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  • IndianaCoug Bloomington, IN
    May 18, 2011 10:30 a.m.

    There's no way he falls to 20. If the Jazz don't take him at 12 the Suns will at 13. Worst case scenario: getting picked 13th. Not bad for someone who is "unathletic", "can't play defense", and, oh yeah... can still drop 47 on the Utes in his sleep.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    May 18, 2011 10:46 a.m.

    IndianaCoug,

    He'll be in a Euro league within 2 years. Mark it down.

  • andrewute1 Salt Lake City, UT
    May 18, 2011 10:58 a.m.

    Even though I am a Utah fan, I dont care if he played at byu or not as long as he is very productive for the Jazz. If he plays for the Jazz I hope he is a very good asset for the team and that he helps the Jazz do good.

  • Veritas Aequitas Fruit Heights, UT
    May 18, 2011 11:04 a.m.

    Jimmer is fun to watch play. Not so much fun to watch sit.

    I hope he is good enough to get on the floor in the NBA.

    If not...

    "We always had last winter".

  • Lone Star Cougar Plano, TX
    May 18, 2011 11:08 a.m.

    I would love to see Jimmer in a Mavs uniform but that may not happen as we already have JJ Barea on the team. The closest player in the NBA that looks and plays like Jimmer is JJ Barea. If you saw the game last night with the Mavs and the Thunder, you saw JJ tear up the Thunder. Yes, JJ comes off the bench but the Mavs have the best bench in the NBA and JJ gets great play time. Between Dirk and JJ, they tore up a very good Thunder team.

    I believe that if you want to see something close to what Jimmer will look like in the NBA, watch JJ Barea last night or in the up coming games. He totally turns games around.

  • Two Cents Springville, Utah
    May 18, 2011 11:24 a.m.

    If he plays defense at the combine, he's top 10.

    Go, Jimmer, go!

  • WhatsInItForMe Orem, Utah
    May 18, 2011 11:29 a.m.

    Talking about Barea, he's a poor-man's Jimmer--not as strong, as big, as good with a crossover, as long-ranged in treys, etc. Yet, look how well he plays on a team with OTHER SCORERS.

    Kind of like the Jazz. Other scorers. Something Jimmer's never experienced, but would love it, because he's just as happy getting assists as scoring. He only scored so much in college because he could and his teammates couldn't.

    If you watched all of BYU's games, you will have seen many, many lost assists because his teammates couldn't finish.

    The Combine is going to be fun to follow, especially with Jimmer going up against the several PGs everyone thinks should go higher than him. He'll surprise a lot of people.

    That'll make it hard for the Jazz, if their pick positions don't change, to pass him up at the third pick. He won't be around for the 12th.

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    May 18, 2011 11:31 a.m.

    fastforward three years....euro league.

  • MiP Iowa City, IA
    May 18, 2011 11:53 a.m.

    I agree with WahtsInItForMe, I don't think he'll be around at the 12, and the Jazz won't be taking him at the 3. If he is around at the 12, and the jazz took a big at 3, then I'd say they'd be dummies for not taking him then. He'd go to the Suns and become Jezz Hornecek, Jazz Killer, Part II.

    This kid has skills. Let him provie it at the combine. Kemba? I'd pass...

  • williary Kearns, UT
    May 18, 2011 12:01 p.m.

    If Jimmer's around at #12, which I believe he will be, the Jazz should consider him. If the Burks kid from Colorado, a very good scorer who is bigger and more athletic than Jimmer, is gone, I have no problem with the Jazz picking him. They clearly need outside shooting. Jimmer will never be a starter, but he can be a good combo-guard off the bench. He cannot play defense, that's not really debatable, but playing against other bench players that need is less important. He can be instant offense off the bench, can help stretch the floor. And he'll sell a few tickets the first year or two.

    If you're expecting more than that from him, you're nuts. And if you're expecting the Jazz to look at him prior to #12, you're more nuts.

  • Badman Houston, TX
    May 18, 2011 12:19 p.m.

    Jimmer was a lockdown defender when he first came to campus. But because he was the only player on the team who could create shots for himself and for others he could not afford to take fouls. It is that simple. The coaches told him to not play defense. If Mike Lloyd is still on the team it's a whole different strategy. But what is Jimmer supposed to do without a backup PG or any help on offense? The kid can D up no problem!

