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Utah's $1.5 billion cyber-security center under way

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  • hapticz New York, NY
    Jan. 5, 2011 6:52 p.m.

    now everyone knows where to put the built in bugs!

  • Steven S Jarvis Orem, UT
    Jan. 6, 2011 5:45 a.m.

    Oh great! Now Utah has a better chance of getting nuked in the event of a war than they did before. At least there is an increased chance the state will feature in a Fallout game.

  • ECR Burke, VA
    Jan. 6, 2011 6:27 a.m.

    I sorry but I feel I have to highlight the fact that the federal government is doing some good things here:

    1. Providing better security to our nation and it's citizens
    2. Providing much needed jobs in a struggling economy
    3. Promoting and executing the construction of sustainable buildings

    Those are good things...aren't they? It seems worth noting that the federal government does, in fact, do good things and that the existence of "federal land" is one of the factors in choosing this sight. Congratulations to Senator Hatch and the other members of the Utah congressional delegation that helped secure that project and congratulations to the the state of Utah for fostering the circuimstances that helped win this project.

  • Liberal Ted Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 6, 2011 7:33 a.m.

    I'm not sure if the building will last being a LEED building. My experience with LEED buildings is that they are overpriced, built with cheap materials, take a long time to construct and the end result is a large cheap product that falls apart on day one.

    I would rather see a military infrastructure like this be built out of good solid materials, that will last.

  • Phillip J Fry West Valley City, Utah
    Jan. 6, 2011 7:35 a.m.

    This is great news for those in construction and the IT industry. It's good to see projects like this going up in Utah, it keeps Utah and the United States at the forefront of technological innovation. I'm normally against big government projects but this facility is all about national security which is a proper role of the government so I'm all for it. With Utah's lower energy costs, lower cost of living and highly skilled workforce this facility will save money over the current facility which I believe is near Washington DC.

  • mrcyberdoc Studio City, CA
    Jan. 6, 2011 7:48 a.m.

    This complex paid for by a government that has NO MONEY in the bank and $14 trillion dollars in debt. Let's just print more worthless paper.

  • Craig Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 6, 2011 7:59 a.m.

    Spying on American Citizens is not the proper role of government. This center will use a massive amount of electricity, raising our rates.

  • DrW Saint Paul, MN
    Jan. 6, 2011 8:15 a.m.

    America's spying on its citizens is WORSE than that in the old Soviet Union, because the TECHNOLOGY now is better.

  • Cedarite Cedar City, UT
    Jan. 6, 2011 8:42 a.m.

    I would imagine the "pro-government no matter what, you're a terrorist lover if you disagree, if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear" stance that was so common in Utah during the last administration had something to do with placing the facility here. Funny how quickly that sentiment changed in Utah once the democrats came into power.

  • Clydesdale Tooele, UT
    Jan. 6, 2011 8:58 a.m.

    More GOVERNMENT Jobs, less private ones. Not good for anyone. And like others above have said, we all know what this is really for, spying on us, the enemies of global warming (Gore called us Nazi's) and Barrack Obama. Clinton said we should be in a straight jacket, Obama called us enemies. No wonder why they're putting it in Utah. More enemies here than anywhere else.

  • BlownfuelCoupe Las Vegas, Nevada
    Jan. 6, 2011 9:20 a.m.

    Looking out for "YOU"!

    Orin Hatch touts a few bucks,and a few jobs.

    The potential loss of American Liberty, Freedom, and Privacy should be the paramount concern of the Utah Senator.

    Shame is a rare commodity.

  • ECR Burke, VA
    Jan. 6, 2011 9:23 a.m.

    Clydesdale - Actually Al Gore didn't call anyone a Nazi. He likened the battle of global warming to the war with Germany. He was in England at the time and invoked the name of Winston Churchill to make his case.

    I have, however, heard many opponents of the Al Gore philosophy refer to his group as "enviro-nazis".

    I guess Steven Stills had it right in the mid-60's when he said, "Paranoia strikes deep, into your life it will creep...step out of line the men comeand take you away."

