Impressive stuff. Keep up the Winning!!
I'm more excited for the coming year than I've been in a long time. I'm so glad
to be rid of the ridiculous search for BYU games that I might or might not have
with one company or the other. This ESPN and BYUtv partnership appears to be
exactly what I've been hoping for!
Don't have cable or satellite, but I love over the air HD from BYU TV, looking
forward to more events in their program schedule.
It all sounds great and I'm very appreciative of what is taking place but...untill picture quality is better (HD) not much better than the Mountain
network. I watched a few games that they covered at the WCC basketball
tournament and same old problem with no HD. I wish you would have addresed the
real issue with BYU TV which is why won't Dish or Direct give us a HD channel.
Oregon has been out of the BYU broadcasting loop for years (if it ever was in
the loop). This is exciting news as Oregon anticipates access to more sports
programming from BYU.
This living-out-of-state BYU fan is very happy that he can now enjoy all this
BYU content online or on my basic cable package.Thank you!
What you failed to address Dick is the biggest concern BYU admin have moving to
independence and moving to BYUtv. Is the casual fan and voters going to turn to
BYUtv to watch BYU sports when they are not on ESPN? Will it be like they are
still on the MWC network. Just because they have their own network does not mean
the non BYU fan, casual fan, and voter is going to turn to BYUtv to watch.
jimbobb,Give it a chance. It is just starting, and it is already
better than what we had with The Mountain. I am considering getting rid of my
satellite dish and just watch on BYUtv over the air and on ESPN3.com . That'll
save me $100 a month.
I am absolutely thrilled that BYU sports will be back in our lives. My family
lived for twenty years in the Provo area where we attended wrestling,
volleyball, rugby, football and basketball games. Then we moved to Southern
Utah, which virtually cut off all viewing of BYU sports connections. Welcome back BYU. Go Cougars!
In the article, Dick Harmon said,"I asked the director to
expound on BYU's broadcast partner ESPN as an independent, an arrangement many
BCS schools are studying carefully."This is the most
interesting sentence in this whole article, I would like to know which of the
BCS schools are CAREFULLY studying it. My guess from past statements and
rumblings is that USC, Texas, Oklahoma, and Nebraska are four of the big ones.
awesome! Already tons better than the MW sports network.
When will Dish get BYUtv in HD? Plus a Android tablet version for live
Great article. This is ground breaking and trend setting and is exactly why BYU
needed to get out of the MWC. @jimbobb Patience my friend. With
what has already been announced, BYU is light years ahead of any other
university in the country in it's sports broadcasting capabilities. HD on
satellite and more cable outlets will come. In the mean time, just having the
opportunity to see or hear all of these events without sitting in the car late
at night trying to tune in KSL or going to the stake center to try to hook up
the satellite feed, is fantastic. I spent 22 years in California doing just
that and now, wherever Cougar fans live, their options are infinitely better
than they have ever been before.
I would like to welcome all the Utah fans to watch BYU this fall except for the
two times they will be able to see the Utes play on TV in the PAC 10+2.
jimbobb did you read the article?WCC games were not in
HD. They have not begun to broadcast all of it in HD. They will after June
So let me get this straight...no matter where I live, or happen to be, all I
need to do to get a BYU game in HD is find a wifi connection and hook my iPad up
to an HD capable tv? I almost feel like the starving man that was just invited
to an all-you-can eat 5 star restaurant! There isn't another university in the
country that is doing anything like this...Go Cougs!
I won't be a happy camper until DirecTV picks up HD for BYU-TV.Might
have to spend more time at my son's, where he has Comcast.Heh.
Probably not a bad thing, but you'll have to ask him.
Something that gets lost is that last line...It isn't about money it
is about exposure.BYU has all the money it is going to need.As for picture quality, it is being broadcast in HD online. It is only
a matter of time before Dish and Direct come on board. Keep sending your emails
to the people in charge and it will happen. The HD quality of the broadcasts is
incredible. Seems like BYU is making all the right decisions at all
of the right times.2011 - 2012 is going to be a great year to be a
Cougar fan.Thanks to all involved.
