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  • Lifelong Ute Salt Lake City, UT
    May 31, 2011 11:54 a.m.

    Now that we're in a BCS league I don't see Whittingham showing too much interest in other programs, although he will be pursued by top notch programs.

    Any word if bronco is a candidate? Didn't think so.

  • Mormon Ute Kaysville, UT
    May 31, 2011 12:26 p.m.

    Coach Witt's name is going to come up for other jobs, but I think he is committed to guiding the Utes to success in the PAC-12.

    The article claiming Urban Meyer is not the right man for the Ohio State job is interesting and makes some good points. I believe Meyer is done coaching, unless he has figured out a release for the stress. If he comes back without that, the stress literally will kill him or he will be retiring again after a season or two when his health problems return.

  • phoenix Gilbert, AZ
    May 31, 2011 12:41 p.m.

    Lifelong Ute

    "Now that we're in a BCS league I don't see Whittingham showing too much interest in other programs,..."

    Who are you kidding?

    Ohio State is one of the top 5 coaching jobs in all of college sports. The only reason Kyle wouldn't consider the Ohio State job is because he'll never be considered for the Ohio State job.

    -------------------------------------

    Congratulations to the Utes on winning another pre-season national championship!

  • Eddie Syracuse, UT
    May 31, 2011 12:49 p.m.

    @Lifelong Ute

    No Bronco is not mentioned because OSU cannot and will not have a "clean" program.

  • BlueSaint South Jordan, UT
    May 31, 2011 1:05 p.m.

    @lifelong

    BCS? Then why does anything BYU come up in your thoughts? Gotta laugh at these Ute fans. Put them in a BCS league, but still stuck with the little brother mentality.
    Whittingham is always a candidate for openings because everyone knows Utah is a stepping stone community college. It's only a matter of time before he leaves for bigger and better opportunities.

    As for Bronco and BYU? Well, when your coaching one of the premiere programs in college Football, going anywhere else would be a big step down.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    May 31, 2011 1:07 p.m.

    I doubt he'll even be a consideration for the OSU job. Some unsubstantiated speculation by a site like the "block u" is hardly credible. Nice of them to try and start rumors to make them seem relevent but LOL and even more LOL at lifelong ute for thinking a ute homer website like "block u" starting rumors is anything more than it is.

  • zeba Brigham City, UT
    May 31, 2011 1:10 p.m.

    I do not see Ohio State as a good option for Whit or Meyer. As far as current college head coaches, outside of Saban... I would take Boise's Petersen

  • Shawnm750 Lehi, UT
    May 31, 2011 1:16 p.m.

    Rarely do any of these rumors pan out. It's all just fodder so that sports reporters don't have to do as much real reporting, and so that guys on ESPN have something to debate about for 10 minutes to fill up their hour time slot!

  • JohnJacobJingleHeimerSchmidt Beverly Hills, CA
    May 31, 2011 1:25 p.m.

    "phoenix | 12:41 p.m. May 31, 2011
    Gilbert, AZ
    Lifelong Ute

    Ohio State is one of the top 5 coaching jobs in all of college sports. "

    Wake up and smell the postum, the Ohio State job is going to be horrible once the NCAA gets done with them.

  • Uteology Fort Worth, Texas
    May 31, 2011 1:31 p.m.

    @phoenix

    Congratulations to the Utes on winning another pre-season national championship!

    ------------

    Did you type that while waring your "Quest" t-shirt or watching your home videos of the Provo airport celebration for a 1-0 team?

    Don't think KW will move on but I do think UM will be interested in the job and if the NFL doesn't call might see him in Ohio next year.

    As far as the #22 ranking means nothing, this team has several question marks so lets wait until after USC.

  • mussingaround Palo Alto, CA
    May 31, 2011 1:37 p.m.

    Lifelong Ute

    It would be interesting to watch the sheer panic on the hill if Kyle actually did become a serious candidate for the Ohio State job.

    Shades of Rick Majerus leaving the U.

    At least Utah's basketball program wouldn't have to feel like such an outcast anymore.

  • butters Salt Lake city, UT
    May 31, 2011 1:37 p.m.

    i think whittingham gets a solid look, especially if utah meets or exceeds expectations this year in their first pac 12 season. remember, he did turn down double his salary at tennessee, was on the short list at miami, and did receive interest from florida's AD after urban left. whittingham's roots in the western half of the country are too deep though to pack up and jump ship to the midwest.

    bronco is a great coach but, like whittingham, his roots are too deep in the byu program, plus i don't think he fits the ohio state mold. he'd be perfect for the job if ohio state wanted a clean up guy though, but i don't think there's much prospect in OSU going after bronco.

  • scott Alpine, UT
    May 31, 2011 1:47 p.m.

    JJJHS

    "the Ohio State job is going to be horrible once the NCAA gets done with them"

    Yes, the NCAA is so mad at [Ohio State], it will probably slap another two years' probation on Cleveland State.

    - Jerry Tarkanian

  • phoenix Gilbert, AZ
    May 31, 2011 1:53 p.m.

    Uteology

    No, I typed it while wearing the "Utah-TCU Biggest Game in Utah History" t-shirt I picked up for a nickle in the oil rags bin at a local thrift shop.

  • OHBU Columbus, OH
    May 31, 2011 1:59 p.m.

    Sorry, I live in Columbus and attend Ohio State...Whittingham is not anywhere on the radar. Meyer is the top prospect because he's still young, he's available, and he had deep roots to Ohio and Ohio State. Others on the list, in descending order: Bob Stoops-OU (won't happen), Bo Pelini-NU. After that, an additional pool with Gary Patterson-TCU, Chris Petersen-BSU, Mark Stoops-FSU. Of course, the interim coach, Luke Fickell, also has a good shot at proving himself this year.

