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  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 11, 2011 12:30 p.m.

    Here's an idea:

    Go spend all day and all night bettering your financial situation instead of crying and blaming a rich guy for your failures

  • Gunner South Jordan, UT
    Nov. 11, 2011 12:39 p.m.

    No way! No way any of these people would be drug users! I can't believe that! You mean these people that have no jobs or nothing better to do than camp in our parks and streets would be shady enough to do drugs there in the park? Wow, I'm really surprised!

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    Nov. 11, 2011 12:41 p.m.

    Can someone please point out the subtle differences between the 'Occupy' bunch and Tea Partiers? Inquiring minds really want to know.

    Glad the streets and parks are finally going to be cleaned up. What a pathetic attempt of nothing this was.

    By their fruits ye shall know them.

  • Pete in Texas Copperas Cove, TX
    Nov. 11, 2011 12:51 p.m.

    So, it took a death for the police to decide that they OWS camping had gone on long enough? Pathetic. I'm all for an individual excercising their right to voice their opinion, but the OWS movement will go down as one of the all-time biggest blunders of trying to excercise that right. They'd denounce corporate greed and talk about how those with money were running and ruining their lives, and then sit down on their Iphones/Ipads/Laptops and blog about how much they've accomplished. (Which wouldn't have taken very long to do.) They'll go back to their lives and shop at Wal-mart and eat at McDonalds, and buy clothes at the malls and never understand that while they're cause was noble, it was totally devoid of any legitimate chance of changing anything because they weren't even sure what it was they were trying to do or how to effectively organize a movement. Camping and complaining in public accomplishes nothing except bad press and gets you free food from the homeless shelter. Individually, they'd have done more for themselves by spending that time and effort looking for a better job or volunteering somewhere. What a waste....

  • Conservative Veteran Layton, UT
    Nov. 11, 2011 12:58 p.m.

    There is a huge difference between the 'occupy' bunch and tea partiers. First, the 'occupy' bunch wants the government to give them more and intervene in business more. The tea partiers want the government less in their lives and to also stay away from businesses - intervening less.

    Second, there is not a single example of drug use, rapes, or illegal activities associated with the tea partiers. With the 'occupy' bunch, there is evidence of drug use, rapes, and many examples of illegal activities - such as occupying parks after dark and more than 10% increases in crime around areas where occupations have taken place.

    Do you want more examples? I can give more!

  • ouisc Farmington, UT
    Nov. 11, 2011 1:03 p.m.

    It is a shame that folks have had to die before the local authorities, namely Chief Burbank, realized this kind of assembly is simply dangerous.

    It looks like occupier deaths and suicides are becoming popular nationwide.

  • rogerdpack2 Orem, UT
    Nov. 11, 2011 1:03 p.m.

    my condolences for the deceased...

  • Bastiatarian TUCSON, AZ
    Nov. 11, 2011 1:06 p.m.

    Death, rape, drugs, theft, every manner of filth, etc., is par for the course for these Obamavilles. What do you expect when the country's most decadent navel-gazers get together?

  • DeltaFoxtrot West Valley, UT
    Nov. 11, 2011 1:11 p.m.

    If the Occupy folks really want to be effective they should be campaigning their respective states to call for a new Constitutional Convention. The Federal Govt. is rotten with greed and corruption and in need of a major overhaul.

  • LoveTheNews Centerville, UT
    Nov. 11, 2011 1:18 p.m.

    It's about time that these 'occupy' people are leaving the park. The city has worked hard on cleaning up Pioneer Park from the homeless and the druggies and then these protesters moved in, without any real purpose or plan of action. I mean I support the right of people to demonstrate and express their opinion. I am even in favor of expressing some anger towards blood-thirsty bankers who enjoy making risky business decisions without the willingness to pay the price when things go wrong.
    But in all this demonstrating there must be a purpose, an agenda and some kind of reasonable goal. These people however, dont have a unified goal; they dont have a real purpose. They just camp in the park and want people to give them handouts. Thats not a protest, that is a homeless camp. And that is why it needed to go.
    However, using the death of a camper who died from carbon monoxide poisoning as a reason is a just a convenient excuse. Otherwise the police would have to clear-out every hunting camp as there are people dying from carbon monoxide poisoning every year during the elk hunt.

  • HaHaHaHa Othello, WA
    Nov. 11, 2011 1:45 p.m.

