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  • Cougar Blue N. Las Vegas, NV
    April 1, 2011 1:32 p.m.

    Of interest in breaking basketball news of the last hour, Oklahoma went back to UNLV coach Kruger for the third time and offered him a 7 year contract for 16 million $$.....and Kruger has taken it. Persistence has paid off for Oklahoma. UNLV is very interessted in Coach Rice at BYU.

  • Hawkeye79 Iowa City, IA
    April 1, 2011 2:01 p.m.

    The big question is why a coach in a so-called "lowly conference" would turn down the opportunity to coach a school like Utah in a so-called "power conference."

    What is causing the coaching position at Utah to be so tough to sell?

  • Cougs4Life Gilbert, AZ
    April 1, 2011 2:08 p.m.

    Contrary to what the article states, the issue isn't that Boylen is a hard act to follow...the issue is that no one sees any upside in this program in a supposed "big-time" conference. The grease fire continues...

  • Magna Ute Fan Magna, UT
    April 1, 2011 2:17 p.m.

    Tommy Connor.

  • Mormon Ute Kaysville, UT
    April 1, 2011 2:41 p.m.

    Chris Hill is not panicking, so neither am I. Any word on a third meeting between Hill and Rose? I think Rose is waiting to see if BYU's offer comes close to the Utes'.

  • TJ Eagle Mountain, UT
    April 1, 2011 2:48 p.m.

    Regarding the Norm Chow link. I do believe that Norm Chow was one of the best innovators in College football and that he is a big reason for the BYU success in the 80's and 90's. I don't think he is in the top tier of OC's anymore. There are many schools who run the WC offense now. Norm is just another salesman peddling the same product. Like all the others, he will succeed if he has the right personnel to run that type of offense. Wynn probably won't be the best fit. I am betting on another starter by September.
    I do wish him the best though and hope Utah is successful in the PAC.

  • Al Bundy murray, ut
    April 1, 2011 3:06 p.m.

    Cougs

    We might not be having much luck in the coach hunt? At least we didn't sell our basketball team down the river for our football team. WCC come on.

  • Moderate Salt Lake City, UT
    April 1, 2011 3:56 p.m.

    RE: Hawkeye 79
    It seems like a tough sell because A) there are a number of open coaching positions and B) the coaching pool isn't that deep. Many are leveraging inquiries into upping their existing contracts.

    RE: TJ
    Wynn wasn't the right fit for the spread. He should do better in Norm's West Coast package. The Utes tweaked the spread after Urban Meyer left and it was never quite the same.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    April 1, 2011 4:42 p.m.

    It was a weak move firing Jim Boylen. Should have given him another year or two.

  • MenaceToSociety Draper, UT
    April 1, 2011 4:46 p.m.

    From the ESPN blog:

    "Chow, by any measure one of the best offensive minds in the history of college football"

    Yet for some reason Cougar fans have been saying he's an idiot for 2 decades. Bronco was right: The amount of criticism matches the level of education. I like the Cougar fan criticsm of Chow that all he does is run the ball. What? That must come from some alternate reality that I am not familiar with.

  • Swoop Salt Lake City, UT
    April 1, 2011 4:53 p.m.

    Al Bundy

    "At least we didn't sell our basketball team down the river for our football team."

    What basketball team?

    BYU will be dancing again next year.

    Where will U be?

  • One Nil to the Arsenal! Gilbert, AZ
    April 1, 2011 4:53 p.m.

    Please don't get excited about Dave Rose.....Look what Giaco did with Bogut. It's easy to win 25 games in a weak conference with the Player of the year. Lets see what Rose does next year. I thought Billy out coached him in the tournament. Go back and look at tape. Rose was just happy to be there. He looked like a kid who just go off the plane from his mission....

    The Ute's are going to have to take a chance on somebody young & relatively unknown. I like Tommy Connor myself. I agree with Al Bundy. It's no secret that Rose was not happy about being thrown under the rug so the football team could go to the WAC...err I mean pseudo independent. But I don't see him leaving, and I really don't think he would fit in well at Utah.

  • blauch Salt Lake City, UT
    April 1, 2011 5:17 p.m.

    Rose Rumors need to stop. He has 3 more year on his current deal and they are negotiating a raise and a longer deal.

    He already turned down Oklahoma, NC state and Utah. He is coming back to BYU

    As far as the following Statement:
    It's no secret that Rose was not happy about being thrown under the rug or
    At least we didn't sell our basketball team down the river for our football team. WCC come on.

    2 out of the final 4 teams are in Small conference. Utah went to the NCAA finals in a small WAC conference. UNLV won a National Championship in a small conferece. Butler, St Marys, Gonzaga, VCU, Old Dominion, BYU, San Diego State, Western Kentucky, Davidson, Richmond all have made sweet 16 games in the last 3 years.

    It does not matter what conference you are in Basketball
    There is a playoff.

  • Where's Stockton ??? Bowling Green, OH
    April 1, 2011 5:39 p.m.