    By the way, Petersen isn't thrown in there for good measure, as you indicate. Unlike Whittingham, he will actually receive some consideration for the job.

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    May 31, 2011 1:59 p.m.

    Although I don't think Kwhitt would be interest in the OSU job it does bring up the questions; Why is Kwhitt always thought of as a viable candidate for elite BCS games and not bronco?

    From what i've read on these posts, bronco is the far superior innovative coach including the much published cutting edge nutritional program.

    How can these elite BCS program continue to pass on bronco as if he doesn't exist?

  • forreal people Cottonwood Heights, UT
    May 31, 2011 2:18 p.m.

    Kyle turned down the Tennessee job to stay at Utah. And before you start talking about top 5 coaching jobs, I would advise you to make that statement while considering pay. You might be surprised where Tennessee ends up, top 10 hands down. So no, Kyle is not interested. Urban was, he took the Florida job. Kyle was not, he turned down the Tennessee job. And Bronco? What a joke. He wont be considered because he is not a high profile coach. Whittingham is viewed as a top candidate for many coaching jobs every time they open. Too bad that the stepping stone community college had the highest paid and highest profile coach in the MWC.

    Jealous BYU fans need to give the U and Kyle some credit on this topic. Not only did Kyle turn down the Tennessee job when he was somebody, he turned down the BYU job when he was nobody.

    Chris Peterson, Kyle Whittingham, will always be considered for big jobs. Get over it BYU fan. We have a head to head to settle this argument. Kyle turned down the Y for a much, much, better job.

  • WestCoast1 Escondido, CA
    May 31, 2011 2:18 p.m.

    Thank you, "duckhunter", for your insight as to the reliability of this rumor. Your perspective certainly puts a different light on the subject.

    And to "mussing around", your name is obviously inspired by the tremendous Ute student section. Yet you say "Utah's basketball program wouldn't have to feel like such an outcast anymore." Those are interesting comments aimed at a program that has 9 Sweet Sixteen appearances, 4 Final Four appearances, and an NCAA National Championship. Your comments would be especially interesting if you are a supporter of the team in Provo with 1 Sweet Sixteen appearance, 0 Final Four appearances, and 0 National Championships.

  • USAlover Salt Lake City, UT
    May 31, 2011 2:21 p.m.

    MWC championships the last 10 years:

    BYU: 142
    Utah: 45

    Enjoy the Pac 12 because Cougar fans are going to LOVE watching the train wreck.

  • uteBusters Park City, UT
    May 31, 2011 2:26 p.m.

    hh

    "How can these elite BCS program continue to pass on Bronco as if he doesn't exist?"

    Because these elite programs know that Bronco would run a clean program.

  • Chris Bryant SLC, UT
    May 31, 2011 2:30 p.m.

    Kyle Whittingham's name gets mentioned for jobs quite a bit. And it is well-earned (33-6 over the last three years). But not for this job. This is just speculation. If he is on OSU's radar, his name is most likely in the 20's. Utah just has not quite done enough yet to get him to that kind of level.

    Which is fine by me, he is the best coach in the state and a perfect coach for the Utes.

  • williary Kearns, UT
    May 31, 2011 2:30 p.m.

    Whit is not leaving for a east coast college job. He was offered the Tennessee job, and turned it down. Now if USC, UCLA, Stanford, Oregon some day come calling, or say an NFL coordinator position, I think he'd look.

  • TroyTown Anaheim, CA
    May 31, 2011 2:36 p.m.

    Be careful what you wish for hedgy. The Buckeyes hiring KWhit would be your worst nightmare. BYU's chief antagonist would be crippled and Michigan's chief antagonist would escape more serious sanctions.

  • Riverton Cougar Riverton, Utah
    May 31, 2011 2:36 p.m.

    Why is Bronco not considered? That's because his style is so BYU and he's happy there. Besides, OSU might be worried that Bronco would change the football team into a BYU-type model as far as morals go, and they don't want that. Bronco would be considered as a defensive coordinator, but not as a head coach in many places.

    OSU would be an excellent place to coach, but I don't see Kyle being picked over several other big name coaches.

  • williary Kearns, UT
    May 31, 2011 2:40 p.m.

    @USAlover

    Couple things.

    First, I was going to breakdown what teams have won WCC titles the last 10 years, but like everyone in the country, NOBODY CARES! WCC?

    Second, how many conference championships do you predict BYU football to win over the next decade? I guess they could run down to Joe's Trophy's and have some made. Because outside of that, they will beat their 6-7 WAC teams a year, get another 1-2 wins, play in the Kraft Fight Hunger Armed Forces Bowl against a mid-level BCS team, have no players named to any All-Conference teams, win zero Conference titles, play in zero BCS bowls, and basically continue to be irrelevant.

    And Ute fans will not care. They'll be busy playing big boy football while New Mexico State and BYU face off on BYUTV.

  • forreal people Cottonwood Heights, UT
    May 31, 2011 2:40 p.m.

    @USAlover,

    "MWC championships the last 10 years:

    BYU: 142
    Utah: 45"

    Are you just being dishonest on purpose? Or, are you unaware of the fact that the title count is virtually equal when you throw out sports that Utah does NOT COMPETE IN? DUHH. Who are you competing against in the 100 mens track and field titles? Gloat to whoever that is, because its not Utah. I don't think you are fooling anyone on this chat board. -basketball & football- equal titles. Oh, except for the tie breaker - Utah BB going to final four in the MWC and Utah football going undefeted twice. Oh, another tie breaker - Utah has two #1 overall picks in the MWC. Oh, another tie breaker - utah has had more NFL and NBA draft pics in the MWC.

    Not even close, get over it. Find someone else to celebrate your track and field and mens volly ball titles with you.