I hope BYUtv makes apps available for RoKu and other devices that stream content
from the web to the TV.I use a cable service called SkyAngle that
connects to my wireless router and streams a limited number of channels. About
the only thing I don't get that I really want is BYUtv. I have asked them many
times to add BYUtv to their line up. The company is controlled by people of
another faith, a faith that is very critical of the LDS church.Roku
is my means of getting BYUtv without having to pay for an expensive cable
While it will be great to see all of the BYU games, I hope you/we can get dish
network to add BYUtv hd soon. Jimbobb is right that the current picture (and
sound) quality is not so great.
JDL Why would Texas, or any other BCS school address independence. The
other item that BYU admin are concerned about are travel costs, finding quality
opponents to play on a weekly basis, season tickets renewal are down due to
their home schedule. Texas will not address independence any time
soon they already have the best of both worlds a conference with several rivals,
teams that they can schedule in close proximity and they do not have to go to
the lower tier non AQ teams to schedule. ESPN is paying Texas $300 million over
the next 20 years for the privilege of distributing their network. I
think Dick is stretching the truth a little there.
Looks like UteFan123 is getting a little nervous.This is going to be
a bitter pill to swallow for the Utes.Independent BYU is the one getting
the Exposure, while Utes wallowin Washington St. and Vanderbilt type
Obscurity.BYU....*All games on National TV*ESPN
partnering on scheduling and promotion*BYU lining up Storied Programs all
accross the Nation.*BYU pioneering the way for others to follow.Texas consulted with BYU, made trips to Provo, as they studied and then
implemented their own Netrwork.What concerns Ute fans, is that when
storied progrmas, USC, Oregon, Stanford, ASU etc. embrace this New Model, Utah
will find out that the Coat-Tailing others achievements through Conference
Alignmeent, will be outmoded.Teams will have to depend on their
"Own" Brand and Cache.In the Big-12 they have already come
to this conclusion. Texas and Oklahoma receive double the TV revenues as does a
K-State, Baylor, Iowa St. etc.And Texas will reap an additional 18 million
per season from their own Network.The pac 10.2 is slow on this new
trend, because Collective/Socialism still plays very well there, USC and UCLA be
first to follow the new-order..
@Utefan123:If BYU can get this much exposure from Ute trolls, or
"non BYU fans" to use your terminology, on an article about BYUtv, Im
sure they can gain exposure with an HD channel that is in a basic subscription
I am very excited about the promise of being able to view all of BYU's football
next season. However, I have a concern that has not been mentioned in any of
the discussions. This concern will not stop me from watching but it might
affect some others. We all know that ESPN/ABC covers many games each
Saturday. Many of those games are not televised to every region for free
viewing. Those that are not are offered on ESPN GamePlan and cost the viewer
more as a subscription item. I'm curious if some of BYUs games will be offered
at this extra cost. Does anyone have any input on this?Either way, I will
be watching every minute of every game.
UteFan123"Why would Texas, or any other BCS school address
independence?"The answer is, because their brands are big
enough to sustain them. When other schools saw what BYU accomplished it raised
some eyebrows and is still raising eyebrows. For others it seems to be raising
ire, like in Utah, because their brand is not one of the bigs. BYU
had the foresight to see the big picture and they planned accordingly. Who knows, but there may someday be a defacto conference of independent
champions with bowl associations of their own after Jan 1st, maybe even the Rose
BYUtv mentioned previously that they were working on an android app as well.
Did Harmon simply omit this from the article or has BYUtv all together dropped
plans on making an android app??
BYUtv already is beta testing a Roku app (it is awesome - tons of games, shows,
etc all VOD).I suspect they are building out the infrastructure so
that roku, ipad, ipod, android, etc all use a similar backend and just have a
slightly different interface.
We want to see the 1990 bowl game against Texas a&m on BYU tv. I don't
believe it has ever been replayed on KBYU. How about a replay of of any of BYU's
losses? Would get more viewers.
A couple points to make. 1. Texas is watching very closely what BYU is
doing. And yes, several others are watching as well. In addition to the schools
mentioned, you can add Florida and Alabama as well. The reason these teams are
so interested is because they know full well that they are the lions in their
leagues and they don't appreciate the fact that all the cubs are taking money
from them. In addition, they want more control. If BYU is successful with this
endeavor you will see these other teams follow suit. 2. BYU does
need to figure out how to fund this long term. They don't need to be profitable,
just cover their costs. With that, they could offer very cost effective
advertising to companies like PepsiCo to promote Sierra Mist, Pizza Hut, Taco
Bell, etc. They could include ads at no Add'l cost for the Internet broadcasts.
