Rah RahGo Same ol roster, Go O Connor'yeahhhh
The Jazz did two things to hurt their chemestry: Trade Maynor and bench Mathews.
Trading your first round draft pick for money is giving up on your future. Bad
"carma" I know he only played 14 minutes a game but he was consistenly in the
plus column and ran the team well in Williams absence. Did you notice the
Thunders 5 game win streak. Mathews has done everything asked of
him and was benched to make veteran players happy. If it aint broke don't fix
it. Currently there are no defenders in the starting lineup.
Memphis is in town, fresh from beating Portland at Portland. Gasol, Gay,
Randolph, with Thabeet coming off the bench. The same old stuff isn't going to
work this time around. Utah HAS to go big, and that means Fesenko backing up
Okur for at least 12 minutes, and it also means not running Boozer at center.
Boozer and Millsap need to spell each other at PF with a true center on the
floor. Make it happen, Coach!Peace out from the Jazz Oracle!
Add "Chemestry" and "Chuck Nunn's" comment together; and I can't say much except
to repeat "If the bigs aren't ready to play by playoff time, then we're out
quickly. No one ever won a title without a big guy in the middle. Please wake
Maynor was traded so the Jazz could save $10M. Don't blame that one on O'Connor.
He had a directive from Greggy boy to cut payroll.Greg Miller is
just like daddy. Both too cheap to put together a contender. Jazz have Boozer's
expiring, they now have a trade exception from the Maynor/Harpring deal. But
I'll bet none of those assets will be used at the deadline when some good
players will be sold for 70 cents on the dollar by cash-strapped franchises.Millers have made money on the Jazz hand-over-fist the last 25 years. It
has always been run as a profit-first business. So why not use some of that
profit to finally go after a title. I bet that was one of Larry H's regrets. He
had 2 of the greatest players EVER, but he was always to cheap to extend payroll
and bring in that one additional star or strengthen the bench - moves that could
have/should have brought the Jazz a title. Instead, the Millers will
rely on you sheep to keep going to games, keep buying merchandise. Keep giving
them profit for a marginally competitive team.
I believe in being patient, but CJ's progress is frustrating and I'm most
frustrated with Sloan not doing something to fix the interior Defense. Sloan
needs to play Fes and give him enough minutes to see if he is going to be the
answer to the Jazz's defensive problems.
Dear chemistry,I don't know if you understand b-ball but Maynor was
not going to save the season. Now blame Greg Miller for saving 10 million by
trading away a back up. As you mention the Jazz are over the cap. That means
to most people the Millers have done their job. We have talented players (even
without Maynor), we have a proven coach. Millers have put together what the
fans asked for. The coach and players are not jelling and time has a way of
working that out. Time should help you as you try to grasp the concepts of
b-ball as well.David needs to go to school as well. He gives the
coach blame for the bigs not being ready. Koudous played Ukrainian ball for 4
season and Koufos hungering for the big bucks gave up 3 years of college ball.
They are not ready for the NBA in any way except they are taller than most.Our bigs would get beat in most church halls in Utah and there is not
much the coach can do except let them practice and practice and practice...and
try not to listen to the fans
@Chemistry: Miller's are too cheap to put together a contender? We have the
3rd highest payroll in the NBA. Where did you go to school? Did they teach
math when you were there?The Jazz are already in the luxury tax zone
and you want them to go buy more contracts? I hope you don't own your own
business and have employees who rely on you to pay their bills.
I am so glad Boozer is still here.Offensively this team the last 10
games has tanked. One of the few players on this roster that has not declined
offensively and is ACTUALLY STILL GETTING BETTER YEAR OVER YEAR IS BOOZER!!This team would be so far under .500 if he was gone. You think it is
bad now--you can't even appreciate how bad it would have been without him.He is playing better defense this season and his offense is even
better.I have always said that I don't this team can win with both
Booz and Okur together and I still believe it. It would not break my heart if
Millsap was traded and Boozer stayed at seasons end. Offensively Boozers stats
are simply top tier in the NBA.We should unload some of our talented
pieces for a big Center to plug the middle. The problem always is who would
trade their good Center? The answer is most of the time the same...if the team
is willing to trade him then 9 times out of 10 there is a reason.Point? Okafor. New Orleans was shopping him soon after they signed him.
