So BYU can criticize those who say Oregon just wasn't motivated in 2006, but
then turn around and play the same card for last year?Hypocrites!
We're an excited and dedicated football team. No really... we're
excited... and dedicated... oh, and we're having fun too... at a higher level...
A wise man once said that you will find what you're looking for. Based on your
comments, you're looking for hypocracy and are finding it, whether it truely
exists or not. My friendly suggestion is that you find a new hobby, or at least
make an effort to find something more positive in your life.Stay
classy, UteFan, stay classy.
Hey, ute troll,it's not really an analogous situation, but then don't let the
facts get in the way when criticizing BYU.
The Cougs better come ready to play, because the Beavers were a play or two from
going to the Rose Bowl. This isn't some rogue, 5th place team in the Pac-10.
No question about it.Even though BYU won their "BCS bowl game", 26-23,
this team still needs a new direction. Or they will keep chasing the January BCS
games forever.Say what you want,BYU fans, but Utah and TCU will have their
recent (less than a decade) BCS bowl games/win to show off. BYU has none except
a quarter-century old NC (with an asterisk) that fans will bring up whenever
Utah fans talk about their 2 BCS wins.
"Looking foward to playing a good team this year" They played a good team last
year. Last year I worked 12 hours all night then drove 8 hours to Vegas I'm
diabetic, 40 years old and still had more energy than the Cougars. Now they say
they're excited so we'll go again I guess. My wife and are excited to go to the
Holiday bowl though. I'm so mad about TCU BOISE we may skip driving 2 hours to
Pheonix. Also the ESPN bowl special was lame, they didn't even mention the Vegas
bowl. 2 ranked teams ain't bad. I hope BYU fans are more excited this year and
can muster some crowd noise.
Hey, if it hadn't been for BYU and a few others who rose out of obscurity to
tweak the noses of the elite NCAA establishment in the old 'system', there
wouldn't even have been a BCS to falsely inflate the pride of some. Kudos to
Utah and others to take advantage of it and expose the bias of the BCS, but no
more credit than to the pioneers who did the same thing under their
circumstances. If it hadn't been for the likes of BYU, would anyone be paying
attention to Utah and Boise St. now? Utah wouldn't matter as much if it didn't
sometimes beat BYU. Your passion to discredit BYU only exposes the insecurity
of your own claims.
Say what you want Ute fans, but you went from 2nd best in the country (I have no
problem admitting that) to 3rd best in the Mountain West.That is not
a trait of a consistent national team.
I am a big BYU fan, but this article is discouraging. Arizona handily beat BYU
in last year's Las Vegas Bowl, and now we are talking about how we were
discouraged by not being able to play a better team? We sound like Alabama
after its loss to Utah. "We were better, we just didn't get up for the game."
Fact is, we played a better team and got beat. So did Alabama. Better teams
win games. I hope we are up for this game this year, and then some - no
excluses. Otherwise, expect the same result.
I am more disappointed in Coach Mendenhall every week."We were down
because of the loss to Utah, so we didn't use all our practices and didn't play
hard."The best cure for disappointment is HARD WORK and success at
the next thing you do. It isn't whining and sulking and taking days off! It
isn't making excuses.Max Hall spouts off about hate, and Mendenhall
doesn't comment for 9 days. People talk about BYU being the "Lord's
University." Well, apparently Mendenhall, Holmoe and Samuelson have very
different standards than Jesus, who preached against hate and anger.I'm a BYU grad, but if I had a boy who was being recruited by BYU, I'd advise
against him playing for that coach and that team. I'd want him to play for
someone who actually teaches the thing Bronco preaches about on the intro to the
coach show on KSL.
How come byu is not suing the BCS this year?.... Was is not byu that threatened
to sue the BCS when they were not awarded a bid in 2001?... Maybe if they cry
more the BCS will finally hear byu?
So you are clear. Either talk about the present or talk about it all. I would
focus on your bowl against an unranked team. Recent past should be painful for
you. Anything before this year does not include a mythical, magical, National
Championship. You will just have to trust me on this - the feeling
of winning a National Championship does not compare to being one of 8 teams in a
BCS bowl. BCS bowls are to be commended - they are not a National Championship.
How old are you? Are you another BYU Freshman?