Once you get one good nat'l company, it is easier to get others. This will also
lend more credibility to this endeavor.
UteFan123"Why would Texas, or any other BCS school address
independence?"Here is something that came from somebody in the
BYU decision-making process over this whole independence thing:"The contract with ESPN only has a guaranteed minimum, but will grow each
year as the schedule strengthens....BYU's officials have been in
close discussions with Texas, Florida, Ohio St., Notre Dame, ect. They all want
the same type of deal with ESPN, but want to see how BYU works with ESPN on
scheduling and how the contracts play out. According to the source,
mega-conferences aren't the thing of the future. Independence will be the thing
of the future."The Big East seems very interested in adding BYU
(all the BE fans are excited about it, too), but BYU will likely reject the
invitation if it comes. This independence thing is working out better than we
originally thought it would. Besides, the BCS may not be around much longer (or
AQ status for conferences), so staying independent will likely be a better move
in the long run. Why join a BCS conference if the conference loses AQ status in
a few short years?
It seems to me that Dick is overplaying this so called "partnership"
between BYUtv and ESPN. It if understand correctly ESPN has
purchased the rights to a certain number of BYU games each year and BYUtv gets
to rebroadcast those games.Beyond that, BYUtv broadcasts any game
they want plus classic BYU games that were originally broadcast by ESPN.That's it? That's all there is to it? If I may be so bold
as to say... "Big Deal..."
JimBobb it is called $$$$. DirectTV and Dish want $$$$, more than BYU most
likely is willing to pay at this time. Dear Utefan: I quote from
the article; "It remains to be seen how BYU can monetize sports on BYUtv
and how many viewers will actually tune in. But if you don't build a bridge, you
can't expect traffic, and this is all about traffic and eyeballs, not money, we
are told." I think that was addressed. Read before commenting. Please
read the story carefully. You might not get all of the answers you want, but
BYU is fully aware that they need to find some way to get non BYU fans to tune
@Howard SYou and everyone else are about to see the "Big
Deal" when every, "let that sink in", Every BYU game, Football
and Basketball, will be on National TV.Recruits also will see it for
the Big Deal it is.
Hmmm ute "fans" desperately trying to downgrade what this is and what
it means. No surprise there. LOLOf course as BYU says this isn't
about $. BYU has $, all they need, plus a backer with pretty much unlimited
pockets. Any money BYU pulls from this is purely a bonus. What is happening here
is that BYU fans all over the country, and all over the world, will be able to
watch BYU sports in unprecedented volume. They will be able to turn on their tv
sets in Provo, L.A., Seattle, Chicago, Miami, San Jose and every in between will
be able to watch their games and matches. If others happen to watch them then so
much the better. I am sure fans of the schools they are competing against will
be watching. This really will be fantastic. More exposure than
probably any other school in the country has for more sports. ute
"fans" can deride it, but there is nothing they can do to stop it. It
is happening and it is big.
Armed Forces Network (AFN) does show a lot of ESPN games to our troops overseas.
Let's hope some of this new broadcasting output will make it to us! Please
don't forget us BYU fans in uniform. Hopefully, the iPhone/iPad apps will work
in WiFi hot spots over here, but my goal is to see BYU play on my big screen
here on AFN. Go Cougars!
