Oh please give him the job, even if just long enough for him to step down as the
If it were left to Howard Stephenson, U of Utah would be replaced with a
super-campus of University of Phoenix.
The main objections to Shurtleff seem to be "we always pick academics"
or sheer elitism and arrogance.This is a time when higher ed has
done only one thing well- increasing costs many times the rate of inflation for
decades, and turning out fewer graduates actually prepared for worthwhile
professional careers. If you want to keep on that patch to irrelevance, go
ahead and get another academic type.Every member of the search
committee should be required to read the excellent Deseret News series on
BYU-Idaho's innovative approaches and willingness to change the way they have
always done things.There are plenty of career academics to coach
Shurtleff on any actual academic issues, but they need a different vision, and
asking different questions at the top.
If the U of U wants any respect by their peers, then giving the job to Shurtleff
is social suicide. He wouldn't even have the respect of the U's own professors
and staff.But then again the U could do worse.
Despite anyone's personal feelings, universities are a unique animal. The
reputation of a university rests primarily on the collective reputation of its
faculty. Most academics are not going to come to or stay at an institution where
the president has no background in academia (other than as a student), and will
be hard-pressed to come up to speed quickly on the issues surrounding research
and university-level instruction. If Mark Shurtleff or his staff had done any
research into the requirements for the position, he would have spared himself
the embarrassment of applying, then not getting selected.As much as
I'd like to see Mark Shurtleff replaced as AG, this application will quickly
find its way to the circular file.
If Howard Stephenson had his way we'd have a business man running the state's
colleges, would he prefer to have academics running businesses? Everyone wants
business people running things these days, but how often have you heard of our
universities going bankrupt? Academic should be running universities; with
respect most business people haven't got a clue about education......
As a U alum and a former Shurtleff co-worker I can't imagine that a man who so
easily bows to the whims of the legislature would stand up for the interests of
the U. It's not about whether Shurtleff is a Conservative or a Liberal. It's
about the ability to be independent in the face of political pressure. I
recommend others do what I'm doing - contacting people known to have influence
in the selection process and telling them we'll stop our contributions to the U
if Shurtleff is chosen as president.
The reality is that Shurtleff is not being considered seriously at all. The U being the flagship institution with its top-ranked medical school,
its recently surpassing MIT in spinning off new business ventures from faculty
research, and world-class research and educational program rankings, the Utah
Board of Trustees isn't going to risk all that with an "unknown"
non-academic, local politician.What's needed is someone who has
risen through the ranks of academic leadership positions at other top-ranked
universities (say, deans, provosts, and academic vice presidents) who not only
can demonstrate academic abilities to pull grants and publish relevant research
in top journals, but also can attract funding and have excellent public
relations skills to address a generally hostile legislature, but supportive
alumni and business community.Any local political figure for the
position is too risky as it may turn off donors and alums with opposing
political views.Shurtleff will not have credibility with faculty who
have pulled research grants, published in top journals, or patented new
technology. His appointees would be questioned, and faculty would resent being
evaluated by someone who has never achieved the professional demands necessary
to hold a real academic position.
This just shows how out of touch Shurtleff is: out of touch with Higher
Education; out of touch with voters; out of touch with his own distorted sense
of his own abilities and qualifications.
I am also a U of U alum. I also used to work with Shurtleff. Without even
knowing the other candidates, I can guarantee he is wholly unqualified compared
to other candidates in the mix. Would you get Kyle Whittingham to coach the
Utah Jazz? Would you get Jerry Sloan to coach the U of U football team. In
other words - Shurtleff wouldn't have the first clue what to do or where to
start. Let alone, the concerns that he is and has ever been nothing more than a
party "yes man".
please get him a job.
Baron, is right, this is just so much smoke in the wind. No one is ever going to
consider him for this job, but it speaks volumes that he would consider himself
for the job. I would "suspect" that his arrogance comes from the
attittude displayed by Stephenson and others on this thread that the university
should be a place where students go to get job skills. That vision of a
university is appalling. To describe degrees in art, philosophy, music,etc. (my
list of degrees that probably don't lead to "jobs"), confirms what
I've all ways suspected, the leadreship of Utah has no souls. David
Brooks, who I respect as a thinker, but rarely agree with as a columnist wrote a
book last year where he pleaded for Americia to not cut liberal arts programs in
schools in a frenzy to cut spending. His point was that such programs develop
the soul, and heaven knows we need citizens with souls now.
Shurtleff would not be able to handle the job as president of the U. He will
not be selected. He is not doing a very good job as the attorney general and
there is a good chance he will not be re-elected there as well. He knows this,
he is just looking for a job. Perhaps Energy Solutions has a place for him.
This would be great news for illegals. In State Tuition would end. Tuition would
become free and would be for all illegals in state and out.
Just look at the last few individuals picked by the Board in Utah as Univ.
Pres.- the U. is in trouble on this one- get ready for an interesting pick and
one that will damage the image of HE in Utah even further
Mr. Shurtleff is not qualified period. His interst does demonstrate at out of
control ego and flames the republican dislike for higher public education and
the well educated. I hate to see the threat of the U. being controled by
Shurtleff and his political cronies.
The fact that Stephenson endorses him is enough to tell me his appointment would
be disastrous. Even if his lack of background or experience didn't say that
I would think that they'd at least TRY to get someone with some integrity, some
character, some predictability, and some awareness of what is needed in society.
He's a nice guy, but I'd bet my mortgage that his academic record would not
qualify him to be a professor, let alone president of a university. It's
amazing that he even considers himself qualified for this job. Some people
don't know how much they don't know.
Many people made light of Mr. Shurtleff before he became the state's attorney
general, but he has lasted long in that position. He's a cancer
survivor.Don't discount his ability to achieve his goals.
Reactions mixed: some laughed, the rest laughed harder.
With his deep cultural insight he should apply first at the Universidad de
Mark Shurtleff would be a very BAD choice and such a selection would risk
alienating alumni that support the university, it's programs and students.
"Ott said while anyone can apply for the president spot, the last search
committee pretty much settled on final candidates who had experience in
university administration. "When you look for a major Research One
university president, what you're looking for is someone who has experience at
the president's level at a lesser institution, or someone who possibly has been
at a number-two level at a comparable institution," That's the
search model that has worked well in the past. That's the search model that
must be applied now.The is the stat's flagship university with a
world class medical school, strong and robust academics, and tremendous research
base. Shurtleff has no business even talking about an appointment as president.
No mixed reaction from here-- We didn't want him for another term as AG, and as
an Alum, U won't support him for President of the U.
He should find a job elsewhere; not as AG and U president.
Mark has failed as AG, Now he wants to fail as a President.Mark is a
@AlanSutton--you can't be serious! You are recommending Mark Shurtleff as
president of the U because he's lasted awhile in the AG's seat and he's a cancer
survivor?His durability in his AG post only speaks to his political
machinations and maneuverings, which have been abundant. Not sure what surviving
cancer has to do with leading a Pac12 research university.As has
been pointed out, the prevailing characteristic he demonstrates is a
larger-than-life ego. It would take a lot of chutzpah for someone as unqualified
as Shurtleff to even apply for the job.I'm not sure what Senator
Stephenson is thinking. How does it serve the taxpayers of Utah to have
Shurtleff head the UofU?