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  • Swoop Salt Lake City, UT
    April 19, 2011 9:46 a.m.

    New Mexico, UNLV or Saint Mary's would all be better options for J.J. because he'd have an opportunity to play in the Big Dance a couple of times during his career, rather than being part of a rebuilding project for the next three years.

  • MiP Iowa City, IA
    April 19, 2011 10:03 a.m.

    Stay at Utah, JJ. It will pay off.

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    April 19, 2011 10:14 a.m.

    Oliver Johnson was never offer a scholarship from Oregon or Utah

  • LonestarRunner Salt Lake City, UT
    April 19, 2011 10:19 a.m.

    "The latest sign that running after TV money is going to kill the golden goose for college football: The Pac-12 will televise games on Thursday and Friday nights this season."

    For months the kids on the hill have been beating their chests about BCS teams not having to play Thu and Fri night games; in reality, the PAC 12 will be just as much a slave to the television schedulers as non-BCS teams.

  • MiP Iowa City, IA
    April 19, 2011 10:34 a.m.

    I'm unsure how many Ute fans have actually been "beating their chests" about BCS teams playing all of their games on Saturday (for instance, Hedgehog has clearly been in favor of Sunday games), but I would agree with Lonestar that BCS and non-BCS conferences alike are becoming slaves to TV contracts, which is a little disheartening.

    And while I prefer my college FB to be played on Saturday, one or two games a year on a Friday or Thursday probably won't be the end of the college game. The bay area author even stated that Stanford had many more fans in its stands in the 60s and 70s, yet they've been playing on Saturday all of this time. So it's probably not scheduling that as key as the fact the games simply will be televised.

    So that logic seems lost. I mean, I love attending games: the atmosphere, the pagentry, the excitement---even in losses. But TV offers an appealing alternative that may just keep the stands around 50K in Palo Alto. Even on Saturday afternoons.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    April 19, 2011 11:05 a.m.

    @MiP

    Actually many of the ute trolls on here have been making comments for months about BYU having to play games on Fridays, Thursdays and even claiming they would have to play them on Tuesdays and Wednesdays. It was done in such a way as to make it appear that it was a done deal and BYU was simply being used by ESPN to fill time slots because of their contract. They also bragged utah would now be playing all their games on Saturdays.

    Of course it was all false as BYU only has a couple of non Saturday games and certainly none on a day like Tuesday. utah on the otherhand will not be playing their games all on Saturdays and might very well play more weeknight games than BYU. They will do this because the pac10 tv contract will dictate they do it and they will have no say in the matter.

    Now I personally do not mind games on Thursday or Friday nights although Fridays interfere with the High School games I attend. But calling the ute trolls out for their intellectual dishonesty and hypocrisy is certainly legitimate.

  • Taco Salad Cottonwood Heights, UT
    April 19, 2011 11:13 a.m.

    I officially dislike Boylen. Before I felt for him and was sorry things didn't work out. But now he is acting as an agent for the players that signed at Utah like J.J. O'Brien. This is bush league and unprofessional. Despite what Jim may think, student athletes sign to play for a school, NOT THE COACH. This is clearly stated in the NCAA Letter of Intent. But I guess it is obvious why Boylen never succeed in getting players were UTAH across their chest meant something.

  • Bottom Line Draper, UT
    April 19, 2011 11:18 a.m.

    Ouch on JJ, ouch on Johnson. Saturday games will be reserved for the elite of the Pac-10. Here is to Thursday / Friday / Tuesday games.

  • Skippy West Jordan, UT
    April 19, 2011 11:27 a.m.

    I agree with Taco salad on this one. Why are we even putting quotes from Boylen in the paper. We should not promote this kind of activity from him.

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    April 19, 2011 12:07 p.m.

    "Of course it was all false as BYU only has a couple of non Saturday games and certainly none on a day like Tuesday"

    Ducky,

    Because your in the "know", can you tell me the exact days and times for all of BYU football games next fall?

    Thanks.

  • Hawkeye79 Iowa City, IA
    April 19, 2011 12:07 p.m.

    Ouch. How sad to see this year's Utah player exodus becoming a repeat of last year's. This appears to be a new tradition for Utah basketball.

    For the (hopefully) minority of Ute fans who think that being a part of the Pac-12 makes a school more attractive in every way, this begs the question: Why would a talented player even consider transferring from a "big conference" school to schools from "lowly conferences" like the MWC and the *gasp* WCC?