@Bluto"Every BYU game, Football and Basketball, will be on
National TV."************Bluto my friend, the 2010 New
Mexico Bowl pulled a tv rating of 2.11 (26th among the 35 bowl games). That's about 2.3 million viewers. There are 6 million LDS
in the country, so considering that some of those viewers were New Mexico fans,
a lot of LDS didn't bother to watch an ESPN bowl game featuring BYU.Where is the "Big Deal" viewership for every football and basketball
game going to come from if the LDS viewership doesn't even show up for an ESPN
Howard:Is that the best you can do in your obsession with all things
BYU? The game was a daytime game on the 15th of December in, of all
places Albuquerque New Mexico. It pitted two, six and six teams, one of the
worst seasons for BYU in 35 years. I'll admit, it wasn't an exciting match up
for me but I still would have watched it had I not turned the cable TV off
because of the recession. Your argument is really weak but if you
look to the south I know you will see the bright glow of the BYU spotlight as it
illuminates the South end of the Valley and it is moving quickly toward
Taylorsville and ultimately to the u.And to answer your question,
"Where is the "Big Deal" viewership for every football and
basketball game going to come from if the LDS viewership doesn't even show up
for an ESPN bowl game?"From all the non LDS fans who's teams
are playing BYU and those who hate BYU like Howard S. even if it is hoping BYU
@DuckHunter Bluto, JDL Tough Pill to swallow $21 million + for Utah $4
million for BYU. The deal accomplishes three things for the conference
which are increasing revenue, getting more exposure for the Pac-12 network, and
to provide an outlet to broadcast non-revenue sports.Under the deal FOX
and ESPN will split showing the football games which will be shown on ABC, FOX,
Fox Sports, ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNU, FX. All mens game will be shown on ESPN. This is where the other conferences failed. The PAC will keep all revenue for
the PAC-12 network and will also launch a digital network to show games online
that arent on ESPN or Fox. Larry Scott is partnering with Google and Apple and
will have an IPAD and Iphone apps which will launch before football. Speaking to Larry Scott USC,UCLA, and the other school have seen the value of
staying in the conference if not they would have already bolted. ND is losing
money even though they signed a $15million contract this is only $1.875 million
per game. Plus they signed away their broadcasting right. The same thing that
Texas did which can limit distribution.
Howard buddy,No kidding dude, who would have wanted to watch a
couple of 6-6 teams square off...Now, when you consider a much improved BYU this
coming fall, that very well could win 10 games (or more) while playing most of
their games on National TV, 4 of which (so far) are on ESPN or ESPN2; with
possibility for 2-3 more on top of that, could be a huge improvement in ratings.
Look at what Jimmermania did during this past B-ball season for BYU
nationally...As stated recently that the BYU-Florida match up in the sweet 16
this past March was the 2nd most viewed game during the entire tourney...Think
what a successful inagural trip into Independence can do for BYU's brand on the
football side of the equation...thanks to Mr. Fredette. Consider
what a successful run by Mr. Heaps over the next 3 years will do to BYU's
notoriety....they haven't even played any games yet, and the biggies are already
lining up to play BYU down the road(i.e. Nebraska, Wisconsin, Penn State) as
rumor has it. Utah? yeah, $21million in 3 years is great, but...
...as for Utah's coming season...1 game on National TV thanks to BYU, and
nothing else (yet)...Guess who will come out ahead on that comparison???
Certainly not Utah. Heck the Mountain at least put Utah on the national TV for
some viewers...Utah is taking a step backwards joining the PAC10.2, at least for
the next couple of years until the cash starts flowing in. But don't hold your
breath. A face plant out of the gates with a green offense could hurt Utah for
years to come as far as seeing them on TV. Ask yourself this, outside of their
grudge match w/ Washington at the end of each year, how many times did anyone
see WSU on TV? If Utah goes 1-2 to start this coming season, you can bet that
no TV slots will come up for Utah later in the season...especially if they lose
big to both USC and BYU...a real possiblility...
Missionarys will get tons more baptisms with all this exposure
I am extremely excited that I'll be able to pick up the BYU games in NYC this
year. Listening to the KSL radio stream works, but watching will be so much
better.@Bluto I'm also happy for the Utes and their new affiliation.
I grew up by RES and there are lots of great people who are Ute fans. I don't
understand why Cougar fans have to try tear down the Utes to celebrate our own
good fortune. If their fans want to do that, great, but we needn't do it. Stay
Dear UteFan,Down the road you will make 21 million but you are not
going to be making remotely that amount of money for the next three years. That
is fact. Now, you should be thankful that your Utes will make a nice paycheck
thanks to BYU. Financially, Utah is going to have to depend on merchandise and
ticket sales. The challenge for Utah this year is that Utah is not going to make
any money from your basketball team and the funds will be extremely limited in
football. Hold on the for the next three years and things will be
good. Of course, it will take another 2-3 years to make up for the lack of funds
at first but Utah is looking at this as a long-term investment. Meanwhile, BYU is also looking at Independence as a long-term investment. In
the end, both schools will probably wind up making the same amount of money over
the next 10 years. And in the end, both schools will be better off than they
were in the MWC.
