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Jury finds activist Tim DeChristopher guilty of both charges

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  • Rifleman Salt Lake City, Utah
    March 3, 2011 11:31 a.m.

    Tim DeChristopher is looking at spending time in a federal prison if convicted, and there is not parole in the federal system. They do have a good behavior early release which shaves perhaps 15% of the sentence.

    Claiming ignorance of the law was his only option and most juries won't buy it.

  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    March 3, 2011 11:55 a.m.

    I think this phase of the trial is a no_brainier. He admitted he broke the law, knew he was breaking the law, and was willing to accept the consequences... That's the definition of "Guilty". So that's not the issue.

    The real issue is... what will his punishment be?

    That's where it will get interesting.

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    IMO they should make sure the people who were damaged financially are restored (with a fine his fanclub can help pay) and then give him a slap on the wrist for his violation (token time in jail to teach him that civilized society doesn't accept people deciding their passion nullifies the rule_or_law).

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    I just hope he can use the time in jail to balance himself and find LAWFUL ways to help his cause... and reject unlawful ways of protesting.

    I hope if he gets time in jail he won't use that time to become MORE radicalized and determined to step over the line again if he gets the chance.

    I would hope that early_Parole would be based upon proof that he's learned this lesson. I wouldn't release him if he still thinks his cause nullifies the law.

  • Ett Salt Lake City, UT
    March 3, 2011 12:05 p.m.

    I would only say one thing to Mr. DeChristopher. Verdict quick, you're gonna be sick. Verdict slow, you're free to go.

  • TRUTH Salt Lake City, UT
    March 3, 2011 12:13 p.m.

    The kind of rational DeChristopher used is what McVeigh and Ayers also used in bombing Oklahoma and the Pentagon!

  • AlanSutton Salt Lake City, UT
    March 3, 2011 12:24 p.m.

    There is a disconnect between what DeChristopher says and what his lawyer portrays.

  • NT Springville, UT
    March 3, 2011 2:22 p.m.

    Hopefully there are no activist "plants" that made it into the jury pool. All he needs is 1.

    Also, the jury finds him guilty or not guilty. The sentencing comes later, if guilty.

  • TallGuy1970 Syracuse, UT
    March 3, 2011 3:04 p.m.

    Justice served!

  • We the People Sandy, UT
    March 3, 2011 3:06 p.m.

    Justice. I hope the bus driver who drove kids to the protest without permission is charged now.

  • Richie Saint George, UT
    March 3, 2011 3:09 p.m.

    Now that the Jury has spoken lets give him the max. I am tired of seeing the economic destruction that tree huggers cause. Maybe it will cause the next tree hugger that wants to break the law to stop before he breaks the law.

  • toosmartforyou Farmington, UT
    March 3, 2011 3:20 p.m.

    So he was found guilty. I guess his defense attorney's reference to seeing "tears" in his friends eyes wasn'yt enough to convince the jury that illegal behavior is OK when your friend is weeping. So much for theatrics and emotion, even in the closing arguments by the defense----now justice has been determined.

  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    March 3, 2011 3:23 p.m.

    Like I said earlier... a no_brainer, he's guilty. He said he was guilty. Why would the jury disagree with him?

    Now to the interesting phase. What's it going to cost him (or the Sierra Club.. who has promised to pay any fine he gets).

  • Rifleman Salt Lake City, Utah
    March 3, 2011 3:25 p.m.

    Looks like the jury did consider DeChristopher's frame of mind when finding him guilty. He won't be smiling quite as gallantly when he hears how long he'll be in Federal prison.

  • I_Love_America Murray, UT
    March 3, 2011 3:27 p.m.

    Funny thing about this whole deal is that the price of Oil is going out of the roof and these guys don't get it. We need to be drilling now and they are stopping the process. they are to blame for the mess we are in now. At what point will these people accept the fact that we need to drill. 5.00 a gallon or are they willing to ride bicycle in the snow.

  • kiaoraguy Provo, UT
    March 3, 2011 3:31 p.m.

    You can rationalize your way to hell- or a Federal Prison. Also, I see he's wearing clothes that were made partially with petrochemicals, leather shoes, got to the courthouse in a vehicle that uses oil products, his defense staff sure don't use solar power or cow manure to power all their computers- you need to walk the talk!

  • JMT Springville, UT
    March 3, 2011 3:33 p.m.