  • anti BCS Anaheim, CA
    May 31, 2011 2:50 p.m.

    WestCoast1

    Utah's basketball history is well-known, which is why the train wreck that would follow Kyle leaving Utah's football program would feel so at ease with the train wreck that is already Utah's basketball program.

    The biggest difference is, unlike Utah's football program, Utah's basketball program existed before 2004.

  • BlueSaint South Jordan, UT
    May 31, 2011 2:50 p.m.

    Funny how the fans of 'coat-tail Community college' can talk about BCS membership, prestige, and Money, but they just can't comment without mentioning BYU! I understand....With BYU the premiere University in the state, it just pops into your thoughts and onto your comments naturally.

    Funny thing about habits that come 'Naturally'....It comes from acts or situations occurring repetitiously over a period of time, as in BYU domination!

  • scenic view Baltimore, MD
    May 31, 2011 3:14 p.m.

    forreal people

    "Are you just being dishonest on purpose? Or, are you unaware of the fact that the title count is virtually equal when you throw out sports that Utah does NOT COMPETE IN?"

    That's gotta be one of the most absurd arguments ever made. BYU can't count championships that the Utes don't even bother competing in because, obviously, if the Utes aren't competing, they aren't legitimate championships.

    BYU's men's volleyball championships were won competing against the likes of UCLA, USC and Stanford in the best volleyball conference in the country. BYU's men's and women's track and field championships were won with hundreds of athletes who have gone on to compete and win in the NCAA national championship meet.

    We'll see your #1 picks (one of them a bust), and raise you a Heisman Trophy winner, a Super Bowl winning MVP, and a three-time NBA champion (2 as a player, 1 as a GM).

    BYU has won multiple individual and team national championships in both track & field and men's volleyball.

    What have U done besides abandon track & field because Utah couldn't compete?

  • Dutchman Murray, UT
    May 31, 2011 3:14 p.m.

    I have a different take on things. The better job for Urban is Athletics Director at the U. Chris Hill will be retiring soon after a long stint on the hill. It is a perfect job for Urban. He can be close to all the sports he loves but not have the stress to recruit and run them. Urban would also be a great fund raiser to build new facilities. Utah will have the money now to pay top dollar for an Athletic Director and the coaches. I say get Urban Meyer lined up to take over for Chris Hill.

  • Rockwell Baltimore, MD
    May 31, 2011 3:25 p.m.

    willary

    "And Ute fans will not care. They'll be busy playing big boy football while New Mexico State and BYU face off on BYUTV."

    At least you'll be able to watch BYU play New Mexico State on BYUtv so you'll be able to comment on the game.

    But, you'll also be able to watch BYU play big boy football against Mississippi, Texas, Notre Dame, Nebraska, Georgia Tech, West Virginia, Syracuse, TCU, Wisconsin, Ohio State, UCLA, USC, Boise State, and Penn State on ESPN.

    It's doubtful many BYU fans will be shelling out $20 a month to catch Utah vs Washington State on the PAC 12 channel.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    May 31, 2011 3:26 p.m.

    @wedgie

    whittingham was not thought of, or even brought up as, a viable candidate for the osu job. This originated on the "block u" blog. That should tell you all you need to know but you'll pretend it is actually viable anyway.

    LOL

  • USAlover Salt Lake City, UT
    May 31, 2011 3:29 p.m.

    TRAIN WRECK!!! Can't wait. You studs had to block a field goal in the last seconds AT HOME to beat an average BYU team, which beat you the year before.

    And do you want to talk about Basketball? Didn't think so...

    Top to bottom, BYU has a better sports program as evidenced by three times (3X!!!) the amount of conference championships.

    Keep moving, nothing to see here but a bloody TRAIN WRECK!

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    May 31, 2011 3:36 p.m.

    @forreal people

    But of course you lying in your attempt to refute what you claim is a lie might be the funniest thing I have ever read on these boards.

    BYU's volleyball titles aren't counted in the tally of MWC titles between BYU and utah because, get this.....BYU doesn't play men's volleyball in the mwc. LOL!

    It isn't considered any part of that 140 something to only 40 something tally and wasn't counted as such.

    Nice try. LOL!

  • USAlover Salt Lake City, UT
    May 31, 2011 3:40 p.m.

    News for Utah fans!!

    Track and field is an important PAC 12 sporting event. You might want to start a team or something.

    Mock Volleyball all you want, but it's not a laughing matter in the PAC 12. Utah will be.

    TRAIN WRECK!

  • williary Kearns, UT
    May 31, 2011 3:41 p.m.

    @Rockwell

    You just listed around 20 games over the next 6-7 years.

    That's about 30% of your schedule.

    Care to list the WAC teams who will make up the remaining 70%?

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    May 31, 2011 3:43 p.m.

    @westcoast1

    Even though your post was facitious you can verify it by going into the article and clicking on the link to the story that this originated from. The link will take you to the pac10 website where the story is printed. On the bottom of that story there is another link which if you click on it takes you to the "block u" website and there you will find the exact same story which had been cut and pasted from the "block u" and then posted on the pac10 site.

    So the "block u" guy made some speculative article, with no sources, no back up, and to be honest he didn't claim it was anything but speclation on his part, then the pac10 site cut and pasted it to their site, then the dnews provided a link to it on their site, and then people on here started acting as if there was really something to it.

    Now in my opinion I think Kyle would be a great candidate for that, or any, job. He is an excellent coach. But there is nothing to this one yet, it is just a ute homer spreading speculation.

  • Uteanymous Salt Lake City, Utah
    May 31, 2011 3:52 p.m.

    forreal people

    So, BYU can't count these MWC championships because Utah doesn't "compete" in them?