I am a big BYU fan, but this article is not discouraging. Who gave BYU a chance
at beating Oklahoma at the time they played them? You can say the team has been
up and down this year despite the record of 10-2. Who would have thought they
would beat New Mexico by only five points? The bottom line is they have one
more game to play, and we can expect they will put forth their best efforts to
win. As for the BCS and NC stuff, it takes winning and some amount
of luck to make it to the top. The only reason BYU has not played in a BCS bowl
to this point is because of when they have had their winning streaks. It was
just last year that BYU had a 16 game winning streak that ended in an October
loss to TCU. Sixteen is more than enough to get you to a BCS game. I seem to
recall two consective seasons where BYU did not lose a conference game. This
was something that never happened during the Edwards era. Add four consecutive
10 wins seasons to that. The future is bright for BYU football.
What are you TEACHING????? -------Your not a BYU Grad.
Yes thanks to BYU Utah would have 2 National Championships instead of Just 2 BCS
wins. Darn it all to heck. BYU strikes again.
Right. If BYU doesn't start the game fired up and well prepared, they will get
their butts kicked by an tough, balanced team.
So occasionally I read comments just for laughs. Reading some of these today,
make it clear that some of you on both sides need to get lives.
I hope BYU is smart enough to use all of their practices for the bowl game. Not
to would be very foolish. Winning every game is important, especially BCS
teams. In the future I hope we can get some games against the likes of Notre
Dame, Penn State, Ole Miss, USC, Miami, Boston College, Georgia Tech, Oklahoma,
etc. I think all of BYU's nonconference game should be against BCS teams.
Thanks BYU for good football the last 5 years. Good luch in the bowl game.
Oh, you Ute fans. The only thing that's needed is for the Little Brothers to
actually study and understand college football.BYU went 14-1 in 1996
and would have qualified for a BCS bowl under current regulations. They also
beat Kansas State in the Cotton Bowl on New Year's Day in 1997.In
2006, the Cougars were only a last-second field goal and an overtime loss -- 10
points total, both on the road -- from an undefeated, BCS-qualifying season.By contrast, in 2008 the Utes were only 6 points and two missed field
goals away from a two-loss season.Not to mention this year the Utes
finished at 3rd place in the MWC for the fourth time in the past five years.I wouldn't start calling your team a dynasty just yet, especially since
the Utes have had a very hard time against good teams on the road this year and
still have a game to go against California.A 9-4 season is still
possible, which based on the past 20 years is about what you can normally expect
Relax "What are you teaching."
"BYU fan", always living in the past. Remember 1984, I don't.
How so? Please explain. Here are some "facts" for you to ponder.Oregon was gunning for a Rose Bowl in 2006, caved, and was relegated to the
Las Vegas Bowl against who they felt was an inferior Mountain West team. After
losing to BYU, BYU fans became offended at the thought that just maybe Oregon
didn't try very hard because it didn't want to be there.BYU was
gunning for a BCS game in 2008, caved, and was relegated to the Las Vegas Bowl
against who they felt was an inferior middle-of-the-road Pac-10 team. After
losing to Arizona, BYU fans expect people to believe that last year was just
because the team wasn't motivated?Hmmm ... am I missing something
here are is your brain just not computing "the facts"?
Careful now!! Both BYU and Utah may end up losing their bowl games. Let's hope
we don't have Pac-10 refs.Let's hope the Cougs & Utes prepare and
play as if Oklahoma & Alabama were the opponents.
I love you Ute fans! Thank you for always having something to say about BYU!
It's so nice to see that you care so much about the Cougars! We should have a
Ute fan appreciation day at LaVell Edwards Stadium! Maybe for the USU game,
huh? Then we can all get together and sing Kumbaya.Seriously,
though, get over the hate and cheer your team on. I know I rooted for the Utes
in both of their BCS games, despite being green with envy. So, love your team
and be happy!
Isn't agency wonderful? You don't have to send a son anywhere to play in
anything.But you apparently HAVE to demean BYU and its football
program. Why would BYU want a son who learns that from a parent's knee?
BYU may be getting a stronger opponent in the Las Vegas bowl than TCU will see
Love you guys
OSU is full of speed - trouble for BYU. BYU doesn't deal with speed well. Also,
OSU has a good passing QB. Ouch!!! Another thorn in BYU's side. Bronco better
learn to "EXECUTE" in this bowl game unlike last year. Execute is Bronco's
favorite word (or excuse after a loss) so my hope for Bronco is being your
preparation early so you can actually EXECUTE!!!
