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Utah Legislature opens with prayers, music and speeches

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  • cc0623 Roosevelt, utah
    Jan. 24, 2011 11:16 a.m.

    I hope that the legislative body takes into account all of the approximately 3,000,000 Utah residents feelings when they square off over illegal immigration and not just the 3,000 signatures on the Utah Compact that Robles is trying to push on Utah. The argument Robles is pushing is Utah does not have the right as a State to enforce Federal immigration policy and out of the other side of her mouth she is saying Utah has the right to make it's own laws and allow illegals a free pass because they are already here breaking the law. Robles cannot have it both ways and I think she shouldn't have her way at all. There are already Federal Laws pertaining to illegal immigration. Those laws should enforced at a State level if the Feds won't enforce the existing laws and protect the interests of all US Citizens.

  • FDRfan Sugar City, ID
    Jan. 24, 2011 11:26 a.m.

    Utah, the world is watching you. You are the best hope for good government.

  • Most Truthful and Patriotic Layton, UT
    Jan. 24, 2011 12:57 p.m.

    Do the religious ceremonies that opened the Legislature, define the LDS-centered politics of Utah?

    As the grandchild of an immigrant who only had to come through Ellis Island and show she did not have TB, I support open borders.

    The LDS came to Utah BEFORE the Treaty of Hidalgo was signed in 1848. This isn't about immigration; this is about keeping brown people "where they belong" (mowing our yards, cleaning our hotel rooms and cooking our meals).

    To paraphrase a favorite phrase of the right wing:
    When all immigrants are illegal, only illegals will be immigrants.

  • Pagan Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 24, 2011 3:53 p.m.

    'Therefore your implication that the Mormon pioneers were illegal immigrants is not very pertinent.' - Counter Intelligence | 2:41 p.m. Jan. 24, 2011

    Ok.

    Counter Intelligence, please give the who and what date, gave Mormons the LEGAL authority to live in Utah.

    When it was, as you say, disputed territory between: US, Britain, France & Mexico...

    while trying to say nothing about the Ute tribe that lived here before them.

  • Esquire Springville, UT
    Jan. 25, 2011 6:56 a.m.

    With all due respect, this sounds like more of a church service than a government activity. Is it one and the same?

  • Pagan Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 25, 2011 9:22 a.m.

    'Well; since Utah was disputed territory, it was rather difficult to get a final authority on who was able to offer either LEGAL or ILLEGAL authority to enter wasnt it? So you merely ask a trick question.' - Counter Intelligence | 4:29 p.m. Jan. 24, 2011

    It's not a trick question. The people who had established themselves there first were the 'nomadic' Ute Tribes.
    Though they didn't have a policy initially, I'm pretty sure they did when they were forced to onto reservations or to flee to Canada.

    Since Mexico, France, the US and Great Britan were where people were comming FROM...

    not where they were going TO.

    Since the land of destination did NOT factually give pioneers consent to immigrate here, they did not move here...LEGALLY.

    That's like saying Mexico gave immigrants legal authority to move to America.

    And yet, even with this example in history, those who benifited from illegal immigration try to deny that same lesson to others.

    Irish, Polish, Danish, European America is decended from immigrants.

    To show such lack of compassion to others is truly a shame.

    And if you have a guilty consience, I canot help you.

  • USAlover Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 25, 2011 10:54 a.m.

    This is the only "shakedown" that begins with a prayer!

  • Utah Dem Ogden, UT
    Jan. 25, 2011 11:13 a.m.

    Question to Dennis Romboy and Lisa Roche - why was it necessary, important or warranted to have a quote in your article from the Eagle Forum?

    As a member of the LDS Church I too am curious as to why two GAs were part of the opening day - there are other religious organizations in Utah as well as individuals that could provide a moment of reverence, spiritual thought, etc.