USU plays Clemson while the Cougars play Ole Miss. What's wrong with this
My guess if O'l Miss played Montana St. (at Montana) they would be at least a 6
It would be nice to see BYU get a win on the road at Ole Miss. It will give them
confidence and momentum for the game in Austin.A preemptive troll
post:We've just heard from the fans on the hill after Utah was
picked to finish 3rd in their division that preseason polls don't mean anything.
If that's true then that means the polls that picked Miss to finish last in the
SECW and Tex to finish 5th don't mean anything either.Can't have it
both ways Ute fans.Go Cougars!
Sounds like he comes from a similar mold as Jimmer. Would be nice to hear the
phrase at BYU; "You have just been Jabaried."
The article Texas Longhorns Network Causing concerns in the Big 12
conference.Remotely possible that future moves to go Independant
could possibly already be being considered and just may spur a completely
different view of College Football. With what Texas is contemplating for thier
Longhorn Network and the already staunch opposition to it by other members such
as A&M and Texas Tech...there is that possibility...to go
independant...especially if Texas doesn't get most of what they desire to decide
and operatively control how they use it. The NCAA is right now sitting on one
of the most underlooked at issues just now emerging since BYU's decision to
break away from a seriously flawed Television contract with the Mountain West
Conference. And with Oklahoma also considering it's own Network...you can't
dismiss that other major progams besides BYU are probably also considering the
independant option. ESPN seems to be almost exclusively in tune with conceptual
vision to see where things just might be heading. The programming of Local High
School games on the Longhorn network if permitted will have a definite impact on
recruiting and could actually be a catalyst rather than a stopper of moving to
Gotta love having a Thuroughbred horse named after you. Especially one with a
Kentucky Derby and Preakness winning bloodline. Run Jimmer... Run!
While the realist in me thinks there is no chance BYU will land Jabari Parker,
who is reportedly receiving weekly phone calls from Coach K, the Cougar fan in
me thinks there is a fighting chance. After all, Jimmer was able to sweep every
major national award and become a top 10 NBA draft pick while playing at BYU -
all while playing on the Mtn. But with Parker, Dave Rose will be able to say not
only will he be playing for his church's university, and not only will he be
surrounded by students and teammates who share his beliefs and values, but he
will also be able to play on ESPN in front of a national audience. He could tell
him that if he came to BYU he could be the next Jimmer Fredette, and help the
Cougars reach their first ever Final Four. I will keep hoping and dreaming!
RE: Where's StocktonWhat people forget is that Texas is not an independent
institution. The Texas Legislature has a direct say in what the University of
Texas does. If UT was independent, they'd have joined the Pac-12. But the
legislature jumped in and said, "if you're going you have to take Baylor
with you", and things fell apart from there.I don't see UT
dropping conference affiliation. Doing that would hurt other Texas schools, so
they will be forbidden from doing so.Televising high school games is
an interesting deal, similar to what BYU could be facing. If they televise a
high school game, the university owes that school money for the broadcast
rights. It seems like giving cash to high schools should violate some NCAA
rule.As for an influence on recruiting, it extends down to the high
school level. Imagine Bingham High School recruiting kids to play for them
because "we're on BYU TV all the time".
@ModerateI agree with your observations regarding Texas,
independence and broadcasting high school games. It is a very BAD idea to
broadcast high school games on the Longhorn Network because it gives Texas an
unfair advantage in recruiting high school athletes (something Texas already has
at it is) and I am sure the NCAA will have something to say about it. But I
don't understand why you brought BYU into this and said this is "similar to
what BYU could be facing". Do you know something the rest of us don't?
Because I have not heard that BYU has any plans whatsoever to broadcast high
school sporting events on BYUtv. Between the religious programming, the
rebroadcasts of football games, and all the other BYU sporting events I doubt
there will be any need to reach that far to fill up the TV schedule.