    I can tell you the big difference between the OWS mess and the TEA Party rally's. The OWS crowd was able to carry on like a bunch of spoiled fools, for well over a month, while breaking all the rules and laws of public organizing and safety. They promoted a lot of filthy, unhealthy, criminal, and dangerous conditions with their mindless activities and protests. The rest of us, and the local governments, sat by and let it go on, because of political correctness. You know politcal correctness? That little issue or circumstance where the silent majority lets the VOCAL minority get their way, no matter the level of stupidity, because they are more vocal. Anyhow, if this would have been the TEA party rallying for more then 2 days, they would have been shut down, arrested and sent on their way. Thats the difference!

  • Jake2010 bountiful, ut
    Nov. 11, 2011 1:49 p.m.

    Please flee all the way to Mexico and don't ever come back until you pursue nobler causes than the occupy rubbish will ever even come closer to being!

  • Canuk SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Nov. 11, 2011 1:53 p.m.

    This can be laid at the feet of the police chief, the mayor, and the president! They all supported this, they gave into the filth and the dirt and the drugs and everything else that has gone on in these "camps". This property does not just belong to the police and the mayor and the city, it belongs to the people who pay the taxes.
    And yes, counter intelligence - if they can't see the difference they were looking in another direction. The Tea Party people left the places cleaner than when they arrived anjd they arrived during the day and left before night fall. There was no camping, no drugs, and they showed respect to the police and didn't call them pigs, as the protestors have done.
    It's about time they were cleared out.
    By the way, drove past this morning a huge contingency of police, tv crews etc., wondered what had happened. Sad for the fellow who died, but it could've been predicted!

  • Say No to BO Mapleton, UT
    Nov. 11, 2011 2:13 p.m.

    Chief Burbank, the only law east of the Jordan River.
    Who allowed overnight camping where no such ordinance exists? Chief Burbank.
    Seriously, on what basis did he issue camping permits at Gallivan and Pioneer?
    Then again, it is Chief Burbank. His position on illegal aliens is equally disturbing.
    I hope a lawsuit comes of his unilateral violation of the law.

  • Pugman TREMONTON, UT
    Nov. 11, 2011 2:27 p.m.

    Is this the same Chris B that spends almost all of his time bashing BYU. This is the first rational thing you've said......I believe we've found common ground.

  • LDSareChristian Anchorage, AK
    Nov. 11, 2011 2:34 p.m.

    LoveTheNews posted:
    However, using the death of a camper who died from carbon monoxide poisoning as a reason is a just a convenient excuse.

    I think you unfair. How is someone strung out on drugs suppose to recognize CO2 poison amongst the other symptoms?

    Good move on part of Salt Lake City police.

  • SLCBob SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Nov. 11, 2011 2:35 p.m.

    Hands off the Occupiers. The death had nothing to do with them. I'm amazed at how many people can be duped into supporting the ruling class.

  • Duh west jordan, ut
    Nov. 11, 2011 2:46 p.m.

    @Chris B

    Wow, I am in agreement with Pugman, first time I have ever agreed with you. If Occupy SLC thinks they are going to change a National issue by sleeping in tents hanging around doing nothing but causing an eyesore, then in all their time there they haven't learned anything. The camping will do nothing to help their cause.

  • Doug10 Roosevelt, UT
    Nov. 11, 2011 2:57 p.m.

    Death, rape, drugs, theft, every manner of filth, etc., is par for the course. What do you expect when the country's most decadent navel-gazers get together?

    And I thought he was talking about the people elected to the white house.....

    Isn't it better we sit in our houses and think how much better we are and we watch things like the GOP debates conducted in well lit auditoriums in front of tv cameras with moderators. And they interview men who have taken jobs away from thousands, they interview adulterers who are now running for president of this country, they ask questions of someone who has paid women not to prosecute him.

    As long as we sanitize our interests and stop the hooligans who have an issue with wall street and do not have a way to communicate it other than to give of their time as they may have little else to give.

    What about the mote in our eye?

    Taxes are paid to build roads, schools and bridges. IN USA taxes go to corrupt bankers and wall street companies. If you have an issue with that complain or camp out, but you should take issue with it.

  • Christy Beaverton, OR
    Nov. 11, 2011 3:00 p.m.

    The Occupy Wall Street protests occurring around the country will continue to advance in other ways. We're not giving up on the message that Wall Street needs to be reigned in and kept out of politics.