ARIZONA surprised a BYU team that obviously had no respect for them.The COUGARS surprised an OKLAHOMA team who obviously had little respect for
BYU.Among the many points, on the agenda driving the BEAVERS
motivation, one bullet to be considered is the fact that a 10-2 MWC second place
team looks at OSU as just another speed-bump on their way to an 11-2 season.
Your logic is very elementary --as in 2nd grade.Bottom line (and result)
is that Utah got it done (ie won when it needed) to go to (and won) BCS bowl
game.And, after all excuses, BYU did not get it done and still chases
after BCS bowl game.--BYU did not get it done at home vs average FSU and
then TCU this year (2 blown out losses)--BYU did not get it done in 2008
vs TCU and the mighty BCS-bound Utes.
But sir, we love our Utes and...We are very happy with 9-3 in a year that
we start freshman QB.We are very happy that BYU did not make BCS again
-yet for another year.We are very happy we still have Kyle as a coach.We are very happy that BYU still has Bronco as its coach.(we are only
sad that Maxi has no chance to return to our stadium next year so that we can
meet, greet and send him off properly in style)
38-8 (with the lone score for Oregon coming in the 4th quarter when the outcome
was already decided) vs. 31-21 where BYU had the lead until midway through the
3rd quarter. I would say the two are very different, i.e. not analagous.I think motivation is the excuse, but the real reason behind the loss to
Zona last year: the defense was not good. Call it motivation if you like, Jan,
but you and your boys on D sucked last year. The O did enough to win the Vegas
Bowl, the D did not. This year the D is better. Use motivation as the word,
but really, the quality of the product is just higher this year.
I realize that the Utah Fans that are contributing to this Forum are the EXTREME
minority, but the obsession with BYU displayed in these comments is
laughable.The Utah game is HISTORY. BYU won!!! It may have been
lucky. It may have been a fluke. Utah may have better Athletes (Speed Kills -
one of my favorites). Utah may have better Coaches. Regardless, BYU gets the
W.Hopefully, BYU can build some momentum from the victory over Utah
and play a solid game against a TOUGH Opponent in Oregon State in the Vegas
Bowl.Hopefully, Utah can recover from their close loss to BYU and
find motivation to beat a decent Cal Team. I would advise the Utah Fans to
focus on the upcoming game. BYU and Max Hall are old news.Lastly,
TCU and BSU got the shaft. Hopefully, TCU can make a statement.
I have a hard time even believing that you are a BYU fan and I wouldn't worry
too much about having a son that would be recruited by Mendenhall/BYU... I
wouldn't be surprise if you are the same geek who sets near us and every year
stands up and yells' "give the ball to Stahlei".. (never has figured out that
he's no longer playing.) I think Mendenhall is a good coach and
teacher/example... Every time he opens his mouth you ute fans try to mix up his
words. He never will be able to say anything that won't be challenged by you
utes. Thats fine say what you want its expected. You are the enemy. Go Coogs .... go TCU..... oh yea, Go utes..........
I don't know who is more classless--Ute fans or Ute fans who pose as BYU fans on
this board.The better team won the rivalry game this year. Keep up
with the classless comments all year.BYU has a good chance of
beating Oregon State in the Las Vegas bowl and they will return to being the
class of the MWC, simply because TCU faces Boise State, again. A TCU win this
year does little or nothing for the MWC, and Utah is likely to lose to Cal.
With Max Hall coming off of a 12 of 32 127 yrd performance. And the defence
allowing Utah back in the game in the 4th quarter, they have a lot to change and
fix before anyone can expect a win. The cougars and fans better brace
theirselves for another bowl loss.
Just like they had trouble handling Utah's speed, right?Wait a
minute. . .
well, thank you for loving us. We love you back.We also love our Utes and
that...We are happy with 9-3 (2 losses to BCS teams and another to flukey
play) in a year that we start freshman QB.We are happy that we still have
Kyle as our coach.We are happy that Bronco's still the coach at BYU.We are happy that our team made BCS twice since 2004, once with our current
coach and will be back there again in 2010.
It is clear by all of the u fan comments that they really do have an Obsession
with all things BYU. It must be depressing to want your rival to lose every
game only to see them be successful 10 times this year. I will take four 10 win
seasons and another top 25 ranking at the end of this season no matter if we win
or lose. If we beat Oregon St we finsih close to the top 10 which is
respectable regardless of blue or red glasses.