  • Starfarer Mesa, AZ
    May 18, 2011 12:22 p.m.

    Chris B

    You'll be wrong again for the next two years?

    By the way, what does mark it down mean? Mark it where. Are we keeping score? If we were, you aren't doing to well.

    Mark it down? Are NBA scouts calling you to see what you think? He will go where he goes. There are a million variables and a lot of time. None of them involve you.

    You can't even make a reasonable guess, let alone a prediction.

  • JDL Magna, UT
    May 18, 2011 1:06 p.m.

    Williary,

    You're just saying Jimmer can't play defense and he won't start in the NBA because you are a Ute homer and you can't bear to let go of your BUY prejudice. Am I correct in my assessment?

  • MGB Saint George, UT
    May 18, 2011 1:07 p.m.

    WhatsInItForMe has it right on. Jimmer is the best point guard in the draft. Check out all the year end stats of all five top PGs and Jimmer is even in assists, steals and rebounds and still out scored all others by 10 points per game while getting double and triple teamed. No even close.

  • Hondo Springville, UT
    May 18, 2011 1:21 p.m.

    I expect the Jimmer to have a career similar to that of Monsiuer Ainge. If he does, that will be a major success.

    In the past year Jimmer has done more than most. He has been awarded POY, led a team to the sweet 16, taken out a known terrorist, rapped on his brother's hit single, and been the spokesperson for hair gel.

  • Brave Sir Robin San Diego, CA
    May 18, 2011 1:24 p.m.

    "CBSSports.com's most recent mock draft has Fredette going at No. 7 to Sacramento"

    As a long-time Kings fan, let me say this:
    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

  • Whoa Nellie American Fork, UT
    May 18, 2011 1:27 p.m.

    Don't worry about what Yahoo sports predicts. Wasn't that the only publication that gave their player of the year nod to someone else? That was credible. Yahoo is the only one that would be foolish enough to mark down anything suggested by a varmint.

    Jimmer didn't play much defense this past season because he didn't have to. BYU's zone was set up to give him a rest. Worked out just fine.

  • sid 6.7 Holladay, UT
    May 18, 2011 1:38 p.m.

    I will probably end up regretting saying this being the Ute fan that I am.

    If the Jazz don't take Jimmer at #3 they are crazy. I think he is the real deal and he is exactly what the Jazz need right NOW to get them back among the elite NBA teams.

    Of course I am sure the Jazz will pick some European player that will end up working at the Hagen-Daz plant 2 years from now.

    Don't blow it Jazz!

  • mussingaround Palo Alto, CA
    May 18, 2011 1:56 p.m.

    wedgie and chrisy

    fastforward, backward, sideways, anyway you like...

    in three years, Jimmer will be a multi-millionaire and set for life financially, not to mention, fulfilling his life-long dream of playing in the NBA,

    and you two will still be creating whine from your sour grapes on every BYU article, one still curled in his little hole near blackswamp lake in Michigan and the other still sleeping on her mother's couch in the basement.

    Good luck Jimmer. Wherever you go, you'll always have fans who will have fond memories of Jimmermania.

  • TJ Eagle Mountain, UT
    May 18, 2011 2:00 p.m.

    @crisb
    "He'll be in a Euro league within 2 years. Mark it down"

    If he isn't will you go? Please!

  • Hondo Springville, UT
    May 18, 2011 2:10 p.m.

    @mussingaround

    You speak as if Jimmermania has died down. I submit that Jimmermania has moved past its infancy, but is still in the early stages!

    Depending on what team he goes to, people will get his face tattooed on their backs, wear his jerseys, and form the equivalent of book clubs to discuss his most recent performances.

    Several POYs have led their teams to the sweet 16, but not many have taken out a known terrorist, rapped on a brother's hit single, and been the spokesperson for hair gel.

  • IDCoug Boise, ID
    May 18, 2011 2:14 p.m.

    Brave Sir Robin. I heard that when Jimmer heard he was going to Sacramento at #7, he said, "Noooooooooooo."

    I am waiting to see how Jimmer is evaluated. I he does well, I hope the Jazz can still get him at 12.

  • Andy Tomasso Layton, UT
    May 18, 2011 2:18 p.m.

