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  • Big Hapa Kaysville, UT
    Oct. 18, 2011 11:24 a.m.

    Man really, who cares about the big 12 {actually 10, weird math} this story keeps coming up. There is no story because nothing has been offered to reject so this is an article about nothing.

    Why am I blogging about nothing ?

  • Portland Trail Blazers Sandy, UT
    Oct. 18, 2011 11:40 a.m.

    Thats cool BYU will be playing Wisonsin and Wazzou.

  • RSLJAZZBYUUTAH Syracuse, UT
    Oct. 18, 2011 11:51 a.m.

    Seriously, lets stop talking about the possibilities, because if there hasn't been an invite then why does any care anymore, I use to be a sucker for rumors, but they are all rediculous, such as WV and Louisville going to the big 12 after agreeing yesterday that the penalty for leaving the Big East would be at least a 10 million buy out. Why would they sign that and then want to leave the next day.

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Oct. 18, 2011 11:51 a.m.

    I just as soon not hear any more speculation about the BIG 12. Just the facts mam! It seems to me that the BIG 12 would certainly make public any talks with BYU and so far I have heard on none. BYU is NOT a candidate as far as I know.

  • miffedsportsfan Sandy, UT
    Oct. 18, 2011 11:56 a.m.

    Actually Washington State will be playing Wisconsin.
    You got your Cougars mixed up.

  • Monty1 South Jordan, UT
    Oct. 18, 2011 12:03 p.m.

    BYU's fans want to see BYU in the Big 12. BYU should do what it takes to get an invite.

  • WON84 PLANO, TX
    Oct. 18, 2011 12:08 p.m.

    I'd much rather be reading articles on Independent scheduling.

    That being said, BYU says little and prefers to keep everything confidential.

    So, any continued discussion is likely as a result of something from the other side. Just something to keep in mind.

  • Johnny Triumph American Fork, UT
    Oct. 18, 2011 12:26 p.m.

    Tom Holmoe did nothing to stop any rumors this past weekend. I'd say it's still a long shot but it's certainly still an option. I just don't think BYU would find it in their best interests...why tie yourself down to a conference? Just for a few more million $ for an athletic dept that is mostly self-sufficient already?

  • TrueBlue Orem, UT
    Oct. 18, 2011 12:34 p.m.

    Don't be too surprised to see BYU accepting a invitation to join the Big 12 as soon as Missouri officially accepts an invitation to join the SEC.

  • Utes Fan Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 18, 2011 12:36 p.m.

    When BYU and Washington State play, I will definitely root for the Cougars :).

  • eastcoastcoug Danbury, CT
    Oct. 18, 2011 12:39 p.m.

    I don't trust Holmoe or BYU to be ambitious enough. Therefore, keep the rumor mill going and fans agitated enough to demand change. We didn't just go independent to get out of a 2nd tier conference with a bad TV contract. We stepped out to show that we wanted a better conference alignment - one with BCS possibilities, regular scheduling vs. better competition, and a bowl arrangement. It will always be dicey as an independent.

    Let me ask you all how many of you want to be playing teams like Idaho State and Hawaii in the last weeks of the season for the rest of your lives???

  • Alterego Ogden, UT
    Oct. 18, 2011 12:40 p.m.

    maybe....
    The picture will get clearer once Missouri future is solidified. Until then, we will continue hearing from bloggers touting their various "well placed" and "impeccable" sources and the members of the local media who know any story mentioning BYU-Big XII draws readers like moths to flame.

  • riddlemethis Clearfield, UT
    Oct. 18, 2011 12:42 p.m.

    Hey Dnews:

    Here's a tip: instead of titling an article in the form of a question about BYU's Big 12 candidacy every 8 hours, why don't you go find out whether or not it's going to happen. If it's not definitive, then it hasn't happened yet. You've been relying on columns addressing the BYU Big 12 rumor for months. Enough already.

  • PerfectCougar Payson, UTAH
    Oct. 18, 2011 1:16 p.m.

    Where can one see the schedule for next year?

  • RCR Kaysville, UT
    Oct. 18, 2011 1:22 p.m.

    WON84,

    I'm with you. I want to hear about next year's schedule more than joining the B 12 right now. Do we have a full schedule or are we still trying to fill some spots?

  • S.Andrew Zaelit Deseret, UT
    Oct. 18, 2011 1:23 p.m.