Both teams will be motivated. these are 2 highly ranked teams trying to show
that they are among the best in the nation. USC may not be movitated after
placing 5th in the PAC 10. Cal may not be motivated with their injuries and the
old fashoned whipping they recieved from Washington, but Oregon St. isn't a
traditional powerhouse, so 2nd in the Pac 10 doesn't mean utter failure. Also,
a win here could even push them in or close to the top 10.This will
be a big game.BYU 38 Oregon St 34Hall 320yds passingUnga 120 yds rushingCranfeld 320 yds passingRodgers 120yds
rushing.The difference will be that Cranfeld will be sacked 3-4
Poor excuse for not beating Arizona on your home and anual bowl game.
Lay The Chalk On The Beavers.Bring Home The Cheese.....
OSU is a talented football team that can put points on the board. This game will
come down to the Y's ability to avoid being beaten over the top. I don't think
BYU and that pathetic secondary will keep OSU from scoring points. The Utah
Freshman missed 4-5 TD's in the BYU game by over-throwing receivers who had
atleast two steps on coverage. The OSU QB wont miss! BYU will have to get
pressure from their front 4 becasue sending more will leave those Corners on an
island. If I were BYU's CB/S I would practice "phase" coverage and your
back-pedal techniques, you are going to need it.OSU 37BYU 23
Can I read these stupid blogs without someone bringing up religion? I enjoy all
the banter that goes back and forth, as a BYU fan I think Utah has done a great
job in what was suppose to be a rebuilding year espically when playing on BYU's
home field and giving the cougars all that they could handle and then getting a
bowl bid that's quite remarkable. BYU will be in a rebuilding year some what
next year(espically if Unga leaves) and I personally doubt that they will do as
well, I think that Riley Nelson could be a good QB but I think think they will
look at the new top QB they will have next year and go with him, and I cant see
them doing that well if that happens. I guess I'm just giving props where they
are due, I think Kyle has built a heck of a program with the players that he
I think it is sad and pathetic that any team would play worse and be less
motivated about a bowl game just because their season didn't turn out like they
expected. But that will happen to a few teams this year . Good thing it doesn't
sound like this is the case with BYU this year. Depending on what
BYU team shows up, I think it will either be 35-27 for BYU or 42-14 for OSU.
(yes, there has been that much variability in how BYU has played this year).
Undergraduate and graduate, my friend, which is why I am disappointed in:* the pre-season bragging at BYU (remember "the best offensive line ever
at BYU, and maybe the best in the country" that didn't send a single player to
the NFL?)* the post loss excuses ("The turf kept coming up." "We
were sad that we lost to Utah.")* the disdain for their own fans,
("They just have a low-level of understanding,")* the hate of
other's fans* and the WHINING. Do you really think Max,
Bronco, Jan and the boys are the first BYU team to experience bad treatment?Shut up and play.I still think BYU's first choice is the
better, and classier, coach.
"Your not a BYU Grad."By the way, it is YOU ARE not a BYU Grad, not
your.Apparently YOU ARE the one who is not a BYU Grad.
For all of you accusing me of being a Ute fan, I am not. I am a BYU graduate,
twice. I am not a BYU Freshman, but I have taught undergraduates at BYU.If I were a Ute fan I wouldn't be calling for elevated conduct by BYU's
coaches, administration and players, I would be making fun of it. I don't need
to demean them, that is "reduce in worth or character":The
administration demeans the players and university by not requiring a higher
level of conduct.Coach Mendenhall demeans them by making excuses.
Reading these comments makes me wish I received my degree at Steven's Henegar
College. Everyone needs to lighten up a bit. Why so sour?
Oregon State 31 BYU 13 is my Las Vegas Bowl Prediction. Speed will be a factor
that the Cougars will not handle well. I also forsee a few INT's from Hall that
will allow the Beavers to turn this into a route early. Coug Fans there is
The Las Vegas bowl is the #9 rated bowl according to SI. That's pretty good.
This board has some of the silliest comments I have ever seen. Are you all still
in grade school?Oregon State is a good team. Riley is a class act
coach. It's great to have two top 20 teams. It's a better matchup than most
bowls. BYU beware. I'm looking forward to it.
Only a handful of practices? Sounds like the coaches were deflated, too.Happily, the Cougars (and their coaches) have come a long way since
then. I fully expect a better effort this time around.Nice work,
I think it's a blowout for TCU. The Frogs have been impressive with a much more
demanding schedule. Yes, Boise beat Oregon at home on the nauseating blue turf
but that was not the same Oregon team that's going to the Rose Bowl. I believe
TCU (and MWC) will dominate.....then invite BSU to join the family.