    Oh, also, Obama's going to win 4 more years, and we're going to get the House back.

    My prediction.

  • giantfan Farmington, UT
    Nov. 11, 2011 3:06 p.m.

    Re: SLCBob,

    The death had nothing to do with the occupiers? Seriously? The man who died WAS ONE OF THEM! And preliminary reports say he died of carbon monoxide poisoning and drugs. If true, then it's only validation that the rest of them should have to pack up and leave, that they're only a burden on society, on those that work hard and actually contribute something!

  • Howard S. Taylorsville, UT
    Nov. 11, 2011 3:12 p.m.

    The vast majority of occupiers left the park weeks ago.

    They left their tents, however, to create the illusion of occupation.

  • newsy Richfield, UT
    Nov. 11, 2011 3:14 p.m.

    This incident is a throw-back to the '60's, where sex, drugs and rock-and-roll were the big anti-establishment mantra. Is it really different now or did we expect to see anything different. History just repeats itself.

  • 3grandslams Iowa City, IA
    Nov. 11, 2011 3:16 p.m.

    It's about time. What a disgraceful protest. Shame on city leaders that it took someone to die before they took action.

  • ignoranceisbliss Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 11, 2011 3:20 p.m.

    Right, as if any of you care what happens in Pioneer Park! I agree with the occupiers that no one would have known about this man's death if they had not been there. The homelessness and drug dealing was never eradicated from Pioneer Park! Sheeple, sheeple, come on, why are you so bitter at the bunch of people trying to exercise their freedom of assembly and speech rights? If you want to remain ignorant to everything going on around you, that is your choice, you have every right to exercise it. These people (occupiers), on the other hand, want to let the government know that they are not happy the way things are. Oh, by the way, staying home and voting obviously has not worked for decades now because the choices have been corrupted and bought out by corporations. Vote for Romney and you vote for McDonald's and the ongoing mistreatment of animals because of the massive food production it forces on American farming. Watch Food. Inc. and tell me what's going on in this country is not horrible. At least the occupiers are trying to change something, anything, I am grateful for their efforts on my behalf!

  • TRUTH Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 11, 2011 3:32 p.m.

    Becker, Rocky, Burbank ALL supported these protestors.....right up until someone died......

    I hope this family sues the city for millions, that ought to get the Mayor and SLC to wise up!

  • Anti Bush-Obama Washington, DC
    Nov. 11, 2011 4:18 p.m.

    Most people on this comment board are supporting facism. They also act like there are jobs everywhere but in reality, theres not. 20% or more are unemployed because there are no jobs. Of course the they don't report this number of unemployed because not all of this can recieve unemployment anymore.

    I think most people don't even believe how in deep our economy is in it right now unless they hear from some establishment clown like Romney or Obama.

  • JRJ Pocatello, ID
    Nov. 11, 2011 4:38 p.m.

    Perhaps getting some education (being able to formulate proper sentences) might help give your cause some credence. I do not see what camping on the streets, destroying public and private property, holding drug fest and sexual orgies will do to change Wall Street. The really rich are probably conducting business from home while the people you are making miserable are those who are just middle class secretaries, public servants and officers of the law who are required to uphold the laws YOU have endorsed. How do you change deep inbred deceit, dishonesty, corruption? Certainly not camping out. Pardon me, but it seems that the biggest problem here needs to rectified by.....gasp... a true come to Jesus moment. When we act like Him, there wouldn't be all this mess. And which of your number would you run for president to solve things?

  • scojos Draper, UT
    Nov. 11, 2011 4:41 p.m.

    Oh how worthless it was to throw all that good tea away. What good did it do when today's "tea partyer's" don't support another citizen's right to protest and free assembly. How easy it is to call them names. The original tea party participants were called traitors , and they started a revolution with real guns and many deaths.Today's tea partyers don't recognize that the fruits and
    action(s) of their "namesakes" are still necessary today.

  • speed66 Heber City, UT
    Nov. 11, 2011 5:18 p.m.

    The Occupy Movement is participating in the process. They have shaped the discussion and brought light to some significant issues. In that way they are very much like the tea-partiers. And, like the tea-partiers, there is not a complete consensus on their message and, yes, both groups have fringe members.

    Do you believe that the growing gap between the haves and have-nots is healthy for America? Why is it that our history shows that we were strongest, happiest and most productive when the middle class was thriving and when upward mobility was more than a slogan?

