What's next? Baptist bingo night in Atlanta? No prizes awarded? NBA is
playing with fire on this. Playing with fire. People go to ball games for...
ball games. Oh what is next?
gentile, It's funny it bothers you. Makes me laugh.
Gentile,If that bothers you - and I'm not sure why it would - but
your blood might really boil when you find out that both Oklahoma City and New
Orleans have pregame prayers in the arena prior to the national anthem and
tipoff.What's next in this country, putting a phrase like "In
God We Trust" on our money or something!?P.S. The missionary
choir knocked the crowd's socks off. They were good. Really good. And the arena
exploded in applause when they finished. It was nice, patriotic moment.Jody
It is so funny to see how some people get so up set over something they want no
part of. When all they have to do is understand that events like the NBA or any
other sporting event does not constitute seperation of chruch and state. this is
showing the exersize of the first addmendment. Which lets people do these
wondefull things. It is time we the majority stand up and not be ashamed. An
when I say us the majority it I speak of all Christan's of all chruchs.
Great event, great story!
For anyone concerned about what this world may be coming to, like having LDS
missionaries sing at an NBA game, you may try getting out to any profesional
sporting event.Or you may just try getting out into the public realm from
time to time.They have 6 year old kids on up to 99 year old grandmas
sing and every imaginable group and organization sing, including other religeous
groups.It's called respect and tolerance for all walks of life.What's next, people from SD blogging on a fun Deseret News article?
The LA Dodgers have Mormon night, and its always a big hit every year. Its not
playing with fire Gentile, its smart and draws crowds to major league sports.
Boston Celtics have had a Mormon night for some years now (Usually when the Jazz
come to town).
Does it mean The Spurs should be the preferred team of every member? ROFL.
gentile is right - this is an infringement of separation of church and sports.
Well, it could've been Roseanne Barr...then the whole place would have been
praying for it to end.
I think that the audience had the final say.
Gentile -- It would have really been fun if they had sung the next verse:
" Oh thus be it ever when free men shall stand between their loved
homes and the wars desolation. Blessed with victory and peace
may the HEAVENS rescued land Praise the POWER that has Made and
Presereved us a Nation." I love the power of good music.
Great article, funny comments...what's not to like?
What a great way to raise the profile of the Church in a positive way, both the
family history part and the missionaries singing the national anthem. Truly
inspired leaders that arranged for this to happen and great young people who
pulled it off.
I don't think you're allowed to sing the 3rd verse of the star spangeled banner
at public events.The Spurs run a classy organization...I've thought
that for years, and I've never minded seeing them hoist the trophy at the end of
the year (it feels good to see a classy organization succeed). Gentile...clearly you've never lived in Texas. Keep in mind that this is the
state in which the state legislature voted unanimously in 2007 to paint the
words "In God We Trust" above the House and Senate chamber
rostrums.And don't mess with Bapist Bingo night in Atlanta. You will
only get hurt...
I am certain the music was inspiring. I am reminded however that in general,
missionaries are not allowed to watch television, listen to the radio, attend
movies, or read the newspaper. Their music listening options are generally
limited by their missions guidelines to hymns, and their reading materials to
scriptures and a very small handful of church-approved publications, all this in
an effort to keep from being distracted by the images and messages of the world.
So my question simply is this-- while at the game, did the
missionaries get to watch the San Antonio 'Silver Dancers'?Mormon
Night at sports events is a non-issue. What troubles me deeply is that a
mission is the last place an LDS young man should be exposed to a Las
Vegas-styled dance show.
cjr,Great comment. Certainly if the missionaries were outside
walking the streets of San Antonio like they normally do they woudlnt have come
across any women exposing anything from the neck to the ankles either right?We should recommend to church leaders that to avoid anything evil these
missionaries spend 2 years inside an apartment with no windows and not leaving
their apartment for any reason.This is the best way to avoid seeing
something maybe they dont want to. This would also avoid hearing any bad words
that they likely heard while at the game too.This will also make
where missions are served not as big of a deal, since they'll be staying inside
the apartment for the full 2 years also.I look forward to more of
your great ideas CJR. Thank you.
Great story. I remember my missionary days in Australia back when the Jazz were
in the finals in 97. Some nice members knew how much I loved the Jazz and would
invite us over and conviently have the Jazz game on in the back ground. They
didnt even care if I watched. :]As a missionary sometimes you just
gotta free your mind. Being able to actually go to a Jazz game while on my
mission would have been incredible. (and basically impossible, but you know what
I mean) Congratulations to all these missionaries!