    Be careful!

  • Independent Henderson, NV
    Jan. 6, 2011 9:28 a.m.

    Get a grip people. The cyber threat is a real problem to national security and the economy. Read the book Breakpoint, by Richard A. Clark. Although it's fiction, the book highlights many of the real issues with cyber security. We need to be at the forefront of this technology, instead of falling behind our enemies.

  • Madsmoker Thunderbolt, Georgia
    Jan. 6, 2011 9:30 a.m.

    "Our great computers... fill the hallowed halls"

    If you're not guilty, you have nothing to fear. ;-) ;-) ;-) Your paperz pleazzzzz...

  • bwilson2011 New York, NY
    Jan. 6, 2011 9:34 a.m.

    Nice to see our government taking steps to bring intel into the 21st Century. I do question the wisdom of building a critical data center on a MAJOR fault line! Guess Orrin Hatch got his way on that earmark.

  • cactusflats American Fork, UT
    Jan. 6, 2011 10:04 a.m.

    Earthquake proof? Let's hope all our data on terrorists doesn't get sucked into a giant fissure in the earth after the big one hits.

  • UtahVoter Spanish Fork, UT
    Jan. 6, 2011 10:30 a.m.

    So basically, Senator Hatch is applauding some wildly expensive, very temporary government meddling with our construction market so that we can more permanently employ maybe 100 Federal snoops to more effectively spy on our own citizens. The ones that dare mention the "Constitution" and "civil liberties".

    Great.

    Don't get me wrong. I'm happy to see construction. I like to see jobs -- even the temporary ones. But this is being built with taxpayer money under "supersecret" (read: 'completely unaccountable') budgets in order to purposely and expressly violate the rights that our Founding Fathers risked everything to secure.

    I don't applaud that, but I think it disappointingly telling that Senator Hatch does.

  • Laura Ann Layton, UT
    Jan. 6, 2011 10:35 a.m.

    Oh, no. The government is going to find out I didn't pay taxes on my farm in Farmville! I feel so threatened.

    I'm curious as to how the government is going to threaten my freedom, liberty and privacy with this new facility. If I want to keep something private, just don't put it on-line. Get a grip, people.

  • kentex1146 Grand Prairie, Tx
    Jan. 6, 2011 10:38 a.m.

    All I know is our guvment would never lie to us. They've never lied to us before and they never will.

  • ack ardenwood, wa
    Jan. 6, 2011 11:01 a.m.

    Maybe the excitement surrounding this announcement should be tempered by the knowledge that this is going to be used predominantly to surveil all the electronic communications of AMERICANS, people!

    A more productive use of the land and money for this country would be to build an alternate energy plant, such as solar furnace, wind, or geothermal facility.

    I don't trust the NSA to protect me from anyone, especially from myself.

    The police state is here, and you welcome it?

  • ack ardenwood, wa
    Jan. 6, 2011 11:09 a.m.

    Yay!

    The government is building the biggest data storage center, EVER, to be able to keep a record of every electronic communication or transaction you ever made.

    Welcome to the police state.

    Thank you, liberal President Obama.

  • Anti Bush-Obama Washington DC, MD
    Jan. 6, 2011 11:59 a.m.

    Remember everyone, It's not tyranny if our government spies on us, It's only tyranny when other governments spy on they're citizens. That seems to be the mentality of people that are stuc in the Reoublican/Democrat paradigm.

    They can build this Big Brother fusion center somewhere else like china where spying on citizens has become legal.

  • Anti Bush-Obama Washington DC, MD
    Jan. 6, 2011 12:06 p.m.

    Kentex1146 @ 10:38

    "All I know is our guvment would never lie to us. They've never lied to us before and they never will."

    I think you need to read more and brush up on your history skills.

  • bodgerdlue Kearns, UT
    Jan. 6, 2011 12:10 p.m.

    Interesting to read all of the conservative voices who told us that there was nothing to worry about the Patriot Act "if your not doing anything wrong" under Bush going all Orwell about a data center being built under Obama.