    MWC Men's Regular Season Championships

    Baseball
    BYU 1
    Utah 0

    Basketball
    BYU 6
    Utah 5

    Football
    BYU 4
    BYU 4

    Swimming & Diving
    BYU 6
    Utah 1

    Tennis
    BYU 5
    Utah 1

    Yes, BYU and Utah are about even, except that BYU leads IN EVERY SINGLE SPORT!
    (except football where BYU and Utah are tied)

    Total
    BYU 22
    Utah 11

  • Katiebugg Salt Lake City, UT
    May 31, 2011 3:54 p.m.

    Funny how the VERY FIRST comment on a ute article has to bring up the Bronc.

    Hey, Lifelong Ute, obsess much?!

  • Uteanymous Salt Lake City, Utah
    May 31, 2011 3:54 p.m.

    correction

    Football
    BYU 4
    Utah 4

  • There's always room for Jello Salt Lake City, UT
    May 31, 2011 4:08 p.m.

    Good luck to Bro. Whittingham!

  • williary Kearns, UT
    May 31, 2011 4:09 p.m.

    @USAlover

    And yet, with BYU excelling at Track and Field and Volleyball, they were still left out to play by themselves.

    That's just what happens when your football team hasn't done anything relevent to anyone outside of Provo in 3 decades.

    Train Wreck = Something BYU is still begging for. A Pac-12/Big-12 invite.

  • Uteology Fort Worth, Texas
    May 31, 2011 4:10 p.m.

    @phoenix

    "No, I typed it while wearing the "Utah-TCU Biggest Game in Utah History" t-shirt I picked up for a nickle in the oil rags bin at a local thrift shop."

    ----------------------

    You sound like the Ohio State coach... you now there are no such t-shirts.

    However, I don't need to make anything up for your preseason hype:

    From Deseret News archives:

    BYU football: Provo celebrates stunning win
    Published: Monday, Sept. 7, 2009

    PROVO People danced in the streets.

    They hugged perfect strangers.

    They lit off fireworks.

    And in general, they celebrated and celebrated and celebrated.

    For a city home to a university that's won the title of "Most stone-cold sober" for 12 years in a row, Provo didn't look, act or feel like Provo Saturday evening.

    In the wake of BYU's stunning 14-13 upset over No. 3 Oklahoma, spontaneous celebrations erupted throughout this city and lasted well into the early hours of the morning on Sunday.

  • forreal people Cottonwood Heights, UT
    May 31, 2011 4:18 p.m.

    Duck hunter and USA lover,

    I know you agree with me. Your just arguing to be silly. No football fans I know bring up track and field every time they are arguing for their football team. What a joke. Mentioning BYU track and field competing against PAC 12 teams as a rebutle to me asking who they are competing against while debating MWC titles totaly undose your argument.

    Pac 12 teams are not in the MWC last time I checked. So competing against them has zero to do with MWC championships, against NO ONE.

    If you were competing in the PAC 12, which your not because the PAC 12 never considered inviting BYU, you would not be winning conference championships.

    Wow, it's like arguing with a brick wall.

  • Dutchman Murray, UT
    May 31, 2011 4:19 p.m.

    "It's doubtful many BYU fans will be shelling out $20 a month to catch Utah vs Washington State on the PAC 12 channel."

    Maybe so, but BYU fans will be shelling out the money for the PAC 12 channel because that is where every BYU vs a PAC 12 team (including Utah) that is played in a PAC 12 venue will be televised because the PAC 12 controls the content of its network and when it is a home stadium it controls the TV. So get ready BYU fans to shell out the money for the PAC 12 network whether you like it or not. You see, the genius of Larry Scott is he knew how to capture the BYU fan base and their money without having to invite them into the conference.

  • forreal people Cottonwood Heights, UT
    May 31, 2011 4:27 p.m.

    scenic view,

    "We'll see your #1 picks (one of them a bust), and raise you a Heisman Trophy winner, a Super Bowl winning MVP, and a three-time NBA champion (2 as a player, 1 as a GM)."

    LOL. Dude, none of that happened while in the MWC. ALL of what I metioned was while the UTES were in the Mountain West. After all, that's what the post I was responding to was about. Your really streching there budy. And no, those BB credentials that your mentioning don't compare to Utah's. How does byu basketball sudenly enter the conversation? You better check the NCAA record books before mentioning utah and BYU bb in the same argument. Utah is one of the top programs of all time.

    3 time nba champion from byu and the MWC - LOL.

  • USAlover Salt Lake City, UT
    May 31, 2011 4:36 p.m.

    Utah got the nod because of their research facilities and state affiliation, NOT because their athletics are superior because they are not nor because they sell more tickets because they DON'T!

    Colorado got the not for similiar reasons and their football program is horrible.

    BYU was also uninvited because of their specific religious affiliation and the recent Prop. 8 fiasco.

    Back to your video games....

  • forreal people Cottonwood Heights, UT
    May 31, 2011 4:43 p.m.

    Uteanymous,

    I'm a football fan dude. No one cares. Go argue about your swimming titles on the swimming stories. Your 4 titles in FB don't compare with the 4 titles utah one. BYU wins football titles on down years. That is a proven fact. Show me the year in BYU football history where 3 teams in BYU's conference were final top 25 teams, and two of them top 10. Show me please where byu ever won a conference title against a good conference. In the MWC, the pecking order was clear, top ten utah vs. top ten TCU. Where was byu against the good teams? Utah beat a top 10 (FINAL POLLS) tcu team in 2008, and destroyed a top 25 byu team (FINAL POLLS). Show me where byu has ever competed on that level. Please.

    Point is that it's all about FB. BB is a way distant second.

  • Uteology Fort Worth, Texas
    May 31, 2011 4:45 p.m.

    Not sure why I'm being censored by Deseret News but let me try again...