    I smell a rat with the media and the phone. I have no doubt that this could be used as reason to have the verdict thrown out and retried. I am not an attorney, so don't take this as gospel. I think we have all seen over the years very lame reasons why cases are thrown out. I remember the case of a person being tried for fraud, as they defendent walked out of the courtroom an older lady said,"Poor man!" When they got back in after the recess the defense pointed this out, the judge had the lady thrown out and it was later used in an attempt to have the conviction overturned.

    Who knows but it makes me nervous.

  • carman Alpine, UT
    March 3, 2011 3:35 p.m.

    Time for a big fine for the Sierra Club. This self-righteous do-gooder thinks he has done a good thing. And listening to his emotional friends outside the courthouse will not help him get his head screwed on right.

    Bottom line: The destruction of Rule of Law is much more harmful to the world we live in than ANY POSSIBLE HARM drilling on a few marginal parcels of land would have caused. Props to the jury for finding this criminal guilty. Now for the fine and the time! I hope he likes wearing stripes or orange!

  • pangent617 Draper, UT
    March 3, 2011 3:55 p.m.

    The system worked and the jury decided he broke the law. Frankly, I hope they give him 5 years and the max fine. Then, let's forget about him.

  • IDC Boise, ID
    March 3, 2011 4:08 p.m.

    Too bad these "activists" couldn't find a way to be productive in society. If you aren't a part of the solution, you are part of the problem. Go study engineering or biochem and really make a difference. If you can't handle that, get a good job and pay taxes to help someone else do it.

  • Teafortwo salt lake city, utah
    March 3, 2011 4:13 p.m.

    Excellent! And now for sentencing. I think a proper sentence would be to make him live his life without lumber, coal, oil or natural gas and any product made from them. This is, after all, what he wants for the rest of us.....

  • Nate Pleasant Grove, UT
    March 3, 2011 4:15 p.m.

    He should do lots of community service. Get the boy out of his bubble.

  • Neanderthal SLC, Utah
    March 3, 2011 4:20 p.m.

    "After nearly five hours of deliberation..."

    Why did it take five hours? The guy admitted to the crimes. Put him in jail and Drill baby, drill.

  • buckdazey Heber City, ut
    March 3, 2011 4:21 p.m.

    I look forward to his sentencing (hope it is long and expensive) but worry that Sec'ty Salazar will try to pardon him, like he did when he declared the sale void after Chris got caught.

  • dale richards Green River, Utah
    March 3, 2011 4:32 p.m.

    Those who support him should be charged too.

  • freddysheddy Bountiful, UT
    March 3, 2011 4:34 p.m.

    Congrats Tim. I applaud your effort and am grateful for your willingness to serve time. Because of you lands were saved. Because of you oil exploration did not tarnish land. Because of you I am further motivated to stop global warming and seek an end to pollution. Because of you more are aware of the failing public discourse available and the power of the corporate machine. Thank you. I support you despite the many other who do not.

  • dale richards Green River, Utah
    March 3, 2011 4:36 p.m.

    Those who defend him should be charged too.

  • dumprake Toquerville, UT
    March 3, 2011 4:37 p.m.

    So he and his goons are committed to breaking the law? Spoken like a true Marxist. If he weren't going to jail, the president would probably hire him as his front man.

  • freddysheddy Bountiful, UT
    March 3, 2011 4:39 p.m.

    Richie:

    I am tired of seeing the environmental chaos corporate economist cause. I am sick of it. Physically sick. Asthma rates are up, so are allergies. Why? Pollution. E. coli outbreaks are rampant. Why? Because manufacturing plants are not inspected often enough. Hundreds of pathogens and harmful chemicals are in our water supply. Why? Because corporate machines pollute our water. All in the name of the economy. Your kids are dying in front of your eyes. We all spray fertilizers and pesticides, pump toxic fuel remnants into the air and we shout horray and clap our hands! Are you crazy? Yes we are. We are all completely nuts to think that our thriving economy is doing something good. I am sick of the economy. Call me what you want. Call me a socialist, a communist, a terrorist, as long as I am not a capitalist.

  • UtahnativeinliberalCA Claremont, CA
    March 3, 2011 4:46 p.m.

    The jury was correct. He broke the law and now he should pay the penalty. He caused monetary damage to others who were lawful and should be both fined and serve time preferably the maximum.

  • 1AMom Woodruff, UT
    March 3, 2011 4:46 p.m.