    Yawn!! Wake me when it happens. All this Big 12 talk is just plain boring.

  • Bluecat82 Minneapolis, MN
    Oct. 18, 2011 1:30 p.m.

    I can live with playing Washington State...

    I can also live with playing Hawai'i every year, too. Good rivalry game.

  • alternate Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 18, 2011 1:46 p.m.

    There was no question that once TCU became a "viable" candidate, they moved to the top of the list. BYU still have a huge "barrier" called Sunday to overcome. I believe that the so-called TV problems are not. With BYUTV in the 3rd tier behind the the ABC, ESPN, Fox, etc., that in the end should prove to be helpful.

    Having said all that, the key to the BCS with or without a conference is winning games. If BYU had not squandered the Texas game and given the 20 something free points to Utah, they would be very much in the BCS picture this year not unlike Boise State. Even in a conference you still need to win to get a BCS game. Utah Boise State, Hawaii and TCU showed how to do it. Play 4 or 5 name games and win them. Then win the easy ones and a BCS game is yours.
    Utah and TCU will have their hands full the next few years. Boise State not so much if they can keep status quo.

  • cougarNV Las Vegas, NV
    Oct. 18, 2011 1:48 p.m.

    If the Cougars get into the Big 12, I will love the Football. But I will LOVE the basketball too!

    Go Cougars!!!!

  • Snack PAC Olympus Cove, Utah
    Oct. 18, 2011 1:52 p.m.

    PerfectCougar

    BYU's schedule for 2012:

    home: Washington State, Oregon State, Weber State, Utah State, Hawaii, Idaho
    road: Georgia Tech, Utah, Boise State, Notre Dame, New Mexico State, San Jose State

  • flynn is the coolest Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 18, 2011 2:28 p.m.

    The fact that BYU continues to schedule games- 2012 is done with the addition of WSU- suggests that TH knows that a Big XX invite may never come. However, to make lemonade out of lemons, he's putting together some great games for the future. I know it's difficult having a home schedule with a lot of lower end teams, but the future looks much brighter. The Big XX minus Mizzou is less attractive anyway.

  • SoonerUte Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 18, 2011 2:44 p.m.

    Don't forget that nobody in the Big 12 has signed anything.

    They have an agreement as to how they could stabilize the league... equal revenue sharing, tv revenues committed to the league for 6 years, the TLN reigned in... but nobody has signed on to that deal yet.

    If Missouri leaves, only 8 original Big 12 members remain. With the TLN under control, the Pac-12 could make a play for UT, OU, OSU, TT and create the toughest conference in the nation. The Big East would take KU, KSU, ISU, BU in a heartbeat.

  • Mormon Ute Kaysville, UT
    Oct. 18, 2011 2:58 p.m.

    Cougar Fans,

    Check out Gordon Monson's column in the other Salt Lake paper today for a huge dose of reality regarding the true quality of your football team and most of its opponents. Ouch!!!

  • Cougar Blue N. Las Vegas, NV
    Oct. 18, 2011 3:10 p.m.

    The Big 12, minus Mizzou, is not less attractive if West Virginia were to enter the picture. With new teams like BYU, TCU, Louisville, and W VA. the conference will do quite well, thank you very much. Let's hope it happens.

  • SportsChemistry ENGLEWOOD, CO
    Oct. 18, 2011 3:30 p.m.

    After looking at the future schedules, if UCF, Houston and Boise St decide to join the Big East, the only team on BYUs schedule that isnt in an AQ conference is Utah State (and I guess Notre Dame technically.) Not a bad turn of events.

  • WON84 PLANO, TX
    Oct. 18, 2011 3:30 p.m.

    "Utes Fan | 12:36 p.m. Oct. 18, 2011
    Salt Lake City, UT
    When BYU and Washington State play, I will definitely root for the Cougars :)."

    LOL

    @RCR - Snack PAC is correct. I like it better than this season's but, hope 2013 on sees improvement. I wish it would hurry up a little too as the excitement over Big 12 talks would diminish if scheduling appeared to be coming along quite well. But, like many of the fans, I think Holmoe is actively engaged here and scheduling probably isn't front and center at the moment.

    BTW, the way the recent article on the Washington St. series is very confusing and makes it appear as if it is BYU traveling to Wisconsin as well.

  • cougar76 Raleigh, NC
    Oct. 18, 2011 3:33 p.m.