    @phoenix

    First, you know there are no such "Utah-TCU Biggest Game in Utah History" t-shirt's but we all know what happeded after Game 1 in Sep. 5 2009:

    "People danced in the streets. They hugged perfect strangers. They lit off fireworks. And in general, they celebrated and celebrated and celebrated...Provo didn't look, act or feel like Provo Saturday evening."

    -- Dan Rasmussen, Deseret News (Monday, Sept. 7, 2009)

    In conclusion, preseason is BYU's time of year by postseason reality has sunk in. After all, you can't really dance in the streets after a game in December when your fierce rival has already won in January twice in the BCS era.

  • TheHailstorm South Weber, UT
    May 31, 2011 4:56 p.m.

    Where coaching nationally is concerned...
    National Coach of the Year
    Bronco 0
    Coach Whit 1
    Clearly Kyle Whittingham would get the first look of the two.

  • williary Kearns, UT
    May 31, 2011 4:57 p.m.

    @USAlover

    Just more excuses. Utah is in the Pac-12 because of the Fiesta and Sugar bowls. Anyone saying otherwise is naive.

    Colorado is in because Denver was the biggest market left out west. Simple as that.

    Utah and BYU share the same TV market. Utah got the nod because people around the country know Utah football. They watched Utah bust the BCS, and run over Bama.

    People in wardhouses all across the country know BYU football. Sadly, once you leave the wardhouse, nobody else does.

  • Chris Bryant SLC, UT
    May 31, 2011 4:58 p.m.

    USA,

    here is a tissue.

  • Pavalova Surfers Paradise, AU
    May 31, 2011 5:06 p.m.

    @wilary..."Big boy football..."

    Answer: Poinsettia Bowl, or Las Vegas Bowl if you get lucky. Been there, done that.

  • gonefishn Salt Lake City, UT
    May 31, 2011 5:10 p.m.

    USA lover
    1) When Byu wins a close one it is clutch but when the Utes win it is a fluke? Hilarious.
    2) As far as your comment about basketball goes, just realize BYU had their best offensive and defensive players in program history but could only manage a sweet sixteen apearance. Do you think that situation will improve in the WCC? The fact that BYU has not gone passed the sweet 16 in 30 years says no.

  • Uteology Fort Worth, Texas
    May 31, 2011 5:11 p.m.

    @scenic view

    What does retired athletes have to do with what your program is today? As Utah continues to point to athletes we are currently developing you guys keep pointing to retired athletes. I like that trend, keep it up.

    @Uteanymous

    No, BYU can count all the different combination of championships they want but until they win at least ONE BCS game and get to at least ONE final four in the current era nothing else really matters.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    May 31, 2011 5:20 p.m.

    @forreal people

    So according to you utah didn't compete in any sports in the mwc except football and basketball. LOL

    Nice program you have there. It ought to vault right to the top of the pac10 in no time.

    LOL!

  • Swoop Salt Lake City, UT
    May 31, 2011 5:22 p.m.

    Uteology

    "BYU football: Provo celebrates stunning win
    Published: Monday, Sept. 7, 2009"

    The next time Utah upsets an elite, #3-ranked team BCS championship game team led by a returning Heisman Trophy winning quarterback (who, btw, was selected #1 in the NFL draft THAT year), in the inaugural, made-for-television college football game in Cowboys Stadium, U have BYU's permission to celebrate when Utah returns to Salt Lake airport in the wee hours of the morning.

    The closest Utah has ever come to such a momentous win was Utah's Sugar Bowl win over #4 Alabama.

    Utah, as I recall, had a formal parade for finishing 2nd.

    BYU, had a spontaneous celebration for an early season win, no different than Utah fans rushing the field every time the Utes won a home game against a ranked opponent in 2008, none of which were ranked in the Top 10.

    Get over your jealousy already.

  • UU32 Bountiful, UT
    May 31, 2011 5:28 p.m.

    Once again, it all gets back to BYU vs. Utah. I really think I could write an article about an club archery team at the University of Utah or about the BYU intramural softball championships and somehow it would turn into a showdown of BYU vs. Utah, 1944 vs. 1984, who is the best, discussion between duckhunter and hedgehog - wiht the usual detractors chiming in. Tiresome.

    Coach Whit is happy where he is. Bronco is perfect for his job. Neither is going anywhere. Move on, nothing to see here.

  • Uteology Fort Worth, Texas
    May 31, 2011 5:35 p.m.

    @Swoop

    The next time BYU upsets an elite, #3-ranked team in a BCS GAME in January... by all means party like its 1984. Until then you're the only "legacy" program to celbrate at an airport in the first week of September. If I am wrong then please correct me.

    Utah had a parade for the ONLY undefeated team in the nation who beat 4 ranked teams (2 top 7). We had no control over being #2.

    Ah, theres a huge difference between storming the field, ala Notre Dame fans did with a win over at the time #14 Utah, then celebrating in the streets of Provo and Provo Airport like you won a NC in September.

    Why would ANY Ute be jealous of BYU celebrating a preseason NC in September at 1-0? I am amused not jealous.

  • KH Holladay, UT
    May 31, 2011 5:40 p.m.

    Hey Swoop,

    There is a big difference between the Oklahoma game and the Alabama game. It is true that Oklahoma started the season #3 in the nation, but they didn't even end up in the top 25, which means they really weren't nearly as good as projected. And that heisman trophy winner was out the entire second half of your game.

    "Utah, as I recall, had a formal parade for finishing 2nd."

    The parade was actually for finishing the season undefeated. That 2008 team had reached their full potential. No team can ever do better than undefeated.

    "no different than Utah fans rushing the field every time the Utes won a home game against a ranked opponent in 2008, none of which were ranked in the Top 10."

    TCU actually finished the year #7 in 2008. Nice try.

