Are there Democrats in Utah to react to this development? Why doesn't the
Deseret News ever try to balance its sources?
If Utah Republicans want to be so innovative in health care reform, then do it.
Go for it. The Republicans had control of the White House and Congress for
years and accomplished nothing. Health insurance and health care costs
skyrocketed under their watch. Now is the time to show what you've got. Utah
Republicans, show us your stuff.
Again.....Take all health care benefits away from all the goverment officials
and see how fast they come up with a plan when they have to live by the same
rules the general public does!!
Utah is only good for skiing...fly in fly out...hope you dont get injured...
Maybe nobody likes Reid anymore. What a disappointment.
I don't understand, aren't the 10th amendment and legal, peaceful secession
already opt-out clauses?
I hate that my state will be able to make such a personal decision for me. Why
should my residence in Utah determine whether I have an opportunity to
participate in the federal public option? I've spent the last five years using
military health care and I think it provides far better care than the private
insurance I held before that. For all those nay-sayers about government
insurance, join the National Guard and fill out the paperwork to enroll your
family. Are you in the military? Check. Are these your dependents? Check. and
that's pretty much it. When my husband retires out, I would love it to be so
simple again. Are you a citizen? Check.
Notice that this is not an option of not buying into their plan. It is the
option of inventing a state run equivalent or letting the feds run it. In either
case the feds will tax you to pay for your neighbors checkups. But if you choose
the state option, the state will also tax you to pay for your neighbor’s
checkups and the Feds will tax you to pay for checkups in Nevada while getting
nothing back in return.That is the same kind of "opt out" they are
proposing for anyone who does not want to bow down before the POTUS and buy his
policy, to levy a fine against you for your disobedience, to try and make you
buy into their redistribution scheme.Is this closer to the
definition of robbery or of slavery?
"In either case the feds will tax you to pay for your neighbors checkups." Your
neighbor will be paying in as much as you. This just creates a larger risk pool.
It's like car insurance. We pay hoping we never total our car, but we cover the
risk just in case we do. It you total your car, others pay for you to get a
check to cover your lost.
Of course you like it. Someone else is paying for you! Also, I was
an intern at the capitol for several years, where do people get the idea that
state legislators get free health care? FACT: they dont. They pay a premium just
like you do at your work. Several hundred dollars per year in fact. Now I am sure there will be those who dont believe this, it does not matter
what you believe, because facts are facts and this is a fact. So go ahead and
scream and moan all you want, but if you think the state legislators get free
health care you are one thing: WRONG. Sorry. it's just a FACT
Some private insurers may be afraid of the possibility of lower profits having
to compete with a public option that focuses on providing low-cost medical care
and having their near monopoly over health care threatened that has been in
existence since 1945 when an antitrust law exemption for health insurers was put
into place allowing for regional insurance companies to dominant the market.
why would anyone doubt you that Utah would charge a premium for legislators to
for healthcare the only thing that shocks me is that it is not several thousand
dollars. The Utah government is nothing but a puppet organization anyway anyone
that does not realize that is a true fool.
Amazing how many experts there are for a bill that has not yet been written.
Brother Harry sent his kids to BYU. He is not a bad guy, let's give him a
chance.I would just like to be able to buy into the healthcare plan
that Orrin and Bob Bennett have. That is not too much to ask, is it?
It is pretty sad when Gov. Herbert is the voice of reason in all this. Who
cares one bit what any Utah Republican says or thinks. Hatch deliberately
walked away from being part of this months ago. No one else has any clout or
influence in Washington, due to Utah marginalizing itself politically. My knock
on the proposal is that there might be an opt-out. It should be a national
This is a very miss leading article. And old news. This was news two weeks ago.
However PricewaterhouseCoopers says AHIP instructed it to analyze only
"four components" of the bill. Its own admission in the study states this. The study that they mention here was funded by the insurance industry.
Come on Deseret News. Try and keep up.