When BYU football and basketball games were televised over the Mountain West
Sports Network, I, with other fans turned down the TV volume and followed the
game on KSL Radio and the Cougar Sports Network for a much more entertaining
experience by listening to the "Voice of the Cougars", Greg Wrubell.
It appears we will still have that opportunity over BYU Radio.
@JDL and MichiganCoogYou both suggest that the 2010 New Mexico Bowl
viewership may have been down because is wasn't a favorable match up.Wow, that is the first time I've every heard Cougars allude to the fact that
the BYU may have a bandwagon fan base.But whatever....Let's look at some additional facts...The 2009 Vegas Bowl pulled a
2.48 tv ratingThe 2008 Vegas Bowl pulled a 2.50 tv ratingThe 2007
Vegas Bowl pulled a 2.48 tv ratingThe 2006 Vegas Bowl pulled a 1.97 tv
ratingThe 2005 Vegas Bowl pulled a 2.40 tv ratingSeems the BYU
fan base has been MIA for sometime now.But don't worry, when BYU is
on BYUtv everyday along with the "Food Nanny" I'm sure the fan base
will turn out in epic "Big Deal" proportions..... or
My local telephone company's cable service has carried BYUTV for a long time, so
it's going to be fantastic this fall to watch all the BYU football games. We
will be in hog heaven here in Northeast Texas. Back in the old days I spent a
lot of nights in my car trying to pick up KSL so I could hear the BYU game. I'm
thrilled with this new opportunity.
I watched the BYU v Utah State game on BYUtv on my computer last Fall and it was
Awesome! The picture quality was great even though it was on a computer screen.
I haven't yet gotten addicted to HD like some of the rest of you. I'm just happy
to get the games live around the world, even in regular definition.
@Howard S.What was the rating for the Oklahoma game in Dallas? What
do you think it will be for Miss., Texas and TCU this year? There have been and
will be games that get great ratings and games that don't - so what? The point
is that every game will be available for those that want to watch and with more
wins and more exposure, more viewership will follow. I'm betting that you'll be
one who tunes in regularly. Thanks in advance for your support!
"The 2009 Vegas Bowl pulled a 2.48 tv ratingThe 2008 Vegas Bowl
pulled a 2.50 tv ratingThe 2007 Vegas Bowl pulled a 2.48 tv ratingThe 2006 Vegas Bowl pulled a 1.97 tv ratingThe 2005 Vegas Bowl pulled a
2.40 tv rating" I would suspect the elite teams (i.e. Texas,
ND, Florida ect) that the tds claim they can "hang" with have trip the
ratings no matter the bowl or the competition.
For BYU it isn't about the money. For Utah it is. I think both schools are
getting what they had hoped for.However, knowing the Utah
legislature, my guess is that when the $$$ starts coming in for Utah, our
legislators will find a way to decrease funding to the U by exactly that
amount.They'll do it in the name of lowering taxes for the good
citizens of our state.Mark it down!
Well, shazam! How'd we pull the wool over them good ole boys at ESPN?!?! All
those low rated bowls, yet ESPN is buying when all (sorry, some) Ute fans are
saying Sell. Hmmmm. Look, folks, if we don't put a highly
competitive program on the field and on the floor, then we have all of the
pieces kinda spinning their wheels. But anything is better than the MWC was, and
as jimmermania showed, put the winners on the floor and the whole nation will
watch. I'm not overly shook up whether our tv deal is better than
Utah's, or how much better being in the PAC may be than independence/WCC. I care
about what happens on the field and on the floor, and right now we look to match
up real well with U.
@Y Grad / Y Dad"Well, shazam! How'd we pull the wool over them
good ole boys at ESPN?!?!"**********Nothing to be
surprised about YGYD - ESPN paid peanuts for peanuts.
@Mountainman56"What was the rating for the Oklahoma game in
Dallas? What do you think it will be for Miss., Texas and TCU this
year?"***********I don't know. Maybe you can tell me.But I can tell you this... if BYU delivers weak viewership for 6 bowl
games in a row, it reflects an insignificant national fan base and not an
occasional unattractive match up.You can bet that the big boys of
college football deliver the numbers every single game, not just occasionally...
like the BYU.