Do you think things are desperate enough yet for Sloan to brush his ego aside
and play Fes? I guess I'll believe it IF we see it.
There is no doubt this is a talented team. I think that we all forget that the
players for the most part are still kids. Early twenties for the most to upper
twenties. As a fifty something adult I stop and look back at how immature I was
at 20 - 30 years of age. These guys I'm sure are getting down on their selves
and getting into a funk! They just need to grab themselves by the shoe strings
and pull themselves back up. Sloan needs to step up as the wise father figure
and give these kids the encouragement they need to have confidence in
themselves. GO JAZZ!
There is no practice time now. Your losing games with who your playing, why not
play Koufus and Fess? Last year Koufus got lots of playing time the first half
of the season when we needed bigs. Why does he not get NOTHING NOW? His numbers
last year were good also, as for Fess all of the ex-players and basketball
people associated with this team not on the coaching staff have stated very
publicly numerous times about the potential and athletic abilities of Fess. If
you look at these 2 players logically why are they not getting minutes during
this non existent play by many players who are not performing for us now? This
is just crazy! Blame Jerry totally because of his veteran player bias.
You should be used to it. Your teams always choke every single year and the
20,000 sheep go to GM Place to watch a very talented team with maybe the best
goalie always choke.Sorry "sloanaholic"
My post was deleted. Last night I discussed MemphisBe afraid..Be very afraid.What could save Sloan and his legion, is they are
playing back to back and have a weak bench.Memphis starting 5 is a
handful.Although what I saw of the game last night, Marc Gasol plays
like the typical Eastern Euro Type and plays no d. He looked like Okur standing
and watching like Freddie Gwynne of the Muensters.He can score and
is a low post threatGay, and Mayo are incredible, Randolph is in
better shape and scored 25 last night.They combine point play with
Mike Conley the young man from Ohio State and veteran backup formerly with
Indiana Jammal Tinsley.They combined for 11 assists last night.Who is going to guard OJ CJ?HEE HEEMatthews
should be startingHowever, the Miller rhetoric notwithstanding
and "state of the union address" Predictions:Another sellout
tonightStarters DWIL, CJ, Brewer,Boozie and OkurLots of
The only logical reason that Jerry doesn't play Fes and Koufos is because he
knows that if they do good it will make him look bad for not playing them before
now. It's obvious he is trying to keep them stashed. This is insane.Guy's are getting lots of playing time in the paint who do not defend.(
Boozer, Okur ) Jerry what happened to the commitment you made at the start of
the season to defense. You said you were going to bench the guy's who don't
defend. Well Boozer and Okur are still logging plenty of minutes. They still do
not defend and we are LOSING. Fesenko and Koufos are still glued to the bench.
Two 7 footers who do defend Jerry are sitting right on your bench while the team
goes down the drain.
Whatever happened to Andre 'Darko Milicic' Kirilenko?Please someone
tell Miles to not throw up 15 bad shots a night..It seems like Miles and
Kirilenko constantly throw up a shot everytime they touch the ball...I think they ought to bring up the entire D League team.....AND OF COURSE FIRE
SLOAN AND KOC.