    @freddysheddy Applaud away freddy. What kind of resource do you suppose was used today in order for you to get online and make your comment? Do you think that just maybe that power was generated by using coal or wind power or some other unamed resource that you don't want to explore for? Think about it. We need to develop the resources we have here in the United States. I for one am sick and tired of paying upwards of $3.00 per gallon for gas.

  • Boo Ya!!! SLC, UT
    March 3, 2011 4:51 p.m.

    Oh good for him. The trial is over, now he can grow his hair back and quit trying to act like a part of the "power" that he so much hates!!!

    A true irony. He tries to be a voice against "the man" but then dresses and acts like "the man" so he can be found in more favor! Isn't that what he was trying to voice? Acts against the system?

    But then acts like them. What a hypocrite.

  • Teafortwo salt lake city, utah
    March 3, 2011 4:53 p.m.

    freddysheddy@4:34

    Do you have any idea where natural resources come from? Coal? Oil? Natural gas? Lumber? Do you have any idea what your life would be like if people like Tim DeChristopher got what they wanted? Cold, dark, hungry, miserable.......

  • Teafortwo salt lake city, utah
    March 3, 2011 4:56 p.m.

    It is clear from his fist pump in the picture that he has no remorse whatsoever for his crimes. I hope the judge takes this into account during sentencing.

  • freddysheddy Bountiful, UT
    March 3, 2011 5:02 p.m.

    1AMom

    True and fair statement, I am using resources. But what is more important? Your precious 3.00 or the ability to live free of pollution and sickness, free of economic oppression. I don't want to use resources the way we are. We are an intelligent people. Where are our mass transit options? And don't tell me the bus UTA system works, it doesn't. I know. I take it. Do you? Or do you drive an SUV around town? Do we not realize that we live in a finite world with finite resources? If we do realize this then why aren't we being more cautious? Why are we using a system which has an end goal of infinite expansion? A finite world can't produce infinite expansion. Thus capitalism is doomed from the outset. Maybe we should stop this system before it is too late. It is obvious my words aren't working. Nobody likes my comments on here. But DeChristopher has created a movement and is an instrument for change. That is why I applaud him. He is starting something--and is far better than me.

  • freddysheddy Bountiful, UT
    March 3, 2011 5:05 p.m.

    Teafortwo:

    And what happens when the finite world of resources run out? We will be in a dark, miserable, hungry place that is full of pollutants and dangerous chemicals. Are we trying to wipe civilization off the map? And what is with the Des News only allowing 4 comments per story. How can you have a discourse with only 4 comments. Oh, right, people are tired of reading my rants. O well. As long as you realize that there is someone in Utah who isn't a drone sucking in the economy based propaganda machine.

  • David B. Cedar City, UT
    March 3, 2011 5:08 p.m.

    I don't have a problem with activists in protesting things if it's done the right way.When you cross the line and toss in an illegal act whether it does or doesn't injure somebody you have to be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.Sometimes you might be made an example of in court.

  • Older Reader Tooele, UT
    March 3, 2011 5:10 p.m.

    Just another lawbreaker considered to be a hero by a few. He can make a name for himself in prison.

  • Belching Cow Sandy, UT
    March 3, 2011 5:18 p.m.

    @freddysheddy
    I hate to break the news to you but capitalism is what made this country thrive. Because of people like you we are no longer thriving. The computer you used to type your comment uses electricity and therefore pollutes. Why are you polluting freddysheddy? Do you own a car? Do you own a home? Do you have any clothing with polyester? Do you eat? Do you own anything plastic? If so then you are a hypocrite.

  • Go Big Blue!!! Bountiful, UT
    March 3, 2011 5:18 p.m.

    Guilty as charged. Now if we could just him pay the cost for this legal proceeding.

  • grj Bountiful, ut
    March 3, 2011 5:23 p.m.

    @ freddysheddy: enough complaining and whining about what you think is wrong - what are YOU going to do about it to make a difference? What do you think each of us needs to DO to make a difference. Anyone can complain.

  • Rifleman Salt Lake City, Utah
    March 3, 2011 5:29 p.m.

    Re: freddysheddy | 4:39 p.m. March 3, 2011

    If you're tired of the chaos corporate economist cause you should stop feeding it. No more trips to the gas station, food stores, and using electricity is definitely a no no.

    We can't have our cake and eat it too. Stand up for what you believe and quit feeding the beast. Of course that will mean not using the internet ..... because that takes energy that could otherwise be used by the common masses.

  • Lagomorph Salt Lake City, UT
    March 3, 2011 6:42 p.m.

    dale r:
    "Those who defend him should be charged too."
    "Those who support him should be charged too."