    @Hawkeye79
    I'm sure Bennet didn't want to be the next UTE coaching Sacrificial Lamb and certainly he's not out to become a martyr either. Utah Basketball is and open invitation to getting creamed... this up and coming season. The can of worms is almost open. It won't take long to realize that Utah has been given a wakeup call that they were'nt at all expecting. That's why the vacancy shingle for a new Head Coach is going to be hanging outside the door for a while.

  • Where's Stockton ??? Bowling Green, OH
    April 1, 2011 5:54 p.m.

    @Al Bundy
    Well gee's Al. I don't think that line of thought is too hard to figure out...First off you don't have a basketball program to sell... so you tossed it to the sharks. Face it... You're BB team will be nothing more than shark bait in the PAC... Who wants to coach a program with no future. And Watch the WCC grow just like the WAC did post AZ & AZ State and the MWC did with BYU, Utah, and New Mexico and UNLV. Gonzaga and ST Mary's are pretty near the same level of play every year.

  • The Disillusionist Alexandria, VA
    April 1, 2011 5:58 p.m.

    The Rose rumors need to stop ... but the Roger Reid rumors need to start! I heard that he met with Chris Hill to discuss succeeding Boylen!!

  • Jealous U Alpine, UT
    April 1, 2011 6:16 p.m.

    Nil and Bundy

    Spin away, but bottom line is no experienced coach wants to risk their coaching career trying to salvage that trainwreck on the hill. Rose and Kruger were both offered $1.7 million per year to coach at Oklahoma and both turned down the Sooners. Lon finally accepted when the Sooners upped the offer to $2.2 million. Rose turned down a $1.5 million from the U, so obviously, trading the MWC and the MTN for the WCC and ESPN/BYUtv isn't anywhere near the concern for Rose that desperate Utah fans were hoping it would be.

  • redfeather Palo Alto, CA
    April 1, 2011 6:37 p.m.

    Not sure who's more desperate here.

    Nil, for claiming Dave Rose is a mediocre coach.

    or

    Chris Hill, for offereing to pay a "mediocre" coach $1.5 million.

    What does it say about the PAC 12 Utes' basketball program when three coaches from the MWC/WCC have already turned down the job?

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    April 1, 2011 7:10 p.m.

    I just love this quote as posted by one of the more prolific ute trolls just a couple of weeks ago.

    "One thing is for sure in the end dr. chirs hill will get whoever he wants."

    LOL

    Yep that was definately not well thought out.

  • NeilT Clearfield, UT
    April 1, 2011 8:15 p.m.

    Utah B-Ball is not in shambles. Come on. How long has Fisher been at SDSU and this year was the first NCAA win in school history. How long ago was BYU 1 and nothing. Come on Dr. Hill. Have you ever heard the story of Acres of Diamonds. The treasure is right here in our own backyard. Jeff Judkins, Morrill from USU, both are right here and would have a great advantage recruiting in state talent. What about the Montana coach. Sorry I can't spell his last name.

  • Bottom Line Draper, UT
    April 1, 2011 8:43 p.m.

    Wait a second here...we are in the Pac-10 now. I was told recruits and coaches would be lined up outside the door. Have I been duped?

  • SeattleUhasabballteam? Seattle, Wa
    April 1, 2011 9:13 p.m.

    For all the smack about the WCC, U have lost to every WCC team you played this year and have been turned down by 2 WCC coaches.

  • fresnogirl Fresno, CA
    April 1, 2011 9:52 p.m.

    NeilT

    San Diego State is a great example. In his first 6 years there, Coach Fisher did not have an impressive record, then the next year his team had a winning record and did each year after. This is his 12th year coaching that team. I'm thinking the SDSU fans are pretty happy about now that they didn't call for his job after just a few seasons. Sometimes I wonder if schools like Fresno State and U of U would be better served just waiting out the contract. I admit I don't have a crystal ball, so I can't say if Boylen or Cleveland could have started to put together better seasons if given the chance. But I do think that Collegiate sports are getting less and less patient and sometimes (like in SDSU's case), patience can pay off.

  • Skippy West Jordan, UT
    April 1, 2011 11:10 p.m.

    Seems to me cougar fans are having a great time speculating about Utahs coach.
    They find a lot of happiness hoping Utah gets someone bad. Maybe they are just hoping that Utah continues to go down hill? It really is sad that there is so much hattred concerning these two schools. The good thing is, What comes around goes around. It wasn't that long ago that the cougars were not filling their gym to watch basketball.
    And by the way...you can keep Judkins.

  • nunya sacramento, ca
    April 2, 2011 3:17 a.m.

    hahahahah, I can't stop laughing....wow. Just wondering out loud here, but hows that pac 10.2 coming along.

  • Th Tooele, UT
    April 2, 2011 8:35 a.m.

    That said, Lon Krugar is being reported as the new head coach of Oklahoma....

