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BYU basketball: Jimmer Fredette's last stand?

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  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    March 24, 2011 12:57 p.m.

    Jimmer has had a good career, but at the end of the day byu simply does not have the athletes(see no davies or michael lloyd) to really compete for a national championship.

    Being a top 16 is really the pinnacle of what this program could ever hope for.

    Athletes needed for anything beyond that.

    P.S. Just because you were ranked #3 once doens't mean you were the 3rd best team in the nation. What you do in March shows what rank you are.

    16 is nothing to be ashamed of, unless that is the peak of your program in 30 years. In which case it's quire embarassing.

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    March 24, 2011 12:59 p.m.

    win or lose - a great year for Jimmer. His NBA stock has gone way up over the past month.

  • Kouger Lehi, UT
    March 24, 2011 1:09 p.m.

    Let's pray! ..oops, I mean PLAY! Bring it OOOOON ...Gators!! Double the flavor 16 (Sweet 16) and what do you get? #32 ...Jimmer!

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    March 24, 2011 1:17 p.m.

    "His NBA stock has gone way up over the past month."

    It's also peaked.

    Jimer just might be the only Senior selected in the first round. No upside.

  • CocoNutzz Salt Lake City, UT
    March 24, 2011 1:18 p.m.

    We Believe

  • sfbayutes Los Gatos, CA
    March 24, 2011 1:21 p.m.

    I love to hate BYU as much as any other Ute, but I'm pulling for Jimmer tonight. He's one of those very rare talents who transcends a team, a region and the sport itself.

    Tonight I'm wearing blue!

  • jdub Ephraim, UT
    March 24, 2011 1:23 p.m.

    Chris B,

    "A top 16 ranking is nothing to be ashamed of, unless that is the peak of your program in 30 years."

    This from the same guy that rails on Y fans for living in the past?

    Go watch your Red Rocks buddy. That is the only draw in U. winter athletics anymore.

  • SamoanCougar Eagle Mountain, UT
    March 24, 2011 1:27 p.m.

    LOL@Chris B. "What you do in March shows what rank you are," which means Utah is...

    This team has exceeded my expectations and I am extremely happy with a Sweet 16 appearance. Win or lose tonight, I won't be disappointed, but if I were a betting man, I'd put my money on the Y. Go Cougs!

  • flynn is the coolest Salt Lake City, UT
    March 24, 2011 1:34 p.m.

    @ Chris B

    So are you suggesting that teams who didn't make the Sweet 16 this year or in years past had no athletes? Kansas went out in the 2nd round last year- did they have no athletes? I see this coming from you all the time- athletes, athletes athletes. Pure athleticism is not sufficient to win it all- That's why Phi Slamma Jamma never won an NC. That's why Team USA lost in the 2004 Olympics. Anyone good enough to play in Div 1 is athletic. I'll give you that there are people out there who are faster, stronger, and jump higher than most, but if this were the only requirement, why did SDSU lose the first two games to BYU? PS the answer wasn't coaching (Fisher has won an NC. Also the answer as you point out isn't because BYU has superior athletes). Your assessment condemn even your own U football team- they were not ranked, and therefore don't have good enough athletes to win. Wynn (and others) must hate you for calling him non-athletic.

  • Eddie Syracuse, UT
    March 24, 2011 1:36 p.m.

    "P.S. Just because you were ranked #3 once doens't mean you were the 3rd best team in the nation. What you do in March shows what rank you are."

    I guess the same goes for football. It on matters what you do in a bowl game. That would make the utes one of the worst teams in NCAA history.

    Poor ol ute fans just have nothing to cheer about this time of year. They will continue in this poor terrible state of being for the next 5+ years as BYU moves onward and upward and the uties move downward and into oblivion. Sorry, just the facts. Time will show that I am right.

  • TJ Eagle Mountain, UT
    March 24, 2011 1:46 p.m.

    crisb and hedge,
    Just because you were ranked in the top 10 in football at one time during the 2010 season doesn't mean you were among the 10 best teams in the nation. What you did in November and in your Bowl game showed what rank you really were.

    Being a top 10 team is really the pinnacle of what this program could ever hope for.

    What your team has done over the last 7 years is nothing to be ashamed of, unless that is the peak of your program in 30 years. In which case it's quite embarassing.

    Until you have a national championship trophy displayed at your school you really haven't done anything, Have you.

  • CaliCougar Claremont, California
    March 24, 2011 1:53 p.m.

    Hey...any wins from here on are just icing on the cake for this cougar fan. I'd love to watch them play again this Saturday and beyond, but if they don't it's been a great ride for me as a loyal fan (come rain or shine) this season. My thanks to the coaching staff and team for a memorable season! Go cougs!!!

  • International Cougar Fan Tacoma, WA
    March 24, 2011 1:55 p.m.