    On what charges, exactly?

  • dave31 Salt Lake City, UT
    March 3, 2011 6:50 p.m.

    @ freddysheddy
    I have the feeling that someone else is still paying your way through life. Perhaps when you begin taking responsibility for your own upkeep you will be more sensitive to the costs all of us will be forced to incur in your "idealistic" world.

  • toosmartforyou Farmington, UT
    March 3, 2011 7:08 p.m.

    Too bad the comments here have denigrated from whether or not the law was broken to the freddydheddy coments and reprisals. My experience years ago (1979) was when an environmentalist moved to Utah from Massachuetts they said they had just as soon announce they were a communist as an environmentalist. I replied "That's because they use the same tactics." My later take on it is that they were just plain born in the wrong century; they'd fit perfectly in horse-and-buggy days where everyone grew their own food on their own farm. Of course medicine has advanced since then, too. Do they want to go back to the good-old-days for medical attention or just transportation. Tim broke the law and now he gets to suffer the consequences. Since he's happy about that, what's the big deal?

  • chilly Salt Lake City, UT
    March 3, 2011 7:15 p.m.

    The sentence: 5 years hard labor in a Price coal mine.

  • stgmajones Cottonwood Heights, UT
    March 3, 2011 7:15 p.m.

    I agree with 2 bits. The one thing that amazes me is how many "drill here drill now" people there who would be the first ones to complain when their property value went down because an oil refinery was built next door. Anyone want any oil derrick next to the grill and swing set in the backyard??

  • jsf Centerville, UT
    March 3, 2011 7:56 p.m.

    With all those environmentalist supporting Mr. Dechristopher, We have to protect our lands from drilling but no problem lets drill the fragile landscapes in the middle east. Like its been said if you use synthetic materials, eat food not grown in your backyard. take public transportation, ride a bike, had a flue shot, or use electricity, then you are responsible for the corporate raping of the land in the middle east, Mexico, Venzuala. If the Iraq war was for oil, then you are equally responsible for causing that war by using oil products. And you can't have solar or wind generated power without the use of oil. So the next time your out protesting to protect the view in Utah, you are responsible for the rape of other countries.

  • Rock Of The Marne Phoenix, AZ
    March 3, 2011 7:59 p.m.

    Maybe his hippie protester friends can sing him folk songs from the other side of the prison fence. I say give him a year (two at the most) to think about it ; 10 years seems very excessive for the crime as there are murders who don't spend that long in jail; just because you don't agree with him doesnt mean he should be hung out to dry.

  • Still Jim Bountiful, UT
    March 3, 2011 8:04 p.m.

    There was certainly no injustice here. He got what he deserves.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    March 3, 2011 8:09 p.m.

    dtgmajones,

    When people say "drill here drill now" the word "here" usually refers to the United States - not every single backyard anywhere. There are substantial oil deposits found in relatively low populated areas anyways. A "thank you" check from the govt could appease if some might be affected. Silly liberals.

  • md Smithfield, UT
    March 3, 2011 8:11 p.m.

    Do the crime...do the time.

  • morganh Orem, Utah
    March 3, 2011 8:22 p.m.

    I have never been to Federal Prison, and the thought of working in the laundry or the cafeteria for a couple of bucks an hour isn't to exciting. It will take him a long time to pay back the 1.8 million that he owes. Are his valiant supporters or the Sierra Club willing to cough up that much?

  • Where do eggs come from Sandy, Ut
    March 3, 2011 8:27 p.m.

    Tim and his friends want to kill all chickens because they make a mess but they still want eggs for breakfast. They will get their eggs at the store.

    If they really want to protest they should stop using products that use oil. When they do that, then you can believe that they mean what they say. Until then they are ignorant hypocrites.

  • sniggy Payson, UT
    March 3, 2011 8:45 p.m.

    GOOD

  • arsphd Provo, UT
    March 3, 2011 9:06 p.m.

    Let's see how warm and supportive these "activists" are when DeChristopher needs donations to pay the fines. Stupid demonstration, complete waste of time and money.

  • Rufio Saratoga, UT
    March 3, 2011 9:21 p.m.

    freddysheddy | 4:39 p.m.

    Ever consider that the average life expectancy of someone in the US that lives around all the "bad" corporations is much higher than parts of the world that don't have them or for those that lived 150 years ago.

    Ever consider that some liberal influence in your life has clouded your objectivity and polluted your mind?

  • bgl Santa Monica, CA
    March 3, 2011 10:10 p.m.