Ted H,If that's your extrapolation, then you too clearly miss the
point. It's one thing to work and minister in the world, it's completely
another to invite it into your living room.The underlying purpose of
a mission isn't to provide young men and young women the opportunity to be
exposed to the sights and sounds of the world, that's a study abroad program
they can pursue in college. A mission is a ministry which requires not only
selfless service, but leaving behind the things of the world."Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit
the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted
from the world."
Jody, Dont most NBA teams have a team Chaplin? Im pretty sure the Jazz do. I
remember reading a story about him in the last year or two. And yes, some
professional athletes pray in the locker room before the game as a group.Seems like some people are a little overly sensitive. Isnt that what
makes this country great? People can pray in the locker room and have a
"Mormon Night" at their arena if the want. Amazing.Some
people need to relax, even Sean Elliot said the event brought his family closer
So I guess our sisters missionaries should covered their heads like the muslims?
and forget about going to big cities because they are like sodoma and gomorra
for our missionaries? I don't know but the thought of Jesus going to preach the
aamaritanes and telling the apostles it was all right is coming to my mind. What
about Pres. Monson then? I have a photo of him greeting some little cheerleaders
from an utahn dance academy who performed on a jazz game. He is not allowed to
go to those games either? This is sounding like the puritanes and pharisees,
really!Anyway, I think it was just FANTASTIC!! What a great way to
talk about family history! I loved it! And about the choir, wow, I am not a
master in music but I just loved to hear the bass line, somebody there has a
beautiful bass voice. I love it. And my congratulations to the mission
president. Great idea!
I just remember my son, who is serving a mission, told me once he played
football with some guys from the getto in one of those big cities. So, I guess
that's forbidden too? They were less actives but now they are full active. Is
that wrong too?
You cant put a number to how many southern baptist have sang this beatiful song
before. Thousand of times. I love to hear a great baptist voice. Did i mention i
am a mormon? There must of been a reason they sang the song. Talent! Lets just
be peaceful folks, its just a happier way to live.
This wasn't a question of of Biblical commandment or perceived pharisaic
attitude. The fact is, missionaries are asked to live a higher law which
prohibits them from engaging in all sorts of everyday activities in order to
fulfill the unique nature of their assignments. My original question then is a
fair one, and one which seems to be getting lost in a storm of overly-emotional
interjections. Since missionaries aren't allowed to watch movies or television,
listen to the radio, or read the newspaper, or to be frank, go to Hooters,
should they have court-side seats to the Spurs 'Silver Dancers'? That is the
question which has been ignored. I live in the world right along with everyone
else, but for two years, full-time missionaries are specifically meant to avoid
most of what the everyday world has to offer. Your opinion may differ than mine
on what is appropriate for a missionary. I am simply drawing an objective
comparison with their other undisputed Missionary Handbook standards. Visit the
Silver Dancers website and draw your own conclusions.
LOL at many comments. Chuckling at the missionary that said this was a highlight
of his mission. I am sure he will "Treasure" this experience for
years to come. Makes me think he did not ever baptize someone and felt the
thrill of being an instrument in the Lord's hand during that process.
Mecr. No your son did his best to relate to the people. I served in the inner
city of kansas city. Some say, you should obey and wear a suit, so they respect
you. Some folks just dont relate if they feel like your better than them, or
there intimidated by you. Your son did right.
CJR1,Never fear CJR1. The missionaries were only courtside for the
pregame shoot-around. During the game, they sat on the top row, far away from
the court. They left after the 3rd quarter...
Thanks AggieLove. I know he did right and I couldn't be more pleased with him.
He loves football. He played during high school. He was happy to tell me he
tackled a guy who was bigger and heavier than him. He is the kind of kid who
would be friends with anybody no matter race or religion or looks, most of all,
he would never criticize them. I am just glad he's better than me.
@Gentile:There's one in every crowd - how does it feel to be
TO CJR1,This was sanctioned and approved by their Mission President/s. My
father, a former Mission President would have received approval from the General
Authorities, so if the General Authorities approve, then I approve so get off
the soapbox. This was an awesome event and I hope many more experiences like
this happen in the mission field.
I really wanted to go see Barcelona play Madrid on my mission, but could never
get permission. As my mission stretched along the Costa Brava to the Costa del
Sol, I did however often see scantily clad women. If we were to avoid that, we
would have had to avoid the whole mission! A large contingent of missionaries
went to the Cotton Bowl to see BYU beat KSU in 1997. It was fun to see. The
choir sounded great to me on the Youtube clip.
Next to best rendition of our national anthem I've ever heard! And thank
you, DN, for the inspiring article. I'm happy that these remarkable young
people got the chance to "show their stuff"!