    BYU "CAN'T"....

    Beat UNLV on their court...

    Beat SDST....

    Beat SDST on their court...

    Win without Brandon Davies...

    Beat New Mexico without Brandon Davies...

    Win 2 games in the big dance (especially the better athletes of Gonzaga)...

    Beat Florida (even though they beat them last year)

    Wow!! BYU has done a lot of things this year even though they "CAN'T".

  • Jonathan Eddy Payson, UT
    March 24, 2011 2:04 p.m.

    First, let's make this blog post a "no response" zone to the haters.

    How could anyone possibly be upset if BYU does not make it to the Elite Eight? Any team can win at this stage of competition. This has been a magical season that will be hard to ever duplicate. Let's enjoy the game and hold our heads high regardless of the outcome and wish Jimmer a great NBA career.

  • BlueSaint South Jordan, UT
    March 24, 2011 2:07 p.m.

    BYU wins this one....Guaranteed!!

  • Tom in CA Vallejo, CA
    March 24, 2011 2:11 p.m.

    BYU won 31 games, so far - with no athletes. SDSU with all their athletes (many predict a Final 4 appearance) lost 2 (their only losses) games to a team with no athletes.

    What do we conclude from this:

    If BYU won the NCAA championship, Chris B, etal, would spin a reason to dis the Cougars. That is what we conclude.

    Enjoy the game tonight, Chris B, etal. One thing we know for sure, utah will not be on TV tonight, nor anytime soon.

  • Y Grad / Y Dad Richland, WA
    March 24, 2011 2:13 p.m.

    Alright already! I've heard from enough Ute fans with class that I will swear off taking shots at my little brethren to the north. And neither chris or wedge warrant any responses, especially today.

    In six hours, we'll either be delirious, or sad and I can live with either. Jimmer & Co have really delivered the goods and more is just better.

    I'm not overly worried about playing another bigger better faster stronger team. Just another day at the office for Jimmer, Jacks and gang.

  • CougarBlue Heber City, UT
    March 24, 2011 2:18 p.m.

    Oh Chris B, what you have guessed (and I say guessed) right 4 times this year. The other 31 times you were wrong. That gives you a 13% accuracy rate. I often wonder what it is like to hate someone so much that you only make negative comments. Chris get a life.

    I wonder where the Utes were ranked this year, or last year, or the year before, or the year before?

    Whatever the outcome it will have been a fun ride. I just don't see them getting blown out like the SD game.

    My dad always reminded me that brains and craftiness can be just as effectie as athleticism. I think BYU has the brains and craftiness.

  • rogerdpack2 Orem, UT
    March 24, 2011 2:31 p.m.

    Many thanks to Jimmer for an awesome season. Now let's go try beat the gators :)

  • JNA Layton, UT
    March 24, 2011 2:36 p.m.

    Don't think they will win tonight. Florida is too big underneath and our big game is not very consistent. Been a great season, a great team, however tonight is the end of the season.

  • aggieblue Saint George, UT
    March 24, 2011 2:46 p.m.

    Hedgie: Where were you? Chris posted faster than you. You two are more in tune with the Y than any cougar followers. Of course neither of you are are cougar fans, so why are you here? Nuf said.

    The past is the past, try and live in the present, give credit where credit is due. So your tem didn't make it, maybe next year. So your coach was fired and you covet anothers coach, so be it. Stand up and be counted.

    BYU has had a great year, more than anyone thought. These are young men who have given their all and supported each other while maintaining their honor. They represented well the Y and what it stands for and all the while exceeding what anyone thought. Give them credit.

    My predictions for the game tonight, the team that scores the most will win. Give credit to whoever it is. I hope that the Y is the winner, but if not, congrads to Florida for beating a very good Y.

    Go cougars.

  • Tom in CA Vallejo, CA
    March 24, 2011 2:57 p.m.

    NCAA 2010-2011 leading scorer:

    Kawhai Leonard - Nope.
    Tre'Von Willis - Nope.
    D.J. Gay - Nope.

    Clue - his first name is Jimmer (slow white boy at BYU). Can't run and can't jump. Absolutely no athleticism.

  • Esquire Springville, UT
    March 24, 2011 3:14 p.m.

    "alcohol-free Jimmercanes" Love it! Brilliant!

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    March 24, 2011 3:16 p.m.

    Watching ESPN every night of the tournament there is consensus that Jimmer will be drafted high in the upcoming draft. From ESPN's Kenny Smith , Jalen Rose, Charles Barkley and just about anybody else you ask on ESPN they all see Jimmer going high. Best shooter in the nation no doubt about it and even though he is 6'2" he has a solid, strong build that will bode well for him at the next level. He may not get a starting role in the NBA because of the need for more athletism on defense but as a shooter coming off the bench he will be a hot ticket for alot of teams. GREAT player that I doubt we will see the likes of again nation wide.