    2012
    9-1 Georgia Tech 9-8 Weber State
    9-15 @ Utah 9-22 @ Boise State
    10-5 Utah State 10-13 Oregon State
    10-20 @ Notre Dame TBA @ New Mexico State
    TBA @ San Jose State TBA Idaho
    TBA Hawai'i
    If the Hawaii game is away, we can schedule a 12th game. If possible, I would like to see the service academies on the schedule. Army, Navy and Air Force would be great in place of SJS, NMS, and UI.

  • Ravenal Somewhere in, Utah
    Oct. 18, 2011 3:34 p.m.

    @Mormon Ute,

    Gordon's column doesn't say anything many of us Cougar fans didn't already know. We've known all along that the tough part of the schedule was in the first 4 games and then it was cupcakes the rest of the way except for maybe TCU and Hawaii. Then again, the MWC and WAC were always loaded with cupcakes too.

  • Ravenal Somewhere in, Utah
    Oct. 18, 2011 3:36 p.m.

    BYU's official website used to have a link showing future opponents. They changed that a couple years ago when they revamped the website. I wish they would bring it back.

  • WON84 PLANO, TX
    Oct. 18, 2011 3:39 p.m.

    "Don't forget that nobody in the Big 12 has signed anything.

    They have an agreement as to how they could stabilize the league... equal revenue sharing, tv revenues committed to the league for 6 years, the TLN reigned in... but nobody has signed on to that deal yet.

    If Missouri leaves, only 8 original Big 12 members remain. With the TLN under control, the Pac-12 could make a play for UT, OU, OSU, TT and create the toughest conference in the nation. The Big East would take KU, KSU, ISU, BU in a heartbeat."

    Correct, TCU didn't demand the stability that BYU does.

    The Pac 12 super conference isn't viable for anything but, football really. I also don't see Texas parting with the Longhorn network or folding it into a regional TV contract with the Pac 12.

    The LHN has been reigned in enough to please remaining Big 12 members. This means not showing high school games. The Pac 12 expects more and it will not happen. Texas will not share revenue from the channel with other members.

    It's an exciting thought but, there are far more challenges here than there are even between BYU and the Big 12.

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    Oct. 18, 2011 4:44 p.m.

    I don't think BYU will join the Big 12.

    TCU was an easier deal, and I understand why they were picked to take A&M's spot.

    But it would seem that enough discussions have taken place that BYU would know if they were next in line to take Missouri's spot. And if they were, they would not have signed a home and home series with Washington State for 2013 and 2014. If they thought they were joining a conference, they would know that it is as complicated to cancel games as it is to schedule them in the first place.

  • The Deuce Livermore, CA
    Oct. 18, 2011 5:08 p.m.

    Welcome to the era of "Independence". Was there someone asleep at the wheel at BYU through all of this? Did anyone explore these options ahead of time. This mess really falls to Tom Holmoe and he should answer as to how we got in this mess. Scheduling teams like Idaho State, Univ. of Idaho, San Jose State. If this is all about exposure, then someone explain what type of exposure BYU is talking about. It seems that no one in the football program is focused on winning or tyring to schedule a competitive team. Are athletics in general starting to fade away at BYU?

  • Who am I sir? Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Oct. 18, 2011 6:27 p.m.

    @Snack Pac

    Much improved schedule for next year with 3-4 teams that will be in the top 50 - all those games on the road.

    Regarding this article:

    BYU will always be a candidate for the Big 12 - as long as fans will fall for the rumors.

    In a previous article I read where Navy is considered for Big East and Notre Dame considering a BCS conference affiliation. Already, in only the second year, BYU has risen to the top two in independence. All conference awards galore!!! (However, remember Army has two national championships.)

    My thought for future scheduling. Sign a 20 year agreement with Army for 12 gaqmes each year on a home and home basis. Army's home games could include Fort Hood, Fort Dix, and Tooele. BYU's home games could be in China, Mexico, Chile, Brazil... as the world is their campus.

  • Pac12Proud SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Oct. 18, 2011 6:27 p.m.

    The Deuce

    "Was there someone asleep at the wheel at BYU through all of this? Did anyone explore these options ahead of time."

    Good questions.

    byu's move to independence was clearly an effort to make byu relevant after Utah was invited to the Pac-12. Cougar nation bought into it. Now Utah might come off the schedule leaving byu with what?