    I'm buying a jimmer jersey regardless where he goes, hopefully it will be a jazz uniform. Fast forward 3 years hedge still in moms basement.

  • Making Sense Herriman, UT
    May 18, 2011 2:31 p.m.

    Chris B Predictions.

    Fail.

    Enough Said.

  • williary Kearns, UT
    May 18, 2011 2:52 p.m.

    @JDL

    Please cite one source from an NBA scout or other player personnel position, where they have stated they expect Jimmer to be a starter in the league for years to come?

    He has a very unique skill, shooting/scoring, and that will keep him in the league and allow him to contribute on an NBA roster. He'll have a good career. He can be the combo-guard off the bench who comes in to score.

    What's wrong with that? As I stated, just about every team could use that guy. The Jazz certainly could.

    Clearly your blue glasses won't allow you to look at the situation realistically. If you believe Jimmer will start in the NBA for years, you're alone in that assessment from everything I've read.

    And if you believe he'll be able to consistently defend starting SG's in the league, you haven't heard the many interviews with NBA scouts that local/national radio hosts have had on. They are quite certain he will not be able too.

  • WhatsInItForMe Orem, Utah
    May 18, 2011 3:18 p.m.

    Barea! Barea! Barea!

    'Nuff said on the "Jimmer can't do it in the NBA" argument.

    Barea is no Jimmer, not by a long shot, and look what Barea can do in the NBA.

    Sure will be disgusting if the NBA is locked out this year. Can't wait to get my Jimmer fix again.

  • Black Shirts South Jordan, UT
    May 18, 2011 3:46 p.m.

    Where Jimmer goes I go. Jazz will be sold within three years if they don't get Jimmer. Fans will jump ship and follow. Millers and KOCs acts are getting old anyway.

    Jimmer will be a 15+ pt a night scorer.

  • hedqehog Ann Arbor, MI
    May 18, 2011 3:56 p.m.

    My brain got Jimmered like bin Laden. That's why I never make any sense about anything.

  • MacNasty Rexburg, ID
    May 18, 2011 4:12 p.m.

    Fast forward three years: Hedgehog still living in his mama's basement

  • factcheck Salt Lake City, UT
    May 18, 2011 4:40 p.m.

    Hedgehog. Here she goes again.

    "Mark it down" someone should go back through the archives and see how many times she said to mark it down, or how many times she guaranteed and was wrong. I am guessing it was about 30 wrong for every one right. Nice odds, I will take that bet.

    You were foaming at the mouth like a dog with rabies on the Austin Collie articles. Now you are doing the same on Fredette articles. I bet you dropped sweat as you smacked the keyboard typing out your rants and hate filled posts on how Collie would never make it in the NFL. Now you are double of nothing on Fredette. It has to hurt huh? How can you be so wrong? LOL!!! I know you simply post for amusement and to get a rise form BYU fans, but deep down inside you are bloated from all the haterade you drink. Sorry you never got into the Y, not much we can do to help. Sorry you had to go to the U via SLCC. You should have studied harder in HS. Then you would not be living in mom's basement.

  • UU32 Bountiful, UT
    May 18, 2011 5:05 p.m.

    Jazz should not use the number 3 pick on Jimmer, however if he is there at 12 it is a no-brainer - unless of course the big Congan player is available at 12 also.

    Jimmer can play, he will be valuable to whoever picks him. I'd love it if he slid to 12. My guess is he goes at 11 - because all the teams that like the Jimmer will trade up to grab him before the Jazz do as they will know that the Jazz have an interst. Just a guess though.

  • nottyou Riverton, UT
    May 18, 2011 5:25 p.m.

    Chris B. will still be living in his parents basement and will still be unemployed in two years.

    Mark it down.

  • nottyou Riverton, UT
    May 18, 2011 5:29 p.m.

    Hedgehogglet: Fast forward three years...still making bitter, derogatory comments about Jimmer as Jimmer makes millions in the NBA, Euro League or wherever.

  • WhatsInItForMe Orem, Utah
    May 18, 2011 6:18 p.m.

    Wow. Wedgie got some "Recommends"!

    Looks like the trolls have figured out they need to vote for each other to look relevant.

  • WhatsInItForMe Orem, Utah
    May 18, 2011 6:20 p.m.