    Let's face it, the guy has more courage and strength of conviction than any ten people who have posted on this thread. Most of you have not done, or will ever do anything cause that doesn't benefit yourself. Certainly, the huge majority of you have never served your country. It's hard to look at a man with real convictions and find ways to justify your lack of the same. This former serviceman (USMC 74-77) salutes this man who seems fine with drawing a line in the sand and being willing to accept the consequences. Ask yourself--"Do I have his guts?" You will probably find yourself sadly lacking.

  • byronbca Salt Lake City, UT
    March 3, 2011 10:18 p.m.

    Yes he broke the law but the law he broke was unjust and was designed only to help net oil companies money at the expense of the American people. The problem with going through the "proper channels" is that most of these channels are designed to help only those with money and power.

    I hope that when he gets sentenced that the judge recognizes that the law he broke is ridiculous and unfair and that the punishment established far exceeds the act.

    No man should do more than 6 months for simply disrupting an auction. It's not like anyone got hurt here.

    How much jail time did the people at BP oil get for causing the biggest oil spill in US history because of pure negligence? That's right zero.

  • Rock Of The Marne Phoenix, AZ
    March 3, 2011 10:37 p.m.

    bgl, I'll give that he had guts but I question his common sense as he should have known that breaking the law would have serious consequences. If he is willing to take it like a man than I can respect that. To me and many others on this board, it a matter of national security that we become self sufficient energy wise but until hydrogen fuel cells or the like are perfected we are stuck with fossil fuels and needlessly limiting the development of our own resources (while everyone else exploits theirs) makes no sense from a economic and national security point of view. In an ideal world there would be no pollution etc. but 6 billion people in the world trying to survive makes that halcyon dream. Also wrong O on not serving my country though I doubt Mr. DeChristopher can say the same.

  • ObamaRepublican Chandler, AZ
    March 3, 2011 10:37 p.m.

    As one reads the various comments on this board it is very clear that most utahns can not see the destruction we as a nation are causing being addicted to oil. We send billions of wealth to nations that hate us, we send billions to fringe religous nuts who will one day bomb our cities and destroy generations of wealth.

    You cry drill here drill now but do not even know that US consumption is 25% of world demand but our total reserves are less than 3% of supply. The only way to avoid and end the sucking sound of the pumps is to demand alternatives now! More power to men like DeChristopher who stand up for their values, right or wrong at least he had the courage to act, and didnt sit on the fence!

  • Crash G Lehi, UT
    March 3, 2011 10:51 p.m.

    Re: freddysheddy | 5:02 p.m. March 3, 2011
    "A finite world can't produce infinite expansion. Thus capitalism is doomed from the outset. Maybe we should stop this system before it is too late."

    Capitalism is the worst system for fairly distributing our finite resources...except for all the other systems.

    Capitalism has given us the medicines and medical practices that have raised the life expectancies of the entire world. It has provided a quality of living second to none. Poor people in economically free countries have a better standard of living than all but the rulers in the repressive countries.

    The other systems, Socialism, Communism, Marxism have only managed to kill 100 million people in the last century. Look at the numbers killed by the Khmer Rouge, Stalin, Lenin, Hitler, North Korea, Somalia and so many other countries. Many historians place that total over 100 million.

    So sure Capitalism is bad, but I wouldn't trade it for anything else, and neither would you. Your precious "other systems" wouldn't even let you voice an opinion that wasn't the one given to you.

  • toosmartforyou Farmington, UT
    March 3, 2011 10:59 p.m.

    To all those ANTI-OIL types posting here: There are greater oil reserves in North Dakota than the middle east. The amount of land required to drill in Anwar (Alaska) is 2,000 acres, less than the footprint of Salt Lake International Airport. There is no need to drill "off-shore." There are trillions of cubic of natural gas that have already been developed. Why not build cars that run on Natural Gas for the regular price and charge MORE for a car that runs on Gasoline? Electric cars are no answer, just like ethanol was no answer, either. So Tim showed real concern about our energy situation by breaking the law? Wow, that's a stretch to assume that was a responsible approach! He got his fame; now he can enjoy in it the federal pen, with plenty of time to fist-pump whenever he wants but there won't be the media around to show it. In this country we are not out of oil, neither are we out of politicians that are "private-agenda driven." 'Green' means "greenbacks" and is far more expensive--please explain why that is true if it is soooo desirable!

  • skinnyreporter Farmington, UT
    March 3, 2011 11:10 p.m.