I am excited, I purchased DirectTV and had to buy the sports pack to watch BYU
games on a horrible quality channel, but now I can switch back to Dish and watch
any of the games no matter where I am.
@ Howard S.I don't recall anything in this article or any comments
claiming that BYU will have big ratings for every game. Again, that isn't the
point but thanks for your concern. Stay tuned and maybe you can bump up the
ratings with your loyal viewership.
"Well, shazam! How'd we pull the wool over them good ole boys at
ESPN?!?!"ESPN had the choice; Womens softball/bowling or BYU
football. They paid only slightly higher for BYU football.
"We couldn't be happier to be back now in a formal partnership with ESPN
and are looking forward to many great years ahead. It is truly remarkable to
think that for the first time in BYU's history, every home football and men's
basketball game will be televised live, nationwide, on either ESPN or BYUtv.
(The year) 2011 will truly be an historic year for the Cougars and for Cougar
fans regardless of where they live." Historic indeed and
2011 is just the beginning of great things to come. The days of having to search
for and find games or put up with the dreaded MTN are long gone. Nationwide fans
no longer have to worry about how or if they will be able to view the games.
With the combo of ESPN and BYUtv one couldn't ask for a much better tv deal, im
really looking forward to the official move to independence in July.
@Mountainman56"I don't recall anything in this article or any
comments claiming that BYU will have big ratings for every game."************May I consider this an admission that BYU's "vast
national fan base" has always been a myth and that the fan base, such as it
is, only shows up occasionally for high profile games?
Hey BYU haters (Howard S., UteFan, Hedgie),Your obsession with BYU
has "little brother" written all over it.Your envy is
@howie and wedgieYou both sound extremely desperate to prove
something. Not sure what it is but you are both desperate to do it. No worries
though since basicly none of utahs games will be televised this year I fully
expect you both to be watching all of BYU's games, which of course will be
televised, looking for a score update on the bottom of the screen. LOL
with ya man... ute"fan" 123 thinks its noteworthy that Dick stretches
the truth?Big Whoop... what else is new.
Howard and Hedgie First Jimmer sucks all the oxygen out of you Utah
fans, and then BYUtv and BYUs TV contract with ESPN.!!! Being buried
alive in the Pac 10 + 2 must be Suffocating. Don"t worry BYU will pump a
little oxygen your way. BYU put together a token ESPN game just so
Utah can get on National TV. Utah When you fall down and scrape your
knee this BYU fan will be there to pick U up. I do wish Utah well,
it is good for the State of Utah and Good for the University and the students at
Howard:We are all impressed with your knowledge of all things TV.
Speaking of which, what channel do you plan on watching the Utes this year?...
What Utefan123 failed to understand is that BYU isn't concerned about the casual
fan tuning into BYUtv, just the BYU fan. As a result I will be able to watch
100% of our games on TV next year, so will the families and friends of each of
the players. That's a huge recruiting advantage that BYU has over the utes. BYU coaches can tell a recruit that 100% of his games can be seen on
national TV, while Ute coaches can tell recruits that thanks to the generosity
of BYU, they'll get at least ONE game a year on national TV and because of their
Pac 10+2 TV deal maybe another one regionally broadcast on Fox Sports Northwest
or Versus or F/X or who knows where.Also, ESPN made Jimmer an
overnight sensation. Being an ESPN partner was a huge advantage in elevating
Jimmer to rockstar status and BYU coaches can sell recruits they could be the
next Jimmer while ute coaches can promise recruits they can toil in relative
obscurity as a small market bottom feeder in the Pac10+2.Rock Star
or blackhole? The choice is pretty easy.
KamUteI can't wait to see replays of "Doink", the missed
field goal attempt bouncing off the upright. Remember that one? There's more classic plays for BYU than you guys in this rivalry. I bet some
creative student will put together a nice collection of highlites that will run
frequently during the season and it won't end there.I bet Jimmer
highlites with that 40' shot at the HC will be featured a lot on BYUtv too.It's got to be tough being in the media shadows of BYU.