Reason/InsanityBP, and JBRA might take offense and the other
"sloanaholics"What a great post-right on the money...There is something behind this more than not be "good enough" in practiceSo if they are that bad, why are they on the rosterAfter
all, maybe better practice players would be Barney Rubble and Freddie
I think Sloan has had enough of miles,I say he puts Matthews back in,miles slips
to 13th man behind the new guy from I-da-hoe
If DWill is hurt or out things will get worse. The offense will run worse. I would cut Greg some slack. The Jazz have made money directly or
indirectly for the empire in the past. However, the cash flow for the whole
empire has to be hurting badly right now.I do not think you can
blame him for cutting his lux tax bill on a continuity team that is clearly not
a contender. I do think it is fair that he provide a 2 year road map
for fixing the problems that are consistent patterns with the Jazz. 1. The Sloan inside offense is broken.2. The inside defense has never
existed.3. The outside shooting is poor.4. 2 decades of losing road
records.5. Poor first round draft selection.I do not think
broad vague PR proclamations are going to cut it. He needs to make some specific
indications of how the above are going to be addressed in hopes of becoming a
I love that B52s reference, dude that is classic....Great to see you back after
a few days off...I agree, LOOK Matthews is not perfect with his
offense.Having his D mindset is more important. CJ is
"planet Idaho"He is to guard OJ?I am on the floor
laughing so hard, I am crying. I need to revive myself out...
good takes, but how is he going to do that? Either the Coach gets changed or
certain players are to be scouted for the Draft/ Also, you cannot name players
under contract that can fix problems due to "tampering"How would
Greg be specific?This is the point---Miller does not come out and
have the guts to say thisJazz Fans: "we are hurting terribly in
this economy. Our team due to marketing and social trends are not taking in the
revenue other franchises might be. We have made mistakes in judgments, in
regards to contracts and player personnel decisions. We can only try now and
fix these problems starting immediately. We are not happy unless this community
can support a team with us that can compete realistically for the NBA title.We appreciate all Jazz Fans around the country, we need the support more
than ever. We hope within 2 years to be challenging again for conference and
title honors.In the meantime, some decisions with costs and tough
decisions will have to be made. We will make each decision carefully. In the
interim, we will try and remain competitive and always have the best fans in
This team does not have many players that other teams need. Besides Williams,
Boozer, or Kirilenko(to a team that would use him correctly), who is really
attractive to another team?
you people that want fes/kk to get more minutes should reassess your
thinking...as whose expense minutes wise do they come...keep in mind the biggest
problem the jazz have right now (among many others) is scoring points...do they
play for booz, your best scorer---no...okur, maybe, but he's still even in a
slump a scoring upgrade over fes/kk..how about ak..neither are better
offensively than ak and neither fes nor kk can guard a 4....give them milsaps
minutes...i don't think so, see reasons above on ak...it just doesn't make sense
to playe either except in spot duty....
Along with what boozer said, he pretty much covered everything, except he forgot
the point that the jazz need to score to win. minor details, putting the ball
in the basket.
I would start Fes and get him 25-30 minutes,mostly from Memo and see what he
has,and I mean start him for a few games not just today,what are we afraid of,
what he might do,we`re gonna lose anyways
I agree..Fesenko needs more time...
Fesenko needs to be Okur's primary backup. How that takes minutes away from
Millsap, who ought to be Boozer's primary backup, is beyond me, other than it
would bring to an end the disastrous practice of running Boozer at center, which
has been a problem for Utah every single game. Plus, if the Jazz had a real
deadeye shooter from the perimeter who can spread the floor, that opens things
up for more inside scoring. Okur's in a slump, Miles is sporadic, D-Will is
suffering, Korver has been out and is just getting back on the floor, Kirilenko
is inconsistent. If you can't generate the offense you need, you have to be even
tougher defensively, and Utah's been outscored in the paint the last three games
and it will likely happen again tonight unless Fesenko gets minutes and the Jazz
stop going small. Oh, and as a matter of fact, Koufos IS capable of guarding the
4.Peace out from the Jazz Oracle!
The Jazz have been wise investors! Look at the league's big spenders: Knicks,
Cavs, Mavericks, and Blazers. None of these guys have done anything. The Lakers
are big spenders but they will make up that money easy with their big market and
a guaranteed long playoff run. Two ways to win in the NBA lucky draft (Duncan,
Shaq, Olajawon) or assemble assests and make a smart move ('09 Lakers, '08
Celtics, '06 Heat, '04 Pistons). The Jazz are playing style 2 which means they
could steel a title but a dynasty comes through the draft!