    All DeChristopher supporters who used fossil fuel (natural gas) to heat their homes or apartments or who rode a fossil fuel powered vehicle (bus, train or automobile) to the courthouse are hypocrites. And using an electric car should not absolve them of responsibility as in this area almost all electricity comes from fossil fuels or hydro, which is generated by turbines in dams that are universally opposed by the environmental extremists. The extremists have plenty of complaints but no viable solutions except for reducing human populations. They are opposed to nuclear power, which has had minimal impact on the environment in the U.S., but they like windmill generators, which knock migratory birds out of the sky, ruin the scenery and destroy wildlife habitat because roads are needed for maintenance workers to reach the generators. The chief reason cited for opposing the use of fossil fuels is the man-caused global warming junk science, universally loved by liberal profs while ignoring contrary evidence even as much of the northern hemisphere has suffered through one of the most severe winters in years and as the arctic ice cap expands.

  • J. Colette Merrill SLC, UT
    March 4, 2011 1:23 a.m.

    There may be a few of you who would consider studying what Civil Disobedience means and how it has effected societies in the past.

  • JMT Springville, UT
    March 4, 2011 5:28 a.m.

    Just so we are the same page, the clenched fist has been the symbol of Revolutionary Communism since the 1920's. Very, very common in Communist motif. This is not to say that DeCristopher et al are active Communists, just noting the realy history on the clenched fist.

  • Rifleman Salt Lake City, Utah
    March 4, 2011 6:10 a.m.

    First Tim DeChristopher tells the jury he didn't understand what he was doing was wrong and now the convicted criminal tells his supporters he'd do it all again.

    I submit that he wasn't telling the truth then ..... or now. He will be long forgotten by the time he gets out of federal prison. Once out he'll still be looking at the mega-fine the judge is going to tack on.

  • A_Chinese_American Cedar Hills, UT
    March 4, 2011 6:58 a.m.

    This is indeed a very good example for the difference of Criminal and "Civil Disobedience". People need to learn lessons like this. Good for Utah and for the nation.

  • apocalypse now Woods Cross, UT
    March 4, 2011 7:17 a.m.

    I'm amazed at all the protesters he has had out there for days. If gas gets to 5 dollars a gallon this summer there are going to be even more people protesting that we haven't done enough. I'm for a livable planet, but I can't live with $5 a gallon gas.

  • Still Blue after all these years Kaysville, UT
    March 4, 2011 7:50 a.m.

    Good verdict. Max sentence warranted. Pre-meditated. Look at Wisconsin and Indiana, sacked out libs think they are above the law. Even Obama picks and chooses what laws he will enforce. All despicable.

  • KM Cedar Hills, UT
    March 4, 2011 7:51 a.m.

    Nice photo of dechrisopher and his defiant tyrannical communist fist pump. I hope he intends to live like his comrades and live in depressing government apartments, and ride a bicycle to his government job.

  • Charles History Tooele, UT
    March 4, 2011 8:27 a.m.

    Remember,

    Time will tell, history is filled with those that...

    Conservatives never become heroes for what they believe in.

    Tim DeChristopher is guilty but in the history books he will be a hero.

    Re: "TRUTH" 12:13
    McVeigh and the bombing Oklahoma is a radical conservative movement.

  • ouisc Farmington, UT
    March 4, 2011 8:35 a.m.

    Each of us dislike some feature of our government. Each of us make decisions every day with how we cope with our government and how we can influence our government. Every day we can choose to follow our laws. Every year we can choose to pay taxes. We can choose to get our cars inspected every year. But their are consequences to our decisions.

    I guess he got what he wanted. Some call it civil disobedience. Some call it an eyeroll. A few may remember that he botched that one auction. But most of us will move forward, trying to figure out how we can afford to move towards alternative forms of energy.

  • Uncle Rico Sandy, UT
    March 4, 2011 8:45 a.m.

    A lamb in the courtroom, Lion on the steps of the courtroom after. HHmmmmm.

  • gem2477 Layton, UT
    March 4, 2011 8:45 a.m.

    Who in their right mind could support this guy? He is a criminal, pure and simple. He did nothing heroic or moral.

  • JohnH Cedar City, UT
    March 4, 2011 8:52 a.m.

    Even with the best of intentions, it's not nice to commit fraud.

  • envirodog west valley, utah
    March 4, 2011 9:12 a.m.