  • owlmaster2 Kaysville, UT
    Oct. 18, 2011 6:55 p.m.

    The DN has to sell newspapers so they print what sells. Quite frankly I hope they succeed so we can get the real news on occasion.

    Being Independent sure has been a huge success. Playing for nothing but pride must be enough cause that's all bYu gets at the end of the season.

    As long as bYu won't play on Sunday, I don't see any major conference taking them.

  • Rational Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 18, 2011 7:05 p.m.

    alternate | 1:46 p.m. Oct. 18, 2011

    Having said all that, the key to the BCS with or without a conference is winning games. If BYU had not squandered the Texas game and given the 20 something free points to Utah, they would be very much in the BCS picture this year not unlike Boise State.
    ------

    Baloney. What has Colorado's record been for the last however many years? Pathetic. The Pac invited them because it is about fans, followers, and TV sets. Period.

  • Rational Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 18, 2011 7:08 p.m.

    Ravenal | 3:34 p.m. Oct. 18, 2011

    Then again, the MWC and WAC were always loaded with cupcakes too.
    ------------
    As is the Pac. The Utes' final 6 opponents have won exactly TWO FBS games besides their victories over each other, and neither of those, San Jose State and Fresno State, is a BcS school.

  • phantomblade Salt Lake City, Utah
    Oct. 18, 2011 7:17 p.m.

    The formula is always the same - an article about BYU to the Big 12, precipitates another rash of paranoid spamming by our little brothers on the hill.

    The Utes have assumed their assigned position at the bottom of a big boys' conference, but they're still trying to pretend that they're a big boy.

    Pathetic.

  • usbummer LEESBURG, FL
    Oct. 18, 2011 8:19 p.m.

    Actually, if I am not mistaken, it has been confirmed that BYU and the Big 12 have been in conversation about membership. No invitation has been extended yet. I am just a Big 12 fan and nobody has ever asked for my opinion - or ever will - but I would suggest to you that Missouri will leave the conference for the SEC within the week and soon thereafter BYU will be formally invited. This will be followed by Big 12 invitations to West Virginia and Louisville to bring the numbers back up to twelve. At least, that's the most common scuttlebutt in many sports oriented online publications.

  • owlmaster2 Kaysville, UT
    Oct. 18, 2011 8:39 p.m.

    Let's talk big boys phantomblade in Salt Lake City.

    Let's discuss the last score between Utah and bYu... 54 - 10

    Quite frankly, I'd rather be at the bottom of a reputable Conference than be at the top of nothing. bYu has no place to go. Zip....

    The Y can win every game, go undefeated and has won nothing.

    Utah is in the PAC 12 phantomblade, I'm sorry bYu isn't but that's the way it is. Let's play nice and cheer for one another except for that one game a year that we face off against one another.

  • 89Sooner Edmond, OK
    Oct. 18, 2011 9:04 p.m.

    Here's a Sooner and Cowboy fan hoping to see the Y come to Norman and Stillwater. Of course, I would also love to come to Utah. I think that you BYU fans are a little too paranoid. I think there are talks ongoing and that BYU presents a challenge or two. But, in the end, you have fantastic athletic programs and academic prestige and you're the best program out there.

    So, when Missouri leaves its friends and rivals on Friday, let's say that we invite BYU, Louisville and West Virginia. Here are some potential new divisions (I for one want 12 teams again with a championship game):

    East:

    WVA
    Louisville
    Iowa State
    Kansas
    KState
    Oklahoma State

    West:

    OU
    Texas
    TCU
    Tech
    Baylor
    BYU

    Of course, splitting OU and OSU into separate divisions would require that a cross division rivalry game occur every year. We wouldn't dare let the OU/OSU rivalry die the way the OU/Nebraska rivalry did. Potential cross divisional rivalries:

    OU/OSU
    BYU/KState
    TCU/Kansas
    Texas/WVA
    Baylor/Kansas
    Tech/Louisville

    Fun stuff. I'm really hoping it happens. I'm ready to move on and I really like the possibilities.

  • TXBYUFAN Spring, TX
    Oct. 18, 2011 9:13 p.m.

    Is this Deja Vu? I think I've read this article before. I think I've also read all these comments before. Is this just a reprint from a couple of weeks ago? Or yesterday, or the day before, or the day before that?

