Moutainman 4/13/11 ""As a returned missionary from Tiawan, he
speaks Mandarin Chinese. Maybe one of the most difficult languages in the world,
which proves he is intelligent! Therefore he will fit in very well at
BYU!"Ouch, that's gotta sting.
How can this be? Losing a recruit to Hawaii after your best season in 30
lol yes hedgehog, that does sting. But not nearly as bad as being a Runnin' Ute
fan must sting.Who transferred this week? Ouch.
I know the answer - WCC.
Give it a rest, people. Maybe the kid just wanted to go where the winters
aren't so cold!!
hedge;Doesn't sting nearly as bad as having your top three players leave
the team and having an average of 3-4 players leave every year. BYU
will be fine without another 6'6" skinny guy. They are loaded at center
even with Anderson leaving, They are loaded at the 4, they have Rogers, Abouo at
the 3 and they have 4-5 guards on next years team. How is your team
doing on their recruiting?
Good luck to him. At lest he didn't sign and then leave after he got to know the
program, as in the utes ongoing debacle.
His Mom is from Hawaii, he has family there.You're actually making
causation arguments and stating it's because of the WCC?He's going
to Hawaii, which will now be playing in the Big West, try again.BYU
lost this recruit, not unusual. At least their best players didn't leave the
team. Utah.Go Wazzu-Utes
gotta love these ute trolls always trying to poke holes in the Mighty Cougar
basketball program. Ouch - it stings.
Kiboo, you're saying going to the WAC is better than the WCC? The WAC has USU,
who can't win in the postseason ever, and the WCC can get a few teams in the
dance depending on the year and has a nice contract with ESPN. He went to
Hawai'i for Hawai'i probably, not for the WeAC.
Let's see.....a recruit is offered to play WCC or WAC......hmmmm I'd go with the
WAC!!!Another sign of being kicked to the curb by the football
You can't lose something you never had. On the other hand if you
want a perfect example of losing 'something' just look to the next program
north... bazinga!'Soul crushing' and 'deliciously ironic' at the
same time, eh Utesy trolls?
This will be called the "WCC effect" going forward.First
Rose then Anderson and now this.Even a once in 30 year run and a POY
could't stop the dominos from falling.Big question; what's next?
What's next hedgehog? I'll tell you....how about another u player leaving and
many HS/JC players not even considering going to the u. Many at least consider
BYU along with many big and small time schools. The u can't even say that this
year or for the coming several years.
Hedgehog...dude has relatives in Hawaii, they are playing in China which was
another factor in deciding on Hawaii. Oh yeah... unlike BYU, at Hawaii, he can
play right away.
I'm a Cougar fan, and even I can't blame a 20-year-old kid for taking the
opportunity to spend four years in paradise on someone else's dime. It's always
been a mystery to me why Hawaii can't pull in better talent with all they have
HedgieYep the dominos are falling. He didn't come to the Y and
Anderson left.The Y is just loosing everything! Gosh, what will we
do? It's Shawn Bradley all over again!Please, Please! Tell us what's
next. I so look forward to insight and wisdom.
Maybe there really is a crack in the armor. And I was only kidding when I said
that about Anderson leaving. His reason was perfectly understandable, but this
doesn't make sense.
Wedgehog,This season, Brereton has received more than 22 scholarship
offers, and has taken official recruiting trips to BYU, Hawaii and Tulane. The
University of Utah and Santa Clara have offered official visits as well.This must hurt, he didn't even give the U a visit.
There is a missionary down here in Pearland who played for Stanford that BYU
needs to look at. Stanford pulled his scholarship when he went on a mission.
The sky is falling, the sky is falling...Well, at least there's the
kid from UCLA that's coming over, and the kid from south carolina. Oh well,
could be worse...could be the U.
@ hedgehogHow are utes doing in basketball? LOL! Looks like all the
rats are jumping off a sinking ship there still might be enough time for a
hedgehog to find his way off too. LOL
Wow, I thought this article was about BYU basketball. From what I can see, most
of the posts are about the University of Utah and are written by BYU fans. A
bit obsessed are we?
We Ute fans are just having a little fun, since the BYU fans have been so brutal
about our basketball team.
And BYU fans are having a little fun back. Considering the brutal verbal
assaults on our football team from last year and the continuous trolling about
Jimmer and our very successful basketball team and the constant assualts on our
coaches etc. etc. Wouldn't it be nice if the smack was held until the rivalry
game was played, then there was a few days of friendly smack and it was over
until next year? Just like Pleasantville
Mormon UteIn truth, the Utah basketball team itself has been
brutal.If things don't pick up soon, Dr. Hill may have to start
renting out the HC for conventions just to make a buck when the Red Rocks aren't
I love Hawaii, too! But not the u!