  • kentex1146 Grand Prairie, Tx
    Jan. 6, 2011 12:13 p.m.

    A government's greatest fear is of the people it governs. And quite possibly that may be more truer of our government today than any other country in the world.

  • P.Humilis Holladay, UT
    Jan. 6, 2011 12:29 p.m.

    This article brought out the real addlepated cretins. Most are so paranoid they would not know the truth if it grabbed their personal information, and watching the hypocritical ANONYMOUS group working out there to protect wikileaks, I would worry more there ;)
    But hey, you all know better than me youve obviously been audited before

  • utscotsman Orem, Utah
    Jan. 6, 2011 12:35 p.m.

    Hath's comment: "It is so unique and so intensive," Hatch said. "This will establish our state as one of the leading states for technology."

    Come on, if you believe that I've got a bridge in Alaska to sell you. Hatch is being the typical political porkster. It will probably end up being named the Hatch National Spook Center. Does he really believe that this will provide a boost to Utah as a leading state for technology? Are they going to share technology that is highly classified with Utah's open forum computer technology community? Hatch has been drinking too much of his own koolaid. These 200 jobs are only a drop in the bucket and these employees are not going to be running around promoting and sharing computer technology with the rest of us.

  • FreedomOVERTyranny N/A, ut
    Jan. 6, 2011 12:38 p.m.

    This is ridiculous! Anyone who believes this is good isn't thinking straight. This place is set up to spy on us, Americans, MIAC report says that people who are for freedom are terrorist. It also says that the Number 1 threat to America is Returning Vets. WAKE UP PEOPLE THEIR SPYING ON YOU! YOUR RIGHTS ARE BEING TAKEN FROM YOU!

  • darjen cleveland, oh
    Jan. 6, 2011 12:51 p.m.

    Great, more money down the drain for the National Security State(tm). Security Theater is more like it. What a sad waste of money...

  • Dr Franklin caliente creek road, ca
    Jan. 6, 2011 2:44 p.m.

    I would like immediate disclosure of any connection with the Lord Mayors office in the City of London between Balfour Beatty construction Company and in particular any connection to BBCc with the and the livery guild; worshipful company of security specialists. and further if they, the BBCc, are in fact under a second employment contract with the worshipful company of security specialists for covert operations inside the United States for the subversion of our Republic.

  • Independent Henderson, NV
    Jan. 6, 2011 3:11 p.m.

    What makes you all think you are so important that the government wants to spy on you? It is a fact that much of our essential functions of infrastructure and national defense are dependent on computer networks and software. Do you think maybe it would be important to protect ourselves from people looking for vulnerabilities in these systems in order to do us harm? Do you really think this isn't an issue? Do you think maybe the NSA and this new center would have some legitimate function besides spying on some dude in Utah? I repeat: Get a grip.

  • landonhemsley Logan, UT
    Jan. 6, 2011 3:13 p.m.

    Jobs for Utahns = good
    Attention and bettered reputation for Utah = good

    Those who work at this center are just as likely to spy on Norwegians, Indians, Brazilians and the Dutch as they are to spy on Americans... That's just my opinion.

    Hear hear to the man who said, "If you want it to be private, don't put it online."

  • George Bronx, NY
    Jan. 6, 2011 3:48 p.m.

    @liberal ted
    So could you give us an example of a LEED building that fell apart day one because my experience has been just the opposite.

  • kiapolo Provo, MA
    Jan. 6, 2011 4:46 p.m.

    I sorry but I feel I have to highlight the fact that the federal government is doing some good things here:

    1. Providing better security to our bloated government and its tyrants who support destroying the constitution, while the borders are wide open.
    2. Providing much needed jobs in a struggling economy to further spy on its own citizens, while the borders are wide open.
    3. Promoting and executing the construction of sustainable buildings while our nation is broke and the borders are wide open.