    Reality check: For every USC, Florida, and Texas there is a Washington State, Iowa State, Vanderbilt, Maryland, and DePaul.

  • gonefishn Salt Lake City, UT
    April 19, 2011 12:12 p.m.

    Lonestar runner
    You are mistaken. The big deal with Saturday play came up when the conference tv deal was formed. At the time espn wanted the MWC to schedule games on a Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday and Friday as well as cut the money by 2/3. Only then did Saturday play become a big deal.
    All BCS conferances have played for years and will continue to play non Saturday games. The Pac 12 may even play on Sunday if there is no NFL. Although, Saturday is optimal, there was never a choice in this regard. The Pac 12 and all other BCS conferences have some non saturday games. I have not heard any Utah complaints on this issue, to the contrary many have comented about the bennifits of a national audience that playing on a Thursday, Friday, or even Sunday provides
    Where is this insecurity coming from?

  • MJB Tooele, UT
    April 19, 2011 12:30 p.m.

    to Hedgehog: Why would you want to know when BYU is playing this year. The ONLY time that you watch BYU play is when they play the U.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    April 19, 2011 12:55 p.m.

    @wedgie

    Since you are obviously incapable of using the google I'll go ahead and enlighten you. LOL

    Saturday Sept. 3rd - Ole Miss
    Saturday Sept. 10th - Texas
    Saturday Sept. 17th - Utah
    Friday Sept. 23rd - Central Florida
    Friday Sept. 30th - USU
    Saturday Oct. 8th - San Jose St.
    Saturday Oct. 15th - Oregon St.
    Saturday Oct. 22nd - Idaho St.
    Friday Oct. 28th - TCU
    Saturday November 12th - Idaho
    Saturday November 19th - New Mexico St.
    Saturday Dec. 3rd - Hawaii

    So let's see....9 Saturday games and 3 Friday games. It was actually 10 Saturdays and 2 Fridays but BYU dropped Louisiana Tech and added TCU and that is a big money made for prime time tv game on a Friday night. The Friday night USU game is traditional because that is conference weekend and has nothing to do with tv schedules.

    The Friday night games all have a scheduled 6pm start whereas the Saturday games do not yet have a starting time although BYU home games traditinally start at noon.

    Not a Tuesday, Wednesday or Thursday in the bunch although as I said weeknight games don't bother me, I actually like them. I coach football on Saturdays so I have more conflicts then.

  • bigutefan Las Vegas, NV
    April 19, 2011 1:10 p.m.

    Dish out all the digs you can Provo fans, bottom line, your not a BCS team or in a BCS conference. Enough said!

  • Pavalova Surfers Paradise, AU
    April 19, 2011 1:15 p.m.

    WOW! The boot polish must taste pretty good huh hedgie. You and all your troll kronies like otis, chrissy, naval, wilary and the rest must all have a little "foot-in-mouth" disease after that one.

    Of course for $20 mil per year (supposedly), the U will do anything the network tells you to do. I'd rather watch dancing with the stars than pick up a U hoops telecast on a Tue/Wed night.

    Would it be accurate to say the U hoops program has more coaches than actual players at this point?

  • The Disillusionist Alexandria, VA
    April 19, 2011 1:18 p.m.

    Re: bigutefan

    Let's talk about the bottom line: UofU football will be middle to bottom of the Pac-10.1.1beta, i.e., no BCS bowl appearances in the foreseeable future. Utah basketball will be at the very bottom of Pac-10.1.1beta basketball ... for the foreseeable future. Bon appetite!

  • Thlete Draper, UT
    April 19, 2011 1:19 p.m.

    I personally like the occasional Thursday and Friday games because I can catch all the other CFB action at home on Saturday if I already went to the Utes game for the week. The downside is that there isn't time to tailgate on a weekday night game after work, so only 1 or 2 of them is nice.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    April 19, 2011 1:28 p.m.

    @Thlete

    I agree, I like an occasional Thursday or Friday game as well. I really don't see what the big deal is but there have been quite a few ute trolls, like wedgie and howie, that have been making a big deal about it for the last several months. I notice they no longer seem to think it is that big a deal when utah has to play on those nights. Typical behavior from them I suppose.

  • TheHailstorm South Weber, UT
    April 19, 2011 1:29 p.m.

