The Pac 12 is not expanding because of Texas' Longhorn Network.The Big 12
lacks stablility because of Texas' Longhorn Network.Tom Holmoe is
speed dialing the Big 12, but he has the same problem... a network. Nobody in
the Big 12 wants yet another headache.
ModerateYou're confused.Tom Holmoe is on the Big 12's
speed dial and TLN and BYUtv will be part of a stabilized Big 12 by next week.
Truth Machine -If you want to call the Big 12 "stabilized"
anytime previous to Texas agreeing to equal revenue then you're delusional.
Oklahoma won't be happy until that's taken care of one way or another.
@Truth Machinethank you. your post right there is the reason that
BYU will continue to kick around in mediocrity.-an inflated sense of
how much you mean to people.-the assumption that people will let you
waltz in and start calling the shots (ie BYUtv). -the overall
feeling that you are a divine gift to the world.You aren't.
Saturday's game proved that there is a large disparity now between Utah and BYU
in the main sport. And it aint gonna change anytime soon.
If you are really a Truth Machine, you need to be re-calibrated...The Big
12 is definitely NOT stable. BYU is definitely NOT getting an invite.The Big 12 is on life support right now and will fold within the next couple
Why is the PAC 12 standing pat?Texas.Toxic Texas.Before BYU jumps into bed with the Longhorns..."Caveat
Oklahoma has drawn a line in the sand, they will not be in the same conference
with Texas as long as they have the longhorn network and an unequal
relationship.If BYU wants to work for Texas for a couple years before
Texas's behavoir blows up whats left of the Big 12, good luck with that.
Kosta Fesenko | 12:34 p.m. Sept. 21, 2011 "your post right
there is the reason that BYU will continue to kick around in
mediocrity."-an inflated sense of how much you mean to
people.-the assumption that people will let you waltz in and start
calling the shots (ie BYUtv).-the overall feeling that you are a
divine gift to the world."Look closely at the list you
provided...you just described the Texas Longhorns. Personally, I think it would
be incredibly entertaining to watch two ego maniacal institutions like byu and
Texas in the same conference. Both think:-They can dictate the
rules to which all other must comply-They are entitled to everything and
anything they want-Everyone wants to be themBoth can't be
right! What great entertainment this relationship would give us!!
What used to be a league renowned for its QBs is now becoming a league that is
famous for its RBs, and John White IV is leading the way. That's awesome.
Equal shares revenue --Texas thinks it is bigger/better than everyone else...hmm
sounds like a school I know south of a school I like...:)It makes
sense for equal revenu sharing. USC and UCLA agreed to it last year so Scott
can't have Texas not sharing its revenue from the Longhorn network.
I'm not so sure Truth Machine won't be right. Many pundits have BYU as a natural
replacement for A & M in the Big-12.====I like the 12 team
Pac-12. Big Ten should also stay at 12.Let the ACC and SEC go to 16.
Then rue they day they did.
The fact is negotiations broke down with Texas again. This is the plum they
wanted and still want. They decided that they had enough filler with the
mistake they made last year with Utah and Colorado. A conference only needs so
Mortoon/Real Bass,If Utah's invitation to the PAC-12 was a
"mistake" and Utah and Colorado are considered "patsys"
(spelled patsies), where does that leave your program? Utah has won the last 7
of 10 games against your team and the last game by 44 points just last Saturday.
Isn't it an interesting time to express your jealousy and bitterness?
Funny how an article about the PAC12 and BIG12 ends up about BYU among
commentors. This story is not about BYU. It is about AZ, ASU, COLO
and UTAH not wanting to play in an Eastern Division PAC16 with an uphill climb
of ever getting ahead of Oklahoma or Texas for division honors in football.
Playing TTech and OSU would have been bad enough but Texas and Oklahoma would
have been downright ugly. Ditto for any of the other eight "coastal"
division schools having to add more Midwest games. Frankly, I am
sure the was a collective sigh of relief on the Eastside of SLC when
announcement was made of no expansion. It is bad enough for Utah to have to
contend with their 11 neighbors right now but to throw more powerhouse progams
into the mix is bad news.The upside may have been the requirement
for Utah to buy into the conference may have been waived. That really hurts
moneywise especially when Colorado got a free pass. That will pass with time
though, and then lots of money will flow in.It is nice to see common
sense win out!
alternate:"Playing TTech and OSU would have been bad enough but
Texas and Oklahoma would have been downright ugly...I am sure the was a
collective sigh of relief on the Eastside of SLC when announcement was made of
no expansion...to throw more powerhouse progams into the mix is bad
news."How would you feel if last weekend's 54-10 losers should
be faced with a Big TeX invitation, thus staring down the inevitability of
annual matchups with Texas, Tx. Tech, Oklahoma, and Oklahoma St? Will you and
the rest of your mid-majored Indy-WAC peers panic if Holmoe accepts? Will those
same losers of 7 of the last 10 sigh with relief if he does not? I'm sure
Bronco would. After all, he DID say, "the model has been set" after
Hawai'i backed into the Sugar Bowl playing a weak SOS. And those aforementioned
4 Big TeX teams do NOT fit within that model.You must be so
terrified right about now. You might have to give up your "natural"
cupcake WAC rivalries.
BYU will be allowed into the Big 12 if they use their network as members want...
allow BYUtv to replay games, allow BYUtv to broadcast live games IF no other
national network is playing that game (ESPN, ABC, FOX).Where Texas
went wrong is they demand FIRST rights on a game. They want 2 conference games
played EXCLUSIVELY on TLN. Of course they want that. It helps sell the
network. Why would a subscriber buy in, if they only get to see games against
Rice and Lousiana Tech? Texas wants to sell big games such as against Ok State.
Ok State fans don't want to pay money to Texas to be able to see their boys
play.The Big 12 has to resolve television issues before considering
BYU. BYU has nothing else to offer the league.