  • metamoracoug metamora, IL
    March 24, 2011 3:17 p.m.

    What all the sports writers and others have not pointed out is that the cougs boast a 3-1 record against teams that are in the Sweet 16.

    Here's a rundown of the other Sweet 16 teams: Florida is 2-3 with a losses to Ohio State & Kentucky twice. Butler is 1-1 with a loss to Duke. Wisconsin is 2-1 having beaten Marquette & OSU at home and losing in Ohio. Duke is 2-2 with wins against Marquette & North Carolina and losses to Florida St and North Carolina. AZ is 0-2 losing to Kansas & BYU. SDSU is 1-2 all against the cougars. Connecticut is 2-1 beating Marquette & Kentucky and losing to Marquette. OSU is 3-0 winning against Florida, FSU & WI. Kentucky is 2-3 beating Florida twice and losing to UConn, North Carolina and Florida. North Carolina is 4-2. Marquette is 1-3. Richmond beat VCU. Kansas beat AZ. VCU lost to Richmond. And FSU is 1-5.

    Overall, our cougars compare favorably with the rest of the teams.

  • Where's Stockton ??? Bowling Green, OH
    March 24, 2011 3:37 p.m.

    I keep telling you people to ignore them It's your returns that empower them. They enjoy pulling your chains!!!... so every response that you give them just delights them to no end. You people are the ones that are looking stupid because your playing into Hedgie and Chrissy's hands. they control you not the other way around. You people just aren't smart enough to figure that out.

    Sccobie

  • Pavalova Surfers Paradise, AU
    March 24, 2011 3:50 p.m.

    Hey, there's absolutely no shame in being ranked #5 in the BCS in 2010, then falling like a rock from the LDS Church office bldg into oblivion. Oh wait, we're talking about the wrong school and the wrong sport...my bad.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    March 24, 2011 4:03 p.m.

    @Where's Stockton

    Actually it is fun to have it out with them. Sometimes it is lotsa fun like now when they are just dead wrong about everything. I enjoy reading them as they expose themselvs every day as fools. So I say keep it up to both of them. I'm ready to read some more.

  • TizTheSeason logan, utah
    March 24, 2011 4:16 p.m.

    So if bYu wins.....Gators get Jimmered
    BUT....if Florida wins does bYu get Jimmered as well???
    Hmmm I'm so confused with this new Jimmer Thesaurus thing.

  • Kouger Lehi, UT
    March 24, 2011 4:30 p.m.

    Game on TBS? What is that? Oh, it's "Jimmer's Channel"! It's #32 (Comcast) here in Lehi! LOL!

  • Doctor J Manti, UT
    March 24, 2011 4:57 p.m.

    Jimmer's still inner...don't count The Kid out!

    He will play in the NBA for a long time as well.

  • AZ Dave Chandler, AZ
    March 24, 2011 6:08 p.m.

    According to Jim Rome, who pick Florida over BYU, BYU hasnt play anyone from a Major Conference since their lost to UCLA

  • awsomeron1 Oahu, HI
    March 24, 2011 6:16 p.m.

    It would have been much worse if BYU had not Stuck By Its Honor Code.

    Either you are somthing and you reperest somthing or you are not.

    That Violation is not A Small Deal with them. Chaste life, is the biggest Biggest Of All Deals, Except perhaps cheating, or a Drug Crime.

    This is BYU's Dream Season and this may never happen again. Yet with that in mind BYU Choose to CTR.

    Regardless of what happens in the game Good for them.

    Even if Jimmer Lays Bricks instead of Golden Eggs it will still have been a great and total E Ticket Ride.

    This even sparked a slight interest in my long dead sports soul.

  • In My Humble Opinion South Jordan, UT
    March 24, 2011 7:43 p.m.

    Thanks for a fun season, Cougars!

  • Hank Pym SLC, UT
    March 24, 2011 7:45 p.m.

    re: SamoanCougar | 1:27 p.m. March 24, 2011

    Big Game in NOLA? Advantage Utes!

  • FaifeauSam Lehi, UT
    March 25, 2011 7:51 a.m.

    Lots to talk about, but IT'S ONLY A GAME. Yes, I'm sad that BYU lost, but the sun still came up this morning. BYU made more points (if that's important) with the public this year with their stand on our brother, Brandon, than they would have made by turning a blind eye to his violation. Other schools have not had the courage to do the same in similar or more serious charges with their "athletes." Isn't life GREAT! In five years, thinking people will not remember this year, but life will go on and we'll chose to be happy or sad because of the outcome of things that happen. Nobody remembers who finishes second, but mark my words, it won't be Florida; go Arizona and UConn! Good luck Utes in your future with your "athletic" wanna-bees.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    March 25, 2011 11:20 a.m.

    Did I tell ya?