    Gosh Duhkunter you really hurt my feelings.
    On the matter of O'Brien there's that pesky free agency option raising it's head. I'm sure Coach K2 will be is a bind for a year or two but ,to me, patience is time well spent. It does sounds like Boylen isn't doing Utah any favors. Articles like this makes it looks as though he is helping the former recruits in choosing new schools.

  • royalblue Alpine, UT
    April 19, 2011 1:35 p.m.

    bigutefan

    We're saving our biggest dig for September 17th, because bottom-line, words are cheap.

  • Dave S Holladay, UT
    April 19, 2011 1:41 p.m.

    @ Duckhunter

    Thanks for giving me a good laugh by posting that schedule for BYU next year. It's even funnier seeing it in writing!!!

  • Utes21 Salt Lake City, ut
    April 19, 2011 1:49 p.m.

    Oh man the duckdude is commenting on Ute articles that never happens! You would know who the trolls are wouldnt you? Where is your best friend sam?
    Glad tds fans can predict the Utes season for them, how about focusing your comments on your own teams articles? Oh wait thats impossible because you got Crimson Fever complex. Stop being a Ute hater.
    I agree with many of these comments why is the Dnews even talking about Boylen. Who cares, you obviously werent good enough. I hope we will see improvements next year but I think it will take a while for Utah to bounce back in basketball. I am glad we still have KWhitt, I am excited for the season to begin even though will have to wait a while. Go Utes!

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    April 19, 2011 1:53 p.m.

    @hailstorm

    Did I even address you or the O'Brien situation? You must be pretty sensitive to have your feelings hurt by someone that never even had you cross his thoughts. Or is it the fact you never even crossed my thoughts that hurt your little feelings?

    LOL

  • mussingaround Palo Alto, CA
    April 19, 2011 1:54 p.m.

    Dave S

    Laugh all you want, but that schedule, combined with an undefeated or 1-loss season, will have BYU playing in a BCS bowl next January.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    April 19, 2011 1:57 p.m.

    @dave s

    My guess is most of the laughing will be done by BYU fans on September 17th. Prepare yourself for an absolutely brutal and "soul crushing" defeat that day and plenty more all season long. You ute 'fans" are in for a looong and embarrassing season. I put the over/under on how many times utah's offense is shut out at 3 and the over/under on how many times they score less than 10 points at 7.

    Yes I'm sure hailstorm will save that in his "Duckhunter quotes" file so we will have record of it.

  • Veritas Aequitas Fruit Heights, UT
    April 19, 2011 2:06 p.m.

    TheHailstorm | 1:29 p.m. April 19, 2011
    South Weber, UT

    It does sounds like Boylen isn't doing Utah any favors. Articles like this makes it looks as though he is helping the former recruits in choosing new schools.
    ===
    The guy sounds angry, and I used to think he was a nice guy. It's obvious he feels he owns the players. Not a classy thing to do.

    =====
    Dave S | 1:41 p.m. April 19, 2011
    Holladay, UT
    @ Duckhunter

    Thanks for giving me a good laugh by posting that schedule for BYU next year. It's even funnier seeing it in writing!!!
    ===
    The schedule made you laugh? Why?

    If you really look at the schedule, for a first year independent, Holmoe really did a pretty decent job. There are a few teams on there that I really did not expect.

    But, feel free to clear it up. What did you expect?

    Hailstorm thought patience was a good thing for Coach K2... Let's exercise and see how things work out in the future.

    However, Dave, enlighten me... Do you think the U game will be tough for BYU, or one of the cupcakes?

  • Veritas Aequitas Fruit Heights, UT
    April 19, 2011 2:34 p.m.

    hedgehog | 10:14 a.m. April 19, 2011
    Ann Arbor, MI
    "Oliver Johnson was never offer a scholarship from Oregon or Utah "
    ===

    Hedge, Johnson committed right after he made a visit to ASU.

    What is your point?

    Like everyone else who does not commit to Utah, Utah did not want them?

    Do you feel better now?

  • Dave S Holladay, UT
    April 19, 2011 2:37 p.m.

    @ Duckhunter

    All I can say is talk is cheap!! Obviously I touched on a sore spot with you making fun of your powerful schedule. With predictions like you are making I hope you aren't a gambling man.

  • KamUte South Jordan, UT
    April 19, 2011 2:39 p.m.

    To Dave S.

    I was thinking the exact same thing. The schedule in front of me is even more laughable than I thought. There are 5 wins for sure and possible two more. This team will be lucky to win 7.