    I thought this was the Deseret NEWS not the Deseret RUMOR. Please quit printing unsubstantiated rumors and go back to reporting actual news.

  • hohum Saint George, UT
    Oct. 18, 2011 9:15 p.m.

    owlmaster2:

    It appears that you will get your wish, to be a bottom feeder in a "big" conference. Most fans would want to win rather than have a "moral" victory by loosing a close one to my brothers in the big boy conference.

    I don't believe most u fans accept a loosing season as ok as long as it is in a bcs conference.

    I think the y would be better to stay independent, choose who they want to join when the time is right. TV rights etc are important and the y has a great future and the big12 and big little east would love to get a share of that. I expect the y is not willing to give up that for affiliation with bcs. Until the offer is right, it won't happen and there will never be an offer to the y until they agree to share or cancel their contract.

    The u on the other hand was willing to go into debt to try and buy their way in. How much do they get this year, next?

  • 89Sooner Edmond, OK
    Oct. 18, 2011 9:22 p.m.

    Another expansion scenario that I would love would include BYU, Boise State and Air Force:

    North:

    BYU
    Boise
    Air Force
    Iowa state
    Kansas
    KState

    South:

    OU
    OSU
    Texas
    Tech
    TCU
    Baylor

    Rivals: BYU/OU, Boise/OSU, AF/Tech, ISU/Baylor, KU/Tech, KSU/TCU(Purple Trophy)

    or perhaps:

    East:

    Iowa State
    Kansas
    KState
    OU
    OSU
    TCU

    West:

    Texas
    Tech
    Baylor
    BYU
    Boise
    Air Force

    Rivals: OSU/BYU, ISU/AF, KU/Tech, KSU/Boise, OU/Texas, TCU/Baylor

    Or, we could just call them something ridiculous like Leaders and Legends:

    Leaders:

    Iowa State
    Boise State
    OU
    Kansas
    TCU
    Baylor

    Legends:

    BYU
    Air Force
    Texas
    Tech
    KState
    OSU

    Rivals: OU/OSU, Boise/BYU, ISU/AF, Texas/TCU, KU/KSU, Baylor/Tech

    Arrangement possibilities abound!

  • Big Pappy west jordan, utah
    Oct. 18, 2011 9:25 p.m.

    Sounds like more speculation and (as usual) no hard facts.

  • WhatsInItForMe Orem, Utah
    Oct. 18, 2011 9:52 p.m.

    I'm amazed at all the nuts still going on about Sunday play being an issue for the Big 12. Are you people for real? Or just trolls with nothing more intelligent to say?

    With Missouri leaving the Big 12, they either remain at 9 for a few years with the addition of TCU, or add BYU or another mid-major to get to 10 for 2012. They CAN'T add a Big East team until 2014 because of that 27-month deal.

    So, thoae talking about replacing Missouri with Big East teams don't know what they're talking about, and that includes sports writers across the nation, UNLESS they think B12 lawyers can circumvent the Big East's waiting period for teams leaving. Doubtful.

    The very fact that Holmoe said talks are ongoing means the Church hasn't said no. Period.

    Now we just wait and see.

  • Whoa Nellie American Fork, UT
    Oct. 19, 2011 8:25 a.m.

    (Ir)Rational "What has Colorado's record been for the last however many years? Pathetic. The Pac invited them because it is about fans, followers, and TV sets. Period."

    If "it" is about fans, followers, and TV sets then explain why utah was invited to the PAC. utah does not meet any of those criteria.

  • Y-Ask-Y? Provo, UT
    Oct. 19, 2011 9:12 a.m.

    don't write until you have something to write.

    BYU might be, maybe, possibly, optionally, perhaps... yada, yada, yada.

    We are tired of these same old stories as fillers.

    Dont write anything more about BYU and Big12 until there is something to write other than "maybe". We got that already the first fifty times you wrote it.

  • TrollPolice Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 19, 2011 9:16 a.m.

    owlmaster2

    What exactly do you "get" for being a bottom-dweller in a big boys' conference?

  • CougarBlue Heber City, UT
    Oct. 19, 2011 10:31 a.m.

    Dear EastCoastCoug you are clueless on Holmoe and BYU sitting back and doing nothing. Just because they don't fill the airwaves with stuff doesn't mean they are not working behind the scenes. BYU has, and always will, keep things close to the vest. You want them to agitate and push things and demand and use the media to get their way. They just go about it silently and it ends up very nice for them. With your attitude you should take the "coug" out of your moniker.