    You will always remember celebrating after the Oklahoma game, only to get blown out twice that same year, while I will always remember celebrating after the Alabama game, knowing that Utah was the only undefeated team in the nation.

  • LonestarRunner Salt Lake City, UT
    May 31, 2011 6:04 p.m.

    forreal people

    A conference championship is a conference championship. NOBODY goes back to check whether the conference was UP or DOWN during a particular year.

    AP Top 25 Finishes during the MWC era:
    BYU 5
    Utah 4

    National Individual Award Winners during the MWC era:
    BYU 1
    Utah 0

    MWC Championships
    BYU 4
    Utah 4

    10+ Win Seasons during the MWC era:
    BYU 5
    Utah 5

    Even during BYU's worst decade since the 70's,
    even with BYU's worst three year period since the 60's,
    even during Utah's best decade in Utah football history,
    the Cougars still managed to finish in the AP Top 25 more time than the Utes

    in fact, BYU finished in the AP Top 25 as many times during the MWC era, as the Utes have in the ENTIRE HISTORY.

    BYU had THREE Top 15 finishes during the MWC era; Utah only had TWO!

    Utah fans have this fantasy that occassional great seasons somehow make all of their mediocre seasons in between great.

  • Truth Machine Salt Lake City, UT
    May 31, 2011 6:13 p.m.

    Uteology

    "Utah had a parade for the ONLY undefeated team in the nation who beat 4 ranked teams (2 top 7). We had no control over being #2."

    Actually, U did.

    Utah finished #2/#4 in 2008, because the Utes finished UNRANKED from 2005 to 2007.

    BYU finished #1/#1 in 1984, because the Cougars finished #7/#7 in 1983!

    Call us the FIRST time Utah manages to finish in the Top 15 two years in a row.

    BYU has managed to do that several times, including as recently as 2006/2007.

  • forreal people Cottonwood Heights, UT
    May 31, 2011 6:17 p.m.

    @lonstar runner,

    Why dont you go back and look at the average computer ranking AND the average human ranking for those top 25 finishes, Utah is higher ranked in both. So a 5-5 tie is not the real story.

    Your "3 top 15 vs 2 top 15" comment is absulutly absurd. How about I counter with our "2 top 4 finishes vs 0 top 4 finishes" or "2 top 10 vs 0 top 10" or our "2 undefeted vs 0 undefeted" or our "2 bcs bowl victories vs 0 apperances"
    or the Utes having more wins against ranked opponants. Or the utes having the most wins against BCS programs out of any non BCS school in the nation, since the BCS (1998).

    The level of competition is all that matters. That's why Utah, BSU, and TCU did not play for a NC, and why byu was never in the conversation for anything close to a BCS game.

    My favorite though, showing ABSOLUTE dominance over the 84 cougs accomplishment 27 years ago (zero wins against ranked in final polls): 2008 Utes had 4 top 25 final poll wins, two top ten. (Most in byu history 2 in one season)

  • Mt Rushmore Arlington, VA
    May 31, 2011 6:30 p.m.

    Uteology

    "Why would ANY Ute be jealous of BYU celebrating a preseason NC in September at 1-0? I am amused not jealous"

    Gotta love the Utah fan "preseason NC" hyperbole. BYU fans were simply spontaneouly celebrating a big win over a storied program.

    It was nothing close to that week-long, mid-season national championship qualifying game celebration by Utah fans last season in what was supposed to be the biggest game in Utah history, only to have TCU slam the door on Utah's by halftime in that 7-47 humiliation.

  • Andy Tomasso Layton, UT
    May 31, 2011 6:32 p.m.

    Really Utah should give wit a big raise, they'd be DONE without him.

  • hohum Saint George, UT
    May 31, 2011 6:43 p.m.

    Willary: Does the u teach that ohio is on the east coast? Midwest is what everyone says.

    Anyone know who wrote this article? Name was jazzyute? 20 year old ute, why would he have said that Bronco was considered?

    Maybe tressel could do the Pete Carrol, who is from the mighty BCS power conference -- pac 10, try to cheat the sytem, buy players, turn a blind eye to what is going on, get caught, move on to he NFL and leave the school. Money as so constantly refered to by the BCS posters here, evidently is as they say, the breeder of corruption.

    Is the pressure of winning going to build on Whit. I think he is a great guy and ethical, and will resist the push from all of the utes who want a winning program and a national championship. The boosters who never played, know so much more than he does and will judge him every monday morning.

    Good luck to him and I hope he finds reasons to stay that are greater than the money that might be offered to leave for a program in question.

  • B C Park City, UT
    May 31, 2011 6:45 p.m.

    forreal people

    The level of competition is factored into the final rankings, which are the ONLY measurement that matters in measuring the overall success of a season.

    You can whine all you want to, but...

    If Utah's 2008 Top 25 wins were really that impressive, why weren't the voters more impressed?

    If BYU's 13-0 record against unranked teams was really so unimpressive, why were the voters so impressed that BYU was selected #1 by ALL FIVE major selecting organizations in 1984?

  • gonefishn Salt Lake City, UT
    May 31, 2011 6:48 p.m.

    Truth machine
    TCU's Rose Bowl 2010, Boise's Fiesta 2009 and Utah's Sugar 2008 are far more relevent to modern college football than 1984. Congratulations you did less than what Utah has done twice. BYU 1984 = Hawaii 2007 except Hawaii had to play Georgia in the Sugar Bowl.

  • man of few words Salt Lake City, UT
    May 31, 2011 8:08 p.m.

    I love how Ute fans don't HAVE a National Championship so they constantly have to claim that BYU's doesn't count. U sound insecure!

  • Uteology Fort Worth, Texas
    May 31, 2011 8:42 p.m.