    Does anone in this state or country care that the land purchase auction was illegal to begin with. A federal judge recognized this fact after the act of defiance that Mr.Decristopher committed. If not for his courageous actions thousands of acres of illegally purchased land would now be in the hands of oil and gas developers. Do you want this kind of illegal deal taking place without your knowledge or input as a Utahn? We should be thanking Mr. Decristopher for exposing this illegal deal that almost took place,that all responsible Voters and tax payers should know when their public and state land is being sold is not to much to ask from our governing officials. This trial should only have happened if this was a legal auction.

  • Charles History Tooele, UT
    March 4, 2011 9:15 a.m.

    YES....

    Salt Lake City was named the #9 most toxic. We have poor air, poor water and poor soil. Our children our born with more problems "autism on the rise" & Record number of children born with disabilities" because of what we are putting into our bodies.

    What do we get from the conservatives: More bad air, water and soil, more cuts for industry, less money to help what we are causing, (cuts to education and social services).

    "Forbes ranks Utah capital No. 9 because of pollution issues" thanks to all you great conservatives we get to live in this toxic environment.

    When the 18 BYU professors write that global climate change is real, what do me get; conservative law makers are being upset that they can not control them with their purse strings, (to shut them up like they do with the USU and Utah professors). Our conservative law makers think about making money for themselves.
    Time will tell when Tim DeChristopher is labeled the hero.

  • justamacguy Manti, UT
    March 4, 2011 9:42 a.m.

    I hope DeChristopher's supporters are all there to protest and help me when I defy an unjust government who passed a law against me riding my dirt bike in a wilderness area! Thanks for the words of inspiration DeChristopher. Let's ride.

  • envirodog west valley, utah
    March 4, 2011 9:46 a.m.

    Does anyone care that the banking and housing crisis is due to "FRAUD" Lets go after the real perpetrators whom we are all so upset with for causing this mess we are facing financially, and hold these people responsible for our economic hardships. Not one major figure in the investment world has been sent to prison for defrauding the American people out of Billions of $$$. Open your minds and voice your anger and distrust at the real criminals, "Corrupt Wall street investors!"

  • BDZO Salt Lake City, Utah
    March 4, 2011 10:20 a.m.

    If the eyes are the windows to the sould he is scared to death. His appearance after the guilty verdict seem to show that he is not the same fighter he was hours before. There is a way to make statements but breaking the law brings consequences. I don't think if he had the chance he would take the same actions.

  • Elcapitan Ivins, UT
    March 4, 2011 10:26 a.m.

    If I am going to have to pay $5 a gallon in order to drive to see my framily once in a while....I want it to be on US Oil, even though controlled by the world market, not Arab, or anti US controlled oil. I am sorry President Obama, I just do not have the huge income to be able to afford a little "green machine" that you promote as a substitute for US Oil. My present car will probably be my last car, and it runs on gasoline. Let us get real. Mr. Christopher will be a symbol of those who have unrealistic hope for the future of transportation and electricity coming out of nowhere.

  • Robroy Murray, utah
    March 4, 2011 10:41 a.m.

    Don't you get tired of people being termed activists? In today's world, for the most part, it has come to mean an overaged, unemployed student with time on their hands. Basicaly the failure to launch types that still live with their parents. In Mr. DeChristopher's case he is nothing more than a common convicted felon. Hero? Courageous? I think not. Most criminals exhibit some type of warped courage as they go about breaking laws. He is no different. He has had his 15 minutes of infamy. He and his band of sobbing misfits can carry out their crusade from the point of the mountain where I'm sure he will find more loyal supporters. As far as climate change is concerned.... of course there is climate change. It has been with us since the beginning of time. Dramatic periods of warming and cooling which will continue regardless of the silly efforts of these misguided "activists".

  • TJ Eagle Mountain, UT
    March 4, 2011 11:03 a.m.

    Freddy;
    Move to Alaska.
    I would like to see Urban areas with less pollution but this type of action by DeChristopher cost taxpayers millions of dollars. I hope he spends significant time in prison and doesn't get out until he pays every cent that was spent on this ridiculous fiasco.
    The government is rewarding auto makers for enviro-friendly product. There are Billions of dollars at stake for the oil business and they will do everything in their power to make sure consumers everywhere pay them as much as they can get for their product. They buy politicians and influence every decision regarding oil production and development. The inhibit efforts to curb fossil fuel use. Attack them.

  • Demosthenes Rexburg, ID
    March 4, 2011 11:04 a.m.

    If we keep listening to the fringes, the middle will suffer.