@Moderate...remember this...people and organizations do change thier minds. If
the state of Texas were to realize that they and thier High Schools... (if the
Longhorn Network does get a greenlight to program High School games)... could
tremendously gain financially by allowing Texas University the option of going
Independant then I cannot forsee them passing on such a huge potential
possibility...and as far as money going to High Schools that's exactly why and
what having associations like Utah's own UHSAA is all about. Bingham High
School would get no more finacially than any other school in the State... and
limitations on how many times they or any other School could possibly play on TV
obviously would be controlled. You got to remember The State of Texas has
historically in it's own Constitution the right to sucession from the Union.
It's definitely not as cut and dried as you are attempting to make it.
I guarantee Texas is watching BYU and contemplating independence for themselves,
but I wonder what conference would they place all their other non-football
sports in? Notre Dame has the Big East and BYU has the WCC. What conference
would take all of Texas' other sports, and would Texas be able to give all those
sports such an enormous demotion? After all, its one thing to go from the MWC to
the WCC, it is almost a wash. But to go from a major BCS conference to something
like C-USA or the WAC seems like too big a sacrifice to make for football. Plus
Texas would not want to lose automatic qualification for the BCS. I really don't
see Texas anywhere but the Big 12. No other BCS conference would let them keep
their Longhorn Network. That is why Texas turned down Larry Scott's invitation
to join the PAC.
2011 Ole Miss
2011 Ole Miss MUCH < 2010 Iowa StateI expect nothing less than a
40 point victory from BYU. Ole Miss is completely awful.
Representative BlueTexas doesn't necessarily have to leave the Big 12 in
other sports and they have enough clout on thier own that they could easily face
off with the conference. In actuallity it's the conferences who more and more as
has been seen over that past decade and a half especially this past year that
are losing ground...even with the creation of the Elite Conference BCS... which
eventually will also get pushed off the road. Football has always had the
independants...and for many years they were a dominant force. ESPN seems to
think that there is no reason why a new set of Independants couldn't again
become a dominate force. The Dynamics to make that happen are obviously there
and more importantly so is the money.
There are very few schools with the cache that could make a go at independence.
Obviously Texas is one, but "Moderate" brought up a good point that
Univeristy of Texas is under the control of the Texas legislature. I am not
sure UT would have taken the PAC deal even if the PAC were not religious bigots
and had accepted Baylor. Texas is gearing up to maximize it opportunities,
therefore a possible run at indepedence is feasible.USC is another
school that might look at independence. I don't know if it is in a position of
having its own broadcasting station and making a run at independence, but the
potential is certainly there. It is a private institution and unlike UT is not
controlled by state politicians. I'll bet the USC administrators are at least
entertaining the notion. What BYU did and especially Texas did with ESPN had to
catch the attention of USC.
If you need some motivation to beat 'Ol Miss, Houston Nut said BYU has a find
team but he wasn't worried about beating them. He felt the key issue was having
his team do well in Fall Camp.
News flash to cougar fans who think Texas is taking their lead from BYU: The
Longhorn Network and Texas's jump from the Big 12 was cotenplated long before
BYU decided to go independant. On another note Texas not being independant makes
about 4 X what BYU will make as an indeppendant.The world does not revolve
around BYU and judging by the Pac 12 media coverage neither does the state of
Couldn't agree more that independence is the next wave coming. Teams that have
ridden the coattails of others will be sorely exposed and will have a drastic
change of reality when there $20M tv contract rolls over to something
drastically less. This change is inevitable. When Texas declares watch the
landscape change rapidly. I can think of 6-8 other programs that would benefit
greatly by removing the conference affiliate shackles. Of course for these soon
to be big winners there will be big losers. Hold on tight.
@Gone FishinWho cares about when... which regardless of your obvious
"I've got to add my own spin" is very highly debatable ... why or
where....the rezounding fact is that they haven't.... while BYU already has
thier mega Broadcasting facility... which by the way was contemplated long
before the Longhorn Network was even an idea in someones head... functional. It
will as it already is be bigger and they have already made the move to
Independance and joined the ESPN team with a pretty much set package while Texas
is still trying to clear a lot of Red Tape to get thier ESPN deal finalized.
Actions speaks louder than words Dude.