  • Mike W Syracuse, UT
    Oct. 19, 2011 1:29 p.m.

    As much as I would love to see BYU and Boise join the Big 12, I cannot envision they would take them over Louisville, West Virginia and Cincinnati. Bigger markets, better recruiting territory, solid overall additions (not just good at football i.e. Boise).

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    Oct. 19, 2011 1:55 p.m.

    TrollPolice:

    "What exactly do you 'get' for being a bottom-dweller in a big boys' conference?"

    (1) $4.6 million/yr in bowl revenue shares...
    (2) $20.8 million/yr in TV revenue shares...
    (3) Estimated $8-12 million in Pac-12 Network revenue shares...

    Total: $25.5 to $37.4 million per year.

    Plus better road game location, more interesting Home game opponents, stronger "Academic" affiliations with member institutions, and an unlimited delicious "monsoon-esque" flow of tears from our jealous mid-majored, Indy-WACky little brothers.

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    Oct. 19, 2011 4:18 p.m.

    @TrollPolice:

    "What exactly do you 'get' for being a bottom-dweller in a big boys' conference?"

    Today's $64,000 question and I'm entertained by the troll responses.

    For fans that have supposedly moved on, they have not. Because their team is floundering they have nothing better to do but complain about someone else's.

    I love the continued whining about the BYU schedule weekness but no Ute was complaining last year about their cupcake schedule at 8-0. The double standard is hilarious.

    0-3 a trend
    54-10 a fluke
    BYU in discussions with the BIG 12
    Your conference stinks compared to the BIG 12
    Chow is not making a difference
    and BYU will win more games than U

    Deal with it.

    Keep marching to Pasadena!

  • anti BCS Anaheim, CA
    Oct. 19, 2011 4:21 p.m.

    Naval Vet

    1) I'll believe it when I see it
    2) $0 for 2011
    3) $0 for 2011

    Total...

    a fraction of what the other PAC 12 schools are getting, but you're filling your role as a punching bag for the big boys of the conference very well.

    I do find it curious that the U is gouging its students with increased, mismanaged student fees so the Utes can try to be "competitive", although, 0-3, doesn't seem very competitive.

  • Bluto Sandy, UT
    Oct. 19, 2011 7:12 p.m.

    @Navy-Boy

    Chris Hill was on talk radio 3 weeks ago.
    He stated that Utah will not share full revenues for 4 years and the amount Utah receives is only 15 million for most years, with the 20+ million annually, coming at the back end of the contract.

    It reminds me before the BYU-Utah game, Christina Flores stated that Utah's annual merchandise sales is 20 million per year. LOL

    What's with the inflated numbers Utes?

    Remember Utes....

    You are dead last in annual Athletic budgets in the Pac 12, even Wazzu has U beat by 10 million annually. The new money changes nothing, as the other schools in the Pac 12 also get the new money, with a 4 year head start over Utah.

    Also, Utah is ranked 10th Academically in the Pac 12. And have the 2nd smallest stadium/attendance. Utah is already not selling out it's High School Stadium, as we predicted.

    Still paying 3 B-Ball Coaches?

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    Oct. 20, 2011 1:37 p.m.

    Bluto:

    "Chris Hill was on talk radio 3 weeks ago....He stated that Utah will not share full revenues for 4 years and the amount Utah receives is only 15 million for most years, with the 20+ million annually, coming at the back end of the contract."

    No he did not. You made that up.

    "Utah is already not selling out it's High School Stadium, as we predicted."

    Utah's stadium capacity is 45,017. Please provide us the name, city, and state of a high school stadium that seats over 45,017. As for our "empty stadium", here are our attendance figures thus far into the season for 2011:

    Montana State - 45,311 [100.7% capacity]
    Washington - 45,412 [100.9% capacity]
    Arizona State - 45,089 [100.2% capacity]

    Epic FAIL on your part.

    Your stadium seats 63,725. Here are YOUR attendance figures for 2011:

    Utah - 63,742 [100.0% capacity]
    UCF - 59,874 [94.0% capacity]
    Utah State - 63,513 [99.7% capacity]
    San Jose State - 59,782 [93.8% capacity]

    So look who' hasn't been selling out their stadium! You've had 4 home games, with only 1 sell-out. Thanks to Utah of course. You're welcome!