    Just think, BYU will be the third best independent football team out of four. Talk about exposure.

  • Bottom Line Draper, UT
    April 19, 2011 2:46 p.m.

    You know the schedule would be better if it didn't have the bottom tier of the Pac 10 on it.

  • TheHailstorm South Weber, UT
    April 19, 2011 2:48 p.m.

    Duhkunter...
    Yep I saved it. Should Utah win the game in September then I will post your crystal ball, know it all, and defaming remarks.
    Should BYU win then I'll give credit to the winning team.

  • mussingaround Palo Alto, CA
    April 19, 2011 2:49 p.m.

    Veritas Aequitas

    You should know hedgehog's MO by now. Every Utah recruit walks on water until the moment he commits to another team, then the kid can barely walk and chew gum at the same time and Utah never wanted him in the first place.

  • Real Bass Idaho Falls, ID
    April 19, 2011 2:51 p.m.

    Well as long as we beat u...the number 11 team in the pac!

  • Utes21 Salt Lake City, ut
    April 19, 2011 2:52 p.m.

    Fruit Heights I was wondering when you where going to show up! Duck needed a troll buddy for back up and more people to talk about tds on a Ute article. By the way here is the the only schedule that matters.
    Thu. 09/01/11 Montana St
    Sat. 09/10/11
    at USC
    Sat. 09/17/11
    at TDS
    Sat. 10/01/11
    Washington
    Sat. 10/08/11
    Arizona State
    Sat. 10/15/11
    at Pittsburgh
    Sat. 10/22/11
    at California
    Sat. 10/29/11
    Oregon State
    Sat. 11/05/11
    at Arizona
    Sat. 11/12/11
    UCLA
    Sat. 11/19/11
    at Washington State
    Sat. 11/26/11
    Colorado
    Man my choice between New Mexico St or USC. Watch the Utes play with the big boys on primetime, or watch the kittens play against the fearsome leftover WAC on kbyu after little house on the prairie. I think most people have made up there mind which schedule is better.

  • pocyUte Pocatello, ID
    April 19, 2011 2:53 p.m.

    Glenn Dickey is so out of touch with reality it hurts. Ask Boise St. if they regret playing on Thursday and Friday. It's all about exposure and getting your product out there.

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    April 19, 2011 2:58 p.m.

    "Johnson committed right after he made a visit to ASU.

    What is your point?"

    Buster,

    The article used the word "considered" as in Johnson "considered" Oregon and Utah....

    Johnson's "consideration" probably ended when he realized he didn't have and offer from either school.

    Not saying Utah and Oregon werent interested in Johnson, but clearly not enought of put forth an offer.

    BTW, Utah signed a JC OT for the class of 2012 yesterday.... might be worthwhile for the Dnews to report on something that acutally affects the Utes.

  • bballjunkie Cedar Hills, UT
    April 19, 2011 3:02 p.m.

    Two things. Taco salad, you are nuts if you thinks athletes pick the school first over a coach. No kid thinks I want to go to utah with out the coach being the biggest influence.

    Big Ute fan, won't help in utah's case they have years to try and get it together.

  • Veritas Aequitas Fruit Heights, UT
    April 19, 2011 3:03 p.m.

    KamUte | 2:39 p.m. April 19, 2011
    South Jordan, UT
    To Dave S.

    I was thinking the exact same thing. The schedule in front of me is even more laughable than I thought. There are 5 wins for sure and possible two more.
    ===

    Would it be OK if Utah and BYU just play out there schedules to see how the W's and L's work out on the field anyway?

    Geeze...

    Why don't you just head to Vegas now and make a living in a sportsbook?

    Kam, do you know anything at all about sports?

  • TheSportsAuthority Arlington, VA
    April 19, 2011 3:03 p.m.

    One nice thing about beating Utah early in the season is it will destroy the SOS talking points of jealous whiners like Dave S and KamUte.

    You haven't played anybody - gone

    You haven't beaten anybody - gone

    You've only played cupcakes - maybe true, but would they really dare use it

    Just think, the newly minted, mighty PAC 12 team losing their first PAC 12 game, and then following up that embarrassment by getting smoked by an "inferior" independent team.

    There is one team in the rivalry that may be lucky to win 7 games, but that team resides on a hill about 45 miles north of LES.