Anyone who thinks that conference alignments are secure has no sense of the
future. Texas will do what is best for UT and the legislature will have to match
the money if they disagree. The Cougs will do just fine. If they are lousy they
will be playing the utes in Las Vegas.
RepresentBlue -- Jabari Parker is going to go to a college basketball program
with a high level of competition. He is likely a "one and done"
player. Scouts say he is a top 5 NBA pick no matter when he decides to go out -
and the kid is still very young. He will (and should) pick somewhere that will
test him each and every night - like the ACC, Big East, Big 12, Big 10, SEC,
(I'll even skip the Pac-12 so I'm not called a homer - but you ge the point).
The WCC would not give Jabari enough competition to develop his talents the way
they should be over the one or two years he is in college. Duke or North
Carolina or Kansas or UCLA -- that is where he ought to land. He shouldn't have
to play in tiny WCC gyms at 10:00PM. Right now he doesn't even list BYU in his
top 10 when asked. But I understand the dream - you gotta have hope. As for the
"next Jimmer" - there will never be another Jimmer - he was one of
kind and magical. Jimmer was once in a lifetime.
Preseason polls are almost worthless. They are almost entirely weighted on last
years results. In 2010, Ole Miss was highly ranked in the preseason because
they had a solid year in 2009, but ended up performing poorly. In 2011, Ole
Miss is predicted to finish last because of their poor performance in 2010.
This is a completely different team. Ole Miss will not finish last, and note to
the infamous Ute troller - Montana St would not have a chance against Old Miss,
neither would Iowa State. Get real.I think it was Bronco who said
that rankings shouldn't start until after the fourth or fifth game. It's hard
to tell much about a team until you've seem them play a few times.What a coup that would be if Jabari signed on with the Cougs! Jabari Parker,
Nick Emery, TJ Haws, Jordan Loveridge, Jordan Chatman. The recruiting pipeline
The PAC-12 media attention is for USC, Oregon, Washington, UCLA. For Ute fans to
fool themselves into thinking that their little Community college has anything
to do with it really is hilarious.
@Cougfanin Tx:You are right about Mont St playing Ole Miss, but you
have to understand it is a pre fabbed excuse. It serves a dual purpose: 1. it
attempts to diminish the fact that Mont St is an FCS team and Ole Miss is a BCS
team. 2. They leave themselves an out in case their game against Mont St is
close and BYU wins handily. If they repeat the refrain that Mont St
is better/would beat Ole Miss enough it will become true in their minds no
matter how absurd it seems to everyone else.
If as most suggest that Jabari Parker is a one-and-done college player, I hope
he goes elsewhere.Shawn Bradley was about the biggest signing BYU
ever had in basketball, and that one year wasn't very good, 18 wins or so during
the regular season as I recall. He wasn't polished and needed another year
minimum before he became that game-changing player we all hoped he'd be. But he
never came back after his mission. No question Parker is a better
player, but I'd still much rather watch a good-but-not-great player for four
years than a stud for one (Jackson Emery comes to mind). Don't get
me wrong, I'd accept him with open arms. But I'm just not a fan of one-year
wonders.What say all of you?
Farid: The biggest problem with Bradley was that we THOUGHT he was coming back,
and recruiting wasn't done to replace him. With Parker, we know it is for one
year, and that's okay. We have lots of one year players before their mission,
and they work out well. I would take him. gonefishn: BYU thought
about independence for years, they didn't just start last summer. As hard as it
would be for you to swallow, BYU had to wait for utah to leave, because we would
not have left our little brother alone in the MWC.
@uu32Of course you don't have a clue what you are talking about, you
are simply expressing your most fervent hopes here. No way to know what Parker
will do with the exception of one definate thing....he will not be going to
utah. That is the only thing that can be stated with 100% assurity. Beyond that
there is no telling what the kid will do for sure.
Does BYU TV show reruns of sporting events on Sundays? Does it have programming
e 24 hours a day including Sunday? How is this not considered breaking the law
of the Sabbath? It's OK to watch taped games but not live games? Is this another
law that can be broken like "obeying the laws of the land" something
like the illegals?
