewed to get
any kind of results.Here is a poll question - Do you think BYU
should be the only school in the country to join a conference and keep its TV
rights intact?Uh, I think voters would body slam this and overwhelming say
SammFan said:"Keep up the good work, Tom H! I trust you 100%
that this was the right move. As an Alum who was deprived for years by the
Mountain West's TV contract, I'm ecstatic about the current deal. Anything less
is unnecessary. To those who might think "stability" comes from being
in a Conference, I say "Huh?!" Their overwhelming lack of stability is
why they want BYU."The Big Least is left with saggy seconds.PAC12, BIG10, BIG12, SEC, ACC and Big Sky conferences teams are already spoken
for.Nope. They needed BYU to keep AQ status, not want them.
I really hope BYU knows what they're doing. As a BYU fan, I wanted the Big 12,
then I wanted the Big East. I don't like independence. I think a conference
championship is important. I hate to say it but I've enjoyed watching the Utah
football games lately because there is a story there. They had a terrible start
to their PAC 12 season but have a chance at being in the conference championship
game if things fall their way. That's a more compelling story than what BYU has
going right now. BORING!!!!!!!! Sorry, but I have been a BYU fan since the
miricle bowl days and I'm losing my interest and patience. Even if the Big East
loses AQ status, being in that conference would be better for me as a fan than
this independence...stuff. If BYU is going to give up some TV rights and such,
I do agree I would rather them give it up for the Big 12 but is that still an
option? It would help if BYU would tell us why they made the decisions they
have. It's time to cut the you know what.
@Howard S.Oh. So the article on ESPN that says, "BYU cuts off
talks with Big East" actually meant to say "Big East cuts off talks
with BYU"? Does it occur to you that BYU can actually reject
the Big East? From everything I've read, the Big East is in the fight for its
existence right now. They wanted BYU as an anchor with Boise for their Western
Division. The Big East is the beggar here, not BYU. They should have taken
Howard S. either doesn't know the facts or refuses to see them, just like most
Ute trolls. San Diego State is the one who was not very
smart---with Utah, BYU, Boise State and Air Force leaving the mighty MWC maybe
SDSU could finally win the conference crown! I'm sure they could beat the likes
of New Mexico, UNLV, Wyoming and Colorado State on a regular basis and be the
new big fish in the little pond. Having them in the Big East is like having
Boston College in the PAC 10.2. LOL!!BYU is the only sachool in the
country with state-of-the-art broadcast facilities that are WORLD-WIDE and that
is their situation (some call it baggage) and ANY conference would be smart to
let them showcase every conference game played in Provo globally, with many fans
in all 50 States. ESPN is on board with that, but the Big East worried that Fox
or NBC wouldn't agree to it in a potential future contract. Too
bad, BE. Enjoy SDSU and their mid-major efforts; they won't keep AQ status
alive for you; not even close.
patriotWhat is MOST pathetic is commenting multiple times EVERY
article about a team you claim is irrelevant and that you don't care about.Me thinks you doth protest too much.Maybe if you say it
enough the blue fairy will come down and grant your wish....
"For some inexplicable reason, Y fans and their school have this wild
delusion that it's their world and every other school simply lives in
it."Could that be because "fans" from a team in a
whole other conference write as many comments on BYU articles as BYU fans do? So
much for the predicted irrelevance!
BleedRed | 12:56 p.m. Nov. 23, 2011 Sandy, UtahOn this Thanksgiving
holiday, I am sooooo thankful for Dr. Chris Hill!====You must
be thankful because of his awesomeness at picking really great basketball
coaches that you want to have stay for a long time? As I recall, a bunch of U
were calling for his job last Winter....
@ A1994"The Big East is the beggar here, not BYU."************If the Big East were the beggar they would have
acquiesced to BYU's retention of broadcast rights. They didn't.The
Big East concluded that BYU/BYUtv with all the attendant peculiarities are just
not worth the trouble.Oh and BTW, that is the same conclusion of the
fresnogirlYou know better than to expect them to actually use LOGIC!
Target tried that and patriot came back and proved target's point.
Dead? As in completely dead or "Friday-the-13th-Jason-Dead"?====As a Ute fan, even I would have voted that the Big East needs
BYU more than the other way around. The Big East is in trouble, and BYU is
sitting pretty well. The two things that have dissatisfied the Y
fans I know appear to be weakened November schedule coupled with a lack of
conference championship potential. The schedule should get better with time; the
latter would have been helped by the Big East, but at what cost. AQ status seems
more secondary to the fans I know.I don't see it as BYU being hard
to work with, but rather them making the smartest choice, given whatever package
the Big East presented.===While I think the Aggie fans in
question were tasteless, it hardly implicates the entire student body. Also, as
far as the aforementioned BYU scoreboard gaff, I actually thought that was
pretty funny. ==="Howard S. either doesn't know the facts or
refuses to see them, just like most Ute trolls."-toosmartforyouIf you think that is unique to Ute trolls, you are mistaken. But that's
part of the fun.
MiPYours was the best comment of the evening. Thanks!
The same "fans" that were drooling about wanting to join the Big Least
are now claiming that they never wanted this relationship. Byu "fans"
flip flop more often than John Kerry. Hilarious!