    While the Occupiers may not offer much in solutions, starting the discussion is a worthy objective and result.

    Unfortunately, it seems that many if not most on this thread have listened to their favorite hate-radio and distortion news stations to come to conclusions that are not representative of the facts.

    This country is on a path that is looking more and more like India...and that is a sad evolution.

  • Sandy Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 11, 2011 5:24 p.m.

    Tragic that this has happened. The OWS movement has been heading south for a while, and it's too bad that they have not allowed themselves leadership and organization. They have some important issues to bring forward, but their unwillingness to organize is undermining their cause and doing harm.

  • Bastiatarian TUCSON, AZ
    Nov. 11, 2011 5:34 p.m.

    >Most people on this comment board are supporting facism.

    That's right. We all believe in faces. I support the movement to promote faces. I think everyone should have a face.

  • sirald66 SLC, UT
    Nov. 11, 2011 6:51 p.m.

    The man was an adult and made fatal decisions -- this is not OWS's fault. Such things happen in our own neighborhoods, but we don't ban people from living on their own. The eviction is political, not about public safety.

  • Bebyebe UUU, UT
    Nov. 11, 2011 7:12 p.m.

    It's only wrong if your not a tea partier or a republican.

  • @Charles the greater outdoors, UT
    Nov. 11, 2011 8:06 p.m.

    Christy and Speed66: I've responded to your nonsense posts but the sensitive censors won't allow it.

    Suffice it to say the both of you are so wrong in all your comments.

  • Deborah Huntington, WV
    Nov. 11, 2011 8:49 p.m.

    There are many different groups represented in the OWS - the unemployed, students, veterans, teachers, nurses, chefs, and many other working people. They are not hippies or druggies!

    Many homeless, street persons and town drunks have been directed to the OWS camps, sometimes by law enforcement officers, perhaps hoping to bring down the protests.

    But no one has been turned away by OWS. They try in whatever way they can to help the down-trodden and share what they have with them.

    OWS will not stop. They will keep shining the light on the Wall Street corruption of our government.

  • American man WOODS CROSS, UT
    Nov. 11, 2011 9:17 p.m.

    A larg number of posters on this news vine are not familure with the U.S. Constitution and local laws. The 1st Amendment says Congress shall make no law an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press, or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, (inpart)

    Throwing rocks and bottles at police and screaming, yelling and cursing is not free speech or peaceable assembly and is in violation of local laws and should be arrested and jailed.

    Every thing I've read about the OWS's makes them outlaws and should be treated as such.

  • Billy Bob Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 11, 2011 10:10 p.m.

    Christy,

    Obama getting 4 more years and the dems getting back the house would be absolutely horrible for America. The Occupy (Fill in City here) protests are ridiculous and if you people get your way America will be permanently ruined. Thank goodness most Americans seem to realize how ridiculous you people are.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Nov. 11, 2011 10:37 p.m.

    It's this kind of mentality that makes me fear another four years of BO. It seems civilizations can't tolerate much more than two hundred years of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Greed, ignorance, and immorality takes over.

  • morganh Orem, Utah
    Nov. 11, 2011 11:06 p.m.

    @Deborah,
    You are right there are many different groups at OWS. WE have the Socialist group ACORN now doing business as the NYCC since they have lost Gov't funding for questionable practices. Their cover was blown by Fox News. The Socialist SEIU first proposed an Occupuy movement months ago. The Anti-Capitalist Michael Moore was welcomed with open arms as a keynote speaker as well as other radicals who have now hopped on their bandwagon.

  • 101Ways Taylorsville, UT
    Nov. 12, 2011 5:43 a.m.

    The biggest difference in the OWS and tea parties events is that Obama engineered the OWS to be his mindless followers to tax the rich. Hence the hands off notification the CIA or NSA issued to local law enforcement to allow the OWS carry on its march and protest on the rich. That is the only purpose of the OWS, to tax the rich more by pretending to have a civil cause endorsed by or created by our president. All the original individuals of the march in NY have disappeared when news and police tried to identify the individuals. This is An orchestrated event to put americans in a class war.

    That's why no one knows what or why this protest is being called. The poor, the unemployed, and homeless street urchins have been given an unfounded cause and a place to meet and greet without police interference or harassment. It was only a matter of time before deaths and drugs entered the marches becasue of the elements of society was initially designed to attract.

    After an initial group evolved the socialist greedy would jump on the band wagon to demand their share of others successes.