    Those are good things...aren't they? It seems worth noting that the federal government does, in fact, do good things and that the existence of "federal land" is one of the factors in choosing this sight. Congratulations to Senator Hatch and the other members of the Utah congressional delegation that helped secure that project and congratulations to the the state of Utah for fostering the circuimstances that helped win this project.

  • Lessthantolerant Spartanburg, SC
    Jan. 6, 2011 5:07 p.m.

    One thing is for sure, with USACE involved the project will be mismanaged, over budget and filled with claims from the subcontractors who survive having to deal with the unethical practices practiced by USACE.

  • Murray Dad Murray, UT
    Jan. 6, 2011 5:12 p.m.

    Re:Dr. Franklin
    Could you translate your post to American?
    Is there conflict of interest with Balfour Beatty and NSA?

    Re: Liberal Ted
    LEED certification doesn't mean inferior materials / construction; I have seen the opposite - usually energy efficient concrete shell type structures.

  • hatuletoh Sugarhood, UT
    Jan. 6, 2011 5:18 p.m.

    The NSA is like the TSA: ask them for some proof they the do enough genuine good to justify their existences and costs, and they'll reply with a line about how proving they contribute in a meaningful way to our safety would compromise our safety, so for the sake of our safety, we'll just have to trust that they're ensuring our safety. Safety safety safety!

    A reply which, to an actual American, should be completely unacceptable. But somehow we've become so timid that we'll blindly throw very real money down a metaphorical hole, and cross our fingers that it's helping somehow. It's like the world's largest, least aesthetically pleasing wishing-well. You can't prove it DOESN'T work, right?

    I'm happy for the construction workers, at least. Those folks have had a tough go of it lately.

  • Hunsaker West Sacramento, CA
    Jan. 6, 2011 6:40 p.m.

    Yea, right, Utah. Sen. Hatch has done it again. A BILLION and a HALF dollars to build a hugh GOVERNMENT facility to SPY on the rest of us. Smart and makes sense. If anyone thinks this is not the case, you should move to California where there are no taxes and the state is not in debt to anyone and they have no crime - WAKE UP AMERICA! Stop allowing these pork bailouts!

  • GWB West Jordan, UT
    Jan. 6, 2011 6:47 p.m.

    The funny thing is that if Chaffetz and Lee get their way on not extending the debt ceiling, the construction will grind to a halt because the government will not be able borrow the money to finance this project.

    Wait for it everyone...

  • danaslc Kearns, UT
    Jan. 6, 2011 10:06 p.m.

    I think this is wonderful news. I believe that our security in the surrounding area's will be stellar due to this center. We need more technology here. It keeps getting sent to India via the companies in Utah. Lets hope this can't be outsourced. Lets hope we can keep the fires away from it.

  • LEDSFW Las Vegas, NV
    Jan. 6, 2011 10:50 p.m.

    In response to the comment on LEED design, trust me, I personally know in this case the structures will be structurally sound enough to last at a minimum 100 years.

  • GOVERNMENTDESTROYSFAMILIES Buzzards Bay, MA
    Jan. 7, 2011 9:04 a.m.

    More money taken out of hard working American families to support governments wasteful intrusive programs. Government uses our own money to buy its toys that it uses against us. It's amazing how 911 was used as an excuse for this and other programs. I wonder who the real culprits are behind 911 and why hasn't bin laden been caught yet?

  • Erk Logan, Utah
    Jan. 7, 2011 6:53 p.m.

    Some fact checking here... There is going to be 100,000 sq feet of data center, and 900,000 for technical support and administrative. With 100-200 employees, that makes 4,500 square feet per employee, which would be one heck of an office. Someone's information is a little off. Follow up?

  • Kitenoa Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 8, 2011 9:13 p.m.

    "To accommodate is to be abused"; by either Big Brother Government or by Enemies from without (or from within the country). When?

    Perhaps, we will just have to wait and see the outcomes of this fantastic claim of security for the American people, and opportunity for cyber space power dominance, let alone the economic boost.

  • James Ogden Bountiful, Ut
    Jan. 15, 2011 2:03 p.m.

    Anyone know if there will be a tunnel to DIA?