PS, I hope you get the help you most desperately need.
UU32: I watched this kid in Vegas three years ago. Coaches were there then. He
is a good kid, even then was a great young man, sportmanship was already
evident. Cougfanintex has it right, look at the possibility of
selling all of these kids Haws, Emery, etal with Parker, remember the fab five
from Michigan, I can see it happening here.Also, I have said that
the BCS will be gone in 3 years and the tv situation is just one more nail in
the coffin. Texas, USC, Okla, Stanford, many others will opt for their own
exposure and spell doom to the monitary strangle hold the bc s has had on
football. The bowl games will follow the dollar and it will not be with the bcs.
Many schools which regularly occupy the bottom half of these conference
standings will be left without the only thing they have going, the money from
the top programs. Associateion with such a conference will mean absolutily
nothing in the next three years.The bcs will die on its own, with
help from the anti-trust statutes. Independence looks the better part for the
Lurker: Yes, BYU-TV shows sports events all day long on Sundays. That fits in
with the Quest for Perfection, where we believe that we will win every football
game we will ever play and win consecutive National Championships.
I love all of the Y fans on here that think Texas is going to follow BYU's lead,
and that they will do everything that the Y did, because Irrelevence is the best
thing in the world for college football. The whole Longhorn network playing high
school games is more of an NCAA issue that needs to be resolved if anything, and
if they go independent, that will not make itso they will be able to FOR SURE
get high school games on their own network.
hedgehog My guess if O'l Miss played Montana St. (at Montana) they
would be at least a 6 point dog. Your wrong again, it is Utah which
is the 6 point underdog with their Montana St. opener...sorry.
Not usually one to play the grammar troll, but come on! You'd think that Y fans
would actually learn to spell independence before gleefully proclaiming their
superiority to the rest of the sporting world. BTW, I actually do root for the
"TDS" when they aren't playing the Utes and it really is quite funny
how both schools are suddenly too big for their britches.It's
independent, not independant.It's lose, not loose.It's definitely,
not definately.I cringed when I heard the Y was going independent
and clapped when the ESPN partnership was announced. Y without ESPN =
irrelevant. Y with ESPN = a viable independent life. Now all it needs is a
quality bowl tie-in and it'd never miss conference life.Finally, to
add something substantive to the article at hand, it really is too bad that Ole
Miss and Texas are ranked so low this year. In a normal year a victory on the
road over two quality southern schools would be an impressive, if not nearly
impossible feat. However, in 2011, victories over these two schools will be more
symbolic than substantive. Y fans had better start praying for Utah and TCU to
bolster your SOS.
Cougarista | 4:53 p.m. July 27, 2011 Salt Lake City, UTThe
Cougs will do just fine. If they are lousy they will be playing the utes in Las
Vegas.-----------------If the Cougs do great they will
be in Las Vegas, too.
Cougarista | 4:53 p.m. July 27, 2011Salt Lake City, UT"The Cougs will do just fine. If they are lousy they will be playing the
utes in Las Vegas."_______________Don't you mean
the Armed Forces bowl? Because that's where they are headed unless selected for
the lone at-large BCS bowl pick.
"News flash to cougar fans who think Texas is taking their lead from BYU:
The Longhorn Network and Texas's jump from the Big 12 was cotenplated long
before BYU decided to go independant."New flash: BYU thought
about and decided on independence long before BYU actually declared they were
going independent. All indications show that Texas is watching BYU closely
these next few years to see how it goes.
@beltwayuteGee's... I sure wouldn't want to be riding in your car with
you at the wheel in a rain storm and have the wipers go out. It's obvious you
wouldn't be able to see past the spots on the windshield and would have a bad
case of panic attact. This is a blog about jocks and in the age of texting no
less and you expect people to actually correct every little typo or constantly
be using thier dictionaries. You need to get outside for a different
perspective and some fresh air once in a while and realize that there are better
things in life to do then to be editing bloggers on sports. Try leaving the
beltway once in a while.