+1 for roku
@ little howieWinner winner chicken dinner. Here's a medal for
posting at > 10% I thought BYU was to be insignificant, left in
obscurity, etc. It's hilarious seeing you and your twin post on a BYUtv story.
why bother if it bothers you that much.Media envy gotcha bad! LOL
Hedgie, Howie:Peanuts or not, we shall see. But it is rather funny
to be mocked by fans of a team that has precisely one nationally televised game
(so far). If it wasn't for our peanuts, you wouldn't have that. And
to think, some of your fans didn't even want that game.
Hedge & Howard etall:My final post on this story. So What!! Here's a story last year on the same issue only includes some Utah
stats.BYU/Utah TV ratings shaping upMay 23,2010Dick
Harmon Deseret Morning News With all the national attention BYU has
with it's move to independence, Jimmermania, and honor code, combined with
ESPN's partnership, BYU is getting exactly what it wants, Exposure!! BYU's exposure has limited relativity to Utah so your posts trying to point
out selective statistics are in the words of Hamilton Burger of the famed Perry
Mason TV program of the late 50's and 60's, incompetent, irrelevant immaterial.
BTW Hamilton Burger never won a single case that I know of.
SammyHave you toured the BYUtv games library yet? Their website has
about 65 games on demand. I watched '09 BYU-OU last week. I am sure you won't
have a problem finding a classic BYU-Utah game.
Holy exposure. I think it will take me a year to figure out all of the
different ways I can watch my Cougars. I just learned how to set an alarm on my
iphone last night. Maybe I can get my iphone to wake me up with video of one of
my favorite BYU football highlights. I am off to find byutv.com and see what is
playing. Go Cougs!
Ok, so I finally broke down and searched (in vain) for this mythical bYutv you
speak of.I get 376 channels throu comcast....not there. Obviousley I
will never search for this again. But one must ask. If it's this
difficult to find... just how valuable is it.
I just sent a letter to DirecTV requesting BYUTV in HD. I hoping thousands of
you will do the same.
I am prepared to dump DirecTV and go to over the air over this if the satellite
providers don't pick up the HD channel. Saves me a ton of money anyways. Get
ESPN3.com on my internet provider and I am done with them for sure.
I never paid for the Mtn or basic cable even. That's why I love this new deal. I
can stream all of the games either from ESPN or BYUtv. I can see every game and
don't have to drop a dime on cable.
Hedge:You didn't decide to get the package with BYUtv. What a shock!
Another channel you didn't find in your search was the Fox regional channel that
will carry Ute games this year.Looking through 376 channels_would
that make your search "arduouse"?
"You didn't decide to get the package with BYUtv"Wynn,I thought it was free to all the huddled masses? Are you saying you have
to purchase it? or work to get it included?Good luck in picking up
anyone beyond your church goers who hear about it in the Sunday bulletin.
Hedgie,376 channels and BYUTV not there.....False (again)If you have Comcast it's there.
"376 channels and BYUTV not there.....False (again)If you have
Comcast it's there"troll,Again - it's not there.
And no, I will not waist another 10 minutes looking again. It's possible the
bYutv channel is buired somewhere between the "scrapebooking channel"
or the "burining log channel". But for the sportsfan (non lds) this is
simply to much work to find.
I have Dish and it's there. It's not the channel they say 376. Mine is in the
HD channel area in the 9325 range close to ESPN's HD channel.
hedge:The Point is you CAN get BYUtv. What package includes the FOX
regional channel showing the Utes?
It's going to great watching games in the comfort of my own home. One of the
things about the MTN that I won't miss is the HS-type broadcasts. Does anyone
know how the broadcast situation will be handled? In other words, who are the
commentators? Is Todd coming over? Do we get Sammy Linebaugh?
Hedge gets the BYU channel. I used to live in the Midwest and it's on Comcast's
basic plan. Maybe he's afraid if he does find it, he might actually watch it.
Looks like Howard S. really is watching BYU-TV.He referenced the
@hedgieIt took me 2 seconds to Google BYU-tv Comcastresult....BYU-tv channel ch. 21 BYU-tv-International ch.
100Sorry you had trouble navigating the web
If history repeats itself with sports productions I am very concerned about
watching any game on BYUtv. HD or not, the camera angles and scope are critical.