  • nottyou Riverton, UT
    April 19, 2011 3:06 p.m.

    The real funny posting will be when the Utes schedule is printed with the W-L record and point spread next to it...the Utes are going to take a pounding...mark it down.

  • Tom in CA Vallejo, CA
    April 19, 2011 3:07 p.m.

    @bigutefan 1:10, etal:

    All you wannabees keep thumping your chest about your BCS awesomeness, but in the end it is all about the "W".

    What good will it do utah to be sucking canal water with Colorado and Washington State the majority of the time in the Pac 10.1.1? September can't get here soon enough - we'll see then who is the real BCS team.

  • Veritas Aequitas Fruit Heights, UT
    April 19, 2011 3:11 p.m.

    Utes21 | 2:52 p.m. April 19, 2011
    Salt Lake City, Ut
    Fruit Heights I was wondering when you where going to show up! Duck needed a troll buddy for back up and more people to talk about tds on a Ute article.
    ===

    Go back and read my posts.

    First one started Boylen, second about the Ute recruit that went to ASU.

    If you have an issue about me responding to DaveS or KamUte about what they posted on a Ute story, You should bring that up with DaveS or KamUte, or even yourself, bro.

    If Utes21 doesn't want BYU mentioned on a Ute article, why does Utes21, and fans bring up the issue.

    But really, go read my posts, then whine some more.

  • Utes21 Salt Lake City, ut
    April 19, 2011 3:22 p.m.

    Oh man the tds trolls have now come in full force now, they will make sure to tell you they dont have a Ute inferiority complex. They will say the Utes will be cellar dwellars because they all can tell the future. Look how they predicted their Quest for Perfection season! Ute fans everywhere should despair and call the season already over! The trolls have spoken and we should listen. You all have as much credibility as Chris B, please one of you say mark it down!

  • SportsCenter Olympus Cove, Utah
    April 19, 2011 3:34 p.m.

    Utes21

    While you're enjoying your one big game of the season that doesn't involve BYU, that regionally televised game at USC, BYU fans will be enjoying ESPN nationally televised games at Ole' Miss and Texas, a primetime ESPN nationally televised in the Jerry Dome vs TCU, plus other nationally televised primetime games with UCF and Utah State.

    Thanks to BYU, however, you'll also get to play on ESPN when you visit LES.

    btw, enjoy Little House on the Praire on KBYU, but BYU's football games will be broadcast on ESPN/BYUtv.

    You see, like Utah with KUED, BYU also has a mostly student run local educational television station. Unlike Utah, however, BYU also has a state of the art HD television station that's already available on the basic tier of cable stations in 60 million homes nationwide, and on additional systems worldwide.

    BYU's WAC games may be fluff, but at least the Cougars aren't playing a Big Sky team.

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    April 19, 2011 3:49 p.m.

    For the Utes taking shots at the Cougs schedule, tell me what three teams you play that will be better than TCU, Texas, and UCF collectively?

    Oh sure, Montana St may be better than Idaho; but what matters is the top of the schedule not the bottom because I'm pretty sure that both teams will take care of Montana St and Idaho without a problem.

    Taking it one step further, the strength of schedule doesn't really even matter. The only thing that truly matters in this rivalry is what happens on September 17. And just like you were Jimmered during the basketball season, you're going to get Jaked on September 17.

    I do find it ironic that O'Brien is looking at a lowly WCC team. Players don't care about the reputation of the conference, they care about the quality of the program at the university.

  • Snack PAC Olympus Cove, Utah
    April 19, 2011 3:52 p.m.

    Utes21

    The only inferiority complexes I've seen are Utah fans beating the chests for the last 10 months about their PAC 10.2 invite. I don't recall any other fans acting that way.

    Half the football teams in the Big East came over from Conference USA long before Utah was invited to the PAC.

    TCU fans have been silent about their invite to the Big East.

    It's only Utah fans who have been giddy with excitement because they finally got invited to sit at the big kids table, not because of anything special that the Utes did, but simply because there were a couple of empty chairs at the table.

    Our first Quest for Perfection ended in our first national championship.

    Our second Quest for Perfection is still ongoing, but, as Jake Heaps said, BYU sets their goal a little higher than simply playing in a BCS game.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    April 19, 2011 3:55 p.m.

    I don't see any more than four ute wins this coming year. Lots of luck fellas.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    April 19, 2011 4:11 p.m.