    @Truth Machine

    That 1984 team with a #104 SOS would not be playing in BCS game let alone the title game today, so give it a rest.

    In 2006/2007 how many final ranked teams did you beat?

    ONE #16 TCU... you've won TWO final ranked teams in the MWC era.

    So congrats on your great accomplishments.

    @Mt Rushmore
    "Gotta love the Utah fan "preseason NC" hyperbole. BYU fans were simply spontaneouly celebrating a big win over a storied program."

    Actually the original response was to phoenix a BYU fan, who confused his team with the Utes when he said, "Congratulations to the Utes on winning another pre-season national championship!"

    Again sir, name another "legacy/prestigious" program, as many BYU fans describe themselves as, that celebrated at an airport for beating a "stored program" in week one. I've been watching football since the mid 80s and I can't recall a SINGLE airport celebration after GAME 1.

  • Uteology Fort Worth, Texas
    May 31, 2011 9:01 p.m.

    @Truth Machine

    Utah finished #2/#4 in 2008, because the Utes finished UNRANKED from 2005 to 2007.

    BYU finished #1/#1 in 1984, because the Cougars finished #7/#7 in 1983!

    ------------

    Ahh, then please explain why...

    TCU who finished #2/#2 in 2010
    did not even get a shot at the NC
    even though TCU was #6/#6 in 2009
    while Auburn was un-ranked and Oregon #11/#11.

    I will give you a hint: BcS monopoly

  • CG Orem, UT
    May 31, 2011 9:01 p.m.

    gonefishn

    National Championship > Rose, Fiesta or Sugar Bowl win (regardless of how many)

    Uteology

    IF, Utah ever has a big win over a storied, top 5 program such as Ohio State, USC, Notre Dame, Alabama, Florida, Texas, etc., in the first week of the season GUARANTEED, Utah fans will be celebrating. Since Utah only schedules teams like Montana State we know that'll never happen.

  • Just the FAX Olympus Cove, Utah
    May 31, 2011 9:19 p.m.

    It's hillarious how Utah fans delude themselves into believing that it's more important to beat a ranked team, than it is to BE RANKED.

    I guess when you've been ranked as few times as the Utes have been ranked, you'll grasp at anything to help feel good about yourself.

  • Uteology Fort Worth, Texas
    May 31, 2011 10:45 p.m.

    @CG

    Yawn, while you live in a fairy tale world I live in reality.


    Week 1: 08-30-2008 Utah 25 #24 Michigan 23 @Ann Arbor, MI

    Nope, no airport celebrations. Granted not a top 5 team but yes a "storied program".

    Week 1: 09-01-2007 Appalachian St. 34 #5 Michigan 32 @Ann Arbor, MI

    Yes celebrations but not at an airport... and NO Appalachian St. is not a "legacy/prestigious" program like BYU supposedly is.

  • BluCoug Provo, UT
    May 31, 2011 11:15 p.m.

    @ hedgehog

    Here is the simple answer that even a cavemen could understand: Bronco has no desire to coach anywhere else.

  • Utah'95 FPO, AE
    May 31, 2011 11:43 p.m.

    Which is more ridiculous:

    Blue Saint saying, "As for Bronco and BYU? Well, when your coaching one of the premiere programs in college Football, going anywhere else would be a big step down."

    or

    The fact that 13 readers thought his comments were worthy of a recommendation.

    My advice to you 14 knuckle-heads - leave the 801 area code and suggest to sports fans that the Ohio State job is a step down from the BYU job.

    Oh, the looks you'll get!

  • MUSSing with U Baltimore, MD
    May 31, 2011 11:55 p.m.

    Uteology

    Sorry, Michigan 2008 was a team in shambles that was just starting to rebuild with a new coach; nothing even remotely comparable to a #3-ranked team that had played in the BCS championship game the year before and being led by a returning Heisman trophy winner.

    We you've finished in the Top 25 50% of the time for the last third of a century, won a national championship and a Heisman Trophy, then you can call yourself a legacy/prestigious program like BYU.

    Sorry, Uteology, but Johnny-come-lately programs that have only managed to finish in the AP Top 25 five times in their entire history don't qualify, even if they have managed to a have a couple of great years lately.

  • JustGordon Cottonwood Heights, UT
    June 1, 2011 4:38 a.m.

    Preseason National Championships and mythical National Championships for beating 7-6 teams I thought were reserved for conversations in the Provo Daily Herald or the Daily Universe. As Utes, we prefer to win BCS games, but then it is difficult to hold a conversation with fans of schools who have never been to a BCS bowl let alone won one.

  • govt rocks Salt Lake City, UT
    June 1, 2011 8:09 a.m.

    The best thing about the links is that the Sporting News picked Utah to win the PAC12 South. yet, no one seems to be commenting on that. Instead they comment on some bloggers opinion about the OSU coaching vacancy. Everyone knows it is Urban Meyers in 2012 if he wants it.

    The chest pounding of who has a better football program is ridiculous. The onloy thing that matters is what have you done for me lately. Neither program did anything memorable the last 2 seasons. They are both good, solid programs, but neither is a top program in the country.

  • Chris Bryant SLC, UT
    June 1, 2011 8:17 a.m.

    MUSSING,

    what is your point?

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    June 1, 2011 8:18 a.m.

    @justgordon

    "National Championships....we prefer to win BCS games"

    Yea who wouldn't rather finish 4th than 1st.

    LOL!

  • Uteanymous Salt Lake City, Utah
    June 1, 2011 8:58 a.m.

    Uteology

    "Yawn, while you live in a fairy tale world I live in reality."

    Your reality

    #1 < #2, #4 or #5

    True reality

    #1 > #2, #4 or #5

    Spin all you want, but for a fan base that's moving to the so-called "conference of champions", your fantasy of 2nd or 4th or 5th place being better than a championship only exists in the fairy tale world of fans who've never experienced the real thing.

