Lucky there weren't kids playing soccer.
Time for airspace restrictions for these kit plane flyers.Last month one
crashed at an elementary school.
I have played at these fields many times and so have my kids, I've always
wondered when this would happen. It was a good thing there wasn't a game let
alone a tournament when the entire complex is packed.
No need for airspace restrictions. No need to close the airport either. The airport was there before the houses, parks, and soccer fields. I you don't want to be near the airport then don't move near it or build
a house near it. Simple as that. The airport is home to some military ops
anyways. If they close the airport, people will complain of the
increased time for takeoff and landings at the SLC Int'l airport. SLC airport
will become more crowded with ground traffic.
@Portland Trail BlazersJust because the airport was there before the
soccer fields doesn't mean that it's OK for planes to nosedive into them.
Kennecott was there before the airport but that doesn't mean they can shoot down
planes.I agree - no need to restrict airspace or close the airport.
But maybe it's time to place tighter controls on the type of aircraft that can
operate out of Airport 2. I don't see why aircraft that come in a box being
piloted by amateur pilots is a good idea in populated areas.
Seems like a lot of planes crashing these last couple of years. I don't know
about closing down airports, but someone needs to check on the flight schools in
the area letting all these guys fly and crash.
Maybe that is a bad place for an airport?
Take a deep breath, pilots. I wrote, "Time for airspace restrictions for
these kit plane flyers." I am specifically concerned about those kit
planes, those classified as experimental.They are unpredictable and not
well-inspected. Owners may do as they please, but lets keep them out of
Ok let me get this straight... When you moved near Airport #2 you didn't notice
airplanes and helicopters taking off and landing??? So now that you have
noticed it you want it moved??? The mayor says "it's a good
thing it didn't happen on Saturday"? Well, I think it's a good thing I
wasn't in the plane. I think it's a good thing it didn't get into the air and
crash in my house in Davis County.Conjecture and fear mongering
won't accomplish anything. It happened and one probably really nice guy was
killed and one probably really nice guy was seriously injured. No one else was
hurt. Period. The end.My condolences to the family of the pilot and
my best regards and well wishes for a speedy recovery to the injured passenger.
Brave Sir Robin,I doubt the pilot intentionally nose-dived into the
soccer field... but Portland Trail Blazers still has a point- If you don't want
to live near an airport (risk wise), don't move next to one that's already
there.I could see a 'airports closer to residential or populated
areas require such and such level of pilot license, or hours of experience' (as
often is required with aircraft laws). However, there are always more details to
a crash than we generally know as the public. So I don't claim to have any real
knowledge of what should happen.I personally think airports should
be farther from city's myself. Commute is luxury, not necessity. In my eyes, a
little extra drive (what others who live farther do every day) won't kill
anyone. Safety for the city is absolutely necessary. That's just my take
anyway.Is it odd to anyone else besides myself, that Salt Lake City
owns an airport in West Jordan?
Actually, experimental aircraft (homebuilts) are inspected more thoroughly than
factory built planes. And if drivers of automobiles had to meet the strict
standards pilots must meet, and take biennial "driving reviews" every
two years as we must for flying, our highways would be much much safer.To say nothing of the strict aircraft maintenance regimen. An annual
inspection that literally tears the aircraft apart, checks every piece of it and
then reassembles it would eliminate about half of the cars on the road.Before we close any airports or limit pilots even further than is already the
case, let's clamp down on unsafe drivers and vehicles.
I haven't heard yet about this pilot, but the one who crashed into the
elementary school was very experienced. I wouldn't be surprised if this were
the case this time, as well. So please don't be judgmental or refer to them as
Get serious people, no one who moves near an airport should have an expectation
that little kit airplanes are buzzing around and crashing! Lets get real
here!Does your house front a road? Should you have an expectation
that cars are going to loose control and crash into your home?
Strange priorities!All the excitement at two separate and unrelated
aircraft crashes is amazing. Some folks are suddenly bothered by
the "dangers" of aircraft (of any type) coming from an airport that
has been there for almost 70 years, which has resulted in how many deaths or
injuries?The same people are NOT campaigning to close down all the
highways in their neighborhoods, or to ban automobiles. How many kids and
adults have died in auto related accidents in the area in the last 70 years?
Heck, how many kids have been run over in their own driveways, or crossing
streets during that time? Too often emotional responses and the
tendency of the news media and politicians to "do something" in
response to every event results in bad decisions and bad laws.Leave
the airport, let the planes fly, but be more careful driving back and forth in
the area and the death rate will decline.
"Does your house front a road? Should you have an expectation that cars are
going to loose control and crash into your home? "Yes, you
should. It happens very, very frequently doesn't it?
When West Jordan City decided to build the soccer fields at that location it was
because the ground was cheap, the City Shops were right next to it, and the City
Managers at that time always took the path of least resistance. (Maybe thay
still do, who knows?) At any rate, the airport was there decades before the
soccer fields. So the decision was made by the City, not any aviators or
I'm sorry to hear of another airplane crash. However it is necessary to keep
things in perspective. Far more people are killed in car crashes than are
killed when an airplane goes down. We don't close down the roads when that
happens and we shouldn't consider shutting down or moving that airport.
It amazes me of the knee jerk reaction of some of these people. This airport is
under the approach and take off of Salt Lake City airport. I have more
confidence in pilots than I have in the average Utah driver. Reality Check!!Accidents unfortunately occur in every human indeavor.