  • Charles History Tooele, UT
    March 4, 2011 11:28 a.m.

    No. 9 Most toxic, Thank you conservatives - may all our children not suffer to badly.

    Yes more tax cuts for the industries that hurt our children.
    Less money for our children in education and those that are disabled.

    THE CONSERVATIVE WAY.

  • John Pack Lambert of Michigan Ypsilanti, MI
    March 4, 2011 12:13 p.m.

    Justice has prevailed.

  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    March 4, 2011 12:36 p.m.

    The penalty phase is what will be interesting. There was no question he was guilty now. He's been convicted, that part's over.

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    I hope people who see him as a hero... or want to emulate him think before they leap. There are consequences with Felony Convictions (regardless of the fine or prison time he gets).

    #1. He can't vote. Convicted Felons can't register to vote in Utah. We don't want our leaders selected by Felons.

    #2. He can't own a gun. If he tries to buy a gun the background check will reveal that he is a felon, prevented by law from owning guns.

    #3. His employment prospects become much narrower. Many responsible jobs (jobs requiring security clearance, jobs where you have to be trusted to handle people's money, teaching, etc... don't hire convicted Felons)

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    He's given up a lot for his cause.

    Just THINK about what you're doing before you just impulsively jump into something like he did.

  • Fitz Murray, UT
    March 4, 2011 2:24 p.m.

    There is a line in the story, which has been repeated in various forms in the comments section, indicating that Sec. Salazar said the auction was improper. There was a review of the auction by the Office of Inspector General for the Dept. of Interior (OIG). While the entire report has not yet been released, there was a memo dated Dec. 29, 2009, from the OIG to Sec. Salazar that indicated Our investigation found no evidence to support the allegation that undue pressure was exerted on BLM personnel to complete the RMPs so that previously deferred lease parcels could be included in the lease sale prior to a change in White House administration. The Deseret News did a story about this memo. The auction apparently was totally legit under BLM rules. It is a disservice to the employees of the BLM to accuse them of violating the requirements for approving a parcel for auction. I have worked with many BLM employees in my career and while I do not always agree with the direction they want to go, I have always respected there efforts in following the rules.

  • karllp Lehi, Utah
    March 4, 2011 3:20 p.m.

    He should have to pay back what he bid on to the oil companies with interest. The parcels he bid on should go back on the market for sale. We have to many enviromenalits that have caused havic to our country. If you want to know a true envirmentalist it is a farmer. They take care of the ground, if they don't they make no living. They know what areas to farm and how to utilize what they have to make a living. Compare this to the enviromentalist of today they want to shut down every thing. They want to put land off limits so no one can enjoy. They say they do it for the people but they do it so the resources can't be used. They force their agenda on others and this has caused prices on all products we use to go up in price. They want to clean the enviroment and some of what they have done is far worse than what was used in the past. What will the enviromentilist say when their is no fuel or food?

  • Doug10 Roosevelt, UT
    March 5, 2011 8:08 a.m.

    I hope the Utah lawmakers get involved and give him a driving card and let him do whatever he wants. All he did was something illegal and the other illegals are getting amnesty thanks to our lawmakers.

    He supposedly owes 1.5 Million for bids he cannot consumate. That is a drop in the bucket the state pays to educate the illegals and that number is a percentage of what the state pays for their healthcare. We are talking hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars.

    Although I don't agree with what he did it is a far cry from the crime perpetrated by illegals here on a daily basis.

    If something is illegal then apply justice across the board, it is not fair to pick and choose who has to obey the law.

  • Eric 13 Bluffdale, UT
    March 5, 2011 8:54 a.m.

    Teafortwo: I thank this is a very good idea for all of us,back to basics.-----------------If only we could.----- we may still be able to save the planet!

  • Eric 13 Bluffdale, UT
    March 5, 2011 9:53 a.m.

    Freddy, 5;05 pm 3-3-2011. you can still recommend!--I believe we can all do something to help save our sick planet. think about it.=turn of the t.v.,plant a tree,a garden,anything green inside or out.Walk or ride a bike. Don't drive unless you have to. We can be in control if we learn to do it. If we stop buying gas the price will come down. We the people need to talk to each other and do things to help. Use cold water to rinse the dishes,use fewer chemicals, slow down and think! look at what we are doing to the west. We are following the same plan they used in the far east to turn the forest to dust. We are getting more mud slides,more floods,more bear ground every where you look.If we the people do not do something to change this no one will stop mother earth from dying.