  • Richard Allan Jenni Ocean City, NJ
    Nov. 12, 2011 6:47 a.m.

    Long ago President John Kennedy (One reason he was murdered?) warned of "secret societies." Unfortunately those clandestine organizations are international in scope and are much more powerful than the hub of American capitalism symbolized by "Wall Street." Moreover, in Cleon Skousen's book "The Naked Capitalist" the story of the international banking cartel is told in greater detail- especially with regard to the Federal Reserve System.

    The Occupy Wall Street movement is therefore misguided. Worse, there is within its structure a socialist "gimme something for nothing" element that would further weaken America if successful.

    In contrast, the Taxed Enough Already and Constitutional Conservatives generally realize that our Constitution (as President Ezra Taft Benson sternly warned us) now "hangs by a thread." The international banking cartel (which does not include our community banks) threatens us all with their desire for a unified global government commonly referred to as the New World Order. The banking syndicate (along with our corrupt federal government, the global communists, extreme Islamists and the drug lords of Mexico) represents the primary threat to our national security- not US corporations which help provide American jobs.

    Answer? Reform our federal government and then eliminate the non-federal Federal Reserve.

  • Flashback Kearns, UT
    Nov. 12, 2011 7:00 a.m.

    They shouldn't have been allowed to camp there in the first place. Should have been gone weeks ago.

  • sfcretdennis Nice, CA
    Nov. 12, 2011 7:32 a.m.

    Conservative Veteran | 12:58 p.m. Nov. 11, 201Layton, UT I got news for you if the Tea Party had their way our sr. would be out on the streets. They want to take away our S.S. which we paid in to all our working lifes and they wont to keep our money and give nothing back that we paid.

    If the tea party had their way we would have 100,000 of people on the streets because they have no money and they, the Tea Party and the rest of the thieves in our Government well take and take and take they get the best pay and benefits and complain about the money our SR.'s get and our retired military it took me 21 years to get 53 1/2% of my pay and I help pay for my medical and dental, our government puts one 4 year term in office and they get 100% pay and 100% free medical now you tell me who is fooling who and who it steeling from who?

    Wake up people our government is full of thieves and they care nothing for us but them selifs.

  • Mountanman Hayden, ID
    Nov. 12, 2011 8:38 a.m.

    @ Doug. I agree with you that taxes are paid to build roads, schools and bridges and not to be given to bankers and Wall Street tycoons (corrupt or not), but who gave them the bailout? We should be protesting the White House and congress. Protesting wall street and banks is like blaming matches for arson or a pencil for spelling errors!

  • bgl Santa Monica, CA
    Nov. 12, 2011 9:01 a.m.

    I've never seen a thread of people so scared by a movement in my life. The Occupiers have occupied your minds and you conscience and I think that's exactly what they want. These kids are stronger than you and it scares you. And you should be scared. Your tactic of toadying up to the 1% is being rejected by more and more every day. Your candidate fumbled like a deer caught in the headlights and couldn't remember what he was against in the Rep. debates last week. On Dead to Red Tuesday--spurred by this great movement, Mississippi, Ohio, Maine and Arizona were put in CHECK by the people. To you, who have probably never given up a moment of comfort or sacrificed anything for anyone but yourself (certainly not your country--that's what poor people's kids are for, right)--you had better get with this movement, or scurry to the side before they bowl you over (at which point, feel free to scurry back to the front, claiming to be a longtime supporter).

  • Old Gregg Alpine, UT
    Nov. 12, 2011 9:04 a.m.

    @doug
    "Taxes are paid to build roads, schools and bridges. IN USA taxes go to corrupt bankers and wall street companies."

    Really? You have proof of this? Corrupt bankers huh? Wall street companies huh? What does that mean, a wall street company?

    The whole OWS movement is an absolute joke. I fall under the 99% but i wish I could distance myself somehow from them...oh wait, I can. I pay my taxes which puts me in the 53% category of Americans who pay taxes. That leaves 47% of Americans that don't pay taxes. Any guesses on what percent of the 99% make up the 47% of americans that don't pay taxes? I don't have facts of this but I would bet that nearly 100% of those protesters make up the 47% of non tax paying "americans."

    According to Doug my taxes go right into the hands of corrupt bankers. The government finds the most corrupt bankers and writes them checks with tax payer dollars. Makes sense if you DON'T think about it.