@Hedgie"First Rose then Anderson and now this." So are you saying that signing Dave Rose to extension was a bad thing? I
think the program will survive with this recruit going to Hawaii and Anderson
moving on. You do realize that he didn't even give your mighty Utes the time of
day with their offer.
hedgehog"Ouch, that's gotta sting." ...when a
sought-after recruit won't give the Utes the time of day.So much for
the mighty PAC 12 Utes having flocks of recruits beating down their door.
What a crock,Ute fans get all bent out of shape because BYU fans a
ripping on them?Ute fans: Why are you even on this article? Why do
you post here? What draws you to BYU articles like a moth to a flame? It's like
you can't stay away. Then you get your tighties all bunched up because people
knock your school.I am completely apathetic about the Utes (Although
I cheer for them when they are on the big stage), but I have never read a single
article about them, nor have a I ever posted on their articles. I don't care. I
don't care where they go now or what they do, ever!I do care
however, when they come to an article about BYU and talk smack. I won't put up
Who could blame the dude for wanting to go to Hawaii if he has relatives there.
The winters are brutal back here in Nebraska and maybe he wants to go where it
is warmer. If I had the chance Id probably do the same thing.
You're wrong, you're wrong, you're wrong... ALL of you UTAH fans are wrong as to
why Hauns chose Hawaii over BYU (and Utah NEVER had a chance).I told
you in the previous article blog that Hauns has family in Hawaii--that's where
his mother is from. What I did not mention is that the coaching staff is
primarily LDS, which is a huge draw, and he LOVES the culture there. Hawaii also
has it's obvious draws, but Hauns is not looking for a Pro Basketball career, he
wants an opportunity to start, as well receive an excellent education--and he
can get all of that at Hawaii too.BYU would certainly have
benefitted from Hauns' presence, but I'm confident he made the right choice for
him. Only time will tell--we support you 100% Hauns!
Truthbtold:Right on, Gib Arnold is the head coach at Hawaii, return
missionary, played for Dave at Dixie College, attended Pine View High in St.
George. Perhaps this young man chose the life style, personnel and of course
family and Hawaii. How many of you would not choose Hawaii to live in for the
next two years. He is a sophomore, I understand, spent two years at the JC and
two years left.I wish him well and know that he will be happy and be
able to play and contribute right away. Look at the program in Hawaii, Gib said
that he needed to get some experience to go with his young team. He is a good
man and I am sure knew how to recruit this player.The Y will be fine
in basketball as will my aggies, just have to do what the Y did and get through
that first round. Some have to worry about even making it to the dance. Who?
Plus, he can surf!
Wow, imagine that, a quality player declined the team in Provo despite its run
in the NCAA tourney. I wonder why...maybe because he didn't want to play in the
high-school gyms of the WCC, among several other reasons.It looks
like Mr. Robinson was right after all. Basketball in the WCC is now an
I Still Can't Say It It looks like you're grasping at straws. Utah's conference affiliation was so completely meaningless to a quality
player that he didn't even bother wasting his time visiting U.
@bug off: who's the player down here? Would like to know so I can call Utah
He went to Hawaii to be close to his family so thats understandable. What I dont
understand though is these ute trolls who come on here and crow about BYU not
getting a recruit. Earth to ute fans he was also on utah's radar and he didnt
give them the time of day LOL! Also, lets not forget how many players have left
the utah program over the last two years. BYU still has plenty of recruits and
talent coming in so losing one isnt going to hurt them a great deal.
Utes,You guys are all asking sarcastically how could this kid pass up on
the cougars while knowing that this same kid passed up on the utes and the pac
12. Many cougar fans have already given reasonable answears as to why (family
lives in hawaii, wants to start, heck, its hawaii) but when a cougar fan ask how
this kid could pass up on the utes and the pac 12 i dont hear anything. I think
this says a lot about our different fan bases. Cougar fans are knowledgable and
not scared of a debate but ute fans, well, they cant debate because they know
they are wrong and have no facts to stand on. I know one of you is going to
say: FACT pac 12 > wcc. But then why did this guy pass up on the pac 12 to
play in whatever conference hawaii will be in next year? Answear the same
question that cougar fans are not scared of answearing instead of ignoring the
question and hiding.
