"Yapias said immigration officials have assured him that the information
gathered would not be used for immigration enforcement"WHY NOT?
it still isn't right that illegal aliens are allowed driving or any other
privileges. If you aren't a citizen, you don't get citizen's rights. How many
illegal aliens with a drivers card have insurance? If they are in accidents, do
they take care of their responsibilities or rely on the fact that they aren't
here legally in the first place and thereby don't have to abide by our laws?
That's what I hear all the time from them. They like the benefits but scoff at
whatever doesn't aid them.
....and if waiting at the DMV isn't fun enough. I figure if you cannot speak
english or have a heavy accent, you might need to bring proof. Good thing I
don't need to renew till 2011.
The answer is not to explain the away the "confusion", but to remove any right
illegals have to drive in Utah. If we removed all the perks which are currently
offered, we might reduce the number of illegals in our State. I beleive we
should welcome and assist all legal immigrants who have gone through the
extension process to come here and be part of the American Dream. Illegals,
while their intent in coming here might be good, have violated our laws and we
should never reward illegal behavior.
Up here in Oregon we went through the same change last year. Two interesting
results of the change were:1) Lines in the DMV offices were, and continue
to be, much shorter.2) It was amazing how many people that are citizens
don't have documentation to prove who they are and where they were born. The
law caused such people many problems, I'm just surprised they could have gone
years or decade without needing such documentation.Sasheen, next
time smile for the camera (:>)!
there should not be any kind of rewards for illegal immigrants,no driving,no
free education,no welfare,no rent subsidies,not one thing should be given to
people who enter this country illegally,they should all be sent back,and i agree
with in my opinion,that is how they are,take take take,with never paying a dime
to contribute to the money they steal,yes steal,thats what it is,send them all
So when are we going to get off this politically correct band wagon and just
admit that the real reason we did this as a state is to limit illegals from
obtaining legal drivers licenses? Why can't we just admit it? I'm so sick of
being labeled a racist simply for asking my fellow residents to obey the same
laws that I have to obey!! I agree with you 'In My Opinion' they want all the
benefits with out any of the responsibilities!
illegals have life too
You have to be a real moron to think that issuing a drivers license to Illegal
Aliens will stop them from driving. The legal license allows them to purchase
cars AND INSURANCE. Take away the license and they can't buy insurance people.
In other states if you get in an accident with an illegal they are ALWAYS
uninsured. In Utah that isn't the case. The drivers license
shouldn't ever be about immigration, it's about insuring that drivers on the
roads are competent and insured. Take away that license and we lose all ability
to make sure people are insured and competent and it won't stop a single illegal
from driving. In CA you get in an accident with an illegal and they deport
him/her and you are stuck fixing your own car and the illegal is back in 2
weeks. Which system is better?
Personally I have been hit by an illegal who bought insurance for one month and
then dropped it. He is still here and does not show up for court hearings and
was not arrested at the time of the accident because he left the scene. So there
are criminal charges pending if they ever track him down. This is the general
pattern with illegals. So I would prefer the California system where they they
deport them and I will fix my own damaged car with my insurance. I am not a
moron, just fed up of illegals.
Of course illegals have lives. What's your point? They should be pursuing their
lives in their country of origin and not stealing my life and the lives of my
children. My childrens' classrooms are overcrowded with illegals, the emergency
rooms are filled with illegals who will never pay for the services, the social
and welfare systems are overburdened by illegals, they rarely carry auto
insurance and they often bring diseases such as TB with them when they cross our
borders illegally. What's the upside of illegal immigrant, cheap labor. It's
not worth it.
What's so confusing, prove you're a citizen, not too difficult for citizens!
Hmmm everyone that's reading and posting a comment in here seems to just lost a
job or just being selfish. First of all you lose your job not entirely because
the illegal it's because the rich getting richer by outsourcing the job to
different continent. No doubt about that why paid American workers for 15-30 an
hour while you can paid some people in other continent for less with same
result. Think about it ..American people nowaday seem to blame it on everybody
else when you should be doing is look for what can you do to help fix the issue
on the hands.
Bill of Residence and a couple of other things..Anyone that is Born here
does not have a Problem
Yesterday I renewed my license. What a zoo. And yes they scan all your
documents you bring in, now big brother knows even more about you.The line of people questioning the process was endless. My favorite was the
70+ year old women that had lived in the same house for 50+ years, was known by
the DMV processor but couldn't renew her license because whe didn't have a
social social security card or a passport or a copy of her birth certificate.
The women couldn't remember if she had ever received a social security card and
had no W-2 or 1099. Obviously she is illegal in the eyes of our law makers. Go
figure! The legislature has created a rather confusing nonsensical
set of rules and requests that will make it hard for a lot of people to renew
their license. The prove your address component is vexing, what about the
people with PO boxes only...or the spouse that is not listed on utility bills
etc, or the fact most people are going paperless and don't even receive the
requested statements except by the internet--only partial usable for this
This law will actually be detrimental for the fact that more people will be
driving without a license,even those who are born in America citizens.Illegals will always be illegals and this law just is a socialism type law to
punish true citizens.
I have had a Utah drivers license for over 45 years and no one in the Utah
Government knows that?No wonder we have illegal aliens.This new law
is absolutely ridiculous it will not keep illegals from driving. It will raise
the cost of insurance because more people will be driving without licenses. You
can't force people to abide by these kinds of laws.
Well, employers you have no excuse for keeping illegal aliens. The illegals are
giving you proof that they are illegal. I hope you enjoy your fines you are
going to pay within a year.
An underclass of citizens is not for the greater good. The Greater good would be
for us to return to a time when ethics and morality meant something. Where we
never had to pander to a group of individuals as far as enforcing a law. The drivers license bureau is required by law to turn information over
to immigration if asked, as quoted in the article. This could help find people
the police are looking for. Other than that, giving privileged cards to people
illegally here makes no sense. I guess that's why we are the only state to do
Iam a U.S. citzen and because I was born on a miltary base in Germany I have to
prove I am an U.S.citzen. Iam tired of the illegalls get all the benifets and
over loading the system. I further belive that if you are here illegal than you
have no rights to anything that we have like welfare system, no schooling and no
breaks on low income housing. I have been hit twice by illegals and both imes
they had a lince and no insurance and it takes an act of congress so to speak to
get payed for the damage they do. Our fore fathers set up a system for coming to
this country, why do the illegals think they are better than anyboby else that
come to this country.
Only Orginal and hard back SocialSecurity cardsASk for Information =Dont
be scared just do it!
I waited in line for almost two hours.Make sure your name on your social
security card matches the name on your birth certificate and drivers license
(also utility bills). I use the initial of my first name and go by my middle
name. A. Marie and I had to apply for a new social security card with my full
name on it. I'm calling the utiliy companies and having my full name on
everything. This has been a nightmare!
Guess I stepped on the modirator's toe's.......on my last post.Still, let me say this.Illegal is illegal. And Illegal aliens in
any form will be dealth with in the courts whether they have some outlawed
document in hand or not. And Utah....see ya in The Supreme Court should ANY of
your Illegal's with YOUR license be involved in ANY accident and me.Got it?
It's not just the illegals this is affecting negatively. What about the women
with their name changes during marriage and divorce. Pray you only get married
or divorced once since you gotta prove who you are through all of them with
CERTIFIED copies. Unfortunately for me, not only did I pay at the
time of the marriage and divorces but now I have to pay yet again for certified
copies of my mistakes. This is one way of balancing the budget!