    Fresnogirl... I think Boylens biggest issue was that he couldn't recruit, and the couple of players he did such as Marshall Henderson bailed out. In the last year, Boylen has chased off half the team. Now most of those players weren't good other than Henderson and Brown. So he couldn't recruit, and was inconsistent if you ask me... (Lose by 30+ to SDSU, win at the PIT against UNM, swept by AFA, etc)

    It'll take some time, but Utah will get it turned around. Good programs go through bad times. Look at Michigan, Indiana, North Carolina, etc. These programs run through these cycles. Its hard to stay on top for years on end. It wasn't long ago that BYU went 1-27 in a season and 9-21 or so a few years later.

    It will be turned around but will take time and a little patience. Hill will need to be more patient with whoever our next coach is.

    Go Utes

    Utah will come around.

  • Hawkeye79 Iowa City, IA
    April 2, 2011 8:36 a.m.

    Hi Skippy,

    After seeing several Ute fans' posts about Utah's ability to bring any coach of their choosing appear on BYU sports articles that had nothing to do with coaching, I am just curious to see how they now justify being turned down by coaches from the so-called "lesser conferences." In this case, I felt it would be appropriate to address the matter on a relevant article instead of trolling a non-related story.

    Perhaps you could offer some explanations about why Utah is having such a hard time while so many other "big conference schools" are already having offers accepted? Hopefully Utah fans can soon grasp the reality that being in a so-called "big conference" doesn't magically solve/improve everything.

    Oh, and thanks for the attempted dig about filling the Marriott Center. I agree that it is not easy to fill a 20,000+ seat arena, yet the Cougars have had great attendance for a long time now. As I haven't looked for specific numbers, how has attendance been for the Utes lately?

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    April 2, 2011 8:51 a.m.

    Yes skippy we are enjoying this and we will keep enjoying it for a looong time because the incompetence leading the ute basketball program is in such direct direct opposition to everything wedgie, christina, howie, etc. keep telling is.

    Some examples.

    "One thing is for sure, dr. chris hill will get whoever he wants."

    "Dave Rose will be the next coach at utah."

    "Now that we are in the pac10 coaches and recruits will be demanding to come here."

    "Our pac10 riches will be impossible for a coach to resist."

    "Utahs unparalelled basketball tradition will net us any coach in the country."

    "We are in the pac10 now we will take whatever we want to take."

    "Mid major coaches are not good enough, we will be taking a national coach of high acclaim."

    There are probably a million or two more of these but I think this gives you a pretty good sampling. Who is it that has the more arrogant fanbase again?

    LOL

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    April 2, 2011 12:56 p.m.

    Well if Barret Peery's asst. coach experience was 'ok' at the U maybe a brighter future is in store for Ute basketball. Let me explain...

    Peery was just hired as head coach for Indian Hills Community College, a small CC at Ottumwa, Iowa. IHCC has a long tradition of winning having won 3 NJCAA titles in the last 12 years, with several 25+, and a few 30+ seasons to boot. Add to that a few conference championships.

    Not too shabby for 'po dunk' Iowa and I say that with respect as I've been to Ottumwa a few times and lived an hour to the south for many years. They take their basketball seriously.

    With Peery's connections these 2 yr kids will be looking to transition to D-1. Farm raised, corn fed Iawegians make good players... remember Kyle Korver?

    If D-1 coaches don't see the Ute coach opening as an opportunity, then it's time to get some fresh D-2 blood. Maybe IHCC can become a 'talent pool' of players and a coach!

    It's going to take time to rebuild.

  • MiP Iowa City, IA
    April 2, 2011 1:24 p.m.

    You answered your own question D-hunter: BYU.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    April 2, 2011 2:40 p.m.

    @MiP

    If that is true then why did you feel the need to answer it?

  • wardu Fallon, NV
    April 2, 2011 3:24 p.m.

    Maybe by the time the Cougars are in the sweet 16 next year, Utah will finally have a coach. I guess the good doctor can fill in in the interim.

  • Cougars1 Bluffdale, UT
    April 2, 2011 3:48 p.m.

    I think Utah fans are very confused. They like to talk about how many meetings Rose has had with the good doctor,(all undocumented) and then they bash on Rose's program as being a one man show and very mediocre.
    If Rose declined an offer from OU, I highly doubt he would take any offer from Utah. Or, do you even want this "mediocre" coach:)

  • hedgelog Idaho Falls, ID
    April 2, 2011 4:39 p.m.

    Since you over paid chow, make him coach basketball, too. That's what other high school programs would do.

  • KH Holladay, UT
    April 2, 2011 5:29 p.m.

    @hedgelog,

    It's pretty embarrassing for byu that a "high school program" beat them last year.

    17-16

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    April 2, 2011 10:16 p.m.

    If WCC is so lowly, why can't Utah attract a coach from the WCC? Does that mean Utah is lowlier than the WCC?

    Mark my words, WCC will have more teams in the NCAA next year than the MWC. (The NCAA is a tournament at the end of the year for teams who have a very good record - some Utah fans may be unaware that there's a tournament at the end of the year.)