    Brave Sir Robin,

    Glad you don't want Jimmer in Sacramento. The Jazz need him.

  • hohum Saint George, UT
    May 18, 2011 8:19 p.m.

    Hedgie:

    I ahve followed your remarks and perhaps you are telling the truth this time around. You got Jimmered and surely don't make sense regarding the articles. You have commented about a coach's name and religion, a teams uniforms and nearly every other thing you can. I find it hard to say but I will go and read the articles on the U (few as they are) there I probably won't find you.

    Jimmer will succeed because he wants to and he was brought up to apply his whole being to whatever he does.

  • President Joker Washington, DC
    May 18, 2011 9:12 p.m.

    If we get 18 year old Brandon Knight at 3, why would we need 21 year old jimmer at 12? Jimmer has a repulsive dislike for defense and thats why he is being projected to go at 30 to the bulls. If any team can make him play defense it's them.

  • WhatsInItForMe Orem, Utah
    May 18, 2011 10:53 p.m.

    Anticipation for tomorrow's and Friday's stats on Jimmer's foray into NBA-wannabee comparisons is killing me. Can't wait. Kind of like when his next college game was the next day. ANTICIPATION!

    Will he Jimmer the combine?

    Stay tuned.

  • BluCoug Provo, UT
    May 19, 2011 12:34 a.m.

    Dear Chris B,

    I am sure your posted are well noted in Jimmer's Locker. See 2010-2011 season. Thank you for adding fuel to his fire. He is primed to prove the critics wrong again.

    Sincerely,

    BYU fans everywhere

  • JDL Magna, UT
    May 19, 2011 8:17 a.m.

    Williary,

    "Jimmer will never be a starter, but he can be a good combo-guard off the bench. He cannot play defense, that's not really debatable, but playing against other bench players that need is less important."

    There are many who have complimented Jimmer on his game and see him as more than just a bench player including several of the best pros in the business, coaches and players such as Frank Layden, Kevin Durrant to name a few.

    To say that "Jimmer will never start" and that "He cannot play defense" is your opinion but a lot of people said that about John Stockton too and you see where that go him, to the Hall of Fame.

    Let's wait to see what his defensive skills are. Let's wait to see if he'll start.

    BYU's system didn't require him to defend but rather score so no one really knows yet. Not you nor I really know how good he is at defense but we both know he is a brilliant basketball player and an outstanding athlete.

    Time will tell, but my bet is on the Jimmer.

  • JDL Magna, UT
    May 19, 2011 8:45 a.m.

    Williary,

    "Jimmer will never be a starter, but he can be a good combo-guard off the bench. He cannot play defense, that's not really debatable, but playing against other bench players that need is less important."

    There are many who have complimented Jimmer on his game and see him as more than just a bench player including several of the best pros in the business, coaches and players such as Frank Layden, Kevin Durrant to name a few.

    To say that "Jimmer will never start" and that "He cannot play defense" is your opinion but a lot of people said that about John Stockton too and you see where that go him, to the Hall of Fame.

    Let's wait to see what his defensive skills are. Let's wait to see if he'll start.

    BYU's system didn't require him to defend but rather score so no one really knows yet. Not you nor I really know how good he is at defense but we both know he is a brilliant basketball player and an outstanding athlete.

    Time will tell, but my bet is on the Jimmer.

  • Lone Star Cougar Plano, TX
    May 19, 2011 11:30 a.m.

    Like I said, look at JJ Barea. Jimmer is 4 inches taller, stronger and possibly just as quick. Jimmer will be a game changer in the NBA, even if he comes off the bench.

  • Scoreboard Draper, UT
    May 19, 2011 4:10 p.m.

    Fast forward 3 years...Hummer is a double digit scorer in the NBA and Wedgie and Chrissy are both still working at the Circle K.

    Mark it down!!!

  • Rikitikitavi Cardston, Alberta
    May 19, 2011 6:05 p.m.

    We all know how hard Jacks worked on "D". Likewise we all know how hard Jimmer worked on "O". Seems to me it's an unreasonable request to expect any player to give 110% on both ends of the floor while facing a double team for 37 minutes. Can any of the so-called experts even begin to contemplate what it would take to accomplish the herculean feat Jimmer accomplished?