    @hailstorm

    "defaming remarks" bwaaahaaaahaaaaaa........

    It seems you take this all very personally, as if you actually have anything to do with the program or the wins and losses other than you simply chose to root for a team. LOL

    It is more than a little bit pathetic that you have created a "Duckhunter" file but at the same time I wear it as a badge of honor. Who is obsessed with whom?

    LOL

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    April 19, 2011 4:21 p.m.

    Pac-10.1.1beta is hilarious! I like it and will now drop my upgraded PAC-10.2 back to the more stable Pac-10.1.1beta version!

    Thanks for the chuckle Illusionist!

  • Veritas Aequitas Fruit Heights, UT
    April 19, 2011 4:38 p.m.

    Hedge...

    Are you arguing the definition of the word "considered"?

    Lame.

    Try this article out of AZCENTRAL.
    ===

    "I know schools are going to be after me, but ... the fact that I really like the facilities, I really like the campus and all the support they give to the players, this just seemed like the right choice. I had never been to Arizona before, and I didn't know ASU was that nice. I've been to UCLA and USC, and I liked it better than those schools."

    --"Oregon State and Utah also were recruiting Johnson"--, who began his collegiate career at Div. II Missouri Western University. He redshirted his first season, but left soon thereafter. "It just didn't really work out there," Johnson said, "And I wanted to have a chance to play at a higher level."
    ===

    Oregon State and Utah were also "recruiting" Johnson.

    Define recruiting...

    Once again, if they don't choose Utah, Utah doesn't want them???

    Then WHY does Utah recruit them???????
    ===
    Bottom line... ASU? Is ASU the cream of the PAC? If Utah can't even get the guy to come and look at the U how will they compete in the PAC?

  • ouisc Farmington, UT
    April 19, 2011 4:53 p.m.

    Any Utah basketball player that wants to leave the University should just go. They are players that are "not in" and not willing to do the dirty work to help turn the Ute basketball program around. They are not mature enough to realize Boylen made personal promises to them that Boylen simply couldn't keep. They are not mature enough to realize Boylen is actually tampering with the University of Utah. Boylen did a poor job representing the University of Utah, and I'm becoming more satisfied to see him gone.

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    April 19, 2011 4:57 p.m.

    Fruity,

    Dude, focus. Utah "recruits" many players but only offers scholarships to a select few.

    BYU fans have a difficult time understanding this concept. When the Y picks up some drifter with no other offers you often hear the kewg fans banging the drum that the recruit had interest from several BCS programs......so what.

    Without an offer it's a one way street.

  • Realistic Goggles Alpine, UT
    April 19, 2011 5:04 p.m.

    Let's forget all the trash talking about football schedules of the two local schools and the like. That has nothing to do with the article in question.

    I have always liked Boylen, thought of him as a classy person, etc. However, he should really zip it when it comes to his former players. The players that he coached are committed to the University of Utah. He is no longer their coach. If they decide to go elsewhere, it should be without any input or encouragement from him. Maybe I am reading too much into it, but I hope he is not helping former players find other schools to attend. That strikes me as out of bounds.

  • TheHailstorm South Weber, UT
    April 19, 2011 5:10 p.m.

    Duhkunter.. Why are you the only one laughing ?
    I save the articles for statements made as if you already know the outcome. For example.... * Prepare yourself for an absolutely brutal and "soul crushing" defeat that day and plenty more all season long. You ute 'fans" are in for a looong and embarrassing season. I put the over/under on how many times utah's offense is shut out at 3 and the over/under on how many times they score less than 10 points at 7."
    I do this not out obsession, but rather sheer meanness so that you can eat your words. I don't care for a windbags nor a know it all.
    Good sports observations and responses make for good reading , but some of your comments are of the age where you still are fighting for the only shovel in the sandbox.
    I just have to read around the spelling and grammatical errors.
    AS far as the scoring goes ? You forgot to factor in the defense.
    Utah also brings to the table a COY and 3 time assistant Coach of the Year. That's an intangible that even your crystal balls can't conjure up.

  • Veritas Aequitas Fruit Heights, UT
    April 19, 2011 5:53 p.m.

    hedgehog | 4:57 p.m.
    Ann Arbor, MI
    Fruity,

    Dude, focus. Utah "recruits" many players but only offers scholarships to a select few.

    ===

    Dude, serious, that is what you bring. You live in Ann Arbor and talk smack about Fruit Heights? Dude, do you even know where I live....