@Deep Thoughts"You must be thankful because of his awesomeness
at picking really great basketball coaches that you want to have stay for a long
time? As I recall, a bunch of U were calling for his job last
Winter...."Basketball? where did that come from? the articles
about Football and the screw up made by Tom Holmoe in trying to get into BIG
East and blowing it, my comment referred to the brilliance of how Dr. Chris Hill
got us into the awesome PAC-12.Geeez Deep Thoughts by Jack Handey,
focus on the topic, off topic arguments are pointless.Hang in there
Band of Lil Brother
@MiPCougar in Ute clothing.A little bit obvious!You validating the scoreboard incident speaks volumes about your true
character and exactly who you are.It is what it is, Band of Sisiters
I got my frowny face on about BYU football in 2013. Yep, it's so depressing.
Hand me a kleenex and call the pharmacy to get me some more happy pills.Patience BYU fans. We will get there!Who can complain about
all of these games on TV, the coverage was great and now basketball season is
getting started.I pity the poor Utes for what's about to happen. Can
that program suffer another coach being fired?Now, I'm smilin'!
Good to see it die, it was a bad fit in all regards.
I think it's kind of funny that Cougar fans blast the Big East as a conference
while ignoring the fact the Big East will be happy to have SDSU as a
"travel partner" for Boise State, their real target. How does it feel
to have your team relegated to being Boise's "travel partner" where
the national stage is concerned. Enjoy your non AQ independent status while Utah
shoots for the Rose bowl every year.
Sammy-That sums up the Y's problem - it is prime football season and
Y fan's are moving to basketball smack?
I for one am glad BYU is remaining independant in football. I have watched
several games live and watched the rest on tape delay. I love it. Only time will tell if the Big East move was a bad or good one depending on
your prospective. Who knows but what other opportunities are currnetly in the
making? Fans and trolls alike are not part of the negotiations and simply and
thankfully do not know. In a couple of years, the current landscape
of college football is likely to change again and the greatness of the Big East
could easily be irrelevant. I would like to see a playoff that would be bigger
and better than the current bowl structure.
@tomahawk redYou have a real problem with reading comprehension so
let me dumb it down a little bit and we'll see if that utah education can
actually grasp reality.1st of all I never said BYU would be the
"premier" team in the big east although your assertion that they are
"terrible" certainly shows your lack of football acumen.I
said BYU would be the main tv attraction and the most valuable school the big
east would have had in their negotiations of a new contract. That is inarguable.
BYU is the only one of those schools with its own tv contract and they make more
in 2 games than the big east schools make for an entire season. BYU has the
largest fanbase and most tv sets of any of those schools. You can try to argue
otherwise but you'll look even more foolish that you already look. Without the rights to BYU home games their future contract will be greatly
diminished and that is why they wanted BYU. Sorry to break it to you
but those are just the facts regardless if how badly utah trolls wish it wasn't
A football season with one game left and a post season bowl? It's over in this
time zone. Your basketball fear and insecurity is showing... as it
@sammyg | 7:15 p.mA football season with one game left and a post
season bowl? It's over in this time zone.**********When your
remaining football season consists of a meaningless game in the islands and the
Armed Forces bowl, its easy to consider the season over.On the other
hand, when you are still in contention for the division and conference
championship, and a BCS bowl game... well... the season still holds a lot of
@Howard S.Utah contending for a BCS Bowl?Speaking of
shams....USC is the best team in the South, always will be. But for
their sanctions....Utah? LOLThe...Red Rocks/Red Tailed
Hawks/Ecclesbirds/Utes... don't have to play Stanford or Oregon as part of the
Pac 10 appeasement with Utah, in which the League is not paying them equal
revenue shares, for 4 years.I would love to see Utah play Oregon or
Stanford for the Title, for it would forever establish once and for all, on
National TV, just what a joke and paper tiger Utah really is and always will be
and it will usher in with style The Tom Lovat Years Part-Deux.We can
Bluto,I would love to see Utah play Oregon or Stanford for the Title, for
it would forever establish once and for all, on National TV, just what a joke
and paper tiger Utah really is and always will be and it will usher in with
style The Tom Lovat Years Part-Deux. Wow..... what a nice little
rant, hope you took a breath or two while you were typing that. Like most
Cougar fans, you're more interested in the Utes outlook and schedule than your
own. Pretty much says it all, thank you for your validation.
@ BlutoUSC the best team in the South? Didn't have to play Oregon
or Stanford?I guess it really would be a sham for Utah to represent
the south without playing the best teams or being the best team in the
division.It might be reminiscent of the sham of BYU being awarded
the national championship without playing the best teams in the country and by
virtue of a victory over a 6-5 Michigan team.But, lets at least get
your facts straight...Utah gets a 0% Pac 12 payout in 2011, 50% in
2012, 75% in 2013, and a 100% share in 2014. That's three yeas of
graduated payouts, not four. And another thing for Cougar fans to
consider is that in two of those three years Utah's Pac 12 share will be greater
than or equal to BYU's ESPN contract payout.As for hope... That's
about the only chance BYU has for a BCS bowl game.
daddman54 | 9:09 a.m. Nov. 25, 2011 FARMINGTON, UT"Like
most Cougar fans, you're more interested in the Utes outlook and schedule than
your own. Pretty much says it all, thank you for your validation."Says the Ute posting on the BYU article....
I would love for Utah and BYU to play on national TV so that, once and for all,
the nation could see what a joke and a paper tiger BYU really is.....oh
wait....didn't that already happen this year?BYU fans are funny!
@ laniusYou forgot to mention, media outlets already knows utah
sucks and realized there is no need to waste good quality air time in showing a
utah game on National TV accept once or twice a year in order to fulfill a
contract.17 Colorado > 14 utah