  • Rudedog Pleasant Grove, Utah
    Nov. 12, 2011 9:28 a.m.

    The only thing the Occupy Protesters did here and in New York, is public defecation and Urination, along with breaking the law by camping in public parks, and making a general nuisance of themselves, bad enough that they did not know what they want nor how to get it. Burbank and Becker should be replaced by a staff that know how to enforce the laws not ignore them to meet their own leftist goals...Oh wait that is what Obama does with Immigration.

  • TOO Sanpete, UT
    Nov. 12, 2011 9:28 a.m.

    This is getting ridiculous. A man gets shot in Oakland, there have been reports of rape, drugs, etc. and all Obama and his peeps can say is that they are in support of this nonsense.
    This is dangerous in many ways. I really do not feel bad for these people one bit. Boo hoo, they don't have a job that pays millions of dollars; other people do. How unfair!
    Heaven forbid you actually go apply your skills and work up the ranks like a lot of people have done in this country.

  • Wildcat O-town, UT
    Nov. 12, 2011 9:44 a.m.

    Let me explain the differences between the Occupy crowd and the tea partiers.

    Many of the Occupy Crowd don't have homes to go to after a rally. They have tried to better themselves, but are against a slippery slope and a government that wants them to stay where they are at. They DON'T want government handouts, they want fairness. They want representatives that have people's interests in their legislation, not lobbyists.

    The Tea Party wants all the benefits of government, but doesn't want to pay for them. They are happy to drive on Federal roads, eat food that is inspected by the FDA, be protected by the military, have a safe environment, etc. They are the epitomy of selfishness and greed. They would like to make a complex issue simple by blaming the poor and the hungry, but won't admit any possibility that the current system is operated solely for the benefit of the one percent. They believe in shared sacrifice so long as it is not them and they believe in compromise as long as they get all of what they want.

    They trivialize desperate people in desperate situations. What about, there but the grace of God go I?

  • TOO Sanpete, UT
    Nov. 12, 2011 10:25 a.m.

    Wildcat

    That is the most distorted piece of writing I have ever seen.

    The tea party does want to pay for the things they use. The government has taxed us to the roof and we can't pay anymore. There are 47% of Americans who don't pay any taxes and they still receive benefits.

    We are sick of the government interfering with everything we do. Once we pay for our house, we have to pay the government to live there, we have to pay for our own property that we legally buy, there is a tax on inheritance if my dad dies and leaves something to me, there is a government mandate to pay into Obama's healthcare, there is a tax for making money, there is a tax to pay for social security which I will never see, etc.

    I will pay the necessary amount to keep my country safe and running, but I refuse to pay for the person who does nothing to contribute to this country.

  • Samuel Jones SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Nov. 12, 2011 11:00 a.m.

    At first, I thought that, "We", as Americans NEEDED this to happen, but rules have been broken. (1) No violence - either side. (2) No deaths. I support the protesters all the way, but one person involved in the Occupy Protest broke a rule, they died. "We", as Americans can not allow this to happen. Please, "Think" again.

  • hapticz New York, NY
    Nov. 12, 2011 12:17 p.m.

    a minor distraction for the moment. one dead, yet thousands remain involved in something, whatever that 'something' is, we may never know. much like so many of these folks, any mundane reason to 'party' and, boom, everyone wants 'in' on the party. too much spare time on their hands? too much discretionary spending money at hand? even poor folks (i mean the really POOR, not this bunch) know better than to squander their time annoying the snobby wealthy and mess up a place. if they have money to BLOW on drugs/space heaters, then they ain't poor, then they're just stupid. oops, did i offend some people? so sorry.

    if they want to effect any sort of impact on the snobby wealthy, they need to organize. but that might cause HSA/feds to label them as some kind of national threat. (don't put anything past the snobby wealthy types, believe you me!) after all, it's so easy to 'buy people' when you have lots of money.

  • Bruce A. Frank San Jose, CA
    Nov. 12, 2011 1:28 p.m.

    I agree that these demonstrators should be camping on their senators and and representatives lawn, but the corruption in government will not be fixed with a constitutional convention. We have both elected and unelected officials who are flat out disregarding the constitution.

    The President is sworn, by the oath of office, to uphold the constitution. He stated several times that he doesn't like the constitution, and it is clear that his primary effort is to work around the constitution AND the congress itself, removing them from the constitutional process of making laws.