    In the Olympics, they only play the national anthem for the gold medal winner.

    In the Kentucky Derby. only the winner get to wear the bed of roses.

    And in major college football, only the national champion is awarded a crystal football trophy to display in their sports hall of fame.

    BYU has one.

    Utah doesn't.

    That's reality.

  • UU32 Bountiful, UT
    June 1, 2011 9:37 a.m.

    Uteanymous - Really? Did you just take up that much space to say that it is better to have a National Championship than to not have a National Championship?

    The logic is stunning.

  • hohum Saint George, UT
    June 1, 2011 9:42 a.m.

    govt rocks:

    Could it be u might win the south is because USC can't. They are on probation, colo joke, ucla?, ua not, asu probably the winner. The u has such a pass the first year, too bad they can't prove themselves against Oregon, Stanford, Cal, different story. I wish them well, honestly, but be realistic and if they win the south, what kind of bragging rights is it.

  • Utah'95 FPO, AE
    June 1, 2011 10:11 a.m.

    MUSSing with U,

    Regarding applying the label "legacy/prestigious programs"...

    Utah has had accomplished some great things in football in the last 10 years, and was solid in the 90s, but they don't have the resume to be called a legacy program.

    While BYU has a tradition of football excellence, in my opinion they don't make the cut either. I say that not as a Ute fan, but by looking at what the national media/fans have to say on the matter. ESPN , for example, gave BYU the #25 rating in 2009 in their "prestige rating" of college football teams.

    BYU fans can certainly be proud of their tradition and the rating listed above, but I would reserve the title of "legacy program" for top 15 teams.

    Bye the way, the BCS conferences have the following numbers of top 25 and top 50 "prestige teams" in the ESPN listing:

    SEC 8-8
    Big 10 5-10
    ACC 5-9
    Pac 12 3-9
    Big 12 3-5
    Big East 0-4

    As I mentioned, BYU was 25. Utah was 45.

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    June 1, 2011 10:21 a.m.

    "Here is the simple answer that even a cavemen could understand: Bronco has no desire to coach anywhere else"

    Blewkewg,

    Nor does Kwhitt... yet the offers never stop.

    For a coach that is so innovative (as published in the Dnews)regarding cutting edge nutritional technology you'd think someone (anyone) would seek boncos services.

  • govt rocks Salt Lake City, UT
    June 1, 2011 10:22 a.m.

    HoHum: I did not make any predictions for Utah. I would say winning the south would be an incredible first year in the PAC12. No, it isn't a conference championship. But I think most people would be impressed, regardless of USC being banned. It would be diminished if USC actually finished with the best record, but they need to play out the season to determine that. I am not a delusional Utah fan. I do not think Utah is going to win the conference, but think they have as good of a shot as any other team in the South division to win. Personally I think USC finishes with the best record, and whomever comes out of the south will face that criticism. If Utah does, they have a decent shot, considering they would be facing Colorado the week before and the north teams would be playing their rival.

    The U did get a favorable schedule, but if they win the south, they get a shot at either Oregon or Stanford and the opportunity to prove themselves. You can't really ask for more than that.

  • Henry Drummond San Jose, CA
    June 1, 2011 11:11 a.m.

    I think both Coach Meyer and Coach Kyle are going to stay as far away from Ohio State as possible. Only an idiot volunteers to be captain of the Titanic AFTER it hits the iceberg.

  • MiP Iowa City, IA
    June 1, 2011 5:47 p.m.

    "As for Bronco and BYU? Well, when your coaching one of the premiere programs in college Football, going anywhere else would be a big step down."

    Quote from Blue Saint, in regards to why Bronco wouldn't consider coaching at OSU.

    For my response, I quote duckhunter (so many, many, many, many, many times): "LOL"

  • Where's Stockton ??? Bowling Green, OH
    June 2, 2011 7:37 p.m.

    Now that would be an interesting situation...However Urban is at best somewhat doubtful. There's no doubt... no doubt at all... that he'd be a logical choice...but until he knows the room temperature in the hot box that Tressel created and the fallout that's coming in terms of sactions of scholarships and post season play I seriously doubt that he would even want to be anywhere near Columbus Ohio right now. He's hotwired to take existing good teams and make them great teams...and does so on a short track... but he's not known for building from scratch. He'll test the winds but I wouldn't plan your future on him being in Ohio soon...possibly a couple of years from now.
    Now Kyle...that's a completely different situation altogether. That would be a great opportunity for him...short or long term. With or without a National Title...as long as he doesn't completely fall on his face...which even I can't visualize I'm sure OSU's President Gee a former U alum and Y professor is entertaining that possibility of seeing Whit in Buckeye Crimson.

  • Tomahawk Red North Salt Lake, UT
    June 6, 2011 1:39 a.m.

    I think it's certainly possible for Whittingham to leave Utah. I was a little concerned this past offseason about Florida/Miami.

    Of course, maybe he was never considered... but I was at least a little weary. Whittingham loves Utah and he loves the Utes. But at the end of the day, he's gonna do what's best for his family. I'm certain Whittingham is a very driven individual. Translation: his competitive side will always aspire to reach the highest level. If a situation came that he viewed as beneficial, I guarantee you he could ditch the Utes. Don't expect him to pass up the Notre Dame, Florida and UCLA types, leaving millions of dollars and personal growth on the table simply to remain at Utah.

    I think it's fair to say that most college coaches love where they coach right now. They love their cities, their players and their communities. But many of them decide to leave. Why would Whittingham be any different?

    And regarding Mendenhall... he has the potential to be a top level coach. So it may be that someday BYU will face the prospect of losing him too.