Anne,I would like for you to look at the first 2 comments. Both by ute
fans obsessed with byu. If this were a ute board and cougar fans got on and said
silly comments that dont make any sense would you not comment about byu? I know
you would because you are on a byu board commenting on how obsessed we are with
utah even though the comments are directed at the utes that already commented.
You would have had a valid point if those ute comments were not there and byu
was just bashing utah unprovoked but that is not the case. Try to be more
unbiased next time.
Never thought I'd see the day when an LDS RM chose Hawaii over BYU. Hawaii, a
WAC team heading to the Big West for basketball. BYU, the flagship school of the
Why doesn't he just go to BYU-Hawaii?
There's another major, very simple reason why Rose lost this recruit to Hawaii,
in addition to the other reasons already mentioned. Rose only made the offer
very recently, incredibly late in the recruiting process (only made possible
because of Anderson's decision to hang them up). I'm sure Hawaii and the other
schools that offered have been pouring out their love to the young man for
months now, and by doing so had the inside track. Also, he had to know that his
chances of getting significant playing time at BYU would be minimal, with all of
the good wing talent already on the roster or incoming (although I'm sure Rose
thought he would be able to contribute). Sounds like the young man made a wise,
carefully thought out decision, and I wish him very well. And LOL at anyone
seriously claiming that playing 8 away games at smaller WCC gyms would somehow
be a turn-off to someone that ended up signing with a WAC/Big West team (Hawaii
moving to Big West in everything but football in 2012).
It would be similar BIG news if the Utes kept a player.
Good point, Everest. With Ken Wagner and the international players at BYU-H, it
would be a good fit.On my other comment: is this kid from Northern
Colorado or from Western (whatever) in Nebraska. The story and the picture don't
line up and it's very confusing.Go BYU and Hawaii. Wish I had gone
to Hawai'i for four years of sun and surf and a good education.
As neither Ute fan or a BYU fan but a flatlander we do thank the Utes for their
transfer to come back here to the plains to play some basketball and I do think
the LDS RM chose to play in arenas that hold more than 3-6000 fans where he
would have to play half his games if he signed with the Y.
As long as we don't lose recruits to U, I'm good.
hedgehog, kiboo and other trolls don't realize that their team wanted this guy,
too. Apparently the propect of playing in the conference-of-champions for the
league's last place team was enough to convince him that there was no need to
even visit the hill. Unless I was an NBA prospect, I might pick living and
playing in Hawaii over Provo, too.
Shouldn't fans of teams that have 15,000 seat facilities, actually show up to
watch their own team play before mocking BYU for playing in front of 4-8000 seat
gyms?What good is having 13,000 fans dressed up as empty seats every
game EXCEPT when it's against BYU? Ironically, the 3-5,000 fans at the smaller
arenas are twice as loud as the U when at capacity...just sayin.I
understand the U8-U12 Jr. Jazz season-end tourney will be using the HC since the
bldg will be vacant soon anyway.
Lets see. BYU and Cold Weather, and the Honor Code vs UH a chance to play now,
and the chance to lead a normal Adult life. No Brainer unless you are really
after one of the finest educations in the world, or are Married and the Deal
Includes Married Housing.BYU is a real School and you really have to
Hauns played his HS ball in Memphis. My good friend knows the family from his
days in Tennessee and the family told him before Hauns' visit to BYU that he was
already likely to sign with Hawaii. BYU was very late into the game getting a
visit at the last minute.Hauns would be competing with Abouo and
Rogers at BYU for playing time. He has family in Hawaii, he'll see immediate
playing time there, and he loves the culture.Good luck to him and
hope his college experience is everything he hopes it will be.
To: Jet Chang 6'4" Point GuardBYU HawaiiAnytime you
want to initiate that request for release...BYU has a Unique opening for your
skills with lots of potential to better market those critical abilities that we
do generously appreciate and recognize. We have newly aquired hardware modeled
just perfectly for someone of your caliber and have a continuing program of
success and a great supervisory staff. The window is open. Looking forward to
having you on the team.Cosmo CougarOk... back to
reality.....I'm ready for some Football!!!
Whatever...yada yada...sounds like alittle sour grapes for 4 individuals that
don't understand what the word commitment means...when you sign a contract, you
live up to it. If can't live up to your commitment, then don't waste everyone's
time, and your own embarrasement. Yes, it is a shame that your reputation gets
placed in the limelight...that what you get as a college football celebrity...