    A constitutional convention is dangerous due to the fact that once convened, nothing is off limits. There are thousands with political power and position who want to "fundamentally change" this great country and would exert arm-twisting influence to remove the limits the constitution places on government. The constitution does not "give" us rights. Those rights are inherent; they are not "given" to us by government. The bill of rights says that the government may NOT infringe on those rights that are imbued in us by our creator. What we need is moral people in office.

  • Christy Beaverton, OR
    Nov. 12, 2011 3:34 p.m.

    DN, why won't you post this?

    No matter what nonsense the right wing media is telling you about the Occupy protesters around the country, we are stronger than the lies and misrepresentations. We are made up of veterans, teachers, nurses, students, grandmothers, pilots, laborers and business owners. Whether you like it or not, we represent you and the raw deal you're receiving at the benefit of the very most wealthy, who all the rules are made for.

    As someone mentioned, the camps draw homeless and destitute people who inhabit every city in America. These people are not turned away. They're not ridiculed. They are fed.

    Idiot provocateurs and anarchists exist, but to be sure, they are the fringe of any movement.

    And if protesters aren't allowed to camp out in public places any longer, they will find new and better ways to occupy.

    You'll see.

    And as far as people doubting that Obama will win another term, all I can say is look at the competition. Just look at them. They are the weakest, most ridiculous, out of touch group of candidates who have ever run. Maybe the Republicans can get it together for 2016. But I don't know.

  • CJ Murray, UT
    Nov. 12, 2011 4:09 p.m.

    @ Christy

    Love your comments. "Wall Street needs to be out of politics", and "Obama gets four more years", and last but not least "the house goes back to the Democrats".
    Where do I begin? Obama bailed Wall Street out and they were his biggest contributors,no other President history has had closer ties to Wall Street than him, that is a fact. AND YOU WANT HIM RE-ELECTED?
    The next thing you need to get up to speed on is the Democratic controlled House under the scary tutelage of Dodd and Frank, they are the ones who forced banks to five loans to those who couldn't afford it making the Wall Street and bank bailouts in the first place!!! What in the world is your point? Your comments make about as much sense as the whole OWS movement in general and that is NO SENSE!

  • Rufio Saratoga, UT
    Nov. 13, 2011 7:25 a.m.

    I agree with the guy who said "Occupy SLC is putting a spotlight on untreated mental health issues, substance abuse, homelessness, and poverty in our community."

    Nationwide we are seeing a lot of the Occupy movement exhibiting symptoms.

  • Christy Beaverton, OR
    Nov. 13, 2011 3:19 p.m.

    CJ,

    Sorry, but it was Bush who bailed out Wall Street, not Obama.

    As far as Wall Street's choice for President? Thanks to new regulations, it's not Obama.

    Employees of Goldman Sachs -- which has been scrutinized for its role in the 2008 financial crisis and was forced to pay a record $550 million settlement last year as part of a fraud case involving one of the firm's subprime mortgage products -- rank as Romney's No. 1 campaign contributors.

    Goldman Sachs employees, along with their spouses, have contributed $352,200 to Romney, according to the center's research. That's more than seven times the amount they've given to Obama.

    Additionally, Bank of America -- which has recently drawn ire from politicians, including Obama, for its proposed fee on debit cards -- has similarly favored Romney with its campaign contributions. BofA employees have donated $112,500 to Romney, with $48,800 of that sum coming during the third quarter, according to the Center's research.

    Bank of America ranks as Romney's No. 9 contributor, while Romney has also received the most money among all the presidential candidates from Morgan Stanley, JPMorgan Chase and Citigroup.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Nov. 14, 2011 6:23 p.m.

    The rich who are keeping us from being prosperous is the president and congress.

  • Canuk SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Nov. 14, 2011 7:49 p.m.

    OWS doesn't have a clue! Obama is the friend of wall street and as said above has received more money than any other pres. He has also spent more money in 3 years than every president combined. Just take a look at who he is giving money to - his contributors - the people who gave him most of the money. They are being rewarded royally.
    You know nothing about the Tea Party. It is made up of people who have worked hard and long all their lives and are sick of the government taking more and more from them. They are worried about obama care and his death panels and don't think they are not there. They want their children to grow up in a free country and are able to aspire to become whatever they want. They are not wealthy. Most of them are just hard working, God fearing people.
    You should get to know them - maybe the Greatest Generation.
    Blame the colleges for the cost of education and the government.
    Random thoughts - rambling I know!