Won't we pay for it anyway through federal taxes? Why not opt in?
This is such exciting news. To think we are one step closer to having the
federal government take over our health care. I can't wait until my health care
is paid for by an organization which is over $10 trillion in debt and is running
annual deficits of $1.5 trillion. I am quite sure that everything will be so
much better when the incorruptible federal government takes over health care in
the United States.
I love how these guys are reacting to a plan they haven't even seen yet. The
bill has not been presented. So how can they hate it?
The premise of the article is flawed. It is exceedingly clear that when Reid,
Obama, Pelosi et. al. speak they are merely using words to get what they want.
What happens later is unrelated to the words. The term "public
option" is just as Orwellian as Pelosi's "competitive option." Those paying
attention realize that the entire purpose of such language is to get some kind
of bill passed that will eventually lead to health care fully run by the
government (with no other options) because it will be structured to drive out
any competition. Look at the health care shortages and low quality
found in countries with government run programs. In fact, look at the shortages
of swine flue vaccines distributed by this government during the current
"emergency." Quick, pass health care reform today because we are in crisis, but
then wait until after the 2012 election to implement it. Then its effects will
not be understood until after our "Dear Leader" is re-elected.
Of course they don't like it. They have their mostly government funded health
plan, why sould they care if anybody else has a health plan period?
How long should the senators or representatives be given to read the bill before
it is voted on? If it looks like anything like the 1,000 page document that was
written by the Senate Finance comittee then it might take several days. If the
final draft is ready the day before it is voted on, who is going to be able to
read the bill? I suspect that most of the senators and representatives will
never read the bill before they vote. Do you think this is by design? Post the
bill on the internet so the people of the United States can read it. What are
they afraid of?
Sure you may be able to opt out but I guarantee THE FEDS WILL TAKE YOUR MONEY TO
PAY FOR THE ILLEGALS AND FREELOADERS who won't do anything to pay for their own
health insurance.Just more of the government "help" nobody
wants..except for the freeloaders and illegals that is.Almost
everyone wants reforms but this is trash!!! The government is
designing this reform bill so that it will cause the current private insurance
system to collapse. That is their plan.When it does the DEMOCRATS
will be there waiting with the full SINGLEPAYOR SYSTEM THEY HAVE ALL WANTED ALL
ALONG.Nobama said in 2003 "a single payor system is what I want..we
just may take a few steps to get there".What a deceptive charade
this is.Our government just views us as pawns to be pushed around
and used to get them more power and control over peoples lives.I was
a canadian. Been there done that. Became a citizen here just last fall.
Unfortunately now this country is on its way to becoming a similar SOCIALIST
CESSPOOL THAT CANADA WAS WHEN I LIVED THERE. Very disheartening.
With such a significant impact on ALL taxpayers and health services users, the
whole thing should go to the people for a vote in the form of a referendum - let
the people decide. How can we trust the DC crowd when they donlt have a dog in
this fight except for special interest money. I bet if they were forced to deal
with health costs and insurance like the average citizen, they would do things
differently, but no they have a special health plan that they get. Please don't
let them take away our freedoms and dismantle our country. It's obvious that
having more government control is at the top of this administration's agenda -
we the people aren't smart enough to make the proper dicisions.
This Public option health care plan proposed by Reed and the Democrats will
force all private plans out of business, (More job losses). Why world anyone
with a private plan want to pay for his own plan plus some one else's plan
which he would be doing because of the rise of his taxes. to pay for Reeds plan.
Most of the American people are smarter than that. Hope its voted down.
In further news, the sky is blue, and water is wet. Is it any surprise Utah
lawmakers are complaining about a Democratic plan?
Both senators Hatch and Bennett oppose any public option - government run
insurance program - for everyone but themselves. They both are on the government
run insurance program MEDICARE. What hypocrites!Why don't they come
clean and immediately give up their Medicare coverage?