I am sorry that we have had another death involving an aircraft crashing into a
neighborhood. As others I am glad no one on the ground was hurt. Any call to
move the airport is probably a knee-jerk reaction. A thoughtful consideration of
that idea would yield a reasoned conclusion of where? When the existing airport
was built, I would guess over 50 years ago, it was in the sticks. The growth in
the valley has encroached on what was a remote area. So if you move it, assuming
you can find a place to move it to, how long will it be until the "move
it" cry is again raised? As unpleasant as it is to us, risk is part of
life. I would venture to say that more people will die in home fires within a 10
mile radius of that airport than will die from an aircraft crashing into a home
or homes. Or a child will die in their own driveway as a result of an over
burdened, over worked rushing family member. We cannot eliminate all causes of
potential danger, we can only live with them as best as we can.
To all those criticizing the previous comments. I found nothing to criticize.
Saying 'maybe we need restrictions, or maybe this, or that' is just...
"maybe". The point, no one is crying out "Down with
pilots!". We're just making remarks about what some feel may help. Those
opinions to me are welcome.
That would be a reason I didn't buy a house out there.Dont move buy
a _______ and complain.DumpWalmartBusy roadfreewaydairy farmwhere wild animals call home
VST - Bountiful has it right. Knowing that Airport #2 was there first, why
didn't the city (WJ) do a better job zoning the surrounding area of the airport?
Obviously too late now,but here is another idea, SLC sell the property to WJ so
they can develop the land as they see fit. Build another Airport #2 in the
valley and zone enough property surrounding the airport to avoid this hazard.
Fiberglass experimental plane is all that I have seen. Has it been reported what
type of plane this is? Rutan or Cozy perhaps.
Why do the ignorant want to close the airport, or restrict homebuilt
aircraft?READ.The causes in bothcases were Pilot
error.What are you going to restrict or do away with?Humans?================ @A voice of Reason | 4:26 p.m.
Oct. 4, 2011 Salt Lake City, UT "I personally think
airports should be farther from city's myself."You must be new
around here.That airport [South Valley Regional U42] was built
before and completed in 1942.It was 20 miles from anyone, and only
dairy farms and beet farmers lived out there.It was like that until
the last 20 years -- but if you did a little research....Land Developers
arm twisted the local building codes to allow them to develop that area into
residential districts.The airport was there 1st.Greedy
developers and cheap housing lured people knowing full well what they were
getting.Economy 101 -- You get what you pay for.
Seriously people, if you built a house next to the airport then you are
responsible for any attendant possibilities. Take freakin' responsibility for
@ JJJHSYou left off railroads.
My condolsebces to the familys involved by this unforseen event. To lose family
members at an early age is tragic. May you be comforted.
Sad that they both died. At least they died doing something they enjoyed doing.
i went to school with the pilot and as you guys sit here and discuss airplanes
and if they should not be there, there is a wife and children, father, mother,
brothers etc out there grieving the loss of this pilot not to mention the
passenger. I know Jared has been flying for quite a long time so maybe get the
priorities straight and not focus on the airport but the loss of 2 individuals.
First of all people need to stop posting when they don't know what they are
talking about. Experimental planes are inspected just as much as any other small
plane. For those that want to close down the airport just because there have
been two accidents in three weeks. The same mentality would mean we should close
down I-15. I happen to be really close friends with Jared and his family and
have flown many times with this very experienced and capable pilot. He had
thousands of hours. For those that are complaining about him crashing into an
empty field, it's better than your house. Pilots are trained to look for
emergency landing spots for this very scenario. I think that he did an amazing
job to ensure that no one else was hurt. Thank you Jared for all that you have
taught me. It was a privilege to know you. You will be sorely missed.
So much said about where airports should be located and who was there first, but
have you considered how those two men felt when they knew they were in trouble
and would probably die? Their families are grieving and have much more to deal
with than the issues on which most of these comments are focused. First and
foremost, two lives were lost. Anyone notice that the story headline was about
the second person in the West Jordan crash had also died, not about issues that
are now moot? My thoughts and prayers are with the grieving families. I'm so
sorry they have lost a loved one. Focus, people, on what can be done for them
instead of discussing those things that can't be undone.
Are there any rules at all? Or is a person just allowed to fly an experimental
plane near an elementary school and where kids play soccer? Life is not a Mtn.
Dew commercial.I'm glad no bystanders were hurt.
@ moniker lewinskyThere are good men who die in accidents,
unfortunately. No amount of regulations will prevent such an occasional
situation. The most dangerous part of flying is driving to the airport. These
men, and the one who perished next to the elementary school, and I dare say the
one who crashed at the air show in Reno had absolutely no intention whatever of
crashing and being killed or injuring anyone on the ground. Their families
deserve a bit of our feelings of sadness and grief at their untimely passing. I
love flying myself and know it to be very safe. Accidents do happen and we
mourn those that are lost. There are other examples, too, like the Indiana
State Fair. I feel for those who have suffered innocently by losing loved ones.
Their pain is real.
Homebuilt or Kitpplanes are generally well constructed and the certification
process is rigid. This plane must have passed since there were two people
aboard, only one is allowed in the precertification phase.
It is always tragic when there is an accident that ends in the death of those
aboard the vehicle, whether a car, bus, plane, etc. There are a number of
concerns addressed here, but they're being unrealistic. You cannot place an
airport far from a community and have the same benefit. Pilots are highly
trained, and they are trained to fly in urban environments. Southern California
is a perfect example, with a plethora of airports with pilots of varying skills
and aircraft fly. SLC should continue to run the airport- as they always have
and are better equipped to do so. They also run the Tooele Airport, and if it
ain't broke, don't fix it right? There may be some good neighbor practices to
institue, but I'd be careful how hard you push for the wrong changes. Look at
communities who are successfully instituting changes for their own urban airport
neighbors. They're not the bad guys!