Anyone remember the days of KBYU broadcasts made with students manning the
cameras? Nothing more frustrating than watching long passes without seeing the
intended receiver, either immediately before or after the ball is
caught/dropped/etc. If we get that kind of coverage there will be no
"replay-gates" as there will be nothing to replay.BYW TV
ratings are samples based on a very limited number of people with TVs in their
homes. Any national rating on past viewership of specific games has no relation
to current or future viewership of a more focused group (i.e. BYU fans). TV
ratings come from a very small sampling of self-admitted couch potatoes, not
BYU's target audience.
Hedgie....Once the season begins, not only will You and all BYU fans
be tuning in(Mormon and Non-Mormon), but the fans of the opposing teams
will tune is as well.And as BYU-tv carries the WCC games as well, so
will fans up and down the west coast.One thing is for certain,
nobody will be watching U.
Re: Orem Parent, et al"It's about exposure"Exposure to who?? This is great for all of the LDS and BYU fans. The non-LDS,
non-BYU fan is never going to see any of these games. They may know the MTN
exists but BYU TV? I don't think so.How is the non-profit, religous
thing going to work now that they are broadcasting (for profit) football games?
Excuse my ignorance. Are we talking about commercial free TV or can I
advertise on this new channel?If the Univerisity is doing this for free,
why does exposure matter?How is the University making millions with this
@ Razzle DazzleI's all about exposure and exploiting cache and
brand. If Utah had either of those you might begin to understand what the
issues at hand are. BYU is going to be front and center on a regular basis,
which will get recruits pumped.I will be able to watch all of the
games in the comfort of my home, except for home games which I will attend in
@razzleIn Tom Holmoes keeting with the press a week ago he stated
they are exploring ways to make money from the BYUtv broadcasts but as of now I
don't believe they are making money from them. They are making money from ESPN
broadcast which will turn out to be hlf of their games or more.But
the money is not the issue at BYU that it is at utah or other schools. BYU has
all the money they need so this is truly about exposure. For the BYU fans across
the country, and around the world, BYU making money is not the concern, seeing
the games is the concern, and they will now be able to see the games. Also the
opponenets fans will get to see the games and will seek out BYUtv when their
team plays BYU. Then they will know about BYUtv. It is a process but it is going
to get better with time and in the meantime all of those greatful fans around
the world that get to see the games will contribute to the university because
that keeps them closer to the university. Not all things are
apparent without some thought.
Hedge,Okay, I'll help you this time but remember, Big Brother can't
be there for you all the time. BYUHD is found on channel 647 on
Comcast. You can also see them on Comcast on channels 11 and 21. Glad I
@FanofBYUYour a better man than me for trying to help the HedgeTroll
find the BYU Channel.
If they can't figured out a way to monetize BYUtv Sports then who is going to be
paying for the "exposure"? The production, the HD truck, and
facilities aren't free or cheap. Is the Athletic Dept budget or the general BYU
fund going to pay the cost? I hope it's not coming out of sacred tithing funds
because there are far more effective ways to spreading the gospel then through
Thanks Duckhunter. Any college football we can get here in Brazil will be huge
exposure from all US expatriates. We don't have BYUtv yet, hope it is here by
Don't be too hard on those who say they can't find it on Comcast. While BYUTV
is on Comcast in Utah and in many areas of the US it is not in all Comcast
areas. Many of my friends have given up on Comcast back East and have switched
to Dish or Direct to get it.
Ute123 seems to be missing several key points. One is simply that BYU athletics
will generate more than 4 mil in 2011 and years thereafter. In fact, once you
factor in baskeball and other sports, they will do very well.Utah
will draw very little money for 2 plus years and most likely will be far behind
Colo and the other schools who get the big bucks right away.Another
point is that Texas is in fact looking at doing there own stuff in addition to
the Big 12=2 contract. They have been looking at how BYU is doing their own
production.Had the MWC and their TV contract gave BYU more latitude
especially with allowing them to produce their own non-MTN games, BYU may have
never left the MWC. If BYU's deal would have been like what Texas got, we may
still be talking MWC and the new BSU rivalry.When the other big
conferences sign their new TV deals, the PAC12 may not look so rosy. As TV
money goes up, so will BYU's TV money. As long as they draw ratings like in the
past, life will be good.