I like the 5 points...but it seems that one is missing. I've always been taught
and have a personal conviction that having a testimony of the Book of Mormon is
one of the core points of any testimony of the restored Church of Jesus Christ.
Hmmm....I guess that would only work if you had six fingers on one
hand. Oh well, too bad for the most correct of any book on earth...one that
helps individuals get nearer to God than any other!
I would include Joseph Smith as a prophet and that we have a prophet today in
one of the points and be sure to include the Book of Mormon as another of the
points. The gloves can also be used to illustrate the plan of salvation.. our
hand as our spirit and our glove as our body.. Yes, the Book of Mormon should be
included as one of the points.
They crux of the divide between Christianity and Mormonism could not be
presented any clearer that what was described as the five elements of a
testimony in Mormon theology. Christianity also has five basic elements of our
theology known as the Five Solas or only, Scripture Only, Faith Only, Grace
Only, Christ Only, and give the glory to God Only. Quite a
difference, It sure makes me wonder!
To me, having a "testimony" means having an *inner* experience, not
simply memorizing key points of a theology and then presenting them. That's
merely recitation. (In fact, the very glove idea reminds me of how we used to
write key facts on our palms before an exam.)No one can give you a
testimony but yourself, with--in Mormon terms--the gift of the Holy Ghost.To claim that kids can actually give a personal testimony by showing
five fingers of a glove and then stating what's on each finger is absurd.
There's nothing personal about it, it was simply taught to them. And whoever is
won over by their "testimony" will most likely be as robotic as these
kids are behaving.I don't believe this is what God intended for us.
BiblicalTestimony. Man is sinful and separated from God. "For all have
sinned and fall short of the glory of God," (Rom. 3:23); "For the
wages of sin is death," (Rom. 6:23); "But your iniquities have made a
separation between you and your God," (Isaiah 59:2). The Holy Spirit(Ghost)
must convict of your sinful nature.Jesus Christ is God's only
provision for man's sin. A."I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no
one comes to the Father, but through Me" (John 14:6). " We must
individually receive Jesus as Savior and Lord. ."But as many as received
Him, to them He gave the right(authority) to become children of God(by
adoption), even to those who believe in His name," (John 1:12); "if
you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God
raised Him from the dead, you shall be saved," (Rom. 10:9); "For by
grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the
gift of God," (Eph. 2:8).
The children are taught what a testimony is and what one must contain. So,
what. I hear that Catholic Children also are taught certain things peculiar to
the Catholic Religion as well and so are all the protestant religions as well.
The funny thing is that most protestant religions will on occassion tell their
parishiners how bad the "MORMONS" are without ever telling them the
difference.The fact remains that a personal testimony comes to a
person only and by the Holy Ghost. No one person, father, mother, brother,
aunt, uncle, etc. can give you a testimony. There comes a time in everyones
life that they must stand on their own two feet. They must obtain their own
testimony of the truth. Many obtain that in their teens, some in their early
twenties. Some late in life. Yet, they all must obtain and fuel that
testimony. The spirit does withdrawal itself from someone through apostasy and
when it does that spirit no longer dwells with that person. When that happens
then that person has two options to either regain it or to not. It is said that
a person can leave the Church but they can't leave the Church alone.
The first point that God is our Heavenly Father should be changed to something
like - we have Heavenly Parents who love us and want us to return to them.Heavenly Parents (which boldly includes a Heavenly Mother) is one of the
most wonderful and unique of LDS teachings. But sadly it is rarely expressed out
I'm not sure they reported the 5 points correctly. I went to that blog and this
is what they said, "A testimony is a spiritual witness given by the Holy
Ghost. The foundation of a testimony is the knowledge that Heavenly Father lives
and loves us; that Jesus Christ lives, that He is the Son of God, and that He
carried out the infinite Atonement; that Joseph Smith is the prophet of God who
was called to restore the gospel; that we are led by a living prophet today; and
that The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is the Saviors true Church
on the earth. With this foundation, a testimony grows to include all principles
of the gospel" I only counted 4: 1-heavenly Father 2-Christ 3-living
prophet/past one 4-True church and I guess you could include the BOM here.
Unless I am reading it wrong, but this is how I would teach it to my children
since I do agree with GCQ that the BOM needs to be included.
friedegg: you didn't read it wrong, just, um, interpreted it wrong. You lumped
the two prophet concepts together. Joseph Smith was a prophet, and we have a
current prophet, were presented as two points, not one.I agree that
the Book of Mormon should be a key point, but I feel quite comfortable in
suggesting that your testimony of that book is inextricably linked with your
testimony of the Prophet Joseph. Either it's true and he is therefore a prophet
(or he is a prophet which would force the Book of Mormon to be true, depending
on how you want to build your foundation) OR you can prove the book is false,
which makes Smith a fraud (or you know he is a false prophet so therefore the
book can't possibly be from God).Either way, by coming to the
conclusion that one is true, the other must be true, so it's covered.
I'm uncomfortable with the idea of teaching children a testimony by rote. A
child should not be instructed to say they know something as part of a lesson.
That is not testimony - it is (sorry to say) indoctrination. Is that really how
we want children to form their beliefs or to understand testimony?
Excellent idea. In light of President Hinckley's adage that what new converts
need (and I imagine physical children, too, not only those young in the gospel)
is "a friend, a calling, and to be nourished by the good word of God,"
I propose that we make additional visual aids that will teach the five points of
fellowship and five points of magnifying your calling.
Matthew 23:5 But all their works they do for to be seen of men: they make broad
their phylacteries...I don't see how a testimony glove is
symbolically different than a phylactery, a small box tied to a Jewish
man's forehead. The purpose is the same and this story is a reminder of how
religionists easily look beyond the mark. What a pathetic replacement for the
"still small voice"!