    Regardless, sure the Utes recruit many, and offer schollies to the few that will accept, and then lose those. The drifters end up at at BYU, have schollies offered at the U, and pick the Y. This guy, Johnson, would have a full ride at the U and picked ASU. If not picked the U, and if BYU wanted him, would have chosen BYU. Why is that? Not the honor code, but would have wanted to win.

    "Dude, Focus"... No one wants a schollie at the U, for football or basketball...

    Why???

    You tell me why the U recruits players and they choose somewhere else.

    Ann Arbor, would you choose the U????

    Give a reason, then show your ability to roll into a tight ball, causing all of the spines to point outwards.

    In the meantime, dog on Fruit Heights, without knowing. I choose fruit Heights (Where Andrew Richs Dad lives).

  • Rock Of The Marne Phoenix, AZ
    April 19, 2011 6:10 p.m.

    It wouldnt be Spring in Utah (or Summer, Fall or Winter) without BCS wanna be BYU fans trolling all over the boards looking for anything negative written about the U of U so they can pounce like the little kittens they are. For a 7-6 team they sure do have a lot of confidence which defies logic as even in those 7 wins they didnt beat anyone of particular note. Seems they are just going off the boastings of their big headed (in ego way) QB who has yet to do anything more than beat a hapless UTEP team. Utah was at its absolute worst when the two teams played last year with Wynn reeling from an injury and despite Heaps' supposed great play he still could not get his team a win against their hated rival. I too can't wait until Sept. when the teams meet again as if Utah can still beat BYU when they are playing at their worst (i.e. last year) think what they'll be able to do with a healthy Wynn (reference Iowa State game last year).

  • Taco Salad Cottonwood Heights, UT
    April 19, 2011 6:13 p.m.

    bballjunkie, true players may pick the a school based on the coach they would play for but the fact of the matter is that when they sign that letter of intent they are are saying they are going to play for the institution, not the coach. I don't blame the college kids for not grasping this, even though it is clearly stated in the national letter of intent, no I hold accountable the bitter old coach who knows better. Sure they may have decided to come here because of the coach but he is not the one they committed to and he was not the one paying for their scholarship. Jim needs to grow up and put the best interest of the players first and not his own grudge. Good luck finding a new school to hire you with that kind of behavior.

    On a related note maybe is Boylen would have done a better job recruiting players to the University and not to him then he would have had more than just a few players that were D1 quality.

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    April 19, 2011 6:48 p.m.

    @Pebbles

    Now I'm LOL

    "7 wins they didnt beat anyone of particular note." And the Utes did?

    Let's see in your winning season of 10-3 who did you beat of particular note? I think it's hilarious that the 10-3 season is not remembered for the any wins... it's those classic losses of 7-47, 3-28, 3-26 on national tv! Who can forget? LOL

    On the other hand BYU's season was one of redemption... and winning it's bowl game. You've got some real issues when a winning season of 10-3 just makes you so 'bitter and jealous' of BYU and Jake Heaps and to bring it up on a BB story. Momentum and relevance Pebbles, that's what the Cougars got and you're jealous of it.

    Funny how a story about another BB player possibly leaving ends up in a discussion on football.

    LOL!

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    April 19, 2011 7:05 p.m.

    "In the meantime, dog on Fruit Heights, without knowing. I choose fruit Heights (Where Andrew Richs Dad lives)."

    fruits.

    Really fruits. Really. You chose to live in da heights because Andrew Rich's dad lives there? hmmm. I hope the Rich family has a good secruity system.

  • Jealous U Alpine, UT
    April 19, 2011 7:24 p.m.

    Seriously, a hedgehog who lives under a bubble of delusion in the frozen tundra of Michigan is talking smack about where another blogger lives.

    Laughable.

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    April 19, 2011 7:46 p.m.

    "I do this not out obsession, but rather sheer meanness so that you can eat your words."

    Hailstoned... One of the funniest lines I've seen in a long time. Kind of reminds me of when President Nixon said, "I'm not a crook."

    Go get a dictionary and look up the definition for obsession. We all enjoy it following our teams and posting on these boards. What makes you so special to think you're above any of this! LOL!

  • Jordan Lynchburg, VA
    April 19, 2011 10:04 p.m.

    People. Grow up. It's a game. These are kids and young adults. They act more mature than you. Please.

  • Rock Of The Marne Phoenix, AZ
    April 19, 2011 10:43 p.m.

    Samantha g from Springville, you are too funny, who is trolling who's stories; this is a story about the U of U and you and the rest of you little brother kitten trolls are all over this board with your baseless predictions of woe for your big brother up north. You and Ducky are too funny with your overwhelming obsession with all things U of U, it says a lot about you. Your funniest line is that I am jealous of BYU's "momentum." Pretty sad if all your team has going for it is supposed "momentum" vice real accomplishments. Too bad imaginary momentum doesnt get your team invited to a real conference.

  • MESOUTE Karchaj, A.V.
    April 20, 2011 11:26 a.m.

    In a petty attempt to outdo each other the posters on this topic are missing the point. The point is that Jim Boylen is putting himself in danger of having his buyout revoked as it becomes more and more obvious that he is steering these kids away from the Utes and into other avenues. Furthermore, Boylen, although contacted by Easter Michigan to interview as head coach, rejected the interview. In my opinion, at least presently, Boylen does not seem to be honoring the good faith employment clause in his contract that states he shall use good faith to obtain employment. He seems content to collect 2 million dollars from the Utes while sabotaging the program even more than he already did with his inept coaching ability. This is frustrating as a fan to observe.

  • CougarBlue Heber City, UT
    April 20, 2011 1:48 p.m.

    Will there be any players left on the team by the time the season starts?

  • CougarBlue Heber City, UT
    April 20, 2011 1:52 p.m.

    Dear Hedgehog just go to BYU Cougars website and you can see the football schedule for next year. It really is not that difficult. Try it.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    April 20, 2011 4:03 p.m.

    @mesoute

    I'm not so sure simply giving sought after councel to kids he has a mentor type relationship with is as nefarious as you try to make it sound. I can definately understand how it would irritate you, and other ute fans, as you only care about the school itself and simply want wins for your own personal satisfaction.

    Remember the university gave Boylen the contract he has, they then fired him, he is entitled to his money and he is under no obligation to pursue jobs he has no interest in simply because it would benefit the school that fired him.

    Once again your frustration and irritation is understandable but of course you are only looking at it from the perspective of what you want and what you think is in the best interest of you. You desire for the university of utah to have a winning basketball program and don't care one bit if boylen, or these players, want other things for themselves.

    I'm not saying either side is right or wrong, but understand just because it is what you want doesn't mean that it is the right thing for them.

  • Utes21 Salt Lake City, ut
    April 20, 2011 4:11 p.m.

    SportsCenter

    Um you actually are your playing Idaho St? You dont even know your own teams schedule? Most people dont bother watching that channel unless they are LDS or I guess now if they like byu football. Good luck to byu in there national televised games, the reason for those are because of the teams their playing not byu its self.

    Snack PAC
    You are the same guy just a different username. All I am saying is stop with the trolling thats all. We all know why byu wasnt invited and it wasnt because they didnt have good athletic teams. Religion was the biggest factor, it would have been cool to have both teams invited to represent our state but that wasnt the case. Lets face it Utah needs byu and byu needs Utah. The rivarly is a good thing! I just get tired of post after post from duckhunter and on your sie chris b or who ever.

  • TheHailstorm South Weber, UT
    April 20, 2011 6:02 p.m.

    Thank You Ute21
    One overlooked reason that the University of Utah was asked to join the PAC 12 is because of the direction and emphasis of research. AS was mentioned by the PAC commissioner the universities would benefit by sharing of knowledge among the Universities.
    I too think that Duhkunter should save his wind for his little duck call. Please be kind though, he has spent a lot of time in a blind.

  • BYUalum South Jordan, UT
    April 20, 2011 6:10 p.m.

    I never even thought of reading a Ute article until they were invited into the PAC 10 (now 12), but the title of the article intrigued me.

    I thought this move was because they were all high and mighty; it turns out that their basketball program is left high and dry. Nobody any good wants to stick around and take a chance on another crummy season with a new coach.

    BYU, Coach Dave Rose, and the WCC are looking better all the time. Loyalty, got to love it!

  • mussingaround Palo Alto, CA
    April 20, 2011 6:41 p.m.

    "One overlooked reason that the University of Utah was asked to join the PAC 12 is because of the direction and emphasis of research."

    Go Runnin' Reseachers! They'll be the 2nd best Utah team in PAC 10.1.1beta, right behind the Red Rocks.